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* Riding bike in a park - 3 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Riding bike in a park
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/169d6f4f667acb37?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 6:47 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <georgeswk-CC4632.09573009012011@news.toast.net>, VFW, wrote:
<SNIP to what vehicles are prohibited where>
>I had a police officer ask me to do him a favor and not ride my Trikke
>on the Arcata Plaza (CA) I told him I had gone to city hall and looked
>up the law to see if such a vehicle was indeed illegal. It is not
>mentioned. He said if I continued to ride he would cite me. I rode off
>saying that he would have to have a law to cite. Why do they call them
>pigs?
Does the law regarding that place say what vehicles are prohibited
(and all others are allowed), or what vehicles are allowed (and all others
are prohibited)?
My experience is that the vehicle code for public roads in Pennsylvania
say what vehicles are legal to drive on such roads, with all others being
prohibited.
Local park ordinances are likely to be similar in that area. Of the
exceptions of parks whose local ordinances list prohibited vehicles rather
than permitted ones, I doubt they take kindly to M1 tanks, taxi-ing of
jumbo jets, and railroad locomotives trying to move on unrailed ground
with rocket power.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 7:45 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
On Jan 9, 12:57 pm, "VFW," <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <70f90e5a-ee83-46f1-8e31-ad64d524b...@j1g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 2:58 pm, Vince <vpilu...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > > On 1/7/2011 10:32 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>
> > > backyard philosopher wrote:
> > > > On Jan 7, 6:14 am, "dbu,"<nos...@nobama.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >> In article<ig6dvd$fr...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>
> > > >> "Sharx35"<sharx...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> ">
> > > >>>> Labrode encourages cyclists to ride at parks, where speed limits are
> > > >>>> restricted and regulated. And for all to remember: "Bicycle riders are
> > > >>>> the weakest ones on the road."
>
> > > >>>>http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-01-05/news/fl-sunrise-bike-acci...
> > > >>>> 110105_1_bicyclist-deaths-bicycle-crashes-car-accidents
>
> > > >>>> ***
>
> > > >>>> So we must go and ride at parks, and how we get to the park? No wonder
> > > >>>> you don't find people out there.
>
> > > >>>> I'm telling you our system is not very cleverly designed.
>
> > > >>> How do you get to the park? Simple. Load your bike into 1 of your fleet
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> SUV's. Then DRIVE to the park. When you are finished riding your bike,
> > > >>> do
> > > >>> the reverse to get home.
>
> > > >> That is not the idea. What we are to do is get on the bike and peddle
> > > >> to the park, peddle to the store, peddle to work. More bikes on the
> > > >> streets means fewer cars on the streets. Bicycling is healthy, does not
> > > >> burn gas and stink up the air.
> > > >> --
>
> > > > Yeah, drivers are not very clever.
>
> > > > "Carlos Laborde, a United States Cycling Federation official" is the
> > > > guy who said bikes belong in the park.
>
> > > > Many so called "experts" are stupid too and think we care to ride in a
> > > > park or that we even have space in a park. He manages a velodrome, so
> > > > why should he worry about mundane cyclists. Well, let me tell you,
> > > > elite cyclists tend not to give a shit about practical cyclists. They
> > > > are type A in my classification and don't care about C or D's.
>
> > > > That's why I'm getting my little monkey bike to ride in a park. COMING
> > > > SOON!
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyiHc6lMYZs
>
> > > > No wonder they call it the TACTICAL BIKE. This is a strategy: I'm
> > > > riding the monkey bike in the park, and people will come up to me and
> > > > ask me, "Why a big guy like you would ride such a monkey bike?" Then
> > > > I'll reply, "Are you stupid or what. There's no place to ride out
> > > > there, and this the only bike that slows me down so the park doesn't
> > > > feel small."
>
> > > > Then I will give them a flier and sell him a t-shirt and off I go!
>
> > > Many years ago my friend and I were in the playground area riding when
> > > some folks started yelling at us and one woman tried to pull and rip my
> > > pal's shirt.
>
> > > Another time in Highland Park that same friend and others were riding
> > > when a cop knocked me off my bike, took me over to a plains Clothes
> > > man who took down my information and sent a letter to my father.
> > > The letter said I was riding in an unauthorized area, as if I was riding
> > > around NASA.
> > > Oh and what about my being knocked down and hurt?
> > > The cops told me it was my own fault as I shouldn't have been riding in
> > > that area.
>
> > I see, so it seems they consider the bike a threat to the system.
>
> > Why don't they do like the Taliban and ban the damn thing! Oh no, they
> > sell you the bike but then it goes unused. American has a very high
> > ownership of bikes --I read somewhere-- but they are in storage or
> > used in very stupid ways, like needing a car to go somewhere and
> > launch it.
>
> > They should start by defining if it's a vehicle or a toy.
>
> I had a police officer ask me to do him a favor and not ride my Trikke
> on the Arcata Plaza (CA) I told him I had gone to city hall and looked
> up the law to see if such a vehicle was indeed illegal. It is not
> mentioned. He said if I continued to ride he would cite me. I rode off
> saying that he would have to have a law to cite. Why do they call them
> pigs?
> the local paper (Arcata Eye) said I shouldn't need a law to know it was
> inappropriate. Well, my question was Do we need the police creating
> "laws" out of the clear blue sky? Is that the way it is?
> --
> Karma, What a concept!
Yeah, they can do whatever they want but they usually do it with no
eyewitnesses.
But I think you could go to the playground and claim to be a happy kid
with a toy. ;)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 7:51 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
On Jan 9, 9:47 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In article <georgeswk-CC4632.09573009012...@news.toast.net>, VFW, wrote:
>
> <SNIP to what vehicles are prohibited where>
>
> >I had a police officer ask me to do him a favor and not ride my Trikke
> >on the Arcata Plaza (CA) I told him I had gone to city hall and looked
> >up the law to see if such a vehicle was indeed illegal. It is not
> >mentioned. He said if I continued to ride he would cite me. I rode off
> >saying that he would have to have a law to cite. Why do they call them
> >pigs?
>
> Does the law regarding that place say what vehicles are prohibited
> (and all others are allowed), or what vehicles are allowed (and all others
> are prohibited)?
>
> My experience is that the vehicle code for public roads in Pennsylvania
> say what vehicles are legal to drive on such roads, with all others being
> prohibited.
>
> Local park ordinances are likely to be similar in that area. Of the
> exceptions of parks whose local ordinances list prohibited vehicles rather
> than permitted ones, I doubt they take kindly to M1 tanks, taxi-ing of
> jumbo jets, and railroad locomotives trying to move on unrailed ground
> with rocket power.
> --
> - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
I was prohibited from launching a kayak at a seaside park on the
grounds of "dangerous activities" not being allowed. They can
interpret the way they want it, but kayaking is not dangerous at all.
The security guard called the cops and I was surrounded before I
realized. The sharks are nothing compared to land predators.
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TOPIC: Lost fight with Tracfone
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6d1408373168760d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 8:13 pm
From: Fred
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
news:mfnki6dfsi5uednatsuj1gak3tkfncikqc@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:20:11 -0800 (PST), a real cheapskate
> <hallerb@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Well I WAS going to get a Trac phone, but this poor service example
>>convinced me otherwise.
>>
>>I am pissed at verizon they partnered with a text spammer. I got these
>>texts about dating when they continued I texted back WHO ARE YOU?
>>Whoever they are responded in spanish. Which I dont understand.
>>
>>A couple days later I got a text thanking me for subbing to the 10
>>buck a month premium message service...
>>
>>Called verizon they cancelled it but admitted they partnered with the
>>spam company.
>>
>>So I am shopping for a new no contract cell phone provider that has
>>live 411 operator.
>>
>>NET 10 is working fine I will likely go with them:) Trouble is they
>>are owned by tracphone:(
>
> I've been thinking about switching from Verizon to PagePlus. We never
> use all of our minutes (well, we did once) and PagePlus looks to be
> about the same price even if we did. They also use the Verizon
> network, which is a huge plus. Not interested in text or Internet.
>
Now, Page Plus also offers one year $80 cards through dealers like
discount Callingmart.com! You don't have to buy something every 4 months
on Page Plus if you just add $80 cards only from now on.....very nice.
$80 cards are discounted 7% this month on Callingmart.com....(c;]
50c/month is PP's only "fee"....no tax or other "fee" funny business that
adds $18/month to a Verizon bill noone can explain......
Tax and fees on a Verizon phone cost more than I pay for total service on
Page Plus!
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 8:22 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:13:09 +0000, Fred <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
>news:mfnki6dfsi5uednatsuj1gak3tkfncikqc@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:20:11 -0800 (PST), a real cheapskate
>> <hallerb@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Well I WAS going to get a Trac phone, but this poor service example
>>>convinced me otherwise.
>>>
>>>I am pissed at verizon they partnered with a text spammer. I got these
>>>texts about dating when they continued I texted back WHO ARE YOU?
>>>Whoever they are responded in spanish. Which I dont understand.
>>>
>>>A couple days later I got a text thanking me for subbing to the 10
>>>buck a month premium message service...
>>>
>>>Called verizon they cancelled it but admitted they partnered with the
>>>spam company.
>>>
>>>So I am shopping for a new no contract cell phone provider that has
>>>live 411 operator.
>>>
>>>NET 10 is working fine I will likely go with them:) Trouble is they
>>>are owned by tracphone:(
>>
>> I've been thinking about switching from Verizon to PagePlus. We never
>> use all of our minutes (well, we did once) and PagePlus looks to be
>> about the same price even if we did. They also use the Verizon
>> network, which is a huge plus. Not interested in text or Internet.
>>
>
>Now, Page Plus also offers one year $80 cards through dealers like
>discount Callingmart.com! You don't have to buy something every 4 months
>on Page Plus if you just add $80 cards only from now on.....very nice.
>
>$80 cards are discounted 7% this month on Callingmart.com....(c;]
>
>50c/month is PP's only "fee"....no tax or other "fee" funny business that
>adds $18/month to a Verizon bill noone can explain......
>
>Tax and fees on a Verizon phone cost more than I pay for total service on
>Page Plus!
Nice! Thanks. If our phones die, I'll probably switch. We're well into our
fourth year of a two-year contract. ;-) I'd have to be able to take our
phone numbers with us, too (they're already in a different AC).
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 8:37 pm
From: Fred
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
news:s82li6pf7qab7b3u2fej1cnfn83db5be0k@4ax.com:
> Nice! Thanks. If our phones die, I'll probably switch. We're well
> into our fourth year of a two-year contract. ;-) I'd have to be able
> to take our phone numbers with us, too (they're already in a different
> AC).
>
Call the nice Ohio (not Bangledesh) ladies on #737 on any Verizon phone
and she'll get your number ported over for you. Don't call Verizon!
#737 is how we get to Page Plus customer service, like you do on 611 on
Verizon.
Switching is quite painless. Not getting a monthly sellphone bill eating
up your paycheck and NOT being lied to....that takes a little getting
used to!
PP works anywhere in America Verizon has service, plus many places where
it doesn't as PP has deals with many mom and pop small carriers, even
some still on AMPS (analog)!
Side benefit to migrating from VZW to PP is all those kids and other
family free-call vermin who keep calling you for every little thing will
stop once they have to pay to talk to you....(c;]
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 9:57 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:37:35 +0000, Fred <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
>news:s82li6pf7qab7b3u2fej1cnfn83db5be0k@4ax.com:
>
>> Nice! Thanks. If our phones die, I'll probably switch. We're well
>> into our fourth year of a two-year contract. ;-) I'd have to be able
>> to take our phone numbers with us, too (they're already in a different
>> AC).
>>
>
>Call the nice Ohio (not Bangledesh) ladies on #737 on any Verizon phone
>and she'll get your number ported over for you. Don't call Verizon!
>
>#737 is how we get to Page Plus customer service, like you do on 611 on
>Verizon.
How does that work? Can I buy a PP phone as a trial and then transfer my VZW
number if I decide to go that way?
>Switching is quite painless. Not getting a monthly sellphone bill eating
>up your paycheck and NOT being lied to....that takes a little getting
>used to!
I don't get lied to. I just pay the bill. ;-)
>PP works anywhere in America Verizon has service, plus many places where
>it doesn't as PP has deals with many mom and pop small carriers, even
>some still on AMPS (analog)!
>
>Side benefit to migrating from VZW to PP is all those kids and other
>family free-call vermin who keep calling you for every little thing will
>stop once they have to pay to talk to you....(c;]
Not sure that's a good idea. OTOH, I don't know anyone else on VZW. The kid
is on AT&T (they're iPhone freaks). Will it stop politicians' robo-dialers?
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