Frugal Living: misc.consumers.frugal-living - 26 new messages in 8 topics

Monday, February 21, 2011

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TOPIC: Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless?
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 2:49 pm
From: "Simon"

Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@yahoo.com> wrote
> 45tg <78uj@gmail.com> wrote
>>Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

>>> Is it really necessary to repost the same dribble seven times?

>>Is it really necessary for you to post your shit even once ?

>>> Once is quite enough to make your point.

>>Seig Heil.

>>> Otherwise it's fodder for the "PLONK".

>>Fat lot of good that will do you, you stupid plonker.

> Resorting to cursing.

Thats not cursing, thats accurate characterisation, you stupid plonker.

> I must have hit a nerve.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, you stupid plonker.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 2:50 pm
From: "Simon"

Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:njl5m61nmekmi2hg83ragct9jat28fc5p0@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:43:19 +1100, "45tg" <78uj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
>>
>>> Is it really necessary to repost the same dribble seven times?
>>
>>Is it really necessary for you to post your shit even once ?
>>
>>> Once is quite enough to make your point.
>>
>>Seig Heil.
>>
>>> Otherwise it's fodder for the "PLONK".
>>
>>Fat lot of good that will do you, you stupid plonker.
>>
>
> Good bye jackass

Fat lot of good that will do you, you stupid plonker.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:35 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8se89gFi6pU1@mid.individual.net...
> T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>
>>>>> A small price to pay for civil peace.
>
>>>>> We didnt see civil chaos before we had welfare in the first world.
>
>>> It was always a constant threat. What is given to the poor is
>>> insurance for the rich. You need to study the history of revolutions.
>
>> Indeed, FDR pushed the New Deal to keep the US from a communist
>> revolution.
>
> There was never ever any possibility of a communist revolution in the US.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

> The US has only ever elected a single communist.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

>> Of course, the rich begrudge even those few crumbs, and
>> have spent the last 30 years in power taking them away.
>
> They dont get to elect govts, there just arent enough of them to do that.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

>> The US will either have a revolution (peaceful or violent)
>
> Not a chance. Have fun listing even a single revolution in any of the
> great democracys.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

>> or become a third world country,
>
> Not a chance. Have fun listing even a single example of a first world
> country ever doing that.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

>> if it continues on its present course.
>
> Pure fantasy.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:08 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8se83dFhacU1@mid.individual.net...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>
>>>> No one but an asshole would ever want to review what has already been
>>>> posted several times.
>
>>> Wrong, most obviously with someone who chooses to jump
>>> into a thread at that post and is interested in the context.
>
>> These newsgroups are very small
>
> Irrelevant to whether some choose to jump into a thread if only because
> its got quite a few posts in it, to see what the thread is about.

Totally relevant of course. We know who is reading what because of previous
experience. No one jumps in on a thread on these newsgroups because they are
small and most of us, unlike you, know how to edit a post - you god damn
fucking idiot!

>> and everyone knows what is being posted
>
> Mindlessly silly. Heaps dont read every post and just choose to
> read some of the posts, often just the post of individuals who
> they have found have made some interesting points in the past.

That doesn't happen on these newsgroups. No one jumps in on a thread on
these newsgroups because they are small and most of us, unlike you, know how
to edit a post - you god damn fucking idiot!

>> without having to review the same old shit over and over.
>
> You dont have to review anything, just skip to the new material.

We don't like to skip over longwinded posts that we have already read. We
want to read new material only - you god damn fucking idiot!

>> Learn how to edit or got lost
>
> Go and fuck yourself, again.

I have already told you numerous times how to fuck. God, you are one slow
learner. Here it is again.

"I suggest you take your Rod and give it a good fucking. And slow down.
Speed fucks are no good. You want to go slow." - Ed Dolan

> You are less than a sniffing, tainted, dampish fuckface. You are a
> moiling, idle, encysted looter. You are a pimping, sun-dried,
> heat-releasing flummery. You frolicking, rancid, loopy yes-man. You
> evacuating, overweening, stodgy goblin. You stammering, motionless, just
> potty-trained imbecile. You are a screaking, arse-faced, overexcited
> arse. You are a nidificating, empty-headed, shuffling gull-catcher. You
> intonating, symbiotic, contrived grandma. You collapsing, illogical,
> teeming flirt-gill. You are less than a vomiting, baffled, melancholic
> death-token. You are a squalling, puppyish, blanched snotfuck. You are
> less than a dizzying, strip-mined, rash hayseed. You burning,
> flap-mouthed, floppy fugitive. You nitrifying, impertinent, slapstick
> zigzagger. You are a groveling, domesticated, ransacked telephonist. You
> are a freaking, droll, bearded wretch. You flopping, moldering, foppish
> homo. You are a farrowing, askew, abject waste of space. You
> bellyaching, brainwashed, pudgy gipsy. You are a stooping, stemless,
> squashed testicle. You are a bellowing, gushy, irreligious cornflake.
> You bitching, moribund, dud gimcrack. You sniffing, high voltage,
> overstrung pituitary gland. You waddling, light-fingered, pessimum flea
> beetle. You officiating, negligible, deliquescent garbage carter. You
> drooling, garbled, one-celled flypaper. You are less than a
> generalising, infective, consumptive neuter. You are a baffling, rotten,
> bucktooth piece of dog excrement. You cankering, disoriented, suspicious
> fuck-knuckle.

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:18 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8se3ueFr92U1@mid.individual.net...
> T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
[...]
>>> There is something quite crooked about our capitalist system of
>>> economy. Unless you have money and influence, you are more often
>>> screwed than not. No wonder we have so many lawyers. Just keep
>>> plugging away and hope for the best. The law grinds exceeding fine
>>> when all is said and done and you may yet receive some justice.
>
>> And the only protection the non-rich have is a government that supports
>> their interests,
>
> And since there will always be a hell of a lot more non rich than rich,
> the non rich clearly are those who determine who gets to be the govt.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

>> which is why the right-wing in the US has worked (and mostly succeeded)
>> in destroying that in the US.
>
> Pigs arse they have.

The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?

Rod Speed needs to know how to fuck (as well as how to edit a post of
course) since it is the only thing he is truly interested in (note his
moniker - Rod Speed).

"I suggest you take your Rod and give it a good fucking. And slow down.
Speed fucks are no good. You want to go slow." - Ed Dolan

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:23 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:24 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:24 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

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TOPIC: Possible to refurbish eyeglass frames
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 3:03 pm
From: me@privacy.net

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Havent noticed anyone offering to do new plastic.
>
>You might try posting in the modelling groups, maybe
>some of the modeling has something similar somewhere.

good idea on the model newsgroups

will ask over there

thanks rod

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TOPIC: Brother mono laser printer hl- 2240
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 3:59 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 02/21/11 11:09, John Weiss wrote:

> aesthete8 wrote:
>
>> Recommendable?
>
> Dunno. I have the 5350DN, and recommend that one.

Ditto for the HL2170W. Dirt cheap and works fine. Newer models are
even wireless.

--
Cheers, Bev
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The volume of a pizza of thickness 'a' and radius 'z'
is given by pi*z*z*a

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TOPIC: Shoe insoles
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 4:10 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike

On Feb 21, 10:36 am, SQ <onestatus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where do you buy inexpensive shoe insoles, like Dr Scholls insoles or
> something even more durable?
> They cost 5+ tokens at a pharmacy so it gets expensive if you have a
> lot of shoes.

But you only have two feet. Tape them onto your feet. Use colored duct
tape to make a fashion statement; oh la la!

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TOPIC: Within 5 Days Of Each Other
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 4:54 pm
From: Jack Sokolisch

Nothing additional to add. Just wanted to keep all of my admirers in
the alt-social-security-disability cesspool current regarding my
UseNet spamming activities.
Your Beloved Jack (aka jack-off jack)

On Feb 6, 6:41 pm, Gary Sokolisch <SokolischSpe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My hard drive, printer, and stand alone copier went down.
>
> Right at Income Tax time.
>
> I've already detailed my travails regarding the PC and printer, and now for
> the copier.
>
> I paid $16 to an online support group-- JustAnswers.com -- to help me
> solve the problem. The tech said that the drum should be cleaned. That's
> nice but could you give me a little more detail. The tech said to take it
> to the shop.
>
> WOW! $16 for that advice. I'm in the wrong business. Maybe I could
> become an online "expert" and tell people to take their problems to a
> professional. Any fucking body could give that kind of advice.

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TOPIC: have you designed your garden , Yet?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 5:48 pm
From: Lamumba

The Real Crisis That Will Soon Hit the US
Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:06
by Phoenix Capital Research

Forget stocks, the real crisis is coming and it�s coming fast.

Indeed, it first hit in 2008 though it was almost entirely off the radar
of
the American public. While all eyes were glued to the carnage in the
stock
market and brokerage account balances, a far more serious crisis began to
unfold rocking 30 countries around the globe.

I'm talking about food shortages.

Aside from a few rice shortages that were induced by export restrictions
in
Asia, food received little or no coverage from the financial media in
2008.
Yet, food shortages started riots in over 30 countries worldwide. In
Egypt
people were actually stabbing each other while standing in line for
bread.

We�re now seeing the second round of this disaster occurring in Egypt and
other Arab countries today. Thanks to the Fed�s funny money policies,
food
prices have hit records. And even the Fed�s phony measures show that
vegetable prices are up 13%!

The developed world, most notably the US, has been relatively immune to
these developments� so far. But for much of the developing world, in
which
food and basic expenses consumer 50% of incomes, any rise in food prices
can
have catastrophic consequences.

And that�s not to say that food shortages can�t hit the developed world
either.

According to Mark McLoran of Agro-Terra, the Earth�s population is
currently
growing by 70-80 million people per year. Between 2000 and 2012, the
earth�s
population will jump from six billion to seven billion. We�re expected to
add another billion people by 2024. So demanding for food is growing� and
it�s growing fast.

However, supply is falling. Up until the 1960s, mankind dealt with
increased
food demand by increasing farmland. However, starting in the �60s we
began
trying to meet demand by increasing yield via fertilizers, irrigation,
and
better seed. It worked for a while (McLoran notes that between 1975 and
1986
yields for wheat and rice rose 32% and 51% respectively).

However, in the last two decades, these techniques have stopped producing
increased yields due to their deleterious effects: you can�t spray
fertilizer and irrigate fields ad infinitum without damaging the land,
which
reduces yields. McLoran points out that from 1970 to 1990, global average
aggregate yield grew by 2.2% a year. It has since declined to only 1.1% a
year. And it�s expected to fall even further this decade.

Thus, since the �60s we�ve added roughly three billion people to the
planet.
But we�ve actually seen a decrease in food output. Indeed, worldwide
arable
land per person has essentially halved from 0.42 hectares per person in
1961
to 0.23 hectares per person in 2002.

It�s also worth noting that diets have changed dramatically in the last
30
years.

For example, in 1985 the average Chinese consumer ate 44 pounds of meat
per
year. Today, it�s more than doubled to 110 pounds. That in of itself is
impressive, but when you consider that it takes 17 pounds of grain to
generate one pound of beef, you begin to see how grain demand can rise
exponentially to population growth with even modest changes to diet.

Make no mistake, agriculture is at the beginning of a major multi-year
bull
market. We�ve got rapidly growing demand, reduced production, and decade
low
inventories.
--
Karma, What a concept!

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TOPIC: Ed Dolan & Rod Speed
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:26 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
news:slrnim411b.kcf.don@manx.misty.com...
> In <6de32$4d61c5aa$d8106f5c$29005@KNOLOGY.NET>, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:8sds53FhqeU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Harry Brogan wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave
>>>>> for
>>>>> dead.
>>>
>>>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??
>>>
>>> That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.
>>
>>RS has shit for brains and the knack of never saying anything the least
>>bit
>>sensible. All he knows how to do is to call everyone a liar, ever the last
>>refuge of a coward and a scoundrel who is afraid of argument.
>
> This gets into area of not thinking that someone is my friend on basis
> of merely being an enemy of one of my other few enemies.

Usenet is for idiots. There is no other way to describe it. Assholes like
Rod Speed and Tibetan Monkey totally deserve one another. Let us hope they
fuck one another to death.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:33 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8se3k4FpmdU1@mid.individual.net...
> Harry Brogan wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Harry Brogan wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave
>>>>> for dead.
>
>>>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??
>
>>> That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.
>
>> And you do?
>
> Question doesnt arise with me, fuckwit.

This god damn ignorant asshole and shithead doesn't know enough to use an
apostrophe where required. He does know all about fucking though. That is
why he calls himself Rod Speed.

"I suggest you take your Rod and give it a good fucking. And slow down.
Speed fucks are no good. You want to go slow." - Ed Dolan

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:49 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8segnuFkaU1@mid.individual.net...
> Don Klipstein wrote
>
>> Is Roddie more on TM's side than ED's side?
>
> I never bother with that juveline 'side' crap.

RS and TM are two birds of a feather, both crazy as loons.

> I JUST expose the pig ignorant lies that anyone spews.

All RS knows how to do is to call everyone a liar, ever the last refuge of a
scoundrel and a coward.

> I only bothered to read Mr Ed's shit when he commented
> on one of my posts to that fool the Dregs Thracian.

He is on your level too. Glad to see that like water you have found your
shallowness.

>> Why did Roddie need take a side in a Usenet battle between TM and ED?
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

This god damn ignorant fool cannot even spell a simple word like
"fantasies".

RS is forever unable respond in an intelligent way to anything that is ever
said by anyone, ever the sign of an idiot and a simpleton. Hey, he is just
like TM!

>> I somewhat regret now having posted in favor of 1 and not the
>> other of these 2 that hyave gained themselves some unpopularity...
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed
> where it belongs>

This asshole and shithead thinks the above line is clever. That is just how
stupid he is!

Rod Speed, like all mentally retarded types, does not even know how to fuck.
Here is what he needs to know.

"I suggest you take your Rod and give it a good fucking. And slow down.
Speed fucks are no good. You want to go slow." - Ed Dolan

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:48 pm
From: Jeff Thies

On 2/21/2011 1:16 AM, Don Klipstein wrote:
> In article<8sdc45FddrU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for
>> dead.
>
> Is Roddie more on TM's side than ED's side?
>
> Why did Roddie need take a side in a Usenet battle between TM and ED?

Why not?

> I somewhat regret now having posted in favor of 1 and not the other
> of these 2 that hyave gained themselves some unpopularity...
>
> In light of the maybe-15-plus-year-old apparently-largely-still-
> current FAQ on the infamous R.S., I could actually decrease my
> disfavor to E.D. That is because R.S. has (as I experience this) a
> great history of apparently liking to irritate people, especially ones
> who work for a living.

Oh, he does. But he is so well known at it, and is usually closer to
being right than wrong that we just accept this. TM is entertaining, at
least he tries to be. Ed is reasonably civil to anyone he isn't
currently openly hostile with.

It's all amusing. But they are loons and if you get personally
involved in any of the ongoing lunacy then you need to have your head
examined. It's a drive by circus, leave it at that.

Jeff

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:54 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
news:slrnim41h0.kcf.don@manx.misty.com...
> In <7mc3m6580b1h6rqu71bvjfthj00insaldj@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net wrote:
>>"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>>
>>>You provoke me at your peril. Rod Speed will learn this the hard way.
>
> <SNIP a bit>
>
> Except that Rod Speed is resistant to emotionally maturing, to extent of
> resisting learning at least some things even the hard way.
>
> There is a FAQ on Rod Speed, which I think is 16-plus years old. Yet, I
> think Rod Speed experienced emotional maturation of at most 2-3 years
> between that long ago and now.
> --
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

You mean this?

After its recent emergence in the thread "How to calculate increase
of home wireless router range?", readers of this group may find
this useful. [based on a post in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage]

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod
Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered
he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the
big, hard man" on the InterNet.

Rod is believed to be from Australia.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering
away and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and
more try and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed
also means he as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first
place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups
including invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a
self professed "expert" and flames any and all who disagree with
him. Logically, here's no way any single individual could be
more than a jack of all trades across such a wide spread of
subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a
view held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an
opinion and to vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is
simply small mindedness and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein
himself fought against his whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any
other post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he
responds with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an
instantly recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty
much to the following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try
harder, trivial, more lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc".
The fact that Rod has been unable to come up with any new insults
says a lot about his outlook and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people
who post have some basis of reason for what they write and when
Rod retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a
class room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges
the pupil to explain himself and the student responds with "***
off, Big Nose!" Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal
proboscis, he gets a dent in his self-esteem and might resort to
an emotional repsonse like "yeah? well your *** wouldn't fill a
pop rivet, punk", which merely invites some oneupmanship from the
naughty pupil. Of course, the teacher should not have justified
the initial comment with a response, especially in front of the
class. The correct response was "please report to the
headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "virtual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an
opinion or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were
pathetic lying schoolboys who should be able to do better or some
equally pithy Rod Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:01 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
message news:ijtfr9$f54$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 2/21/2011 12:28 AM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>> In<7mc3m6580b1h6rqu71bvjfthj00insaldj@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net wrote:
>>> "Edward Dolan"<edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You provoke me at your peril. Rod Speed will learn this the hard way.
>>
>> <SNIP a bit>
>>
>> Except that Rod Speed is resistant to emotionally maturing, to extent
>> of
>> resisting learning at least some things even the hard way.
>>
>> There is a FAQ on Rod Speed, which I think is 16-plus years old. Yet,
>> I
>> think Rod Speed experienced emotional maturation of at most 2-3 years
>> between that long ago and now.
>
> <http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.internet.wireless/2006-07/msg00462.html>

Mr. Sherman is too kind by far. I am not. Here it is for all those want to
know something about this ultimate asshole and shithead. RS and TM are
perfectly mated. Let us hope they fuck one another to death.

After its recent emergence in the thread "How to calculate increase
of home wireless router range?", readers of this group may find
this useful. [based on a post in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage]

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod is believed to be from Australia.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

What is a "RodBot"?

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:01 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Edward Dolan wrote
> Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Harry Brogan wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

>>>>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??

>>>> That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.

>>> RS has shit for brains and the knack of never saying anything the least bit sensible. All he knows how to do is to
>>> call everyone a liar, ever
>>> the last refuge of a coward and a scoundrel who is afraid of argument.

>> This gets into area of not thinking that someone is my friend on
>> basis of merely being an enemy of one of my other few enemies.

> Usenet is for idiots. There is no other way to describe it.

Odd that you post so much to it.

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:03 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:04 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:04 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:20 pm
From: me@privacy.net

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:

>But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

gotten a hell of a lot more useful info for him than
you fuckwit

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:23 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

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TOPIC: Are traffic and public transportation examples of socialism?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:00 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In <6ad04d46-c94b-4943-8700-003c9357d8c1@y31g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:

>You know the taboo word... S!@#. Meaning "socialism" is a word tossed
>around by politicians and voters alike to attack/punish someone with
>ideas like BULLET TRAINS* or BRINGING CAMERAS TO TAME TRAFFIC.
>
>Our failure is to grasp that bullet trains or bikes can alleviate our
>congested traffic while cameras can bring some discipline to our wild
>drivers. Notice though that bicycles are the least socialist of the
>transportation modes and that we don't require a complex
>infrastructure to work.
>
>Please spare the S!@# word. ;)
>
>(* The bullet train from Tampa to Orlando was defeated. In reality we
>need it from Miami to Orlando, and perhaps to the Keys)

I see a bit of a problem with bullet trains in USA. If gubmint is
going to give funding to a major public works project, especially a
rail one, especially in or anywhere near any long-established major
cities, labor costs will be huge. The labor is likely to be done by
building-and-construction trades unions at $30-40 per hour plus benefits
including 100%-employer-paid "Cadillac plan" health insurance for the
workers and their families.

What I think is worse still about modern practice by unions - they
fight to reduce productivity, with restrictive work rules and more
productive workers not being allowed to be paid more per hour than less
productive ones of same seniority. Work rules do get so restrictive in
some workplaces that only union carpenters are allowed to drive screws
into building structures for hanging bulletin boards. I remember
Philadelphia having had a city union work rule that city trash truck
drivers and pothole repair crew truck drivers were not allowed to do
work other than driving.

Historically, working class and median wages increased as a result of
increasing productivity. Unions tend to think they can get their
workers (and themselves) more money by decreasing productivity.

Meanwhile, in longer-established major cities, construction unions
work like country clubs. There has been a complaint in Philadelphia
that graduates of Philadelphia's public highschools had a higher rate of
getting into Harvard than of being admitted to these unions. Oh, in
"union towns", usually employers do not do the hiring for construction
work - they go to "union halls" and the union does the hiring.

Several years ago, the Philadelphia metro area was considering
electrifying an existing rail line from Norristown to Reading. (From
downtown Philly to Norristown, electric trains already run.) The cost
was going to be 1 or 2 billion $ merely to electrify about 50-55 miles
of existing railway, to move something like a projected 35,000-40,000
passengers daily! (IIRC)

If I remember these figures correctly, that much taxpayer money can
easily buy a new car and a new bike for every daily passenger, also 2
years of car insurance even in a Philadelphia zip code with being
covered to commute over 20 miles each way by car. Good chance also
enough gasoline to drive an average modern car for 2 years at
USA-average miles-per-year rate.

Heck, $2 billion can buy new cars, new bikes, Philly insurance and
gasoline, plus every-3,000-mile oil changes, once-per-2-years radiator
purge-and-refill, a replacement set of car tires and a dozen bike tires,
a replacement battery (with labor), a replacement water pump (with
labor), 6 replacement bike chains, 2 bike helmets, and a timing belt
replacement and all other scheduled maintenance of a car and a bike for
6 years for 40,000 people!

--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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