Friday, March 18, 2011

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 2 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Nuclear Crisis in Japan - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4e19044edc193817?hl=en
* what the CDC sez; about KI - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/86c53018b03ca4b1?hl=en

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TOPIC: Nuclear Crisis in Japan
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4e19044edc193817?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 17 2011 8:15 pm
From: Jeff Thies


On 3/17/2011 7:47 PM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 17, 10:38 am, Jeff Thies<jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 3/17/2011 9:38 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
>>
<snip>

> Following your logic, we should immediately halt all contruction of
> buildings, roads, etc because of the earthquake.

You make a lot of straw man arguments about what other people think.

Unless you think
> tthey all
> performed exactly as designed and intended. It could turn out that a
> simple change like having the diesel generators located 25 feet higher
> would have prevented the whole thing.

This plant has been dodging bullets. Just another "if only" in a bad
design. What did happen is more important than what could have. Early in
the accident, even with the generators working, there was trouble:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fukushima_nuclear_accidents


And that change could be
> implemented without closing anything. But we won't know until we
> have an investigation and learn all the facts.

The GE Mark 1 should not be allowed unmodified in any danger zone. Out
of 6 reactors, 4 are history. What cost that? The flaws in the design
were well known, among them an insufficient wet well and spent fuel
storage located where it could be damaged and is essentially uncontained.

I have never been anti nuclear. I previously had no opinion on any
reactor. But, whatever it takes to make sure this model reactor never
does what four of them are currently doing, is what has to be done. That
takes no investigation to figure out.

Jeff


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TOPIC: what the CDC sez; about KI
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/86c53018b03ca4b1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 17 2011 9:19 pm
From: Karen Silkwood


any radioactive plume coming our way? What I found is that potassium
iodide has a certain amount of risk involved in taking it. The Center
for Disease Control (CDC) warns:
Adults: Adults older than 40 years should not take KI unless public
health or emergency management officials say that contamination with a
very large dose of radioactive iodine is expected. Adults older than 40
years have the lowest chance of developing thyroid cancer or thyroid
injury after contamination with radioactive iodine. They also have a
greater chance of having allergic reactions to KI.²
fo mo;
http://planetthrive.com/2011/03/anti-radiation-soup/
--
Karma, What a concept!


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