Tuesday, March 1, 2011

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 7 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* Car runs down Critical Mass in Brazil - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e2a6b9e23e1e7bd2?hl=en
* I want to get rid of my landline but... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/321423bed679947e?hl=en
* Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless? - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8db50c56e106a028?hl=en
* Rod Speed is an Aborigine - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0deefff98b9882ed?hl=en
* Rod Speed is a liar --HOMELESS DO HAVE BIKES - 8 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1905353f05cd9046?hl=en
* We are breeding Couch Potatoes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9074534626ab3454?hl=en
* Rod vs. Ed... you be the referee - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/22a2ed7ad85856b3?hl=en

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TOPIC: Car runs down Critical Mass in Brazil
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e2a6b9e23e1e7bd2?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 9:18 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


On Feb 28, 10:27 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/28/2011 10:10 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
> Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Car runs down bicycling demonstrators in Brazil"
>
> > I changed the title to illustrate the point that Critical Mass may be
> > provoking the beast by blocking the road. The article simply doesn't
> > say. The point is that I'm against CM strategy and for TAKING THE
> > LANE, not the road.
>
> > Again, the guy may have charged at them out of rage against bikes in
> > an act of random violence. Just today I was riding on the road and
> > this "mafia car" (black car, black windows) slowed down and blasted an
> > AIR HORN at me. DRIVERS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE ABOUND.
>
> > Here's the stunning news:
>
> > SAO PAULO – A motorist sped his car through a pack of more than 100
> > cycling activists in southern Brazil, sending bikes and screaming
> > riders flying through the air and landing hard on the asphalt in a
> > scene captured on amateur video and posted online.
>
> > At least 40 cyclists were injured, with most suffering cuts and broken
> > bones, but nobody was killed, authorities said.
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_bicyc...
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Well they were blocking the road completely, and allegedly weren't
> letting traffic through. Some people have places to be.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Did you read that in the article? (I'm lazy to read now)

Now imagine a truck does the same with cars blocking the fast lane,
and they do it all the time.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 3:56 am
From: ash


On Mar 1, 3:10 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bullshit Campaign" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Car runs down bicycling demonstrators in Brazil"
>
> I changed the title to illustrate the point that Critical Mass may be
> provoking the beast by blocking the road. The article simply doesn't
> say. The point is that I'm against CM strategy and for TAKING THE
> LANE, not the road.
>
> Again, the guy may have charged at them out of rage against bikes in
> an act of random violence. Just today I was riding on the road and
> this "mafia car" (black car, black windows) slowed down and blasted an
> AIR HORN at me. DRIVERS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE ABOUND.
>
> Here's the stunning news:
>
> SAO PAULO – A motorist sped his car through a pack of more than 100
> cycling activists in southern Brazil, sending bikes and screaming
> riders flying through the air and landing hard on the asphalt in a
> scene captured on amateur video and posted online.
>
> At least 40 cyclists were injured, with most suffering cuts and broken
> bones, but nobody was killed, authorities said.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_bicyc...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Whilst not condoning his actions in any way (was a very stupid thing
to do), I can see stupidity on both sides of the argument with CM
activists displaying this in spades. Own your space in your lane, but
don't presume to own the whole road as this just pisses people off -
well CM as an act is designed to piss people off.

I can see more of this happening when CM's are held in future TBH - it
was like skittles and he wasn't exactly driving a huge Chelsea Tractor
either.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 1:32 pm
From: Forrest Hodge


On 3/1/2011 12:18 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
> On Feb 28, 10:27 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/28/2011 10:10 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
>> Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Car runs down bicycling demonstrators in Brazil"
>>
>>> I changed the title to illustrate the point that Critical Mass may be
>>> provoking the beast by blocking the road. The article simply doesn't
>>> say. The point is that I'm against CM strategy and for TAKING THE
>>> LANE, not the road.
>>
>>> Again, the guy may have charged at them out of rage against bikes in
>>> an act of random violence. Just today I was riding on the road and
>>> this "mafia car" (black car, black windows) slowed down and blasted an
>>> AIR HORN at me. DRIVERS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE ABOUND.
>>
>>> Here's the stunning news:
>>
>>> SAO PAULO � A motorist sped his car through a pack of more than 100
>>> cycling activists in southern Brazil, sending bikes and screaming
>>> riders flying through the air and landing hard on the asphalt in a
>>> scene captured on amateur video and posted online.
>>
>>> At least 40 cyclists were injured, with most suffering cuts and broken
>>> bones, but nobody was killed, authorities said.
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_bicyc...
>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>>
>> Well they were blocking the road completely, and allegedly weren't
>> letting traffic through. Some people have places to be.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Did you read that in the article? (I'm lazy to read now)
>
> Now imagine a truck does the same with cars blocking the fast lane,
> and they do it all the time.

On the highway trucks go 55-70 MPH. Whilst most traffic goes around
65-80 MPH. The difference in speed is far greater with bicycle and a
car, or even a bike and truck.

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TOPIC: I want to get rid of my landline but...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/321423bed679947e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 3:02 am
From: JimSo


On Feb 28, 3:56 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> JimSo <jimso...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:294f5e9a-2156-42b4-93e8-5856bd9c8a0d@o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ooops, one more question:
> > I found this at amazon.com and am further confused now.
> > Is this a different product/service than the one I linked to above for
> > $79.95?
> > I found this which has amazon marketplace sellers selling the hardware
> > package for $40+5 shipping with a $79.95 credit towards 1 year of
> > service:
> >http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Power-Broadband-Telephone-
> Service/dp/B003B4
> > 2ZBE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
> > But then there is this which actually costs $79.95. Is it not the same
> > thing?
> >http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Power-Broadband-Telephone-
> Service/dp/B003B4
> > 2ZBE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1U1OLQDUY3F0V&s=generic&qid=1284404704&sr=
> 1-
> > 1
>
> > Seems to be the same thing except that the 2nd one is referred by
> > Phone Power's own site so they are getting the extra money, no?
>
> Yeah,
> Phone power sells their retail combo packs at many locations,
> including Best Buy.  But dealing with Phone Power directly at
> their site is probalby the best option (why add another party
> to the transaction?). You can order up service and delay the
> port of your current phone number (I waited till the end of the
> 30 day trial). In the mean time you can make outgoing calls
> over Phone Power.  You just can't receive them.
>
> It only takes a few (in my case 3) days to recieve the Phone
> Power adaptor after placing your order.
>
> One note: When you first connect the Phone Power Adapter, it
> will do a software update.  While this is happening the front
> panel lights will blink slowly.  This will take about 10
> minutes to complete. Just let it do it's thing.  If you
> interupt the software update you my end up "Bricking" the
> Adapter.
>
> BTW: tell them that Gordon Reeder sent you.

Thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions.
I'll call them to ask about using Magic Jack along side it, but other
than that it sounds good. The reason I may go with the Amazon
Marketplace seller is that it seems like such a great deal:
$79 credit towards service (4+ months free) and all the equipment I
need (except phone) for $45. Then just $21/month (including taxes and
fees) for the remaining year... If the quality and service is decent
and reliable then it seems like the answer to my desire to DUMP ATT's
exorbitant service for a land line.

By the way Magic Jack also works for this for a lot cheaper ($40/year)
BUT I don't like the quality of the voice with MJ. Hopefully Phone
Power is better in that respect. Otherwise, I have found MJ to be very
reliable and usable, but for long conversations it's a bit annoying in
terms of lousy sound quality. This COULD be the phone I have hooked up
to it! But I don't think so; it sounds like the service...


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 3:01 pm
From: a real cheapskate


On Mar 1, 6:02 am, JimSo <jimso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 3:56 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > JimSo <jimso...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:294f5e9a-2156-42b4-93e8-5856bd9c8a0d@o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Ooops, one more question:
> > > I found this at amazon.com and am further confused now.
> > > Is this a different product/service than the one I linked to above for
> > > $79.95?
> > > I found this which has amazon marketplace sellers selling the hardware
> > > package for $40+5 shipping with a $79.95 credit towards 1 year of
> > > service:
> > >http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Power-Broadband-Telephone-
> > Service/dp/B003B4
> > > 2ZBE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
> > > But then there is this which actually costs $79.95. Is it not the same
> > > thing?
> > >http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Power-Broadband-Telephone-
> > Service/dp/B003B4
> > > 2ZBE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1U1OLQDUY3F0V&s=generic&qid=1284404704&sr=
> > 1-
> > > 1
>
> > > Seems to be the same thing except that the 2nd one is referred by
> > > Phone Power's own site so they are getting the extra money, no?
>
> > Yeah,
> > Phone power sells their retail combo packs at many locations,
> > including Best Buy.  But dealing with Phone Power directly at
> > their site is probalby the best option (why add another party
> > to the transaction?). You can order up service and delay the
> > port of your current phone number (I waited till the end of the
> > 30 day trial). In the mean time you can make outgoing calls
> > over Phone Power.  You just can't receive them.
>
> > It only takes a few (in my case 3) days to recieve the Phone
> > Power adaptor after placing your order.
>
> > One note: When you first connect the Phone Power Adapter, it
> > will do a software update.  While this is happening the front
> > panel lights will blink slowly.  This will take about 10
> > minutes to complete. Just let it do it's thing.  If you
> > interupt the software update you my end up "Bricking" the
> > Adapter.
>
> > BTW: tell them that Gordon Reeder sent you.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions.
> I'll call them to ask about using Magic Jack along side it, but other
> than that it sounds good. The reason I may go with the Amazon
> Marketplace seller is that it seems like such a great deal:
> $79 credit towards service (4+ months free) and all the equipment I
> need (except phone) for $45. Then just $21/month (including taxes and
> fees) for the remaining year... If the quality and service is decent
> and reliable then it seems like the answer to my desire to DUMP ATT's
> exorbitant service for a land line.
>
> By the way Magic Jack also works for this for a lot cheaper ($40/year)
> BUT I don't like the quality of the voice with MJ. Hopefully Phone
> Power is better in that respect. Otherwise, I have found MJ to be very
> reliable and usable, but for long conversations it's a bit annoying in
> terms of lousy sound quality. This COULD be the phone I have hooked up
> to it! But I don't think so; it sounds like the service...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

you can get a phone adapter, you plug your cell phone in and it lights
up your landline phone.

this and a net 10 unlimited everything 50 buck a month cell phone
service gives you a cell and lets you use your old landlines when you
are home

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TOPIC: Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:00 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8t0qrhF309U1@mid.individual.net...
> T�m Sherm�n� �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>
>> I think "Rod Speed" is a bot.
>
> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought, child.

I think "Rod Speed" is an Aborigine, dark of heart and dark of mind.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

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TOPIC: Rod Speed is an Aborigine
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0deefff98b9882ed?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:03 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8st0imF47cU1@mid.individual.net...
> Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could
> leave for dead.

The Aussie Rod Speed is the expert on puerile shit since he eats it fresh
every day like all Aborigines and then regurgitates it to Usenet.

>


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 10:21 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8t4kr6Fp4kU1@mid.individual.net...
> Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could
> leave for dead.

Rod Speed is an Aussie shit eater. He also drinks his own urine because that
is what Aussies do in the land down under. He is dark of mind and dark of
heart like all those flat nosed Aborigines.
>


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

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TOPIC: Rod Speed is a liar --HOMELESS DO HAVE BIKES
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1905353f05cd9046?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:07 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8st7g0Fjm9U1@mid.individual.net...
> Jeff Thies wrote:
>
>> Rod is not stupid, he is often belligerent and always intractable.
>> When he is wrong he never changes.
>
> Just did, yesterday.

Rod Speed is an Aussie shit eater. He also drinks his own urine because
that is what Aussies do in the land down under. He is dark of mind and dark
of heart like all those flat nosed Aborigines.
>
>
>


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:09 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8st0jfF4b1U1@mid.individual.net...
> Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could
> leave for dead.

Rod Speed (note the anonymous cowardly user name) shits all over himself yet
once again.
>
>


== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:21 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Jeff Thies" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
news:ikb3tu$q5n$1@news.albasani.net...
[...]
> I've read some of his posts on solar thermal storage and he is correct
> there. That is something you largely have to have experience in to know
> and I'm convinced that he has that. Near as I can tell he used to work as
> an engineer. He is not stupid.

I have to laugh. No one is universally stupid on everything, not even the
terminally retarded. I have even known Tom Sherman, a civil engineer, to say
a few sensible things from time to time. Hells Bells, even TM is not
totally stupid. But what does any of that have to do with intelligence?

Unlike you, I can recognize a genuine idiot when I see one. How? You judge
others by their overall manner, not a few snippets of knowledge. RS NOT
stupid? What a laugh!


== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:34 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8st0grF3sfU1@mid.individual.net...

Learn how to edit a post or get lost - you god damn ignorant son of a bitch!

> Jeff Thies wrote
[...]
>> It takes money for good locks and good security.
>
> Nope, just keep it inside where you 'live'

The Aussie Rod Speed lives in a cave like all of his brethren Aborigines.

>> That and crooks don't care. The poor are victimized at a much higher rate
>> than those who have the resources/ability to defend themselves.
>
> You dont need any extra resources to defend
> your bike, just keep it inside where you 'live'

Saying it twice doesn't make it any more sensible. Caves are notorious for
being damp and inhospitable places for all except Aborigines.

>> Maybe you have a more honest lot down there,
>
> Nope. In some ways ours are worse, we dont incarcerate petty drug users at
> anything like the rate you lot do, we basically only do that with the
> dealers. And
> they are overwhelmingly those who do the petty crime, to pay for their
> drug habits.

Wow! Two whole sentences made up of parts. Not bad for an Aborigine. At
least now he knows that a "nope" must have a follow-up.


== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:24 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.


== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:25 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

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TOPIC: We are breeding Couch Potatoes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9074534626ab3454?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 5:51 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


On Feb 28, 10:03 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <e2a02699-8c76-4642-a4a3-93d1760c4...@t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, aka Comandante Banana"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > This is Ray Kroc's fault?
>
> > > "Don't make your product too available!" you protest. "Don't give me
> > > what I want!" you scream. "You're evil if you provide what I ask for,
> > > when I ask for it, just the way I like it!" you whine.
>
> > > > 'The Jungle' though reveals some eternal truths:
>
> > > > It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job
> > > > depends on not understanding it. -Upton Sinclair
>
> > > There's always a Bradley Manning in any organization. Otherwise, where
> > > would the Sinclairs of this world get their material?
>
> > Our children are submitted to a triple attack:
>
> > 1- Junk food, TV advertising in Scandinavian countries is banned for
> > children under 12 and limited in the UK (second fattest nation),
>
> > 2- Consumption (toys, etc) ditto,
>
> > 3- No physical activity, I've seen only one community where the
> > children timidly ride bikes on sidewalks (a Jewish town). You may
> > consider them "crazy" or brave to do so and rebel.
>
> > In other words, WE ARE BREEDING COUCH POTATOES AND CONSUMERS.
>
> Define "we."

"We the people"... We Americans have the highest obesity in the world.
>
>
>
> > My girlfriend's son (Jehova's Witness, waiting for Jesus) is 30
> > something, obese and diabetic. They don't have much of a chance in the
> > fast food, couch potato culture.
>
> Believe it or not, there are millions and millions and millions of
> Americans who aren't diabetic, aren't obese, and aren't couch potatoes.
> Yet they live in the exact same culture under the exact same
> circumstances.

Yeah, the choose the narrow winding path. They probably go to a gym in
order and then drive a truck to launch the bike.
>
> How is that?
>
> This catch all phrase "culture" needs to be defined even more than "we."
>
> Outlawing temptation isn't any way for a free man to behave in a free
> society, Mr. Imam.
>
> In other words, a tight miniskirt and open blouse didn't cause that man
> to rape the girl.

Hey, I'm all for freedoms, including the ones you fight with so much
zeal such as the War on Drugs to keep America "Drug Free."

When are you winning that one? ;)


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TOPIC: Rod vs. Ed... you be the referee
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 9:08 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
a librarian vs. the man from the outback.

I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
nothing to say. But you be the referee!


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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 9:53 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d4d6@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:

>It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
>Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
>a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>
>I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
>some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
>nothing to say. But you be the referee!

You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does not mind
making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making Aussies
look bad?

The Aussie here gained a FAQ and in ~1995 had an "alt" Usenet newsgroup
existing, named after him.

I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous Aussie
here, between those two lowly folks. To me, the infamous Aussie is a
particularly bad sub-troll that likes to irritate everyone, especially
those who work for a living.

As for frugal living: I own a car, but I don't use it to commute to my
day job. Instead, I mostly use my bike (not much slower) and after that,
a major done-well public transit line.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 10:28 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
news:slrnimqcku.c3h.don@manx.misty.com...
> In <90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d4d6@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
>>It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
>>Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
>>a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>>
>>I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
>>some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
>>nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>
> You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does not mind
> making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making Aussies
> look bad?

Anyone who freely chooses to live in a northern clime is some kind of idiot
for sure. Minnesota is a place to get out of, never a place to get to. TM at
least has brains enough to live in a southern clime (Florida).
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 10:46 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


On Mar 1, 1:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Don Klipstein" <d...@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
>
> news:slrnimqcku.c3h.don@manx.misty.com...
>
> > In <90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d...@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> > His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >>It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
> >>Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
> >>a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>
> >>I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
> >>some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
> >>nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>
> >  You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does not mind
> > making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making Aussies
> > look bad?
>
> Anyone who freely chooses to live in a northern clime is some kind of idiot
> for sure. Minnesota is a place to get out of, never a place to get to. TM at
> least has brains enough to live in a southern clime (Florida).
> [...]
>

Hey, life's a beach! Just came from it, kicking sand for a change. You
better not be caught in traffic though!

You sacrifice civilization as you come to the tropics, but you can lie
under a mango tree. Beware of Australia though as the outback is only
good for aborigines.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 4:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.


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