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* Rod vs. Ed... you be the referee - 18 messages, 7 authors
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* Have we dehumanized death? - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Is America waiting for the automatic bike? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* I want to get rid of my landline but... - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Mr Ed the donkey Dolan - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Rod vs. Ed... you be the referee
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/22a2ed7ad85856b3?hl=en
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== 1 of 18 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 1 2011 8:05 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <ikkedo$esi$1@news.albasani.net>, Jeff Thies wrote:
>On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>> In<90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d4d6@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>>
>>> It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
>>> Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
>>> a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>>>
>>> I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
>>> some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
>>> nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>>
>> You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does not mind
>> making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making Aussies
>> look bad?
>>
>> The Aussie here gained a FAQ and in ~1995 had an "alt" Usenet newsgroup
>> existing, named after him.
>>
>> I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous Aussie
>> here, between those two lowly folks.
>
> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
>man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
The Aussie appears to me to be a "legend" for reasons to rank him as a
sub-troll under trolls and the Minnesotan.
For one thing, between those two lowly folks, the Aussie is the one that
likes to irritate many others, especially those who work for a living.
I hope the 16-plus-year-old largely-current FAQ on the infamous Aussie
says it well enough!
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 2 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 4:31 am
From: Jeff Thies
On 3/1/2011 11:05 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
> In article<ikkedo$esi$1@news.albasani.net>, Jeff Thies wrote:
>> On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>> In<90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d4d6@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
>>>> Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
>>>> a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>>>>
>>>> I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
>>>> some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
>>>> nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>>>
>>> You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does not mind
>>> making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making Aussies
>>> look bad?
>>>
>>> The Aussie here gained a FAQ and in ~1995 had an "alt" Usenet newsgroup
>>> existing, named after him.
>>>
>>> I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous Aussie
>>> here, between those two lowly folks.
>>
>> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
>> man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
>
> The Aussie appears to me to be a "legend" for reasons to rank him as a
> sub-troll under trolls and the Minnesotan.
>
> For one thing, between those two lowly folks, the Aussie is the one that
> likes to irritate many others, especially those who work for a living.
I may be more used to being insulted than you. It rolls off my back and
I go for the entertainment value. You know, you don't have to play the game.
I have a friend that is very insulting, but also very generous. And I
accept that that in him. If I didn't he wouldn't have any friend(s)!
The key, I think, is just avoiding frustration. If you don't argue
with the Aussie, there is no point let alone any reward, he's amusing
enough. If you act like you have a dog in that fight then you will have
a miserable experience. People, after all, do what they do best, even if
it is stupid and counter productive.
Anything new in lighting?
Jeff
== 3 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 5:30 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Mar 1, 12:53 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> As for frugal living: I own a car, but I don't use it to commute to my
> day job. Instead, I mostly use my bike (not much slower) and after that,
> a major done-well public transit line.
> --
Yep, I declare you winner of this match!
We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content.
Ed is a conservative and Rod sounds like one too, so there are no
winners.
== 4 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 5:31 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Mar 1, 10:43 pm, Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
> On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>
>
> > In<90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d...@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> > His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
> >> Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
> >> a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>
> >> I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
> >> some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
> >> nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>
> > You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does not mind
> > making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making Aussies
> > look bad?
>
> > The Aussie here gained a FAQ and in ~1995 had an "alt" Usenet newsgroup
> > existing, named after him.
>
> > I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous Aussie
> > here, between those two lowly folks.
>
> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
> man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
>
> Jeff
I don't think he calls himself "great" for nothing. He must have a
reason.
== 5 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 5:39 am
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 3/2/2011 6:31 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
> On 3/1/2011 11:05 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>> In article<ikkedo$esi$1@news.albasani.net>, Jeff Thies wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>>> In<90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d4d6@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
>>>>> Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic knowledge of
>>>>> a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
>>>>> some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
>>>>> nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>>>>
>>>> You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does
>>>> not mind
>>>> making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making
>>>> Aussies
>>>> look bad?
>>>>
>>>> The Aussie here gained a FAQ and in ~1995 had an "alt" Usenet
>>>> newsgroup
>>>> existing, named after him.
>>>>
>>>> I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous
>>>> Aussie
>>>> here, between those two lowly folks.
>>>
>>> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
>>> man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
>>
>> The Aussie appears to me to be a "legend" for reasons to rank him as a
>> sub-troll under trolls and the Minnesotan.
>>
>> For one thing, between those two lowly folks, the Aussie is the one
>> that
>> likes to irritate many others, especially those who work for a living.
>
> I may be more used to being insulted than you. It rolls off my back and
> I go for the entertainment value. You know, you don't have to play the
> game.[...]
Yes, people with easily hurt feeling from ad hominem attacks should not
participate in Usenet discussions on controversial subjects.
--
T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 6 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 5:55 am
From: Jeff Thies
On 3/2/2011 8:39 AM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
> On 3/2/2011 6:31 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
>> On 3/1/2011 11:05 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>> In article<ikkedo$esi$1@news.albasani.net>, Jeff Thies wrote:
>>>> On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>>>> In<90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d4d6@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's been a tough fight as any fight between Minnesotans and
>>>>>> Australians promised to be. The overwhelming encyclopedic
>>>>>> knowledge of
>>>>>> a librarian vs. the man from the outback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm inclining more and more to Ed's arguments as he delivers punches,
>>>>>> some of them below the belt, against the man who has absolutely
>>>>>> nothing to say. But you be the referee!
>>>>>
>>>>> You're talking about the petty battle between someone who does
>>>>> not mind
>>>>> making Minnesotans look bad and someone who does not mind making
>>>>> Aussies
>>>>> look bad?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Aussie here gained a FAQ and in ~1995 had an "alt" Usenet
>>>>> newsgroup
>>>>> existing, named after him.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous
>>>>> Aussie
>>>>> here, between those two lowly folks.
>>>>
>>>> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
>>>> man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
>>>
>>> The Aussie appears to me to be a "legend" for reasons to rank him as a
>>> sub-troll under trolls and the Minnesotan.
>>>
>>> For one thing, between those two lowly folks, the Aussie is the one
>>> that
>>> likes to irritate many others, especially those who work for a living.
>>
>> I may be more used to being insulted than you. It rolls off my back and
>> I go for the entertainment value. You know, you don't have to play the
>> game.[...]
>
> Yes, people with easily hurt feeling from ad hominem attacks should not
> participate in Usenet discussions on controversial subjects.
Who said *anything* about controversial?
We are talking about two usenet denizens who will pick a fight over
anything, and everything. Not that unusual for usenet where battles of
personality consume great thread lengths. It's like pro wrestling, but
"real".
Jeff
Jeff
>
== 7 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 6:09 am
From: Jeff Thies
On 3/2/2011 8:31 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
> On Mar 1, 10:43 pm, Jeff Thies<jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> In<90199647-994a-4de2-a3da-a17d9676d...@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote:
>>
>> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
>> man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> I don't think he calls himself "great" for nothing.
Perhaps to distinguish himself from "Ed Dolan the Lesser"? This is
Minnesota.
He must have a
> reason.
He did get RS to emulate the copy/paste insult bit. Although it is a
bit hard to tell whether RS copy/pasted before. He never mistyped
"fuckwit" and he also never got "course" right. I'll give him
consistency. Machine or mind, I do not know.
Jeff
== 8 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 6:15 am
From: Jeff Thies
On 3/2/2011 8:30 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
> On Mar 1, 12:53 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
>
>> As for frugal living: I own a car, but I don't use it to commute to my
>> day job. Instead, I mostly use my bike (not much slower) and after that,
>> a major done-well public transit line.
>> --
>
> Yep, I declare you winner of this match!
>
> We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content.
> Ed is a conservative
yes.
and Rod sounds like one too,
I think not. He is a libertarian/liberal/lunatic (lll). Definitely not a
social conservative.
so there are no
> winners.
No winners? As long as I'm laughing, I'm the winner!
Jeff
== 9 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 6:46 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Mar 2, 9:15 am, Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
> On 3/2/2011 8:30 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
> Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
>
> > On Mar 1, 12:53 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
>
> >> As for frugal living: I own a car, but I don't use it to commute to my
> >> day job. Instead, I mostly use my bike (not much slower) and after that,
> >> a major done-well public transit line.
> >> --
>
> > Yep, I declare you winner of this match!
>
> > We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content.
> > Ed is a conservative
>
> yes.
He sounds progressive sometimes, like asking for room for cyclists.
Rod denies you that.
>
> and Rod sounds like one too,
>
> I think not. He is a libertarian/liberal/lunatic (lll). Definitely not a
> social conservative.
Oh I thought they only happened in America. The virus must have been
gotten out. ;)
== 10 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:14 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Jeff Thies wrote
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote
>> We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content.
>> Ed is a conservative
> yes.
>> and Rod sounds like one too,
> I think not. He is a libertarian
Nope.
> /liberal/
Nope.
> lunatic (lll).
Nope.
> Definitely not a social conservative.
Not in the american sense, but I am in the sense of the second
one here, I do support modern welfare system, basically social
safetynets tho I dont like the fact that any safetynet does see
some choose to not bother to make their own provision for life
after work, or between jobs and just use the safetynet instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservative
>> so there are no winners.
> No winners? As long as I'm laughing, I'm the winner!
Nope, just a spectator at most.
== 11 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:16 am
From: "Rod Speed"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote
> Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote
>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote
>>> d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote
>>>> As for frugal living: I own a car, but I don't use it to commute
>>>> to my day job. Instead, I mostly use my bike (not much slower)
>>>> and after that, a major done-well public transit line.
>>> Yep, I declare you winner of this match!
>>> We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content. Ed is a conservative
>> yes.
> He sounds progressive sometimes, like asking for room for cyclists.
> Rod denies you that.
No I dont. You cant distinguish between tongue in cheek comments and what I believe.
>> and Rod sounds like one too,
>> I think not. He is a libertarian/liberal/lunatic (lll). Definitely not a social conservative.
> Oh I thought they only happened in America. The virus must have been gotten out. ;)
== 12 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:33 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"T�m Sherm�n� �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
message news:iklhbd$d9e$1@news.eternal-september.org...
[...]
> Yes, people with easily hurt feeling from ad hominem attacks should not
> participate in Usenet discussions on controversial subjects.
It is really odd how much I agree with Tom Sherman in everything except
politics. We should go for a bike ride together some day.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 13 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:40 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Jeff Thies" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
news:ikkedo$esi$1@news.albasani.net...
> On 3/1/2011 12:53 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
[...]
>> I would favor the particular Minnesotan here over the infamous Aussie
>> here, between those two lowly folks.
>
> Now, for pretty much the same reasons I favor the Aussie. I mean, the
> man is a *legend*. I'm afraid Ed will never have that sort of infamy.
RS is just posting copy and paste idiocy. That is an admission of defeat in
any newsgroup I have ever been part of, but maybe that kind of crap
impresses you. If so, cozy up to RS. He will welcome someone like himself.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 14 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:52 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8f7baff9-928b-4b49-9136-901a56522f77@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> I don't think he [Ed Dolan] calls himself "great" for nothing. He must
> have a
reason.
TM is starting to figure me out. That "Great" business is a stratagem I
invented to combat all the idiots that I encountered on Usenet. Same goes
for "Great Saint", to combat all the immoral cretins. I will always assume
the high ground since of course I am higher than all of the rest of you.
Yea, even higher than Tom Sherman who is the most intelligent poster to
these newsgroups even though infected in his mind by
liberalism-socialism-communism.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 15 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 11:03 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e117f088-c467-40e1-8ffb-a0fb2b6e1ebb@y31g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content.
Ed is a conservative and Rod sounds like one too, so there are no
winners.
TM, you are almost there. I urge you to stop with your single minded
crusade. We need you on these newsgroups for general discussion.
As you well know I am on your side when it come to how dangerous it is to
cycle on the roads with motorists. But you need to move on now. I think you
have the intelligence to make for some interesting discussions, but only if
you drop your crusade.
By the way, never lose your good nature. It is what separates you from all
the rest of us.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 16 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 11:13 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Jeff Thies" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
news:ikljda$1rj$1@news.albasani.net...
[...]
>
> I think not. He [Rod Speed] is a libertarian/liberal/lunatic (lll).
> Definitely not a social conservative.
Jeff has got that exactly right.
I have had some of my worst arguments with libertarians. I hate the whole
breed. I understand progressive liberals since I was once one myself. I have
had some very nasty augments with conservatives too. You get too
conservative with me at your peril. After all, there is such a thing as the
social contract. Even a nut like Rousseau was not totally wrong about
everything.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 17 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 11:40 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8t7fsjF7p8U1@mid.individual.net...
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
> Campaign wrote
>> Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote
>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
>>> Campaign wrote
>>>> d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote
>
>>>>> As for frugal living: I own a car, but I don't use it to commute
>>>>> to my day job. Instead, I mostly use my bike (not much slower)
>>>>> and after that, a major done-well public transit line.
>
>>>> Yep, I declare you winner of this match!
>
>>>> We all know the clash of Rod vs. Ed is about personality not content.
>>>> Ed is a conservative
>
>>> yes.
>
>> He sounds progressive sometimes, like asking for room for cyclists.
>> Rod denies you that.
>
> No I dont. You cant distinguish between tongue in cheek comments and what
> I believe.
That is because you seem to be permanently constipated. Try to express
yourself in a complete well thought out paragraph instead of a single
sentence. Or do you want that we should think you are stupid?
>>> and Rod sounds like one too,
>
>>> I think not. He is a libertarian/liberal/lunatic (lll). Definitely not a
>>> social conservative.
>
>> Oh I thought they only happened in America. The virus must have been
>> gotten out. ;)
Again, a failure of communication on your part. Try to write paragraphs
where you can fully explain yourself. Or do you want that we should think
you are stupid?
== 18 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 11:49 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8t7fodF6spU1@mid.individual.net...
[...]
> Not in the american sense, but I am in the sense of the second
> one here, I do support modern welfare system, basically social
> safetynets tho I dont like the fact that any safetynet does see
> some choose to not bother to make their own provision for life
> after work, or between jobs and just use the safetynet instead.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservative
Nope, you are a libertarian whether you realize it or not. There is more to
society than a safety net. Life is full of accidents and the race is not to
the swift nor the fight to the strong.
It is a pity you are so stupid as not realize the basic elemental properties
of what it is to be a human creature on this earth. TM is a simpleton, but
he is far wiser than you.
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TOPIC: Have we dehumanized death?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b4d7441ac1d43b2c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 12:12 am
From: Chief Thracian
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:55:40 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I hear the rednecks have a secret recipe for road kills.
>
>I'm not riding on country roads.
You watch too many zombie films. Too many redneck zombie films.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 5:34 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Mar 2, 3:12 am, Chief Thracian <chief-thrac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:55:40 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I hear the rednecks have a secret recipe for road kills.
>
> >I'm not riding on country roads.
>
> You watch too many zombie films. Too many redneck zombie films.
"The Vengeance of the Republican Redneck Zombie" sounds like a good
catchy phrase. Scary enough for cyclists and little cars.
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TOPIC: Is America waiting for the automatic bike?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8219630bbcdae831?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 5:56 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
Apparently it's not. It's been on sale for a while and the reception
has been lukewarm. Well, it seems like a perfect fit for all those
Toyota drivers who can save thousands of dollars, but this article
presents a deeper reason for this lack of enthusiasm...
'Most U.S. roads lack safe travel lanes for cyclists and few offices
provide secure places for employees to lock up their bikes or showers
for employees to use once they arrive at work. Until more support
systems are in place, Gamstetter says, it will be hard to entice new
people to try casual cycling or pedaling to work.
"We're up against the S.U.V.," says Gamstetter. "Culturally, the bike
scene in the United States has a long way to go."'
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/CuttingEdge/story?id=97909&page=3
So we are going to have to live with the same Toyota drivers until
they die or the gallon of gas hits the $8 mark. I just hoped our roads
became more friendly and that only true drivers stayed behind. But
perhaps what those bikes are missing is a good advertising campaign
reminding people that they don't need gas or insurance to ride one.
I'm getting one tomorrow at clearance price (200 bucks, brand new) so
I'll be talking later about the post-revolution vehicle. It must be
easy and reliable, right?
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:47 am
From: Mike A Schwab
On Mar 2, 7:56 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bullshit Campaign" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
They won't sell to other people the landrider automatic rear derailer
to install on their bicycles, which is a lot cheaper.
http://www.landriderbikes.com/
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 11:50 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Mar 2, 1:47 pm, Mike A Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 7:56 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
> Stop the Bullshit Campaign" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> They won't sell to other people the landrider automatic rear derailer
> to install on their bicycles, which is a lot cheaper.
>
> http://www.landriderbikes.com/
Interesting. Is it too good to be true? The other ones work with
computers.
Does anyone know any bike with Browning automatic? It senses torque as
well as speed.
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TOPIC: I want to get rid of my landline but...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/321423bed679947e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:04 am
From: JimSo
On Mar 1, 3:01 pm, a real cheapskate <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 1, 6:02 am, JimSo <jimso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 3:56 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>
> > > JimSo <jimso...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:294f5e9a-2156-42b4-93e8-5856bd9c8a0d@o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > Ooops, one more question:
> > > > I found this at amazon.com and am further confused now.
> > > > Is this a different product/service than the one I linked to above for
> > > > $79.95?
> > > > I found this which has amazon marketplace sellers selling the hardware
> > > > package for $40+5 shipping with a $79.95 credit towards 1 year of
> > > > service:
> > > >http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Power-Broadband-Telephone-
> > > Service/dp/B003B4
> > > > 2ZBE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
> > > > But then there is this which actually costs $79.95. Is it not the same
> > > > thing?
> > > >http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Power-Broadband-Telephone-
> > > Service/dp/B003B4
> > > > 2ZBE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1U1OLQDUY3F0V&s=generic&qid=1284404704&sr=
> > > 1-
> > > > 1
>
> > > > Seems to be the same thing except that the 2nd one is referred by
> > > > Phone Power's own site so they are getting the extra money, no?
>
> > > Yeah,
> > > Phone power sells their retail combo packs at many locations,
> > > including Best Buy. But dealing with Phone Power directly at
> > > their site is probalby the best option (why add another party
> > > to the transaction?). You can order up service and delay the
> > > port of your current phone number (I waited till the end of the
> > > 30 day trial). In the mean time you can make outgoing calls
> > > over Phone Power. You just can't receive them.
>
> > > It only takes a few (in my case 3) days to recieve the Phone
> > > Power adaptor after placing your order.
>
> > > One note: When you first connect the Phone Power Adapter, it
> > > will do a software update. While this is happening the front
> > > panel lights will blink slowly. This will take about 10
> > > minutes to complete. Just let it do it's thing. If you
> > > interupt the software update you my end up "Bricking" the
> > > Adapter.
>
> > > BTW: tell them that Gordon Reeder sent you.
>
> > Thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions.
> > I'll call them to ask about using Magic Jack along side it, but other
> > than that it sounds good. The reason I may go with the Amazon
> > Marketplace seller is that it seems like such a great deal:
> > $79 credit towards service (4+ months free) and all the equipment I
> > need (except phone) for $45. Then just $21/month (including taxes and
> > fees) for the remaining year... If the quality and service is decent
> > and reliable then it seems like the answer to my desire to DUMP ATT's
> > exorbitant service for a land line.
>
> > By the way Magic Jack also works for this for a lot cheaper ($40/year)
> > BUT I don't like the quality of the voice with MJ. Hopefully Phone
> > Power is better in that respect. Otherwise, I have found MJ to be very
> > reliable and usable, but for long conversations it's a bit annoying in
> > terms of lousy sound quality. This COULD be the phone I have hooked up
> > to it! But I don't think so; it sounds like the service...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> you can get a phone adapter, you plug your cell phone in and it lights
> up your landline phone.
>
> this and a net 10 unlimited everything 50 buck a month cell phone
> service gives you a cell and lets you use your old landlines when you
> are home
Thanks for that but right now I'm trying to lower my bill from $45/mo,
not increase it to $50. I guess if I had to use a cell phone a lot
this would be a way to use it for both home and car, but I really
don't need to use a cell phone except for emergencies so I just use
PagePlusCellular and buy $10 of minutes every 4 months.
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TOPIC: Mr Ed the donkey Dolan
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0deefff98b9882ed?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 11:15 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8t5qkqFg20U1@mid.individual.net...
> Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could
> leave for dead.
After its recent emergence in the thread "How to calculate increase
of home wireless router range?", readers of this group may find
this useful. [based on a post in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage]
Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod
Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered
he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the
big, hard man" on the InterNet.
Rod is believed to be from Australia.
Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?
It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering
away and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and
more try and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed
also means he as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first
place.
But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?
Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups
including invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a
self professed "expert" and flames any and all who disagree with
him. Logically, here's no way any single individual could be
more than a jack of all trades across such a wide spread of
subject matter.
But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?
Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a
view held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an
opinion and to vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is
simply small mindedness and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein
himself fought against his whole life.
What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?
Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any
other post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he
responds with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an
instantly recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty
much to the following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try
harder, trivial, more lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc".
The fact that Rod has been unable to come up with any new insults
says a lot about his outlook and intelligence.
But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?
It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people
who post have some basis of reason for what they write and when
Rod retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a
class room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges
the pupil to explain himself and the student responds with "***
off, Big Nose!" Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal
proboscis, he gets a dent in his self-esteem and might resort to
an emotional repsonse like "yeah? well your *** wouldn't fill a
pop rivet, punk", which merely invites some oneupmanship from the
naughty pupil. Of course, the teacher should not have justified
the initial comment with a response, especially in front of the
class. The correct response was "please report to the
headmaster's office right NOW!"
What is a "RodBot"?
Some respondents in aus.invest built a "virtual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an
opinion or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were
pathetic lying schoolboys who should be able to do better or some
equally pithy Rod Speedism.
Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?
>
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