Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 9 topics

Tuesday, August 21, 2007

24 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Top 10 money drains
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 12:15 am
From: Anthony Matonak

jon wrote:
> Greetings All!
> I am surprised that no one has mentioned pets as a major money drain.
> Jon in Upstate South Carolina.

Pets can be a money drain or a source of profit.
It all depends on how fat and tasty they are. :)

Anthony
--
To be fair, taking care of yourself are also a huge money drain.
The only way not to pay is not to live. Myself, I would rather live.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 3:48 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> "<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in
> news:vk7ic39evhie3e4laige3mrbauv814i731@4ax.com:
>
>>
>> 1. Children
>>
> Yes, but it's too late now.

Nope, you could just wring their necks and cut your losses.

>> 2. Credit Card debt
>>
>> 3. "Entertainment, eating out, bar drinks.
>
> Having children tends to cure this one.
>
>>
>> 4. Overbought house
>
> I'm a real estate agent, I see this all the time.
> DINK wants a huge house. Usually I get them to reconsider
> by asking who is going to be incharge of cleaning it.
>
>>
>> 5. Cellphone, hi-speed internet, cable or satellite TV
>> ( add 'em up !! )
>
> Agreed. But they can be played off each other. By making
> long distance calls (free) on my cell phone, I cut my
> landline bill. Also, with high speed internet, you can
> go with VOIP phone service and trade off the savings in
> phone service against the higher price of broadband internet.
> If you have a landline phone, then DSL can be a less expensive
> option to cable isp.
>
>>
>> 6. Overbought car/car payments
>
> Just buy a good 3yo car for cash. I havn't finananced a
> car in almost 20 years.
>>
>> 7 Insurance; house, health, auto, life. ( add 'em up )
>
> Auto insurance isn't optional in many areas. If you get cought
> driving without insurance you could get hit with some very
> unfrugal fines. Around here they have a form called an SR-22.
> If you are required to file an SR-22, you have to find an insurance
> company the will issue it (not all do). And the ones that do are
> the sub-prime, high rate insurers. Very unfrugal.
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there are more.....
>> <rj>

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:51 am
From: "Chloe"

"Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in message
news:GvidnYlTu-kMq1fbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> news:FR7yi.18573$eY.18038@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>> Manicures-never had or wanted one-
>
> Me neither. My wife used to get manicures as a "treat", but fortunately
> she
> stopped after the last one caused a bad cuticle infection.

I did that for a while too. Fortunately I stopped after I met a woman who
got an infection so severe and fast-moving the doctors actually talked about
amputating part of her hand.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 7:02 am
From: val189

On Aug 21, 7:51 am, "Chloe" <justsa...@spam.com> wrote:

> I did that for a while too. Fortunately I stopped after I met a woman who
> got an infection so severe and fast-moving the doctors actually talked about
> amputating part of her hand.

Yikes!! Top NYC nail tech on Oprah once advised that if any
manicurist even LOOKS like she or he is fixin' to cut the
cuticle....run screaming from the shop. At the very least, bring your
own implements.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 8:37 am
From: "Melissa"

"Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in message
news:_uWdnd14os9kq1fbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> news:re9yi.294$JD.93@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
> > I would never spend a penny for a custom ring on my cell. Each time I
get a phone I
> > select whatever built in ring sounds the closes to a standard land line
phone. When I
> > am in public I ignore the custom rings and recognize mine because it
does what people
> > think the custom rings will do,be easily recognizable as my phone.
>
> I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
> There's no reason to have it ring.
>
> Don
>
>

Don't get me started on cell phone users who haven't learned the mystery of
"vibrate". We were at a family funeral last week. The family had assembled
an hour before the calling hours, and the minister was talking to us. (he
was 1/2 an hour late, but that's another rant). While he was talking to us,
his cell phone rang. Instead of just silencing it or answering it, he let it
ring while he continued to talk to us. It was rude and just plain stupid.

2 cell phones went off during the service as well. <sigh>

Not using the vibrate feature is right up there with those who haven't
learned how to use Blind Carbon Copy when they email a group of people.

Melissa

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TOPIC: Let's Unite Against Jews and Mongrels!
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 12:55 am
From: "For example: John Smith"

Why is it that Slavs seem so often to be racist bigots ?
Remember that series 'How English are you ?'.
Most of the (apparently) ethnically English guests on the show turned out to
be (genetically) of Slavic origin.
THE most Slavic one was a near full-blooded Romany, FFS !
Look at the history of the Balkan peoples - nothing but a series of ethnic
cleansings endlessly repeated.
Nobody minds the Slavs coming here to pick vegetables and tile bathrooms -
but we most definitely DO mind them coming here and polluting our way of
life with their racist sh*t.

Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb wrote:
> Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
> Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
> When we swim in the light, all will be okay
> The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
> ------------------------------
> Let's break the chains of Jewish and black domination! Unite, white
> brothers and sisters, and let's defeat those who oppress our white
> heritage!
>
> Our skin is our uniform!
>
> Serbian Committee for Aryan Defence
> Nenad Milicevic, executive
> ICQ 208030128
> endymion@deadspam.com
> endimion@myrealbox.com

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 2:25 am
From: "a.spencer3"

"Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb" <i_hate_jews@shiftmail.com> wrote in
message news:1187652563.939367.319480@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
> Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
> When we swim in the light, all will be okay
> The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
> ------------------------------
> Let's break the chains of Jewish and black domination! Unite, white
> brothers and sisters, and let's defeat those who oppress our white
> heritage!
>
> Our skin is our uniform!
>
> Serbian Committee for Aryan Defence
> Nenad Milicevic, executive
> ICQ 208030128
> endymion@deadspam.com
> endimion@myrealbox.com
>

Oh darn it - and I just got the sun tan built up ..........

Surreyman

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 2:26 am
From: "a.spencer3"

"For example: John Smith" <qall-tisc@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:yTwyi.19882$mo.7228@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> Why is it that Slavs seem so often to be racist bigots ?
> Remember that series 'How English are you ?'.
> Most of the (apparently) ethnically English guests on the show turned out
to
> be (genetically) of Slavic origin.
> THE most Slavic one was a near full-blooded Romany, FFS !
> Look at the history of the Balkan peoples - nothing but a series of ethnic
> cleansings endlessly repeated.
> Nobody minds the Slavs coming here to pick vegetables and tile bathrooms -
> but we most definitely DO mind them coming here and polluting our way of
> life with their racist sh*t.
>

Many Slavs look a bit dusky to me anyway.

Surreyman

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:03 am
From: ampana

On 21 août, 09:55, "For example: John Smith" <qall-t...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
> Why is it that Slavs seem so often to be racist bigots ?
> Remember that series 'How English are you ?'.
> Most of the (apparently) ethnically English guests on the show turned out to
> be (genetically) of Slavic origin.
> THE most Slavic one was a near full-blooded Romany, FFS !
> Look at the history of the Balkan peoples - nothing but a series of ethnic
> cleansings endlessly repeated.
> Nobody minds the Slavs coming here to pick vegetables and tile bathrooms -
> but we most definitely DO mind them coming here and polluting our way of
> life with their racist sh*t.
>
> Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb wrote:
>
> > Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
> > Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
> > When we swim in the light, all will be okay
> > The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
> > ------------------------------
> > Let's break the chains of Jewish and black domination! Unite, white
> > brothers and sisters, and let's defeat those who oppress our white
> > heritage!
>
> > Our skin is our uniform!
>
> > Serbian Committee for Aryan Defence
> > Nenad Milicevic, executive
> > ICQ 208030128
> > endym...@deadspam.com
> > endim...@myrealbox.com

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:03 am
From: ampana

On 21 août, 01:29, Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb
<i_hate_j...@shiftmail.com> wrote:
> Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
> Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
> When we swim in the light, all will be okay
> The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
> ------------------------------
> Let's break the chains of Jewish and black domination! Unite, white
> brothers and sisters, and let's defeat those who oppress our white
> heritage!
>
> Our skin is our uniform!
>
> Serbian Committee for Aryan Defence
> Nenad Milicevic, executive
> ICQ 208030128
> endym...@deadspam.com
> endim...@myrealbox.com

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:12 am
From: Zaika

On 21 Aug, 11:26, "a.spencer3" <a.spenc...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "For example: John Smith" <qall-t...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:yTwyi.19882$mo.7228@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>
> > Why is it that Slavs seem so often to be racist bigots ?
> > Remember that series 'How English are you ?'.
> > Most of the (apparently) ethnically English guests on the show turned out
> to
> > be (genetically) of Slavic origin.
> > THE most Slavic one was a near full-blooded Romany, FFS !
> > Look at the history of the Balkan peoples - nothing but a series of ethnic
> > cleansings endlessly repeated.
> > Nobody minds the Slavs coming here to pick vegetables and tile bathrooms -
> > but we most definitely DO mind them coming here and polluting our way of
> > life with their racist sh*t.
>
> Many Slavs look a bit dusky to me anyway.
>
> Surreyman

etc....

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:34 am
From: ampana

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 5:25 am
From: Zaika

On 21 Aug, 13:12, Zaika <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 21 Aug, 11:26, "a.spencer3" <a.spenc...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "For example: John Smith" <qall-t...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:yTwyi.19882$mo.7228@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>
> > > Why is it that Slavs seem so often to be racist bigots ?
> > > Remember that series 'How English are you ?'.
> > > Most of the (apparently) ethnically English guests on the show turned out
> > to
> > > be (genetically) of Slavic origin.
> > > THE most Slavic one was a near full-blooded Romany, FFS !
> > > Look at the history of the Balkan peoples - nothing but a series of ethnic
> > > cleansings endlessly repeated.
> > > Nobody minds the Slavs coming here to pick vegetables and tile bathrooms -
> > > but we most definitely DO mind them coming here and polluting our way of
> > > life with their racist sh*t.
>
> > Many Slavs look a bit dusky to me anyway.
>
> > Surreyman
>
> etc....

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TOPIC: Apt Complex Laundry Facility or Portable, Compact Washer?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 1:08 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <Xns9992DBC5EAA9B5x55x5@207.115.33.102>,
Five By Five <5x5@5x5.com> wrote:
>
> I am in the market for buying a compact/mini washer, probably a small
> version of the front-loading Bosch, weighted more towards product
> quality/reliability/durability than in just finding the cheapest price and
> in risking known warranty hassles. What experiences and/or information do
> you have?

Good luck with your search. Before you spend much time with this, check
your apartment lease. Some landlords do not allow their tenants to use a
clothes washer in the apartment.

As for how much of a cost savings you would experience with a new
washer, I suppose it depends on how much you would spend to use coin
operated washers and how much electricity costs you.

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TOPIC: What the heck has happened here?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 1:10 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<46c8d664$0$27790$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"simon" <simon234@zap.com> wrote:

> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> > George wrote:
> >> Anthony Matonak wrote:
> >>> Wooly wrote:
> >>>> I mostly gave up on newsgroups for quite a while...Last time I
> >>>> checked here there was plenty of discussion going on relevant to
> >>>> the group name. Now it looks like about 90% spam.
> >>>> How sad.
> >>>
> >>> All that is required for spammers to take over is for good
> >>> posters to do nothing.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions are welcome. It seems about 99.97% of the spam is
> >> posted using Google groups and usually someone trying to get
> >> officially encouraged click revenue for their Google owned blogspot.
> >> Any spam forwarded to Google simply generates a robatic reply that
> >> they are sure they are not a problem.
> >>
> >> Google is truly the spammers best friend.
>
> > It sounds like grounds for a lawsuit.
>
> Only to fools.
>
> > If it's googles fault then maybe they should pay for the damages they do.
>
> Taint gunna happen, try it and see.

Right. Pay whom?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 2:17 am
From: Anthony Matonak

Shawn Hirn wrote:
> "simon" <simon234@zap.com> wrote:
>> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> George wrote:
>>>> Anthony Matonak wrote:
>>>>> All that is required for spammers to take over is for good
>>>>> posters to do nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Google is truly the spammers best friend.
>>> It sounds like grounds for a lawsuit.
>>
>>> If it's googles fault then maybe they should pay for the damages they do.
>
> Right. Pay whom?

Presumably this would be a class action lawsuit on behalf of everyone
who has to deal with Google generated spam on the newsgroups. As with
most class action lawsuits the only ones who get paid are the lawyers.

Still, even if it's only the lawyers who get paid, this could still
discourage Google from fostering and protecting spammers. They might
even start enforcing their own terms of service.

Anthony

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 2:29 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <46caada9$0$16431$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

> Shawn Hirn wrote:
> > "simon" <simon234@zap.com> wrote:
> >> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >>> George wrote:
> >>>> Anthony Matonak wrote:
> >>>>> All that is required for spammers to take over is for good
> >>>>> posters to do nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Google is truly the spammers best friend.
> >>> It sounds like grounds for a lawsuit.
> >>
> >>> If it's googles fault then maybe they should pay for the damages they do.
> >
> > Right. Pay whom?
>
> Presumably this would be a class action lawsuit on behalf of everyone
> who has to deal with Google generated spam on the newsgroups. As with
> most class action lawsuits the only ones who get paid are the lawyers.
>
> Still, even if it's only the lawyers who get paid, this could still
> discourage Google from fostering and protecting spammers. They might
> even start enforcing their own terms of service.

But the M15 spam that precipitated the start of this thread did not come
from Google as far as I can tell. Google may be an conduit for lots of
Usenet spam, but it is by no means the only one.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:29 am
From: clams casino

Shawn Hirn wrote:

> Google may be an conduit for lots of
>Usenet spam, but it is by no means the only one.
>
>

just 95%

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TOPIC: Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 3:30 am
From: krw

In article <1187660962.491126.74010@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Junk74020@aol.com says...
> On Aug 20, 7:21?pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> > >> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
> > >>> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > >>>> Paul Thomas <paulthomas...@bellsouth.net> wrote
> > >>>>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
> > >>>>>> The idea that a person cannot live in less then 1000 sq. ft is funny
> > >>>>> Yeah, especially since she can't take a shower.........
> > >>>>> As I remember, there's no running water.......
> > >>>>> 'splain that one to your girlfriend's mother over dinner.
> > >>>>> And I was under the impression that rednecks lived only in the south.
> > >>>> No, they're everywhere. The south just has the ones
> > >>>> who are *good* at it. North Carolina, frinstance.
> > >>> It's not so much a matter of being a red neck as it is being poor.
> > >>> Red neck is a sociological choice.
> > >>> Poor is often not.
> > >> Still is when the unemployment rate is 4.x% unless its physically
> > >> impossible to work and very few are in that situation.
> > > Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many
> > > people are unemployed or how many jobs are available.
> >
> > Wrong, its a measure of the number who are seeking work.
> >
> > > It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment benefits.
> >
> > Wrong.http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
> >
> > > Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > > Basically, only shows how many people are freshly
> > > unemployed and therefore still drawing benefits.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > > Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking
> > > that the government is doing something useful.
> >
> > Wrong, as always.
> >
>
> Oh, now I see its a survey .
> Like that is any better.

Like it would be any better for you if the number was handed down on
stone tablets.

> I have never, nor do I know anyone that has ever been ask if they had
> a job.

I've never been polled for a political race either, yet I have no
doubt that it's done.

> Apparently they don't send the survey to areas that have low job to
> worker ratio.

Apparenlty you can't read.

> And how often do the homeless get included in this survey?

They aren't seeking work, so obviously aren't included.

> They send them to the homeless in the streets?
> Or just to people that can afford a home and therefore a mailing
> address?

Ever hear of a telephone? Ever try reading? ...I thought not.

--
Keith

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TOPIC: Who loves ya, Rush?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 3:56 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
> The unique Rush Limbaugh audience. Salt o' the earth. The kind of
> dependable, everyday amurrican guy you want for a neighbor. The story
> doesn't say, but how much you want to bet he has a flag sticker and a
> support-our-troops magnet on his car? Representing those who spew hate
> for immigrants, other poor people, liberals, Democrats and feminazis:
>
> <http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Aug09/0,4670,ODDLivinginCar,00.html>

i think Hate should be outlawed....unless, of course, one hates the
Right people.

How About These For New US Immigration Laws?

* THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BILINGUAL PROGRAMS IN THE SCHOOLS.

* THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BALLOTS FOR ELECTIONS.

* ALL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN OUR LANGUAGE.

* FOREIGNERS WILL NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE NO MATTER HOW LONG THEY
ARE HERE.

* FOREIGNERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD POLITICAL OFFICE.

* FOREIGNERS WILL NOT BE A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS.

* NO WELFARE, NO FOOD STAMPS, NO HEALTH CARE OR OTHER GOVERNMENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.

* IF FOREIGNERS DO COME AND WANT TO BUY LAND, OPTIONS WILL BE RESTRICTED...
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED WATERFRONT PROPERTY. THAT IS RESERVED FOR CITIZENS
NATURALLY BORN INTO THIS COUNTRY.

* FOREIGNERS MAY NOT PROTEST; NO DEMONSTRATIONS; NO WAVING A FOREIGN
FLAG; NO POLITICAL ORGANIZING; NO BAD-MOUTHING OUR PRESIDENT OR HIS
POLICIES. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE SENT HOME.

* IF YOU DO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE HUNTED DOWN AND
SENT STRAIGHT TO JAIL.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 4:00 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

I think all forms of Hate should be criminalized....unless. of course
one hates the Right people.....

How About These For New US Immigration Laws?

* THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BILINGUAL PROGRAMS IN THE SCHOOLS.

* THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BALLOTS FOR ELECTIONS.

* ALL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN OUR LANGUAGE.

* FOREIGNERS WILL NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE NO MATTER HOW LONG THEY
ARE HERE.

* FOREIGNERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD POLITICAL OFFICE.

* FOREIGNERS WILL NOT BE A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS.

* NO WELFARE, NO FOOD STAMPS, NO HEALTH CARE OR OTHER GOVERNMENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.

* IF FOREIGNERS DO COME AND WANT TO BUY LAND, OPTIONS WILL BE RESTRICTED...
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED WATERFRONT PROPERTY. THAT IS RESERVED FOR CITIZENS
NATURALLY BORN INTO THIS COUNTRY.

* FOREIGNERS MAY NOT PROTEST; NO DEMONSTRATIONS; NO WAVING A FOREIGN
FLAG; NO POLITICAL ORGANIZING; NO BAD-MOUTHING OUR PRESIDENT OR HIS
POLICIES. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE SENT HOME.

* IF YOU DO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE HUNTED DOWN AND
SENT STRAIGHT TO JAIL.

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TOPIC: A cool new way to search Google with the Firefox browser
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 5:21 am
From: throwitout

On Aug 20, 1:11 am, Beaker <rbunn83...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 19, 2:21 pm, George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Beaker wrote:
> > > The Internet Explorer version is now available on our site. It works
> > > for XP and previous, a Vista version is currently under construction.
>
> > Why do I need your site when mozilla offers it and I know I will not
> > get spyware or viruses there?
>
> Certainly, that is a good idea. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't
> offer the same. My web site link is mostly for the IE people.

IE7 copied Firefox's idea of a search bar in the corner, and you can
add google.

I suppose you could add the google toolbar on explorer too if you
wanted to.

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TOPIC: Hotel surprises
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 7:18 am
From: val189

On Aug 19, 9:07 am, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
\
\
> An example of an excellent one is near Dullas airport.

The suspense is killin' me - Dallas or Dulles?

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TOPIC: Replying to trolls only gets you blocked too
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Date: Tues, Aug 21 2007 8:33 am
From: "Melissa"

Those of you who can't resist replying to the plethora of trolls are only
getting yourselves blocked as well. It's too bad, some of you might have
things to post that I and others might appreciate.

Melissa

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