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Tuesday, August 7, 2007

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TOPIC: Food Fraud: Not China this time
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/245ac529c9e4870a?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 12:18 am
From: "dfr"

PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:15:48 +1000, "dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> wrote:
>
>> And medicine in spades when no one has ever been able to show that
>> any of the stupid chinese crap like rhino horn etc does a damned thing etc.

> Look up the article on rhino horn exploitation in the National
> Geographic. The critical demand comes from the Gulf Arabs,
> particularly Yemenis who value rhino horn for dagger handles.

Irrelevant to the stupid chinese medical crap. In spades with tigers.

> Chinese merchants eagerly pay good bucks the shavings from this
> process. Chinese demand is constrained by this secondary supply.

No it isnt.

> For your info, whatever use the Chinese make use of with regards to
> rhino horn it is not for sexual vigor. With the population as it is god knows
> they don't need further encouragement. Anyway I haven't come across
> rhino horn for Chinese medicines for quite some years now.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

> Did a google search and the relevant article dated July 7, 2004 turned up
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0707_040707_rhinos_2.html

> Real rhino horn is unaffordable to mostly poor Chinese
> who are the most likely group to believe in its efficacy.

Irrelevant to how many rhinos end up dead due to that stupid chinese crap.

Tigers in spades.

> So they drink pop bottle size water that claims to contain rhino horn extracts.
> Read a story somewhere that buffalo horn is used. Whatever, it was fake.

Irrelevant to how many rhinos end up dead due to that stupid chinese crap.

Tigers in spades.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 12:24 am
From: "dfr"

Peter Bruells <pb@ecce-terram.de> wrote:
> "dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> writes:
>
>> PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Through famines, plagues, wars, natural disaster that wiped out
>>> millions and even tens of millions per episode. Anywhere else
>>> that would have wiped out a whole country and even civilization.

>> Fantasy. Bet you cant list even a single country
>> or civilisation that disappeared that way.

> Well, the Mayas very likely wiped out their civilization due to overpopulation and wars.

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> The local climate change did help, though.

And attempting a mode of operation that was unsustainable.

> However, only their culture broke down, they
> themselves survived in smaller numbers -

The numbers werent all that small, even with the decimation that the spanish etc produced.

> they just lost their citybuilding skills.

So they didnt actually disappear at all. Just changed the way they did things.

Hordes of countrys and civilisations did that, including the romans.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 12:20 am
From: "dfr"

PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:15:48 +1000, "dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>> Again your science is wanting.
>>
>>
>>> Its too bad the Chinese aid workers haven't managed
>>> to persuade Africans to use human waste as fertilizer.
>>
>> That would only make the HIV/AIDS problem much worse.

> The HIV/AIDS virus cannot survive outside a living organism.

Wrong, most obviously with used needles.

> Exposure to oxygen kills them. You need a cut, an open sore or an
> exchange of body fluids (go get screwed. Bet you haven't been laid
> for ages.) to transmit the HIV virus from one living body to another.

Wrong, most obviously with used needles.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 3:29 am
From: PaPaPeng

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:18:42 +1000, "dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> wrote:

>Irrelevant to the stupid chinese medical crap. In spades with tigers.

Hey, you sound exactly like Rod the Speed? Schizo clone huh?

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TOPIC: Conspiracies Revealed!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abcba658bc9c8333?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 12:41 am
From: Proginoskes

On Aug 6, 1:08 pm, conspiracy.bl...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://nasaconspiracy.net/conspiracy- Find out who really shot JFK!,

George Herbert Walker Bush.

> learn how they faked the lunar landing,

A soundstage in Idaho. It's still there!

> see what they are putting in
> our milk to enlarge young womens breasts in a goal to raise the
> declining birth rate.

Pfft. If THEY wanted to reduce the birth rate, THEY'd stop
manufacturing TVs that emit so much sterilizing radiation.

> Proof of extraterrestrial life

YOUR ANCESTORS came from outer space! Zecharia Stichin knew this
well ...

> and much more revealed here.

Such as:

How was an invasion from Mars was covered up by "World" War I?

Who was REALLY shot in the barn when the posse was after John Wilkes
Booth?

If the atmosphere of Venus is acid rain, then how were Russian probes
able to soft-land using CLOTH PARACHUTES?

Who killed Marilyn Monroe?

Who sabotaged the Hindenberg? And who was the "mysterious dark-skinned
woman" who kept asking about whether it had landed yet?

Who was the REAL Dr. Frankenstein?

What 800 year-old secret German society is the source of ALL secret
societies of the current age?

Was the "influenza" epidemic of 1918 really Earth's bacteria killing
off extraterrestrial INVADERS?

Why are trains more energy efficient than automobiles and airplanes?

What is in Jesse Curry's "Personal JFK Assassination File"?

Why is President James K. Polk NOT connected with any secret
societies?

What does the connection between the words ARYAN and ARES mean?

Whose head did they find when they did George W. Bush's colonoscopy
last week?

And for topicality ...

What is the "hidden mathematics" that THEY use, which is not taught in
ANY school?

How can you live like a king for $1 a year?

What secret force impelled L. Ron Hubbard to go after psychiatrists?
Do Scientologists know that they are Hubbard's "pawns" in this game?

What common combination of common herbs causes multiple orgasms in
women?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 2:34 am
From: Alan S

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:08:21 -0000,
conspiracy.black@gmail.com wrote:

>http://nasaconspiracy.net/conspiracy - Find out who really shot JFK!,
>learn how they faked the lunar landing, see what they are putting in
>our milk to enlarge young womens breasts in a goal to raise the
>declining birth rate.

Do you have an address for the testing facility?

> Proof of extraterrestrial life and much more
>revealed here.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 4:48 am
From: Markku Grönroos

menes nyt kakka muualle matkustus konffeista

"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:1186472493.383543.48550@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 6, 1:08 pm, conspiracy.bl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> http://nasaconspiracy.net/conspiracy- Find out who really shot JFK!,
>
> George Herbert Walker Bush.
>
>> learn how they faked the lunar landing,
>
> A soundstage in Idaho. It's still there!
>
>> see what they are putting in
>> our milk to enlarge young womens breasts in a goal to raise the
>> declining birth rate.
>
> Pfft. If THEY wanted to reduce the birth rate, THEY'd stop
> manufacturing TVs that emit so much sterilizing radiation.
>
>> Proof of extraterrestrial life
>
> YOUR ANCESTORS came from outer space! Zecharia Stichin knew this
> well ...
>
>> and much more revealed here.
>
> Such as:
>
> How was an invasion from Mars was covered up by "World" War I?
>
> Who was REALLY shot in the barn when the posse was after John Wilkes
> Booth?
>
> If the atmosphere of Venus is acid rain, then how were Russian probes
> able to soft-land using CLOTH PARACHUTES?
>
> Who killed Marilyn Monroe?
>
> Who sabotaged the Hindenberg? And who was the "mysterious dark-skinned
> woman" who kept asking about whether it had landed yet?
>
> Who was the REAL Dr. Frankenstein?
>
> What 800 year-old secret German society is the source of ALL secret
> societies of the current age?
>
> Was the "influenza" epidemic of 1918 really Earth's bacteria killing
> off extraterrestrial INVADERS?
>
> Why are trains more energy efficient than automobiles and airplanes?
>
> What is in Jesse Curry's "Personal JFK Assassination File"?
>
> Why is President James K. Polk NOT connected with any secret
> societies?
>
> What does the connection between the words ARYAN and ARES mean?
>
> Whose head did they find when they did George W. Bush's colonoscopy
> last week?
>
> And for topicality ...
>
> What is the "hidden mathematics" that THEY use, which is not taught in
> ANY school?
>
> How can you live like a king for $1 a year?
>
> What secret force impelled L. Ron Hubbard to go after psychiatrists?
> Do Scientologists know that they are Hubbard's "pawns" in this game?
>
> What common combination of common herbs causes multiple orgasms in
> women?
>
>

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TOPIC: The benefits of Papaya
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/54db445b4146caf6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 3:07 am
From: Philospher

The benefits of Papaya
Papaya has the properties,which are not present in other fruits.It is
a rich source of Nutrients.
http://foodone.blogspot.com/2007/08/papaya-benefitial-fruit.html

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TOPIC: Hand wash???
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3dd642fdb1e8579d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 3:08 am
From: "Chloe"

"Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46b7f309$0$8949$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
>> We grabbed some new dishtowels from Kmart on a recent shopping trip,
>> Martha Stewfart approved if that matters. Washed them and they came
>> out incredibly wrinkled. Looked on the label... Made in India, 100%
>> cotton. HAND WASH in cold water. Right, we'll get mammy to do that
>> next time. WTF??? HAND WASH dish towels??? Gee, what next, ironing
>> paper towels before use?
>
> It's that 100% cotton that is the wrinkle magnet. I don't know about
> hand washing them but you probably want to line dry and iron. :)
>
> Anthony

Or, less hassle but still a minor annoyance, remove them from the dryer when
they're still slightly damp and smooth the wrinkles out. Personally I'd just
take them back to Kmart. They're pretty good about accepting returns.

DH went on a spree a while back buying those white terrycloth shop towels.
We use them in the kitchen now as hand towels and they work well as dish
towels, too.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 4:42 am
From: Ward Abbott

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:41:18 -0400, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

> Right, we'll get mammy to do that
>next time. WTF??? HAND WASH dish towels???

I READ the labels on any article before buying. What would you
think if the label said DRYCLEAN ONLY?

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 8:01 am
From: barbie gee

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

> We grabbed some new dishtowels from Kmart on a recent shopping trip,
> Martha Stewfart approved if that matters. Washed them and they came
> out incredibly wrinkled. Looked on the label... Made in India, 100%
> cotton. HAND WASH in cold water. Right, we'll get mammy to do that
> next time. WTF??? HAND WASH dish towels??? Gee, what next, ironing
> paper towels before use?
>

well, actually, I bet if you just pressed them after machine washing,
they'd look beautiful!

(Martha is kinda crazy...)

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 9:19 am
From: "Ms P"

<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v3qfb3pecknp84dc8gmeaumh2pjr3uakbg@4ax.com...
> We grabbed some new dishtowels from Kmart on a recent shopping trip,
> Martha Stewfart approved if that matters. Washed them and they came
> out incredibly wrinkled. Looked on the label... Made in India, 100%
> cotton. HAND WASH in cold water. Right, we'll get mammy to do that
> next time. WTF??? HAND WASH dish towels??? Gee, what next, ironing
> paper towels before use?

Are the wrinkles going to affect their preformance? Can you dry dishes with
wrinkled towels?

Ms P

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TOPIC: people favourite websites
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/601e38a9c1cd45b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 3:46 am
From: clams casino

mahmar wrote:

>Dear Friend,
>
>I have found some websites:
>
>
>
You found your own websites?

Now that's brilliant.

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TOPIC: Best Internet Service Provider
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8918ee09f99ddf76?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 4:18 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

>What I want is FIOS, 30Mbps to start and Gigabit for a little more.
>
>I could turn blue, die, decompose and come back as Elvis before
>they'll install it though. Why sell real broadband where there
>is plenty of DSL to go around?

Verizon's installing FIOS in my neighborhood (with door-to-door
salesmen with big discounts :-) But DSL's enough for me, so far.
I want my phone to work in a power outage.

Nick

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 8:27 am
From: E Z Peaces

nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> What I want is FIOS, 30Mbps to start and Gigabit for a little more.
>>
>> I could turn blue, die, decompose and come back as Elvis before
>> they'll install it though. Why sell real broadband where there
>> is plenty of DSL to go around?
>
> Verizon's installing FIOS in my neighborhood (with door-to-door
> salesmen with big discounts :-) But DSL's enough for me, so far.
> I want my phone to work in a power outage.
>
> Nick
>
I think Verizon includes a battery backup good for eight hours or more.

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TOPIC: Build your own home "codes"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d67e138e69bbc09a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 4:12 am
From: A Veteran

did you know some owner/builders got the county building code "officers"
to liberalize the "Code" to allow owner/builders to enjoy "sub-standard"
construction housing? class "K"
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--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

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TOPIC: Lowering Cell phone bill and Talk Time Tips
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3d312e68aeacc9a1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 5:48 am
From: kaash

Lowering Cell phone bill and Talk Time Tips
http://mobilephone-guide.blogspot.com/2007/07/lowering-cell-phone-bill-and-talk-time.html

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TOPIC: not to be missed
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a048f4656f8c4df8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 5:59 am
From: trinidadbongo

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The show is called "Masters Of Science Fiction" and it is terrific. Well
written, well acted and well made with hard-to-predict plot twists and
endings. Not lame or hokey. Check it out. It has been a long time since
a good anthology show has hit the airwaves. This one deserves to be a
long-term addition to TV annals. Let's see if we can build enough
viewership to force ABC to keep it alive.

<http://abc.go.com/specials/mastersofscifi.html>

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TOPIC: Real Road accident photos...
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 7:13 am
From: Priyanka

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He was coping the Dhoom ( A Indian Hindi Movie) ...............
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 7:29 am
From: George

Priyanka wrote:
> Some days b4 a guy was killed in a road Accident.............
> Report with photographs at
>
> http://spamcenters.blogspot.com/2007/07/real-road-accident-photos.html
>
> He was coping the Dhoom ( A Indian Hindi Movie) ...............
> Girls, women, children, heart patients are advised not to see site...
> so, Plz drive with care..
> Life comes only one time in life...
>
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TOPIC: Something new
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ebb6eb47f011f6e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 7:23 am
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== 2 of 2 ==
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TOPIC: Find out How to Unlock your car with a cell phone Video
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 7:50 am
From: "Bob's Backfire Burrito"

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