Tuesday, August 7, 2007

7 new messages in 5 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Backhoe or dozer rental - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/62c19fdb9643f800?hl=en
* Do you think that "Muslims are real Christians more than the Christians" - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a17147adeab87db6?hl=en
* Rod Speed, how is Australia ? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6af50f3e8b494e32?hl=en
* Food Fraud: Not China this time - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/245ac529c9e4870a?hl=en
* people favourite websites - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/601e38a9c1cd45b5?hl=en

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TOPIC: Backhoe or dozer rental
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/62c19fdb9643f800?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 6 2007 10:01 pm
From: NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)


On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:50:25 -0000 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, Brian Elfert <belfert@visi.com>
wrote:

> Do rental places really rent dozers, backhoes, and the like to folks who
> have no experience with them?
>
Not the ones I deal with. For a Bobcat or other small loader,
they will rent to someone without experience provided you
practice on the dirt pile at the edge of their parking lot long
enough to learn how to use it. OTOH, their rates are high enough
that it's probably worth hiring someone who knows what they're
doing to run it so that job can get done within the rental time.

For the big stuff, unless you're a contractor, you'd better be
able to prove that you know what you're doing with a rig, even
just their motorized hydraulic lifts.


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TOPIC: Do you think that "Muslims are real Christians more than the Christians
"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a17147adeab87db6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 6 2007 10:32 pm
From: "laelahaellallah@gmail.com"

I asked in Yahoo Answer:
Do you think that "Muslims are real Christians more than the
Christians"
I think Muslims are real Christians more than the Christians:
Because they follow Jesus more than us. Jesus (PBUH) worships only the
Father and pray for Him only, just like Muslims. Believe only the
Father, just like Muslims, he was Unitarian.. just like Muslims!!!

A member answers me:
and so is all the prophets of God, Moses worshiped only God not
trinity either.

Another one answers me:
The Muslim view of Jesus and God is clear, while the view held by most
Christians is warped. Jesus was never God, and Muslims know this.
Christians will get upset at such a comparison between Muslims and
themselves, because they staunchly believe, without prior
investigation, that Jesus is God.

Muslims know who Jesus was, a Prophet of God. Jesus has a very high
station in Islam, as should be. Muslims are strictly monotheistic,
while Christians are polytheistic, even though they are not aware of
it. Muslims have a most clear view of all of this, while most
Christians are so lost, with veils over their eyes.

Not to mention, there are many more practicing Muslims than there are
practicing Christians. For argument's sake, I agree with you.

EDIT: Btw, Muhammad was often mistaken for a Christian, which he
dearly appreciated as a very deep compliment.


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TOPIC: Rod Speed, how is Australia ?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6af50f3e8b494e32?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 6 2007 10:31 pm
From: Jimington


On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:53:24 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>me@privacy.net wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> me@privacy.net wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> How is the weather down there?
>
>>>>> Not bad, winter here, significant rain,
>
>>>> Rod I forget....what city you in in Aus?
>
>>>> And.... what is the average winter temp there?
>
>>> Mean max in July, the coldest month is 14.3C, 58F
>>> Mean min is 2.3C, 38F
>
>>>> Does it get below freezing?
>
>>> The overnight minimum does.
>
>> Still tho.... a lot milder than winter here in northern Missouri! <g>
>
>Sure, its a lot closer to non coastal Texas, but without the snow.
>
>> Id say we have abt two week of weather in mid January
>> where temps never get above 20 degrees F. Maybe lower
>
>Its very rare that the daily max doesnt get above 32F, like once in a decade or more.
>
>> So the Aussie climate sounds MUCH more agreeable to me!
>
>Yeah, tho its pretty hot in summer, 10 days over 100F isnt that unusual.
>
Perhaps it'd be wise to add that the climate can vary a bit since
Australia takes up 7+ million km² of the earth's surface area.
My bit of Australia doesn't get (anywhere near) as cold as Rod's nor
has as many or as severe hot days.

Jim.

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My dull website.


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TOPIC: Food Fraud: Not China this time
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/245ac529c9e4870a?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 6 2007 11:26 pm
From: PaPaPeng


On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:15:48 +1000, "dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> wrote:

>And medicine in spades when no one has ever been able to show that
>any of the stupid chinese crap like rhino horn etc does a damned thing etc.


Look up the article on rhino horn exploitation in the National
Geographic. The critical demand comes from the Gulf Arabs,
particularly Yemenis who value rhino horn for dagger handles. Chinese
merchants eagerly pay good bucks the shavings from this process.
Chinese demand is constrained by this secondary supply. For your
info, whatever use the Chinese make use of with regards to rhino horn
it is not for sexual vigor. With the population as it is god knows
they don't need further encouragement. Anyway I haven't come across
rhino horn for Chinese medicines for quite some years now.

Did a google search and the relevant article dated July 7, 2004
turned up
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0707_040707_rhinos_2.html

Real rhino horn is unaffordable to mostly poor Chinese who are the
most likely group to believe in its efficacy. So they drink pop
bottle size water that claims to contain rhino horn extracts. Read a
story somewhere that buffalo horn is used. Whatever, it was fake.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 6 2007 11:35 pm
From: PaPaPeng


On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:15:48 +1000, "dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> wrote:

>> Again your science is wanting.
>
>
>> Its too bad the Chinese aid workers haven't managed
>> to persuade Africans to use human waste as fertilizer.
>
>That would only make the HIV/AIDS problem much worse.
>
The HIV/AIDS virus cannot survive outside a living organism. Exposure
to oxygen kills them. You need a cut, an open sore or an exchange of
body fluids (go get screwed. Bet you haven't been laid for ages.) to
transmit the HIV virus from one living body to another.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 7 2007 12:01 am
From: Peter Bruells


"dfr" <dfr@dfr.com> writes:

> PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > Through famines, plagues, wars, natural disaster that wiped out
> > millions and even tens of millions per episode. Anywhere else
> > that would have wiped out a whole country and even civilization.
>
> Fantasy. Bet you cant list even a single country or civilisation
> that disappeared that way.

Well, the Mayas very likely wiped out their civilization due to
overpopulation and wars. The local climate change did help, though.

However, only their culture broke down, they themselves survived in
smaller numbers - they just lost their citybuilding skills.


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TOPIC: people favourite websites
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/601e38a9c1cd45b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
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