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TOPIC: Freezing Salami?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 12:02 am
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

Hi, everybody,

When my local supermarket has sales on bagged frozen veggies, I
stock up. So I have about a month's worth in the freezer.

But, I was noticing the periodic sales on salami and similar type
meat.

Can they be frozen, with reasonable quality on thawing? For
example, a 300 gram salami, which would be consumed over a week
or two, after being transferred to the fridge? Or for regular
sausage 6-pack?

I am also interested in possible stock-up of vegetarian sausage,
which are made of soy protein. So I don't know how that would
react to freezing (different to real meat.)

Note that, I am a somewhat lazy cook, and most of my meat is
bought tinned, or cold-waiting-heating like salami.

Usually, I would chop and then stir fry with veggies.

Any health dangers?

Thanks...

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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 1:17 am
From: "Deb"

<Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote in message
news:MPG.21245b7dc6334e36989c9b@nntp.aioe.org...
> Hi, everybody,
>
> When my local supermarket has sales on bagged frozen veggies, I
> stock up. So I have about a month's worth in the freezer.
>
> But, I was noticing the periodic sales on salami and similar type
> meat.
>
> Can they be frozen, with reasonable quality on thawing? For
> example, a 300 gram salami, which would be consumed over a week
> or two, after being transferred to the fridge? Or for regular
> sausage 6-pack?
>
> I am also interested in possible stock-up of vegetarian sausage,
> which are made of soy protein. So I don't know how that would
> react to freezing (different to real meat.)
>
> Note that, I am a somewhat lazy cook, and most of my meat is
> bought tinned, or cold-waiting-heating like salami.
>
> Usually, I would chop and then stir fry with veggies.
>
> Any health dangers?
>
> Thanks...
>
>

I can't get out of the habit of shopping as though I still had 2 teenage
boys at home, so I often save on the big packages. I freeze most things on
a cookie sheet then bag it in a freezer weight zip bag. That way everything
is individually frozen and I can take out as much as I want at a time.

Usually, cured or highly salted meat, like salami or some types of sausage
will start to lose quality after 2-3 months. Date the packages and plan
accordingly.

The most important thing is to store with as little air as possible. Home
vacuum sealers are great for extending freezer life of food, but the zip
bags are a close second, imo.

Deb
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== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 4:48 am
From: "Chloe"

I'm certain you can freeze and use cured meats like salami safely. In the
back of my mind is a caution that after thawing they might seem more salty.
I'm not sure that's correct, though.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 7:01 am
From: shawnmjones@gmail.com

I would say you can freeze it. I sometimes shop at the Swiss Colony
(www.swisscolony.com) outlet store in Monroe, WI when I drive through.
They put together all kinds of gift trays for the holidays. I picked
up some mini garlic sausage links and they were frozen right from the
store and kept them froze until I wanted to use them and they were
fine.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 7:43 am
From: Wayne Sallee

Yes it will be fine. Salted foods stay fresh better,
because they are not as quick to freezerburn, and
react to the air.

I will cook a roast or other meat, slice it and cube
it, and then salt it down good, give it a few
minutes for the salt to soak in, and then put it in
a loose bag, (actually I will put it in a loose bag,
and then salt it down, and shake the bag to mix it
up good) and through it in the freezer, then later
take it out, let it just partially defrost enough
that it can be easily broken up back into loose
pieces, and then through it back into the freezer.

Then when you want some diced meat, you simply pull
the bag out, and grab a hand full and through the
bag back into the freezer.

A big bag of shredded cheese works well that way
too. And you can buy a big back of shredded cheese
for the same price as a block of cheese.

Wayne Sallee
Webmaster@LeesburgNazarene.org

Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG wrote on 8/9/2007 3:02 AM:
> Hi, everybody,
>
> When my local supermarket has sales on bagged frozen veggies, I
> stock up. So I have about a month's worth in the freezer.
>
> But, I was noticing the periodic sales on salami and similar type
> meat.
>
> Can they be frozen, with reasonable quality on thawing? For
> example, a 300 gram salami, which would be consumed over a week
> or two, after being transferred to the fridge? Or for regular
> sausage 6-pack?
>
> I am also interested in possible stock-up of vegetarian sausage,
> which are made of soy protein. So I don't know how that would
> react to freezing (different to real meat.)
>
> Note that, I am a somewhat lazy cook, and most of my meat is
> bought tinned, or cold-waiting-heating like salami.
>
> Usually, I would chop and then stir fry with veggies.
>
> Any health dangers?
>
> Thanks...
>
>

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Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 4:15 am
From: ultimauw@hotmail.com

On Aug 7, 5:59 am, trinidadbongo
<breakdownhotel@computers_stink.invalid> wrote:
> A quality hourlong TV anthology show is currently airing on ABC on
> Saturday nights. ABC has practically given it the kiss of death with its
> 10 PM timeslot and its August start date, but if enough viewers tune in,
> we all might actually get a show equalling the old Outer Limits or
> Twilight Zone shows. Most of you probably don't even know it exists, the
> sorry way ABC has promoted it.

Sometimes I wonder if they hope shows like this will fail so they can
continue
feeding people the cheaper to produce reality show dreck.

>
> The show is called "Masters Of Science Fiction" and it is terrific. Well
> written, well acted and well made with hard-to-predict plot twists and
> endings. Not lame or hokey. Check it out. It has been a long time since
> a good anthology show has hit the airwaves. This one deserves to be a
> long-term addition to TV annals. Let's see if we can build enough
> viewership to force ABC to keep it alive.

I hope the show takes off, it's been a long time since a quality sci-
fi series was available on broadcast, and
I love shows like the Outer Limits.

>
> <http://abc.go.com/specials/mastersofscifi.html>

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Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 5:52 am
From: "Paul Thomas, CPA"

"Robert Miller" <rober999@windstream.net> wrote
> Don't have to work nearly as hard to pay a mortgage,

You have a mortgage on your trailer?

> or pay all the extra taxes that come with
> making the extra money.

Yeah, now that bit of logic is very telling indeed.

Clearly you are totally lost on the concepts inherent with making more
money.

> If I don't have to make as much, I don't have to pay as much.

No, clearly you are correct. Fuckit. Let's all live in mama's backyard and
mooch off her pension - after all, look how little in taxes have to be paid
by doing so. Clearly those with a goal to be self-sufficient, to better
their life above and beyond being dependent on their parents for a place to
stay, clearly those people are just nuts.

Yeah, no wonder you "live alone".

> Is this the problem?

Apparently not for you.

> I can even take my home from place to place.

I bet. So do people who live under the bridge, they can pack it all up in a
grocery cart and move down the railroad track to another bridge.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 6:44 am
From: greg3347

On Aug 9, 1:13 am, MURS radios <horsesh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Agents find 50 illegal immigrants in tractor-trailer:http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=6905781&nav=menu90_3
>
> Where's the Fence?
>
> - Stewart (San Diego Minutemen)

Meantime the hacks in Washington DC cannot muster the courage to seal
our southern border. Both
Dems and Repugs pander for the mestizo vote and for the contributions
from the cheap labor lobby
as manifested by the United States Chamber of Whores (Used to be
Chamber of Commerce)

http://www.numbersusa.com/

Numbers USA

ted

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 6:47 am
From: "Robert L Bass"

>> The thing I know from my dad, and other people
>> in that age group, is that it's got to be really simple.
>
> I've never been convinced about that, it actually
> needs to be quite intelligent instead.

I think he means that using it has to be simple. On
that I agree.

>> Pre-warning buzzers and flashing lights will just
>> get them PO'd.
>
> Cant agree with that at all. They are likely to get
> much more pissed off about the alarm going off
> and triggering some intervention when they just
> forget to pull the chain at the right time of day.

IME the gentleman is correct. A buzzer or flashing
light isn't a problem as long as it's loud enough to
be heard but not so loud that it startles. Also, a
phone call to check and make sure he's alright can
be a welcome event to someone who lives alone.

I had elderly customers whose alarms we used to
monitor when I owned an alarm company. Once
in a while we'd get a "fail to test" signal at the
monitoring station and I'd call to check on them.
Elderly people living alone can feel isolated and a
phone call, even from an "agency", can be a nice
thing.

> And thats why a more intelligent system that
> works automatically on movement is much
> better than something simple too, you dont even
> need to hit the stupid chain daily, or need to pull
> it when it warns either.

I think there are folks for whom a manual action
such as pushing an "I'm OK" button or pulling a
chain next to the bed when they rise can be best.
For others an automated system may be more
appropriate. We shouldn't assume that one
solution is best for all clients.

>> Let's say "grandpa" forgot to "push the button"..
>> Worst case, is the kids get a call, and he gets a phone call.
>
> Much better to pull the chain when it warns than to
> have to field that call when its just been forgotten.

Not necessarily. During the call he might say, "Yes,
I'm here but I'm feeling ill." The central station op
could then send help or notify a family member.

>> Thing is, with a simple timer, it doesn't need to
>> be a "pull chain", but could be a trigger from a motion sensor in the bathroom. If they don't take
>> a pee in 6-24 hours, there's a problem!
>
> Sure, and that is what I proposed originally.

You can design an elder care system to check for
motion, respond to pendant panic transmitters, etc.
Sensors can be attached to the medicine cabinet
refrigerator door, etc., to make sure the client is up
and about, eating regularly and taking his meds on
schedule.

There's even a sensor you can place on the toilet
seat cover to sense when it's opened or closed.
The detector, originally intended to sense glass
breakage, is very appropriately named a "Wiz". :)

The problem is that the OP (as another poster
reminded me earlier) asked for an inexpensive
system.

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 6:53 am
From: "John Weiss"

"** Frank **" <noemall@xyz.net> wrote...
>
> I saw either the new Kia or Hyundai for around $6K a year ago. Cheap cars
> may not be so cheap when you factor in insurance, maintenance, resale,
> safety, etc.

Insurance will likely be much cheaper. If you don't take out a loan for
the car, you can do without collision insurance. The difference in
liability insurance rates will not likely be more than 20%.

Maintenance can be a lot cheaper, especially with the 100,000 mile
warranties in the Korean cars...

Resale isn't a factor. Depreciation on an expensive car may be more in the
first few years than the total cost of a cheap car!

Safety? Probably can't be easily quantified...

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 8:06 am
From: me@privacy.net

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>What I buy isnt necessarily the same as you either, mine
>have to go under an existing cantilevered 20' long bench
>which constrains the height of the freezer and I only ever
>use verticals, I hate freezers with just a lid.

But isn't an upright freezer working against mother
nature every time you pen it.... as cold air would
"fall" out of it rather than being "constrained" in a
chest freezer even if lid opened?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 8:18 am
From: Peter Bruells

me@privacy.net writes:

> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >What I buy isnt necessarily the same as you either, mine
> >have to go under an existing cantilevered 20' long bench
> >which constrains the height of the freezer and I only ever
> >use verticals, I hate freezers with just a lid.
>
> But isn't an upright freezer working against mother nature every
> time you pen it.... as cold air would "fall" out of it rather than
> being "constrained" in a chest freezer even if lid opened?

Yes. However, if you are short space, this doesn't help you a lot.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 11:02 am
From: Wayne Sallee

me@privacy.net wrote on 8/9/2007 11:06 AM:

> But isn't an upright freezer working against mother
> nature every time you pen it.... as cold air would
> "fall" out of it rather than being "constrained" in a
> chest freezer even if lid opened?

Yea it's the choice between efficiency of electrical
consumption, or efficiency of use.

Wayne Sallee
Webmaster@LeesburgNazarene.org

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 8:07 am
From: useful_infos@yahoo.com

For travelers, expats, conference-goers etc.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 8:08 am
From: me@privacy.net

PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I take a RDA of all vitamins once a week (or once a fortnight if I

so you only take one multi-vitamin pill once a week?

if yes....sound like a decent "strategy"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 8:22 am
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 9:28 am
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It "appears" to me that for $15/month I can get
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Is this correct? Am I reading their info correct?

Does Sprint have best data plan bar none so far?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 9 2007 9:35 am
From: me@privacy.net

me@privacy.net wrote:

>I'm thinking of switching cell carriers and upgrading
>to smart phone that has email and Internet access
>
>It "appears" to me that for $15/month I can get
>unlimited data through spint whereas other carriers
>typically want $40/month for that.
>
>Is this correct? Am I reading their info correct?
>
>Does Sprint have best data plan bar none so far?

I live in the USA.... Missouri if that helps

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