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TOPIC: FIGHTING THE MASONS FOR OUR FR33DOM
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Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 3:06 am
From: Joe Stirling

The Freemasons are a criminal organisation

A Freemason is a person who knowingly destroys peoples lives for self
gain.

Freemasons portray themselves as a good charitable fraternity of men.
They own the media so they get to say what they want. They have
infiltrated all of society. It is nothing less than an international
money making scam (same as the crooked pyramid schemes). Did you know
that the ninth degree Masons take their vows to kill for
Freemasonry ???? some charity. Masons are also the NWO's foot-
soldiers. All secret societies, orders and cults are as one
(intertwined) with this evil human virus called "Freemasonry". In
defence of most Masons, they were conned in the first place. They were
led to believe it was a good fraternity of men, then they were
hoodwinked and threatened with violence. If they had known this before
they joined, nobody would have anywhere near them. Masons are trapped
into this extreme evil, they are too scared to talk freely. They have
become FM slaves and most have become crooked benefactors.

This information is brought to you by Second Family (UK), a support/
pressure group for victims of Freemasonry. We are not a hate or
revenge group, only peaceful campaign for change and to educate 90% of
the world. One Mason will lead you to all other Masons in business/
politics/authorities and at social events, engagements, weddings and
especially funerals. We at SF recently contacted UGLE (United Grand
Lodge of England) and GLOS (Grand Lodge of Scotland) and the top
Masons at Rosslyn Chapel and others. We invited this "good charitable
fraternity of men" to talk to talk to their victims in front of a live
audience and cameras, no response. SF's offer is still available.For
further information please checkout www.secondfamily-uk.com

or
www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm

or www.sacl.info

or www.stopcovertwar.com
or

www.surveillanceissues.com

or www.raven1.net/index.html

If you would like more info, we have a free regular newsletter, just
send a SSAE. You can join us or be our anonymous friend, ex-Masons
welcome. All help and info is free, we appreciate donations (You can
also donate online) to help fight this common cause. We have proper
accounts and every penny accountable.
Payments made out to Joe Stirling at 93 Ashburn Rd, Glasgow G62 7PQ or
you can contact SF near you at SF, 4 Maes Tegid, Bala, Gwynedd LL23
7BF or SF, 68 Middlepart Cres, Ayrshire KA21 6LN or SF, 26 Radleigh
Gdns, Kent ME1 2QR, SF, 10 Picton ST, Bristol BS6 5QA, or SF, 34
Mansfield Rd, Edinburgh EH14 7LF or SF, 20 Carlcroft, Tamworth B77 4DL
or SF, 59 Rae St, Fife KY4 8LA or SF, 1 Spa Cottages, Cumbria CA7 8AL
or SF, 70 Byron Lodge Est, Seaham, Co. Durham SR7 0JY or SF, 26
Shobden Rd, London N17 7PG. If you do write, please get a free proof
of posting from the Post Office You can call or text mobiles 07834 329
287 or 07799 612 227 or our Glasgow landline 0141 560 4743. You can
email us at voacs@mac.com or stanboy@hushmail.com Make sure you get a
reply from us as the crooked Masons will try to stop you from getting
through. They are protecting their plunder. If you are happy being
controlled by a criminal organisation, you can either sit and take it
(colony of cash generators for Freemasonry) or you can join/support
Second Family (UK) to fight for your future and freedom. We all have
to expose these crooks to everyone, please copy/send/distribute/fax/
email this information to as many people as possible.

Did you know that your local Masonic Lodge and the Lodges within the
authorities (council/police) are all houses of corruption ? We pay for
these. SF have overwhelming proof. Did you also know that "Freemasons
Are The Ultimate Criminal Cowards" ?, They collectively persecute
people in a way that only the "Masonic Perps" (perpetrators) and their
victim know what's happening. Freemasonry uses all races, old and
young people, women (Eastern Star - female Masons). When you talk to a
Mason, you are talking to two people. This could be your immediate
family, best friend, Politician, Doctor, Police, Judge, Armed Forces,
Barrister, Emergency Services, etc. Do you think it's right that the
Masons are above or abuse the law ????

We at SF have plans to put all victims stories online (no holds
barred) for the whole world to see. If you are a crooked Mason and you
don't want a mention, you can join or support SF. This will help us to
change the world into a better place. We are not into revenge. The
practice of Freemasonry must be stopped. How can a person ever trust
another fellow human being after learning about this evil ? Society is
rotten to the core with this poison. (Second Family UK is the
antidote). Here are the Masons symbolic (occultic) numbers 3, 7, 9,
11, 13, 19, 33, 39, 66, 333, 555, 666, 777 and multiples of these,
i.e, 956 = 9/11 or 758 = 7/13 or 344 = 3/11 etc. Masons will live at
these numbers or in their phone numbers or vehicle registrations. Lots
more on how to spot the crooked Masons in our regular newsletter

Freemasons are the invisible terrorists within the local community.
They could literally clear up crime in 24 hours with the technology
available. We pay for it and they get to abuse it. Did you know that
90% of Taxi
Drivers are Masons. They see, hear and relay all movement and
conversation straight back to the Lodge.
Forget worrying about the I.D. cards and eventual Microchip, your
mobile phone is your 24/7 electronic tag. They already know your every
move and calls since you bought one. Now, don't get us wrong, we all
need security and we do respect the non-Masonic government officials
and non-Masonic professional people. Freemasonry is illegal under
International Law, Humanitarian Law and Common Sense Law.

We at SF have started sending this information to the neighbours of
Masons. We fully intend to name and shame all Masons to their
families, friends, neighbours, colleagues and relatives. The FM
perpetrators, infiltrators and spoilers deserve their name to go down
in history as the most evil, vile, despicable things that ever
breathed on this planet. They do not like us doing this, but then,
Masons don't mind secretly destroying families for self gain. It is
seriously in the public interest to ban the practice of Secret
Societies. You, your family and the planets immediate future depends
on your knowledge or ignorance. open your eyes.

Freemasonry is such a wonderful organisation and they say they do good
in the community (illusion)
OK, why do the members have to pay ? why the secrets ? why the evil
divide and conquer tactics ? why the vicious fabricated rumours by
getting Masons and non-Masons to hate a local targeted victim ? (all
local evil Masons watch the victim and their family being destroyed).
Masons also say the victim is a brother "gone wrong" so that all the
local "pretend brothers" will collectively persecute. This is
undiluted evil and can easily be let loose on anyone, top Mason or
not. Why can't good be done for free ? Why not the whole community ?
instead of chosen candidates (Masons cherry pick their slaves). Second
Family (UK) is "FREE" to all.

A Freemason is a fool and a tool to be used by the establishment.
There are 5 million Masons worldwide paying money (crooked Masonic
businesses pay lots more) to the very wealthy American/Israelis
families.
This is where the gigantic amounts of cash go every week. What idiot
would want to make the rich even richer ? All we can say to Masons is
that when you were born, you knew nothing. Why don't you ask your
organisation for answers. Beware of one sided answers. Get online and
do your own research.

Now here is the really serious part. This is their Achilles. If
someone you suspect of being part of this FM criminal organisation,
how do you find out ? You can't, the Masons won't tell you, this is
their illegal (above the law) protection (UGLE, GLOS and Rosslyn
Chapel will ignore your request) SF could help you find out. Why can't
we have a public register of Masons ? (SF has one, get our newsletter)
we don't want a register of any other group or organisation. There is
only one way to stop them and that is to work like them, without the
ulterior motives. They just hate the word transparency, it makes them
cringe, can't think why. SF is becoming a focused, professional
collective. This is why we started Second Family (UK), to help and
educate each other, fighting for FR33DOM. The secret societies are
inherently wrong and totally unethical.

Incidentally, we send this leaflet and our newsletter to all
newspapers, MP's and affiliated groups worldwide.
Please remember that we at SF can back up absolutely everything we
say. This is why we want a live debate with the FMs. Second Family
(UK) hates no one, hatred doesn't work. Unfortunately the Masons
defend their trillion, trillion (hugely underestimated) crimes against
the planet and it's contents, FMs try to defend the indefensible. They
are protecting their plunder. If they are supposed to be a good
charitable fraternity of men, why the false taboo ? why are their
victims in constant fear for their lives ? and why would they keep
taking down every comment or website that reveals or says anything
about them ? On top of all this, Freemasonry is witchcraft. This is
common knowledge all over the internet. This human virus is
brainwashing people all over the world (especially poor people in
desperate countries) every day. This is to protect the world's richest
families and bloodlines.

We at Second Family (UK) claim to be the only genuine, independent
support group for victims of Freemasonry in the UK. We have nothing to
hide and can back everything up no problem at all. If you know any
Masons, please forward their details for our "SF's Public Register Of
Masons" We will investigate just to make sure there is no malice by
other Masons/people. It's not all bad news, everyone on the internet
is waking up to this evil, there are huge anti - Mason groups and
websites all over the world. Also checkout U-Tube, Google, Guba, etc,
or just follow the links SF has given you. Never be intimidated by
Freemasonry (false taboo & gobble de gook) if you are not sure, you
can always double check with us. This text is brought to you by Joe
Stirling (a founding member of SF) a veteran victim of this evil
calculated derangement. I have no idea why I have been persecuted.
None of the SF victims know why. But we do have concrete evidence to
prove its the Masons. Everyone has the right to reply, please be
focused and sensible. Please join or support Second Family (UK) to
help us all. SF doing real good in the community We all have to expose
these crooks to everyone, please copy/send/distribute/fax/email this
information to as many people as possible. If you do nothing, they
win....

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TOPIC: Kodak Easyshare C315 digital camera died
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Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 4:12 am
From: Al Bundy

OhioGuy wrote:
> Our Kodak Easyshare C315 digital camera died during our recent vacation.
> It cost about $100, and was just over a year old. When I turn it on now,
> there is a red LED on the front that will blink for a while, then it just
> stays on. No signs of life from the color LCD screen. I've removed the SD
> card, put in fresh batteries, and even opened up the unit and tried blowing
> dust out of the main control on the top. Nothing makes any difference.
>
> My big question is this: is it worth taking this sort of thing to a repair
> shop, or would I be better off finding another $100 digital camera?

OK, let's parse this thing out.
You took your $100 camera on vacation in your $500 1969 van. You took
family pictures and the camera went blind. Come on folks. How hard is
this to figure out?
Try cooling it down with that refilled fire extinguisher from the
garage sale. This could shock it back to life.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 5:12 am
From: Petepenguin@webtv.net (P T)

I have a less expensive Kodak also. If you read the reviews at Amazon,
you find that a common complaint about Kodaks is they draw a LOT of
power; you have to be very particular about what kind of batteries you
use. I prefer NiMH, and even with those, sometimes the system will go
dead just sitting for a week, turned off.
You might want to try some different batteries. Alkaline, at a minimum.
Maybe take them out when not in use as well.

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Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 4:28 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid

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TOPIC: Four Main Factors Causing High Cholesterol?????
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Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 4:36 am
From: duke

Four Main Factors Causing High Cholesterol?????

or some, even maintaining cholesterol at the right levels and being
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> clams casino wrote:
>
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 6:10 am
From: Greg

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:29:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Its easy to insulate them.
>
>> Opinions differ on that.
>
>Its completely trivial to insulate them using rigid insulation board.

OK, let me change my statement. It's not easy to insulate them WELL.
Solid metal is a remarkably efficient thermal conductor. You'll be
dealing with humidity from condensation, as well as the need for
excessive insulation.

>>>> and the ones I've seen are quite shabbily constructed.
>
>>> Yeah, I'd start with a shipping container myself.
>
>> Too ugly. Not designed for living.
>
>True in spades of those sheds.

But that is irrelevant, since I was not advocating the sheds.

>>>> The houses at the Tumbleweed Tiny House Company are larger
>>>> than the 84 sq ft house, and cost more than $10K, but are far
>>>> better designed and constructed and well worth the price.
>
>>> Not compared with a shipping container they arent.
>
>> Yes, even compared to a shipping container, they are.
>
>Nope. Grossly over priced.

You just don't know what you're evaluating. Living in a rusty tin can
can reduce your cognitive skills.

>>>> I would buy the plans and do the construction myself, but not everyone is into that.
>
>>> I'd use a shipping container myself, hell of a lot easier to do and much cheaper too.
>
>> Much harder to find an area that will allow them, too.
>
>Nope.

What a well-reasoned response. Try to put one of those rusting hulks
inside the city limits of any self-respected community and you'll be
more worried about the gunfire from the residents than than the zoning
enforcement officer.

Greg

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Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 6:25 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

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TOPIC: Efficient A/C use?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 6:55 am
From: Shaun Eli

Before I had central A/C installed (do NOT use Sears for this-- to
learn why visit http://www.BrainChampagne.com/Sears.html) I had my air
conditioners plugged into X-10 controllers. With a telephone
controller I could call up and turn on the air conditioners just
before leaving work, so the house was cool by the time I got home.

That worked better than timers because if I weren't coming home until
late I wouldn't be wasting money cooling the house several hours
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 9:07 am
From: Logan Shaw

Shaun Eli wrote:
> Before I had central A/C installed (do NOT use Sears for this-- to
> learn why visit http://www.BrainChampagne.com/Sears.html) I had my air
> conditioners plugged into X-10 controllers. With a telephone
> controller I could call up and turn on the air conditioners just
> before leaving work, so the house was cool by the time I got home.

Hmm, that's a neat idea. Seems like you could do this with central
air as well, although it would be a little more complex. You'd just
need an X-10 module, a wall wart (or other DC power supply), and a
relay. You'd wire up the relay to switch the common line on the
thermostat, and then when turned on the X-10 module, that would
apply power to the relay (through the wall wart), which would in
turn let the current flow on the common line. With a typical
thermostat, the effect would be the same as that of switching it
from "off" to "cool".

- Logan

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TOPIC: Long Distance carrier advice -- Yes, again
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d676c088cd98a4cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 9:27 am
From: timbirr@mailcity.com

I know this subject comes up fairly frequently, but it has become such
a shell game that a post from a few months ago is not necessarily
valid anymore.

I am looking for cheap, reliable long-distance service for plain
"phone on the wall in the kitchen."

I had signed up for Verizon's Evalues plan a few years ago, and it
wasn't bad at first, that is until the creeping services charges
started to appear and then double each year.

So, switched to OPEX in May. Great call quality, but.....they claim to
send an e-mail bill each month, I've never seen one. You are supposed
to be able to check bills online, but I was unable to for two months,
despite many calls to customer service.

I finally was able to get a straight answer about my bill, sent in my
check and payment was promptly posted.....Then, couldn't access bill
again for several weeks. Same old customer service run-around on the
phone. Finally accessed bill, which included a 3-cent finance charge
for being late....Sent in the check. That was 2.5 weeks ago, they
still claim never to have seen it.

So, am looking for a new carrier. Any suggestions.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 10:30 am
From: Abe

>I know this subject comes up fairly frequently, but it has become such
>a shell game that a post from a few months ago is not necessarily
>valid anymore.
>
>I am looking for cheap, reliable long-distance service for plain
>"phone on the wall in the kitchen."
>
>I had signed up for Verizon's Evalues plan a few years ago, and it
>wasn't bad at first, that is until the creeping services charges
>started to appear and then double each year.
>
>So, switched to OPEX in May. Great call quality, but.....they claim to
>send an e-mail bill each month, I've never seen one. You are supposed
>to be able to check bills online, but I was unable to for two months,
>despite many calls to customer service.
>
>I finally was able to get a straight answer about my bill, sent in my
>check and payment was promptly posted.....Then, couldn't access bill
>again for several weeks. Same old customer service run-around on the
>phone. Finally accessed bill, which included a 3-cent finance charge
>for being late....Sent in the check. That was 2.5 weeks ago, they
>still claim never to have seen it.
>
>So, am looking for a new carrier. Any suggestions.
I have had Powernet Global for several years now, and have been very
satisfied with the low rates and billing.

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TOPIC: Idea for Cheap Alarm System
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e01b99bf93bb10f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 9:30 am
From: EdwardATeller

On Aug 8, 7:59 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:32:37 -0700,EdwardATeller
>
> <sorry_no_em...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I'd like to have a simple alarm. It could be as basic as a motion
> >detector that sets off a loud siren. I think that would scare off the
> >majority of intruders. We come in through the garage, so I would
> >just throw the circuit breaker to turn it off. If anyone knows a
> >product like this, I'd love to hear about it.
>
> Go to a bookstore, pick up one of the "Chicken Dance" birthday cards.
> Tie the little tab to the window, glue the card on the frame.
>
> Burglar opens window. Da da dadda da da dat da da dadda da da dat and
> so forth. Burglar either runs away screaming or starts to dance.

OP here. That's pretty funny. Also, thanks to everyone else who took
the time to reply. Some very helpful suggestions.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 9:35 am
From: EdwardATeller

On Aug 8, 10:27 pm, AZ Woody <reply@here> wrote:
> Robert L Bass wrote:
> >> I think those systems that are designed for the elderly should also have
> >> some mechanism to detect movement and alarm if there is no movement
> >> for a specified time between particular nominated times, so that if the
> >> individual does die or is unconscious, the system will alarm then too.
>
> >> Obviously the time between detected movements is different at
> >> night and day and in the bedroom and the rest of the house etc.
>
> > The ELK-M1G home automation system can do all that.
>
> The last place my Dad lived (independent/assisted living) had a switch
> he had to hit each day. It was a pull chain thing on the wall in the
> bedroom.
>
> If "on the cheap" is the whole theme of this thread, I can imagine a
> simple timer circuit (a one shot with a duration of say 30-36 hours).
> It's "reset" by the person each day (like my dad and the pull chain),
> but if the timer goes off, the alarm is triggered. There probably needs
> to be a simple disable, in the event that the person will be gone for a
> couple days.

You could have something triggered by a toilet flush, speaking of
pulling a chain.
Or maybe something that senses any kind of water flow through the
water meter.

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl cmamlfdfj
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c4183584fe6d6dcb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 10:17 am
From: Duke@remailer.metacolo.com

Milenko Kindl Cvrcko

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The campaign to persuade U.S. companies
and investors to halt the flow of dollars to war-torn Sudan
through China and other countries is making significant
progress, activists say. ADVERTISEMENT

U.S. sanctions on Sudan, where conflict in the Darfur region has
been branded "genocide" by President George W. Bush, already
limit most transactions, though humanitarian aid and
agricultural assistance have been allowed.

But U.S. institutional investors, mutual funds, and Warren
Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway have billions of dollars invested
in companies that operate in -- or have ties to -- Sudan,
particularly the oil business.

Activists have lobbied for investors to dump shares and bonds in
PetroChina Co. Ltd., whose parent company China National
Petroleum Corp. is helping Sudan tap its oil reserves, as well
as India's Oil and Natural Gas Corp. Ltd. and Malaysia's Petronas

"The burgeoning Sudan divestment movement has already
facilitated a response from companies operating in Sudan,
institutional investors and mutual fund managers," said Adam
Sterling, director of the Sudan Divestment Task Force.

He cited 19 U.S. states, nine cities including Los Angeles, and
54 universities that are beginning to divest from Sudan.
Sterling also noted major companies, such as Britain's Rolls-
Royce, have withdrawn.

Some $3.5 billion of foreign direct investment flowed into Sudan
last year, a jump of 53 percent over 2005.

However, after the first quarter of 2006 when almost $1.6
billion entered, investment dropped to below $700 million in
each of the next three quarters, according to International
Monetary Fund figures.

International experts estimate some 200,000 people have been
killed in Darfur and another 2.5 million have been driven from
their homes since violence erupted in 2003, prompting Bush to
label it "genocide," a term other countries have avoided.

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TOPIC: Free alternative: Stop getting gouged for 411 calls from Verizon
Wireless
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2719e6688e78d8a8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 12 2007 10:34 am
From: "Kenny M"

Program these #'s into your cell phone:

Google: 1-800-466-4411

and

Tellme's 1-800-555-8355

Both work great. I think one of them even offers to connect you to the #
you're looking up,

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99865DA781D76noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> samdaman34@hotmail.com (Sam) wrote in news:20070808102921.C00B04E759
> @outpost.zedz.net:
>
>> I discovered Google Voice Local Search in a web forum recently. It's
>> *free* and it works great. It's better than being raped for $1.49 a pop
>> for 411 calls from Verizon, on top of their airtime charges.
>>
>> http://labs.google.com/goog411/
>>
>>
>>
>
> http://www.switchboard.com/
>
> IT even finds people who are unlisted, unpublished or just plain un a lot
> of the time. It also does reverse lookups...handy.
>
> Larry
> --

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