Sunday, August 5, 2007

25 new messages in 19 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* Frugal cooking on outdoor grill? Just don't burn it - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9749cfb45c30d03f?hl=en
* used car - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4bc91883e5c3df2a?hl=en
* Milenko Kindl Cvrcko sdfssdfsdfsdfsdfsfs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/82b881fc30240f5f?hl=en
* HARAJUKU - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0e83b4e6126016bc?hl=en
* Check out Van with gas turbine helicopter engine - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8940667ccb65698c?hl=en
* Milenko Kindl Cvrcko sdfssdfsdfsdfsdfs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7b15d646cca07fd4?hl=en
* Find out How to Unlock your car with a cell phone Video - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/612188418648f19c?hl=en
* Watch Satellite TV on your PC for FREE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8b9c9938637d4d73?hl=en
* The Anti-Tax guys won -- round 2 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b15b2290838aeb55?hl=en
* (www.cncircle.com)wholesale jordans shoes ,AF1.NBA SHOES,jeans ,sunglasses,
cap - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/053d404641c659ff?hl=en
* foot pump valve sticking, how to save it? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1702c3cbbef5ffc1?hl=en
* Frugal Meds? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f7bc3df78d91ba3?hl=en
* rfpFAQ Availability - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8f2da6cfa76d0877?hl=en
* WHOLESALE RALPH LAUREN POLO, LACOSTE, GUCCI, PRADA, JUICY COUTURE - 1
messages, 1 author
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* You need to look into this oppertunity - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0521b55ffb98ba19?hl=en
* Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home. - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/911886124117ed11?hl=en
* IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORDS!!! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/dfd4341f5335dd02?hl=en
* Photo scanning service? - Follow up - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f598948386130fc?hl=en
* Enjoy Satellite TV on your PC - FREE!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/478a6f66ae7b16d9?hl=en

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TOPIC: Frugal cooking on outdoor grill? Just don't burn it
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9749cfb45c30d03f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 10:24 am
From: Rick


D. wrote:
>
> I just read this in the Baylor cancer center newsletter:
>
> The sizzle, the smoky flavor, the grill lines...barbequed meats are not
> only delicious, but healthy too, right? It's true-those juicy burgers,
> especially the charred ones, can contain cancer-causing carcinogens.
>
> "Grilling is a low-fat method of cooking," says Elizabeth Schaub,
> registered and licensed dietitian on the medical staff at Baylor
> Regional Medical Center at Plano. "But we have to be aware that it can
> increase our risk of cancer if we eat grilled meats too often."

Yeah. Emphasis on "too often."

Does all this pseudo-science have to be such a buzz kill...

Rick


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TOPIC: used car
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4bc91883e5c3df2a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 10:38 am
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)


In article <1186302293.715367.140610@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
<bob@coolgroups.com> wrote:
>I was just wondering if there's a good way to ensure that a car hasn't
>been smoked in when buying a used car. Sometimes it's hard to tell at
>the dealership.

Check the ashtray for signs of recent use.


Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net

http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 10:57 am
From: Duke


Milenko Kindl Cvrcko

eaturing Gadahn for days.

In the video, which had Arabic subtitles, Gadahn wore a traditional
Arab red-and-white checkered scarf and spoke in English. It was not
known when the footage was filmed because he did not describe any
specific events.

"Years of bitter trial and experience have revealed the danger
(embassies) pose and shown that the only way to deal with them when
they refuse to leave of their own accord is to expel them by force,"
Gadahn said.

Al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman Zawahri, also appeared in the terror group's
latest video, outlining what he described as the crimes of Western
countries against the Islamic world. As he spoke, the video showed
images of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as mosques
being destroyed.

The March 2006 attack that killed Foy, which was claimed by al-Qaida,
also killed three Pakistanis and wounded about 50 others a day before
President Bush made an official visit to Pakistan.


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TOPIC: HARAJUKU
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0e83b4e6126016bc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 10:58 am
From: lihatlahmereka@gmail.com


Harajuku fashion gets its name from the Harajuku district of Tokyo.
All the switched-on harajuku kids go there to explore the many clothes
shops and gather Yoyogi Park, the cafes in Omotesando Street or on the
way to the Meiji shrine to display their latest harajuku creations for
tourists as well as for their friends.

http://tinyurl.com/yuz2ns


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TOPIC: Check out Van with gas turbine helicopter engine
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8940667ccb65698c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 10:58 am
From: sara shh


Watch out Van with gas turbine helicopter engine...
http://dreamautocars.blogspot.com/2007/07/van-with-gas-turbine-helicopter-engine.html

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 2:12 pm
From: Al Bundy

sara shh wrote:
> Watch out Van with gas turbine helicopter engine...

Certainly not frugal nor with any practical use.


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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko sdfssdfsdfsdfsdfs
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 11:01 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke


Milenko Kindl Cvrcko

eaturing Gadahn for days.

In the video, which had Arabic subtitles, Gadahn wore a traditional
Arab red-and-white checkered scarf and spoke in English. It was not
known when the footage was filmed because he did not describe any
specific events.

"Years of bitter trial and experience have revealed the danger
(embassies) pose and shown that the only way to deal with them when
they refuse to leave of their own accord is to expel them by force,"
Gadahn said.

Al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman Zawahri, also appeared in the terror group's
latest video, outlining what he described as the crimes of Western
countries against the Islamic world. As he spoke, the video showed
images of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as mosques
being destroyed.

The March 2006 attack that killed Foy, which was claimed by al-Qaida,
also killed three Pakistanis and wounded about 50 others a day before
President Bush made an official visit to Pakistan.


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TOPIC: Find out How to Unlock your car with a cell phone Video
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/612188418648f19c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 11:12 am
From: bosad87


Watch out How to Unlock your car with a cell phone Video...
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TOPIC: Watch Satellite TV on your PC for FREE

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8b9c9938637d4d73?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 11:47 am
From: Ana James


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TOPIC: The Anti-Tax guys won -- round 2
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 12:11 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


clams casino <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote
> The Real Bev wrote
>> Dennis wrote

>>> But I wouldn't mind seeing the income tax replaced by a national sales tax/VAT.

>> For garage sales too? Theory has it that they're supposed to charge
>> (and remit) sales tax (8.5% here), but only the professional sellers
>> actually do it.

> Which is why the IRS would have to triple in size if the US went to a
> national sales or Vat tax.

Nope, most countrys dont tax garage sales when they have a national sales or GST/VAT.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 1:46 pm
From: clams casino


Binyamin Dissen wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:25:24 -0700 The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>:>Dennis wrote:
>
>:>> But I wouldn't mind seeing the income tax replaced by a national sales
>:>> tax/VAT.
>
>:>For garage sales too? Theory has it that they're supposed to charge (and
>:>remit) sales tax (8.5% here), but only the professional sellers actually do it.
>
>Even when they already paid sales tax when purchasing the product?
>
>
>
Some locations items allow for such on some items, but sales tax is
generally due even if resold. Ever buy through Salvation Army,
Goodwill, etc?

Ever buy a used car? From what I recall on trades, one pays the
difference between the new & trade, but if you buy from an individual,
there will likely be a sales tax on the used, regardless of the amount
the seller had paid (unless transferred between family members).

If items are intentionally to be resold, they are generally exempt (for
the seller) from paying sale tax initially.


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TOPIC: foot pump valve sticking, how to save it?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1702c3cbbef5ffc1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 1:01 pm
From: beerismygas


thanks for the tip.
> extra parts. If not, you might have something here to begin such an
> inventory with.



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TOPIC: Frugal Meds?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 1:23 pm
From: Steve


"Cody Wells" <invalid@net.com> wrote:
>Does anyone use fish Amoxicillin or Penicillin for human consumption? It's
>a lot cheaper than prescription.

Nah, just eat the fish.


--

The covers of this book are too far apart.

...Ambrose Bierce


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TOPIC: rfpFAQ Availability
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 1:32 pm
From: ScubaPix


Sorry for the delay in posting this. I wanted to get an addition into it
(thanks Edrena).

This is the monthly posting on the availability and where to find the
rfpFAQ.

The FAQ is available at http://rfpfaq.jaclu.com/rfpFAQ.htm. A
'differences' file is available at http://rfpfaq.jaclu.com/differences.htm

which gives the history of all changes, the date changed and the associated
version number.

The version is now 4.2.11. A new Section D.1.2 was inserted with the answer
to "Why can't we substitute ascorbic acid (vitamin C) for citric acid (sour
salt) or lemon juice for acidifying canned goods?"


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 1:57 pm
From: clams casino


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>
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TOPIC: You need to look into this oppertunity
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 3:47 pm
From: Rick


George wrote:
>
> tstanley63@gmail.com wrote:
> > If you spend time behind your computer you must read this opportunity.
> > It is real and well worth your time to investigate.
> >
> > http://www.spam4dummies.com/index.php?uid=1623
> >
> I spend more time in front of my computer than behind it so does this
> spam apply to me?
>
> The original post was brought to us by Google, the spammers friend.

Gee, I wonder what that opportunity could be, for being *behind* your
computer? I usually find a computer works far better being in front of
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Rick


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TOPIC: Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 3:59 pm
From: "Paul Thomas"

"Nick Hull" <nhull@isp.com> wrote
> "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> "Robert Miller" <rober999@windstream.net> wrote
>> > Currently I'm parked on my mother's property.
>>
>> > I live alone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Damn. Not a facts I'd put on the internet.
>
>
> A woman can live alone and take care of herself :)

Maybe so - but "Robert" - not Roberta........claimed to live on mama's
property, and to be living alone.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 6:24 pm
From: "Paul Maffia"

"Paul Thomas" <paulthomascpa@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:lytti.4858$2v5.4042@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> "Nick Hull" <nhull@isp.com> wrote
>> "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> "Robert Miller" <rober999@windstream.net> wrote
>>> > Currently I'm parked on my mother's property.
>>> > I live alone
>>> Damn. Not a facts I'd put on the internet.
>> A woman can live alone and take care of herself :)
> Maybe so - but "Robert" - not Roberta........claimed to live on mama's
> property, and to be living alone.

Interesting isn't it, both Eldon Warman, The Canadian Moron, and Robert live
or lived off of Mom. Robert must be as big a winner as Eldon. He sure is in
the same league IQ wise.


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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 5:02 pm
From: laelahaellallah3@gmail.com


IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORDS!!!

In RSV Bible see the sixth paragraph of the preface (for example only
you can complete reading and discovering by yourself):

YET THE KING JAMES VERSION HAS GRAVE DEFECTS. By the middle of the
nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the
discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the
King James Version was based made it manifest that THESE DEFECTS ARE
SO MANY AND SO SERIUOSE to call for revision of the English
translation.

Complete the preface you will find it in your book. So, I can ask you:
IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORDS!!!!?

Peace and Blessing..

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 6:06 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:02:55 -0700, laelahaellallah3@gmail.com wrote:

>THESE DEFECTS ARE
>SO MANY AND SO SERIUOSE to call for revision of the English
>translation.

Really? I am austounddded.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 6:42 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <1186358575.995660.278740@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
laelahaellallah3@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Complete the preface you will find it in your book. So, I can ask you:
> IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORDS!!!!?

Being an atheist, I don't have to answer that question. All I have to do
is to continue doubting until someone provides undeniable proof that the
Bible is God's word.


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TOPIC: Photo scanning service? - Follow up
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 7:24 pm
From: Rick


me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Rick <rickajho@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> >Each one of those photos has to be
> >manually placed into a scanner, scanned, saved and then all burned onto
> >a CD once it's all done. Digitizing just about *any* other format -
> >slides, negatives, video tape or 8mm film - is a lot less labor
> >intensive than individual photos. They key here - and cost - is having
> >someone else do it.
>
> Yep
>
> It IS manually intensive....as you said each print has
> to be inserted into the scanner

So I was in a Walgreens Friday and checked things out. You can scan the
photos yourself and get a CD created for only $2.99. Again though - the
key here to the $2.99 frugal part is standing there and scanning the
photos yourself. Originally you were asking about having someone else do
it so I don't know if this option will interest you.

I didn't fully check out how flexible this is but I did find out a
couple things:

You are limited to pre-set, standard scan sizes. You can pick from the
usual standard photo formats: 3.5x5, 4x6, 5x7" etc. If you have old
format 110 or 126 photos you will have to adapt and work with that,
probably ending up with a blank "frame" on either side of the photo.
(What was the old 110 format? 3.25" square? No preset options for the
older formats.)

I didn't see any options to set a scan resolution. Whatever default the
scanner is set to use is what you get. If you wanted to make the photos
appear larger for on-screen viewing, but the scanner is stuck at
something like 96 dpi, the photos won't appear any larger on screen than
the size of the original. A DVD player with a zoom feature can make them
look larger, but that may make them look just blurry as well if these
kiosks don't scan any higher than 96 dpi.

The person I asked didn't say what format the files are stored in - and
couldn't care less to actually answer the question. If they are actually
creating Kodak Photo CD format then you could do a batch of 20 or so at
a time, bring the same CD back, and do another batch and have those
added to the same CD in another "album." It would cost $2.99 each time
you do that. If it's just .JPG images dumped on a CD then it would cost
$2.99 for each new CD and you would end up with the images dumped on
separate CD's that need to be kept track of. One way or the other, this
would help to break the labor part into more manageable batches.

Good idea to bring your own spray cleaner and a soft cloth. These stores
aren't known for actually cleaning the scanner glass. It was disgusting
in this store - looked like it hadn't been Windexed in a good six
months.

HTH

Rick

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 5 2007 7:39 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:24:45 -0400, Rick <rickajho@rcn.com> wrote:

>Good idea to bring your own spray cleaner and a soft cloth. These stores
>aren't known for actually cleaning the scanner glass. It was disgusting
>in this store - looked like it hadn't been Windexed in a good six
>months.

Not good for those Greek wedding pics...


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== 1 of 1 ==
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