Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 15 topics

Saturday, September 29, 2007

25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Crowd cheers as Tancredo blasts illegal -- and legal -- immigration in
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 11:45 am
From: "Sanders Kaufman"

"Thanatos" <tn113@imac.com> wrote in message
news:tn113-008D80.14242229092007@news.giganews.com...

> Ah, so if one doesn't choose to align themselves with either of
> big-money corrupt-a-thon political parties, they should be insulted and
> denigrated?

It's interesting to see Libertarians - who overwhelmingly voted FOR Bush -
to now claim that they are not aligned with any party.

The problem is not that you Libertarians don't align with the two parties.
It's more that you don't align with any principles, either.
The only thing the Libertarians uniformly believe is that the US government
is something to be hated, feared, and fought against.

If y'all actually stood FOR something, you could probably whip both parties
in every race.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:49 pm
From: Thanatos

In article <C3xLi.37521$RX.14861@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

> "Thanatos" <tn113@imac.com> wrote in message
> news:tn113-008D80.14242229092007@news.giganews.com...
>
> > Ah, so if one doesn't choose to align themselves with
> > either of big-money corrupt-a-thon political parties,
> > they should be insulted and denigrated?

> It's interesting to see Libertarians - who overwhelmingly
> voted FOR Bush - to now claim that they are not aligned
> with any party.

I never claimed to be a Libertarian. Nor did I vote for Bush. I'm merely
disdainful of the idea that there's any real difference between the two
political parties. They both operate on one overriding principle: the
acquisition of power and the $$$ it takes to do it.

> The problem is not that you Libertarians don't align
> with the two parties.

"You" Libertarians? Where did I ever claim to be such?

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 1:36 pm
From: "Bill Walker"

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:C3xLi.37521$RX.14861@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> "Thanatos" <tn113@imac.com> wrote in message
> news:tn113-008D80.14242229092007@news.giganews.com...
>
>> Ah, so if one doesn't choose to align themselves with either of
>> big-money corrupt-a-thon political parties, they should be insulted and
>> denigrated?
>
> It's interesting to see Libertarians - who overwhelmingly voted FOR Bush -
> to now claim that they are not aligned with any party.
>
> The problem is not that you Libertarians don't align with the two parties.
> It's more that you don't align with any principles, either.
> The only thing the Libertarians uniformly believe is that the US
> government is something to be hated, feared, and fought against.
>
> If y'all actually stood FOR something, you could probably whip both
> parties in every race.

There you go.. making another "libel".. Jeez, Kaufman.. you are
incorrigible..
>
>

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 1:38 pm
From: "Bill Walker"

"Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
news:atropos-455113.15494429092007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <C3xLi.37521$RX.14861@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
> "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:
>
>> "Thanatos" <tn113@imac.com> wrote in message
>> news:tn113-008D80.14242229092007@news.giganews.com...
>>
>> > Ah, so if one doesn't choose to align themselves with
>> > either of big-money corrupt-a-thon political parties,
>> > they should be insulted and denigrated?
>
>> It's interesting to see Libertarians - who overwhelmingly
>> voted FOR Bush - to now claim that they are not aligned
>> with any party.
>
> I never claimed to be a Libertarian. Nor did I vote for Bush. I'm merely
> disdainful of the idea that there's any real difference between the two
> political parties. They both operate on one overriding principle: the
> acquisition of power and the $$$ it takes to do it.
>
>> The problem is not that you Libertarians don't align
>> with the two parties.
>
> "You" Libertarians? Where did I ever claim to be such?

tsk.. tsk.. I apologize for Kaufman.. <sigh> I've been talking to him
about making a "libel" against all you Bushwores.. He just won't
listen..

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 2:45 pm
From: Thanatos

In article <UIyLi.661$P06.18@trnddc05>,
"Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.net> wrote:

> "Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:atropos-455113.15494429092007@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <C3xLi.37521$RX.14861@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
> > "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Thanatos" <tn113@imac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:tn113-008D80.14242229092007@news.giganews.com...
> >>
> >> > Ah, so if one doesn't choose to align themselves with
> >> > either of big-money corrupt-a-thon political parties,
> >> > they should be insulted and denigrated?
> >
> >> It's interesting to see Libertarians - who overwhelmingly
> >> voted FOR Bush - to now claim that they are not aligned
> >> with any party.
> >
> > I never claimed to be a Libertarian. Nor did I vote for
> > Bush. I'm merely disdainful of the idea that there's any
> > real difference between the two political parties. They
> > both operate on one overriding principle: the acquisition
> > of power and the $$$ it takes to do it.
> >
> >> The problem is not that you Libertarians don't align
> >> with the two parties.
> >
> > "You" Libertarians? Where did I ever claim to be such?
>
> tsk.. tsk.. I apologize for Kaufman.. <sigh> I've been
> talking to him about making a "libel" against all you
> Bushwores.. He just won't listen..

Yeah, he's a real jerk to you Bushwhores. He oughta stop that.

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TOPIC: The loan website is uploaded
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 11:48 am
From: scxrpvblor0xwupd3edli@googlemail.com

Hi,
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thanks

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TOPIC: How Marketing Manipulates You
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:

>> Here is an example of how marketing will try to manipulate you to buy.
>>
>> And when buying an used car overwhelmingly is a better deal in almost
>> all cases, the article chips away at that fact to push you into buying
>> new.
>
> I don't think the writer from The Motley Fool is a marketing person trying
> to get you to buy a new car rather than a used one. Instead, I think it's
> an article about the fact rules have exceptions. In this case, the rule
> that buying a late-model used car is a better deal than buying new is the
> rule with exceptions.
>
> And, as far as I can tell, it's a bona fide exception. In recent years,
> some hybrids have been just as expensive used as they have been new. In
> that case, buying used means getting an inferior product for the same price.
> Not a good deal, and definitely an exception to the rule.
>
> Of course, when used prices are the same as new, it does make things sound
> a little fishy, so what's going on? Well, personally, I think it's a matter
> of pricing quirks. Pricing is a complex thing. Think of supply and demand,
> but there are also a bunch of other variables, many of them psychological,
> that influence prices.

> The important thing in this case is that hybrid vehicles were an unexpected
> hit for the auto industry. They sold way more than they projected.

It was more that they produce much less profit per car for the manufacturers
and they chose to restrict the number they produced for that reason.

There's a reason that so few manufacturers even bother to produce them at all.

> So, what happens in the auto industry when a model is in much more demand than projected?

> Well, a couple of things. First, the auto industry works in such a way that
> the products (cars) almost always sell for less than the price on the sticker.
> There is some room for negotiation built in to the sticker price, and
> negotiating is the norm. Second, the auto industry is a pretty stable
> industry. Automakers stand to lose millions or billions if they introduce
> a model that's a flop, so they are pretty conservative with things. They
> usually have a pretty good idea in advance how well something is going to
> sell.
>
> So, in the auto industry, if a product is in strong demand, the automaker
> doesn't need to do all that much to adjust the sticker price. The leeway
> that's already built in for negotiating will generally take care of that;
> the dealers just get less flexible on how much they'll be talked down.
> And because prices are stable, not only do they not need to do much to
> the sticker price, but there is also not that much precedent for it.
> Automakers will adjust the sticker price by $500 or even $1000 sometimes
> during the course of a model-year, but not much more than that.
>
> The net result, I think, is that the demand went up but the prices stayed
> the same. And since the demand went up, the actual selling price rose.
> And since the demand went up spectacularly (by auto industry standards),
> the actual selling price rose to the point where it actually matched the
> sticker price. And when the sticker price is the actual selling price,
> you sell out of the cars. And if you're the auto industry, apparently
> you don't respond by raising the sticker price. You just let the cars
> get back-ordered. (And maybe you have reasons for doing this, like that
> the volume of orders is low and you stand to lose more in public relations
> than you gain in profits by raising the prices.)
>
> So what that amounts to is that the sticker price didn't budge (much?),
> and the prices on new hybrid cars became artificially low.
>
> But the same did not happen with used hybrid vehicles. The prices there
> weren't set by automakers but by individual used car lots. So they were
> free to set the price how they wanted. So the prices were not artificially
> low on used vehicles.
>
> So basically, the point is this: if prices are artificially low on new
> vehicles but aren't artificially low on used ones, then maybe it DOES make
> sense to buy a new vehicle.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:19 pm
From: timeOday

It's not just hybrids that keep their value, either.
When I was looking at minivans, a 1-2 year old Honda or Toyota with up
to 25K miles cost virtually as much used as new.

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TOPIC: Free Power Mall
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:32 pm
From: tate.fred@gmail.com

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TOPIC: ONLINE SCIENCE AND MATH TEXTBOOKS
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:52 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

http://spot.colorado.edu/~dubin/bookmarks/b/1240.html

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TOPIC: Fortune tiring of bailouts
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:57 pm
From: timeOday

"The reckless are getting relief from Bernanke while the prudent are
paying the price, argues Fortune's Allan Sloan."

I feel this is true. Our economic policy seems centered around
promoting inflation for stocks and housing, thus transferring wealth
from those who work to create it, into the pockets of those who "earn"
money by already having it.

<http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/28/news/economy/sloan_bernanke.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes>

"If you look at the financial markets' overall reaction to the Fed move
- not at just the stock market's reaction - you realize that as a result
of the cut, those of us who keep score in dollars and didn't need to be
bailed out are less wealthy than we were in terms of anything other than
our home currency.

Why? Because the rate cut contributed heavily to the dollar's recent
sharp drop in the currency markets - parity with the Canadian dollar,
for God's sake! - and to the price spike in hard assets like gold,
silver, copper, and oil. So our wealth, relative to these other things,
has diminished.

And wait, there's more. Even though the Fed has cut short-term rates,
long-term rates, which it doesn't control, have risen in reaction to the
cut. So whatever economic benefits may flow from lower shortterm rates
will be partly offset by the rise in long rates, which are at least as
important to the economy as short rates.

Finally, consider this. Even though Bernanke's cut may mean that some
junk mortgages will reset at lower rates, the cost of large,
high-quality fixed-rate mortgages, which are tied to long rates, will be
higher than they'd otherwise be. (Yeah, penalize the people who are
prudent - way to go!)"

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 1:45 pm
From: amsmith85@gmail.com

On Sep 29, 2:57 pm, timeOday <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:
> "The reckless are getting relief from Bernanke while the prudent are
> paying the price, argues Fortune's Allan Sloan."
>
> I feel this is true. Our economic policy seems centered around
> promoting inflation for stocks and housing, thus transferring wealth
> from those who work to create it, into the pockets of those who "earn"
> money by already having it.
>
> <http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/28/news/economy/sloan_bernanke.fortune/i...>
>
> "If you look at the financial markets' overall reaction to the Fed move
> - not at just the stock market's reaction - you realize that as a result
> of the cut, those of us who keep score in dollars and didn't need to be
> bailed out are less wealthy than we were in terms of anything other than
> our home currency.
>
> Why? Because the rate cut contributed heavily to the dollar's recent
> sharp drop in the currency markets - parity with the Canadian dollar,
> for God's sake! - and to the price spike in hard assets like gold,
> silver, copper, and oil. So our wealth, relative to these other things,
> has diminished.
>
> And wait, there's more. Even though the Fed has cut short-term rates,
> long-term rates, which it doesn't control, have risen in reaction to the
> cut. So whatever economic benefits may flow from lower shortterm rates
> will be partly offset by the rise in long rates, which are at least as
> important to the economy as short rates.
>
> Finally, consider this. Even though Bernanke's cut may mean that some
> junk mortgages will reset at lower rates, the cost of large,
> high-quality fixed-rate mortgages, which are tied to long rates, will be
> higher than they'd otherwise be. (Yeah, penalize the people who are
> prudent - way to go!)"

I hear ya, but I'm sure Bernanke took all of that into consideration
when making the rate cut. Even all of that being true, it's probably
better than the alternative which is recession and lots and lots and i
mean lots of extra houses. Lots of people are living above their
means in order to achieve some kind of "American Dream" scenario. In
reality, they are destroying it.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 1:52 pm
From: "345ddd"

timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

> "The reckless are getting relief from Bernanke while the
> prudent are paying the price, argues Fortune's Allan Sloan."

> I feel this is true.

Yes, but the alternative is to let the fools that were reckless
suffer the consequences of their recklessness and wear the
damage to the economy that that would produce in the process.

> Our economic policy seems centered around
> promoting inflation for stocks and housing,

Nope, the effect of the low interest rates is largely an
undesirable consequence, not a deliberately intended outcome.

> thus transferring wealth from those who work to create it, into
> the pockets of those who "earn" money by already having it.

Yes, but just as welfare rewards the improvident at a real cost
to those who make their own provision for their retirement, that
sort of result is essentially unavoidable and is basically the
inevitable result of interest rates being a very crude way to adjust
the economy. The problem is that there is no real alternative.

Its an approach which has ensured that we havent seen another
great depression in what is getting on for a full century now.
There were lots of them in the century before the last one.

> <http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/28/news/economy/sloan_bernanke.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes>

> "If you look at the financial markets' overall reaction to the Fed
> move - not at just the stock market's reaction - you realize that
> as a result of the cut, those of us who keep score in dollars and
> didn't need to be bailed out are less wealthy than we were in
> terms of anything other than our home currency.

Sure, but if the economy had been allowed to collapse
instead, those would be much less wealthy again.

> Why? Because the rate cut contributed heavily to the
> dollar's recent sharp drop in the currency markets -

Something which doesnt have much real effect on the wealth of most.

> parity with the Canadian dollar, for God's sake! - and to the
> price spike in hard assets like gold, silver, copper, and oil.

Those arent mostly the result of the fed move, they are mostly
the result of it becoming clear that the economy wont collapse.

> So our wealth, relative to these other things, has diminished.

Which again isnt really that significant for most people.

The economy collapsing would have had a MUCH more dramatic effect.

> And wait, there's more. Even though the Fed has cut short-term rates,
> long-term rates, which it doesn't control, have risen in reaction to the cut.

Thats happened before too.

> So whatever economic benefits may flow from lower shortterm
> rates will be partly offset by the rise in long rates, which are at
> least as important to the economy as short rates.

Sure, but a collapse of the economy would have a much worse effect.

> Finally, consider this. Even though Bernanke's cut may mean
> that some junk mortgages will reset at lower rates, the cost
> of large, high-quality fixed-rate mortgages, which are tied to
> long rates, will be higher than they'd otherwise be.

Again, that only affects those with variable rates.

And if the economy was allowed to collapse, and they lose their jobs instead, that
would have a MUCH more dramatic effect on their personal financial circumstances.

> (Yeah, penalize the people who are prudent - way to go!)"

The problem is that there isnt any viable alternative.

What should have happened was that Greenspan should have seen the problem with
non prime mortage securitization and didnt until it was too late to do anything about it.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 1:46 pm
From: milis69@gmail.com

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 1:52 pm
From: milis69@gmail.com

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 2:00 pm
From: milis69@gmail.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 2:08 pm
From: n3hl7oyf

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 2:51 pm
From: "m.k.h666@gmail.com"

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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: LEGITIMATE AND PAYPAL APPROVED
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 4:20 pm
From: wasylbrytan

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 4:23 pm
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 4:24 pm
From: wasylbrytan

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TOPIC: Free Piano Sheet Music & Audio Files
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/897d814d4b331662?hl=en
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 6:31 pm
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"

Play familiar tunes arranged especially for beginners with our free piano
sheet music & MIDI audio files. No fees, no memberships, no passwords.

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