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TOPIC: "10 things you should never buy used"
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 12:25 am
From: "Don K"

"Rick" <rickajho@rcn.com> wrote in message news:46DA1732.1A9200C@rcn.com...
> throwitout wrote:

> First three years of ownership? They are pretty much technology obsolete
> after two years.

Obsolete?
Sometimes you have to recognize when good enough is good enough.

At work, our laptops are on a 2-year lease. That means every two years,
I waste a week or more trying to locate and reload all the non-standard
software I use, and then hope I can get it all to work again.

And what does having the latest technology buy me?
A bigger, heavier laptop, with a wide screen that makes circles look
like eggs.

A different operating system.
Now some of my old software doesn't work anymore.
Now every few days when I boot up, the operating system shuts itself
down "to protect" itself.

I'd gladly swap my new laptop back for the obsolete one.
At least everything worked right on the obsolete computer.

Don

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 8:57 am
From: Dennis

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:25:20 -0400, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com>
wrote:

>At work, our laptops are on a 2-year lease. That means every two years,
>I waste a week or more trying to locate and reload all the non-standard
>software I use, and then hope I can get it all to work again.
>
>And what does having the latest technology buy me?
> A bigger, heavier laptop, with a wide screen that makes circles look
>like eggs.
>
>A different operating system.
>Now some of my old software doesn't work anymore.
>Now every few days when I boot up, the operating system shuts itself
>down "to protect" itself.
>
>I'd gladly swap my new laptop back for the obsolete one.
>At least everything worked right on the obsolete computer.

Better get used to it. MS has announced it will quit selling XP
licenses after Jan 2008. Get 'em while you can!

Dennis (evil)
--
I'm a hands-on, footloose, knee-jerk head case. -George Carlin

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 10:57 am
From: Rick

Don K wrote:
>
> "Rick" <rickajho@rcn.com> wrote in message news:46DA1732.1A9200C@rcn.com...
> > throwitout wrote:
>
> > First three years of ownership? They are pretty much technology obsolete
> > after two years.
>
> Obsolete?
> Sometimes you have to recognize when good enough is good enough.
>
> At work, our laptops are on a 2-year lease. That means every two years,
> I waste a week or more trying to locate and reload all the non-standard
> software I use, and then hope I can get it all to work again.
>
> And what does having the latest technology buy me?
> A bigger, heavier laptop, with a wide screen that makes circles look
> like eggs.
>
> A different operating system.
> Now some of my old software doesn't work anymore.
> Now every few days when I boot up, the operating system shuts itself
> down "to protect" itself.
>
> I'd gladly swap my new laptop back for the obsolete one.
> At least everything worked right on the obsolete computer.
>
> Don

I didn't make a case about that one way or the other. I agree with you
on the "frugal" level - you get nothing much more than bells and
whistles, and little if none at all increase in practical functionality
under forced obsolescence courtesy of Mr. Bill and M$. But when you
reach the level of "Mr. Bill no longer supports this operating system"
and the new operating system requirements are beyond the hardware of the
existing lap top, you don't have much choice in the matter. You also run
into, from the hardware side, "We will not be producing hardware driver
updates for Mr. Bill's new operating system for your lap top."
Translates: "Why would we do that? There's no money in it - go buy a new
computer."

You either continue using the old lap top until you hit a functionality
wall when "X" just won't work with the existing hardware and old
operating system. And/or you are forced into a purchase you would rather
not make. One way or the other, as long as M$ domination continues to
exist, and planned operating system obsolescence carries on, the forced
hardware and software upgrades largely go unchecked. That was the only
point I was making about a lap top being largely obsolete after two
years. Given the choice, only geeks and lemmings drool over any new
release from M$, just because they are geeks and lemmings.

Rick

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TOPIC: a problem
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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 2:09 am
From: box0box@googlemail.com

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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 2:57 am
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TOPIC: Frugal living in the Philadelphia region
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 4:21 am
From: Ward Abbott

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:37:03 -0400, "BeastFish" <no@spam.com> wrote:

>Don't enter an airport restroom occupied by Senator Craig?

Does a neon sign light UP...ExSenator Craig ocupado

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TOPIC: The Truth
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 6:06 am
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TOPIC: Do men really want a wife like June Cleaver.
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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 6:16 am
From: "Bill"

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TOPIC: Blogger arrested at Circuit City for not showing his receipt, then his
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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 8:04 am
From: useful_infos@yahoo.com

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TOPIC: ot: political humor
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 10:34 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"free" <@free.nat> wrote in message news:FwoCi.120$kr7.30@newsfe04.lga...
> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
>> Denver, Colorado Agenda for the 2008 Democratic National Convention
>>
>> 7:00 pm Opening flag burning
>> 7:15 pm Pledge of Allegiance to the U.N. in Spanish
>> 7:20 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>> 7:25 pm Nonreligious prayer and worship with Jessie Jackson &
>> Al Sharpton
>> 7:45 pm Ceremonial tree hugging
>> 7:55 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>> 8:00 pm "How I Invented the Internet" - Al Gore
>> 8:35 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>> 8:40 pm Our Troops are War Criminals - John Kerry
>> 9:00 pm Saddam Memorial Rally - Cindy Sheehan and Susan
>> Sarandon
>> 11:00 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>> 11:05 pm Collection for the Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant
>> fund - Barbara Streisand
>> 11:15 pm Free the Freedom Fighters from Guantanamo Bay - Sean
>> Penn
>> 11:30 pm Oval Office Affairs - William Jefferson Clinton
>> 11:45 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>> 11:50 pm How George Bush Brought Down the World Trade Towers -
>> Howard Dean & Rosie O'Donnell
>> 12:15 am "Truth in Broadcasting Award" - Presented to Dan
>> Rather by Michael Moore
>> 12:25 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>> 12:30 am Satellite address by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
>> 12:45 am Nomination of Hilary Rodham Clinton by Nancy Pelosi
>> 12:43 am Speech & Toast by Hugo Chavez to the departure of "the
>> Great Satan", G.W. Bush
>> 12:50 am Hillary proposes a toast to our 89 million new
>> Democratic Mexican voters
>> 1:00 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast to the extinction of the
>> Republican Party
>> 1:05 am Coronation of Hilary Rodham Clinton
>> 1:30 am Ted Kennedy Proposes a toast
>> 1:35 am Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hilary home
>>
>>
> You evidently haven't been keeping up with events. This reads like what is
> currently happening with a different cast.
> Neither side responds o or represents Americans unless you come bearing
> large gifts or promises. Only Globalists appear to have the largess
> necessary.

correct. i'm a registered nonpartisan. so, you're saying that teddy
kennedy wouldn't be proposing all those toasts? :)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 1:30 pm
From: "Bob F"

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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2007 10:43 am
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