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Today's topics:
* Home safe odors - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1b82176d55c73873?hl=en
* Gone to the Dogs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6032107109473599?hl=en
* AT&T Modem Rebate - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/012562f812078897?hl=en
* looking for career change advice - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c907241b6575fbc4?hl=en
* What's the going rate for magazine freelance writing? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b4a776b41e326142?hl=en
* Frugal air travel tips - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f74cce039262a897?hl=en
* Payday Advance Help Financial Emergency - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/98807272715767de?hl=en
* How Marketing Manipulates You - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2d9db3821c2b5972?hl=en
* This group is dying from spam. - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e13559a60a40f78d?hl=en
* Cheap perosnla checks to order? - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ca197d343a4a408?hl=en
* Need cheap SATA power & data cables - 1 messages, 1 author
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* nike cheap sell wholesale shoes jordan shox air max force one gucci prada -
1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Home safe odors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1b82176d55c73873?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 1:54 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools
On Sep 30, 1:59 pm, Marsha <m...@xeb.net> wrote:
> The contents of my small home safe feel slightly damp
> and they smell odd. Does anyone have any suggestions
> on solving this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Marsha/Ohio
The suggestions you are getting are good ones.
You need some kind of dessicant to control moisture.
A small safe like the one you have is likely a fire safe...and it has
gypsum in its walls that has water chemically locked in it that will
protect the contents if a fire would occur. It is natural for the
interior of the safe to be at a somewhat higher humidity than the
outside.
TMT
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 4:12 pm
From: Beeblebrox
Wooly wrote:
> Marsha wrote:
>
>> josh@phred.org wrote:
>>
>>> In article <fdorrk$jv2$2@news.datemas.de>, mas@xeb.net says...
>>>
>>>> The contents of my small home safe feel slightly damp and they smell
>>>> odd. Does anyone have any suggestions on solving this problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Crystals" type cat litter is silica gel, the same stuff sold in
>>> overpriced little packets for drying things. Buy a 4lb jar of it,
>>> pour it into a dry cloth bag (or a clean pillowcase) and put it in
>>> the safe.
>>>
>>> Bake it in the oven overnight to dry it out occasionally.
>>>
>>
>> You're serious...this would work?
>>
>> Marsha/Ohio
>>
>
>
> Yes, it works, and it's cheaper than buying the little packets.
BUT - does it have the repeated reminder not to eat it?
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 5:54 pm
From: Wooly
Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> BUT - does it have the repeated reminder not to eat it?
In fine print, on every granule.
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TOPIC: Gone to the Dogs
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6032107109473599?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:01 pm
From: Anthony Matonak
Melissa wrote:
> "Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
...
>> You probably aren't reading the newsgroup off a server in Nigeria
>> or China. Your local ISP could be much more aggressive in filtering
>> out messages from known spam countries.
>
> I can't even get our ISP (Time Warner) to filter obvious nasty spam coming
> through the email. Even when sent headers etc. they do nothing. I've blocked
> most of the emails, but just haven't taken the time to write all the filters
> for news.
Just because they don't take any responsibility for dealing with
criminals doesn't mean they can't do anything. You, as a lone voice
crying out in the darkness, might not get heard but if you band
together with similarly pissed off people then perhaps they would
do something.
I see no reason why China should be able to damage the Internet in
the United States without our government getting involved. Isn't
one of the reasons you have a government is to help protect you
against threats from other countries?
Anthony
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TOPIC: AT&T Modem Rebate
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/012562f812078897?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 2:22 pm
From: E Z Peaces
larry wrote:
> E Z Peaces wrote:
>
>> The AG forwarded my complaint to the phone company, giving them ten days
> > to reply. That was nearly a month ago. No reply.
>
> att (etal) don't reply to complaints, even those from the fcc.
>
> It's much cheaper for them to just pay the fines.
>
> The customer pays those as a cost of doing business ;-)
>
> -larry / dallas
Well, I dialed the number whaa_hoo provided. The URL whaa_hoo provided
says my rebate has been approved and will be mailed about October 12.
Today an AT&T representative phoned to respond to my August letter to
the Attorney General. She said I didn't qualify because it's limited
customers who already had Bellsouth dialup service.
I said the phrase in their Terms and Conditions, "subscribers of AT&T or
BellSouth Dial service," has meant telephone customers for a hundred
years. I said a service accessed by a telephone line, such as internet
access, is a dial-up.
She said I was wrong. Telephone service is not "dial service." She
said she'd never heard telephone service called anything but POTS. Then
she said as a special one-time courtesy my next bill would be credited
with the rebate.
Patents may be the best place to check terminology because patent
lawyers are supposed to get it right. From 1879 to 2007, 579 patents
have called telephone customers subscribers. From 1941 to 2004, 67
patents have called telephone customers "dial service subscribers."
(Perhaps before 1941 telephone service would also accommodate phones
without dials.)
I've found 162 patents calling internet service "dial-up service" and
none calling it "dial service." I've found patents referring to
telephone subscribers with internet access and customers who use the
internet to access subscribed content, but I haven't found any patents
about subscribers to internet access.
That makes sense as a subscriber signs up for published content, not
communications. Telephone customers would be exceptions because the
service includes a subscription to a phone book.
It seems to me the AT&T representative told me I was excluded from the
rebate because they interpret their Terms and Conditions according to
their slang, which may change from day to day, and not the established
meanings of "subscribers" and "dial service."
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TOPIC: looking for career change advice
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c907241b6575fbc4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 2:27 pm
From: Rick
George wrote:
>
> Don K wrote:
> > "Joseph O'Brien" <obrien1984@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1191244545.649604.241670@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> As I see it, I have a few options.
> >
> >> 1) Tell them I'm taking some classes that will meet in the morning,
> >> twice a week for 6 weeks, and ask off for those times. Don't mention
> >> nursing school or quitting or anything. If they ask, just say I'm
> >> taking some "natural science" classes to further my education. In the
> >> spring, come clean and tell them I will be returning to school full
> >> time.
> >
> > Don't give too much notice.
> >
> > There was a guy at work who thought he was being a nice guy
> > by giving extra notice that he would be leaving in a couple of months.
> >
> > Management said no you're not, next Friday will be your last day.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> I have seen that in action with typical megacorp thinking (its only our
> way or our way). I worked with a guy who announced that he was going to
> work for another company that was not a competitor and that he would
> stay on for a couple weeks to insure an orderly transition of his
> projects. They called security and had him escorted out of the building.
Happened to me - I was asked to turn in my keys and leave immediately.
NEVER give an employer any indication you intend to leave a position, no
matter how good you think your intentions may be. You'd be surprised at
which bosses - who you think you know - will screw you in a split
second.
Rick
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:25 pm
From: me@privacy.net
>Happened to me - I was asked to turn in my keys and leave immediately.
>NEVER give an employer any indication you intend to leave a position, no
>matter how good you think your intentions may be. You'd be surprised at
>which bosses - who you think you know - will screw you in a split
>second.
I agree VERY strongly as well
It happened to me also
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TOPIC: What's the going rate for magazine freelance writing?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 2:45 pm
From: Al Bundy
OhioGuy wrote:
> Just curious - does anyone know the going rate these days for doing
> freelance writing for magazines?
>
> However, I have no idea what a fair rate is these days. I don't want to
> hold out for too much, and lose work, but I also don't want to be getting
> less than the other folks. I'd like to put most of what I make into my ROTH
> IRA, which is sorely underfunded at this point.
>
Good point. Don't hold out for too much.
Try selling the thread you started about thinking you would find a
free refill for the garage sale fire extinguisher and how the fire
department laughed at you. I think your writing could have potential
as long as you "keep it real" and talk about your own life honestly.
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TOPIC: Frugal air travel tips
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f74cce039262a897?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:19 pm
From: "Don K"
"PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3n45g3ptmcb0ngj97g48ktj87mih5h8df9@4ax.com...
>
> I always pick an aisle seat so that I can stretch my legs and one
> elbow space doesn't have to be restricted by the next passenger. The
> seat row by the emergency exit is even better as it has more leg room.
> I also prefer the aisle seat on the right row of seats as I am more
> comfortable leaning my head to the left when I sleep. I bring my own
> pillow and its really wonderful to be able to sleep comfortably on
> long flights or even on airport seats in between a long wait for the
> connecting flight. Having a good thick book I always wanted to read
> helps. I make a quick spin around the waiting area for newspapers
> left behind and they're good for an hour or two reading the local
> news and doing the crosswords.
On long flights I like to take along an MP3 player. Mine has an
FM tuner built-in and sometimes I'll listen to the various stations
you can tune in at 20-30K feet. Also noise-canceling headphones
are nice to get rid of the constant engine drone, whether or not you're
actually listening to anything.
One other thing, when I'm not reading, I find I'm a lot more comfortable
if I wear sunglasses to eliminate all the UV glare at high altitude. Apparently
cataracts are an occupational hazard for pilots.
Don
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:44 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Don K <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
> "PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3n45g3ptmcb0ngj97g48ktj87mih5h8df9@4ax.com...
>>
>> I always pick an aisle seat so that I can stretch my legs and one
>> elbow space doesn't have to be restricted by the next passenger. The
>> seat row by the emergency exit is even better as it has more leg
>> room. I also prefer the aisle seat on the right row of seats as I
>> am more comfortable leaning my head to the left when I sleep. I
>> bring my own pillow and its really wonderful to be able to sleep
>> comfortably on long flights or even on airport seats in between a
>> long wait for the connecting flight. Having a good thick book I
>> always wanted to read helps. I make a quick spin around the waiting
>> area for newspapers left behind and they're good for an hour or two reading the local news and doing the crosswords.
>
> On long flights I like to take along an MP3 player. Mine has an
> FM tuner built-in and sometimes I'll listen to the various stations
> you can tune in at 20-30K feet. Also noise-canceling headphones
> are nice to get rid of the constant engine drone, whether or not
> you're actually listening to anything.
> One other thing, when I'm not reading, I find I'm a lot more comfortable if I wear sunglasses to eliminate all the UV
> glare at high altitude.
That cant get past the windows.
> Apparently cataracts are an occupational hazard for pilots.
Not due to UV getting past the windows it aint.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 4:04 pm
From: George Grapman
Regarding the comments on Newark Airport. The NY Transit/Amtrak
connection is also helpful if your final destination is in Jersey.On my
last trip the cab fare would have been $61 plus round trip toll (about
$5)plus tip. NJ Transit was under $10.
Also Newark airport is much closer to midtown Manhattan than JFK, The
one drawback is if to take a cab between NJ and NY you have to pay
double the meter to cover the fact cabs from one state can not pick up
fares in another state Or, in most cases, from another city in the same
state..
If you do take a cab Newark has a smart system. You tell the
dispatcher your destination and they print out a two part for,. The flat
rate fare is in big numbers as are the words "plus round trip tolls".
You get one copy, the driver the other hence no disputes.
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TOPIC: Payday Advance Help Financial Emergency
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/98807272715767de?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:27 pm
From: DevBasic Marketing Support
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:36 pm
From: George Grapman
DevBasic Marketing Support wrote:
> The Paycheck Today online application is fast and confidential.
> Simply provide us with the required information about yourself,
> your income, and your bank checking account.
>
> Applications are pre-approved in just 30 seconds! Get started.
>
> http://www.illinois.devbasic.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=49
>
Right, I always give checking info to posters from gmail.
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TOPIC: How Marketing Manipulates You
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:32 pm
From: Columbia_University_for_sale
On Sep 30, 8:10 am, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> I think its truthful information. I have been casually looking for a 1~2
> year old replacement car and found the described scenario where there
> was little difference between new and 1~2 year old. I can think of at
> least 3 friends who typically buy 1~2 year old cars who have recently
> bought new because they found the same thing.
So, trying to haggle on a used car price is virtually useless then?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 5:31 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools
On Oct 2, 5:32 pm, Columbia_University_for_sale <kwo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 30, 8:10 am, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think its truthful information. I have been casually looking for a 1~2
> > year old replacement car and found the described scenario where there
> > was little difference between new and 1~2 year old. I can think of at
> > least 3 friends who typically buy 1~2 year old cars who have recently
> > bought new because they found the same thing.
>
> So, trying to haggle on a used car price is virtually useless then?
No..always, always haggle.
It always depends on the car model, the seller and the particular
incident.
Some times companies have so many cars, offer a good pricing for a
short period of time, have a slow mover, transferrable warranties,
etc. that the new price equals or is lower than that of an used price.
Sorry...there is no easy way short of doing your homework each and
every time.
One rule of thumb that does work is that the more people who have had
to profit from the car means a higher price...in other words buying
from a dealer rather from the ORIGINAL owner will cost more...each
needs a bit of the action.
I say ORIGINAL owner because many people buy and sell used cars that
are not their own...they are just "dealers" working around the tax
man.
TMT
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TOPIC: This group is dying from spam.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e13559a60a40f78d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 3:43 pm
From: Duke of Hazard
On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It just keeps getting worse. I wonder why this group gets so much more than
> others?
>
> Bob
I agree, I follow many groups and something weird has taken over this
one. I notice it is often linked from groups.google.com , so maybe
that's where it's starting from. There is too much to report. We need
a moderated group. Anyone know how to create one?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 6:57 pm
From: astrozam@yahoo.ca
On Oct 2, 6:43 pm, Duke of Hazard <squ...@peoriadesignweb.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It just keeps getting worse. I wonder why this group gets so much more than
> > others?
>
> > Bob
>
> I agree, I follow many groups and something weird has taken over this
> one. I notice it is often linked from groups.google.com , so maybe
> that's where it's starting from. There is too much to report. We need
> a moderated group. Anyone know how to create one?
its unfortunate about the spam,check this
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=46453&ctx=sibling
seems limited as to what they will do but its worth a shot.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 7:03 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <3463-47027289-941@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>,
Bob Young <difdrummer@webtv.net> wrote:
>It depends on how you cook the spam. I prefer some barbeque sauce and
>onions and fry it.
A good helping of habanero-based sauce will help cover the taste.
> Not sure if I heard of spam killing anyone though.
Haven't tried Turkey SPAM, have you? Better than Ex-Lax. And I'm not
referring to the flavor...
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?
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TOPIC: Cheap perosnla checks to order?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 4:27 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article <8lq4g3lkmhfkf23ljjp1ulaukh0llfrfb4@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
wrote:
> Anyone have advice on where to order some printed
> checks for my personal checking acct?
>
> My local bank is outrageous on check printing charges.
Do online banking and stop using paper checks. Save a few trees and
postage cost.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 4:41 pm
From: "Gini"
<me@privacy.net> wrote
> Anyone have advice on where to order some printed
> checks for my personal checking acct?
>
> My local bank is outrageous on check printing charges.
==
I cycle through the companies that have cheap new customer rates.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 5:05 pm
From: larry
Gini wrote:
> <me@privacy.net> wrote
>
>>Anyone have advice on where to order some printed
>>checks for my personal checking acct?
>>
>>My local bank is outrageous on check printing charges.
>
> ==
> I cycle through the companies that have cheap new customer rates.
>
>
Or find a bank with free checking, that gives you the checks
for free. (Washington Mutual is my fav)
-larry /dallas
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 5:29 pm
From: RivahCat
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:59:21 -0500, a day that will live in infamy,
stood on a soapbox and proclaimed:
:Anyone have advice on where to order some printed
:checks for my personal checking acct?
:
:My local bank is outrageous on check printing charges.
:
ORDER?!? Try printing your own!!
There are several very good check-printing programs out there, most
notably VersaCheck, which offers both personal and business check
printing. I've used it (and another, lower-priced one) for years, and
never had a check refused or not go thru.
Legally, tho, you can write a check on a table napkin with a crayon and,
if your bank will accept it, it is legal tender.
Of course, I live by my debit card and online banking with bill paying.
The only check I write much any more is for my rent, which I HAND-
DELIVER to be sure they get it on time and can't claim otherwise.
--
RivahCat >^..^<
"IN BAST WE TRUST"
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 6:59 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <8lq4g3lkmhfkf23ljjp1ulaukh0llfrfb4@4ax.com>,
<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>Anyone have advice on where to order some printed
>checks for my personal checking acct?
>My local bank is outrageous on check printing charges.
I use www.checksunlimited.com and have been quite satisfied.
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?
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TOPIC: Need cheap SATA power & data cables
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 5:43 pm
From: Logan Shaw
OhioGuy wrote:
> I need about 10 SATA data cables and 10 SATA power adapter cables. (the
> ones that let you use existing molex power connectors from the PS)
>
> Several of my friends and myself would like to take advantage of some of
> the OEM SATA drive deals we've seen being offered, but we currently don't
> have the data cables or power cables we would need. Obviously, we don't
> want to pay the extra $15 or so that is asked for the retail box version
> that has this, plus software on a disk we also don't want.
>
> I recently upgraded the mboard on one of my Dad's PC's, and the
> motherboard came with a twin pack of these cables - one data, and one power
> adapter cable.
>
> I can't imagine that these should really cost much more than a dollar
> each, but I'm hoping to buy 10 of each for a grand total of $35. That's 20
> pieces, which comes to $1.75 each, including shipping.
You can get all that (10 SATA data cables and 10 molex-to-dual-SATA power
splitter cables) at newegg.com for $48.85 including 3-day shipping. Item
numbers N82E16812104059 and N82E16812119010.
outletpc.com, which I'd never heard of before I saw their ad just now,
seems to be able to do it for $28.78 including shipping. They maybe great
or they may be horrible, who knows.
- Logan
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TOPIC: nike cheap sell wholesale shoes jordan shox air max force one gucci
prada
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 7:54 pm
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