Sunday, October 28, 2007

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* Will Higher Oil Price Hamper Global Economical Growth? No... - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e246a70a7ab81311?hl=en
* USAwholesaler.info - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5adbac9819411c4b?hl=en
* Cool - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4409cec5014df4ce?hl=en
* best sercive!! lowest price!!()wholesale air jordan max dunk LV chanel parda
dior gucci - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d43ee2ebbac3fa33?hl=en
* Chloe Handbags,2007 New Bags,Replica Designer HandBags wholesale in China -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bca201f643ce5c8c?hl=en
* The Government is the whore of Babylon, the Military is the beast she rides -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f1c4bf700996dc25?hl=en
* take shower with less than 5 gallons of water - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d1f08e7c43e4fae5?hl=en
* Frugal living in the Philadelphia region guide - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b387e86ce17c1702?hl=en
* My Frugal Lunch - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b26ee751d0904538?hl=en
* ^*^*^*^ Woman Survives Shipwreck! ^*^*^*^*^ - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/470fd049089a485d?hl=en
* Free Always Thin and Ultra Thin Pads - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/dadd00cc5749ff39?hl=en
* Good AM/FM Radios? - 9 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/232c6e75fb0832c8?hl=en
* The Secret Gold Pays With No Interest - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/155a61840fb7567a?hl=en

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TOPIC: Will Higher Oil Price Hamper Global Economical Growth? No...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e246a70a7ab81311?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 8:36 am
From: clams casino


ujoe8291@yahoo.com wrote:

>Higher oil price will hamper U.S. economical growth, but not global.
>Oil is priced on U.S. dollar, and U.S. dollar is down against ALL
>major and minor currencies including Indian Rupee and Russian Ruble.
>Only U.S. feels the pinch. In every other country, oil price has been
>quite stable over the years, with only perhaps minor inflation
>adjustment. Global economy is working just fine, without U.S.
>
>Reducing Fed interest rate does not help dollar, nor housing market.
>Mortgage rate is based on 30-year T bond, which has been very stable
>over the past 10 years. Short-term interest rate does not affect long-
>term interest rate that much. On the other hand, lowering interest
>rate weakens the U.S. dollar, which helps to increase the commodity
>price (inflation), which negatively affects the economy.
>
>
>
Thank you GW.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 9:13 am
From: tomma


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TOPIC: Cool
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 9:20 am
From: clams casino


Engisghat2srbsn@gmail.com wrote:

>I came across this group while searching for information
>
>


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TOPIC: Chloe Handbags,2007 New Bags,Replica Designer HandBags wholesale in
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 10:32 am
From: "Chloe"


"Jon v Leipzig" <JVL@myday.com> wrote in message
news:47248C9D.6070504@myday.com...
>>
>> Chloe quit spamming this group.
>>
> Must be an old posting. She passed away, according to this:
>
> http://www.chloesgarden.com/chloe.htm

That is so cute. "Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."



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TOPIC: The Government is the whore of Babylon, the Military is the beast she
rides
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 11:03 am
From: Daniel


On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Ted <tedorn44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 27, 11:10 pm, Stuart Jackson <bjackson...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> THE ACLU:
>><snips>

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Whereas, in reality, USA is an **Anti-Christian Government**, so
their "A.C.L.U.", the Anti-Christian Liberal Union, is merely an
arm of their Anti-Christian U.S. Government, the whore of Babylon,
venal judges, greedy lawyers, self-aggrandizing puppet politicians,
all for the worship of mammon, big oil, multinational corporations,
big banks, "harlot", who own and control everything and everyone of
the world. Blood-for-oil, Halliburton, Blackwater, their imperialist
dictatorship riding the CA$H COW, the great beast, the U.S. Military:
Who is like unto the beast, and who will be able to make war with it?

It's all big business. All big money. Behold the prophecy fulfilled:
"...because in the heart of hers she is saying I am sitting a queen,
and a widow not I am, and mourning not I will be seeing". For those
unfamiliar with the Apocalypse, read chapters 17 and 18 especially.

Their "ministry of truth", FOXNEWS, CNN, NYT ad nauseam are beating
the Antichrist administration's war drums, designating the Iranian
Revolutionary Guard a "terrorist organization and proliferator of
weapons of mass destruction." Giving Bush, big corporations, carte
blanche to invade Iran, escalate tensions with Russia, and expand
the middle-east war far beyond Iraq, forcibly dragging Israel and
other nations into the bloody conflagration. It's looking like GW
really does want to start WWIII! And when, not if, the WOB invades
Iran as they're threatening to do, *World War Three* is a foregone
conclusion. And they called Hitler "mad"?! How ironic, the acronym
MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, the _fangs_ of nuclear detente.

Granted, the Iran invasion is merely an expanded dog & pony show
to funnel more trillions of taxpayer dollars into the Halliburton,
Blackwater et al military industry giants burgeoning coffers, but
it is also real World War, and with extremely-deadly consequences,
particularly as they're terrestrially, geographically, ingressing
Cancer, i.e. approaching the Iran-Afghanistan border... Watch Out!

Here are some informative links to help Christians Pray, that the
the Antichrist empire is forced into the great games of Slaughter,
unleashing the plagues foreordained, some nuclear, more biological,
then the incoming seven approximately stadia along its major axis,
all cleansing the temple of the earth, to clear the way for Jesus'
return immediately after with the Dark clouds like the bible says.

Invading Iran should help in this regard. Support their invasion
that disturbs & renovates, resurrecting the spirits of the magoi,
opening the graves, anger the ancient spirits, Parthian & beyond:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dangerous+OR+liberal+OR+atheist+OR+socialist+OR+communist+OR+%22anti-christian%22+OR+%22anti-christ%22+%22aclu%22+-%22aclu.org%22+-%22mediamatters.org%22+-%22atheist.tamu%22+-%22liberalavenger%22+-%22atheism.about%22+-friendlyatheist+-acluprocon+-freeliberal+-atheistview&y=Search&fr=&n=100

http://www.aclj.org


http://www.stoptheaclu.com/


http://www.boycottliberalism.com/


Pray for WWIII. Pray for Armageddon. Pray for the end of the world.
Pray for their American Judas to betray their "In God We Trust" to
be Crucified(!). Pray for the HOUR. Pray for the Great Tribulation...

In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min

http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/


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TOPIC: take shower with less than 5 gallons of water
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 11:36 am
From: Fish

It works for me -- might work for others.

It is important the bathroom temp is not cold, because people tends to
warm their body longer with hot water. Since I take shower daily, I
don't need soap, just shampoo such as the one in Costco (Kirkland
hydrating shampoo)

Wet your whole body, turn off water and clean the mid section first
(the genital area)

Rinse clean with water, turn off water.

Start with the hair with shampoo, then face and work down the whole
body

Rinse with water again, then rinse the bath tub.

Total time: less then 5 minutes, water used: 3-5 gallons

--

I find out if I use soap, I use more more water because I need to
clean the soap out of my body, shampoo is gentle and very easy to wipe
off.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 1:51 pm
From: Anthony Matonak


Fish wrote:
> It works for me -- might work for others.

That's something each person must decide for themselves, with a little
help from anyone downwind. :)

> It is important the bathroom temp is not cold, because people tends to
> warm their body longer with hot water. Since I take shower daily, I
> don't need soap, just shampoo such as the one in Costco (Kirkland
> hydrating shampoo)

It also helps if you don't do physical labor, work or play outside and
live in a cold climate. Some place where it rains a lot is ideal. I've
also found that if you don't use hot water at all, you'll take a much
faster shower. It'll also get your heart racing and wake you up in the
morning. Screaming is optional but highly satisfying.

> Wet your whole body, turn off water and clean the mid section first
> Rinse clean with water, turn off water.
> Start with the hair with shampoo, then face and work down the whole
> body
> Rinse with water again, then rinse the bath tub.
> Total time: less then 5 minutes, water used: 3-5 gallons

Just a note, hair and hard water will slow you down and make you use
more water. The less hair you have, the faster you can wash. It's also
faster if you use a hand-held sprayer with an on-off button and have
really high water pressure.

I've found the more minerals in the water, the more water it takes to
feel clean. I once had to use distilled water in an emergency to wash
and I never felt cleaner in my life.

If you do have very hard water, detergents will wash a little better
than soaps because soap combines chemically with the minerals in the
water. There are detergent bars you can buy that look like soap bars
so you don't have to use shampoo if you don't want to.

Then again, why bother?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_resources
Water use: 84% agricultural and industrial, 15% household (including
landscape irrigation).

You'll save more water by switching to native ground cover and getting
the local farmers to irrigate less than by showering faster.

Anthony


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TOPIC: Frugal living in the Philadelphia region guide
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 12:09 pm
From: Joe


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 12:10 pm
From: Millhaven


On Oct 28, 5:04 am, Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 27, 10:54 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 6:54 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:12:37 -0000, Siskuwihane
>
> > > > <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Oct 27, 4:14 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
> > > > >> I went with the folks to Cosco. They had so many free samples all over
> > > > >> the place it was like being at the buffet. We were going to get lunch
> > > > >> too but we weren't hungry anymore. I think I am going to get my own
> > > > >> Cosco card and just eat there so I don't have to spend so much money
> > > > >> on food. I know other people here do it so lets hear your stories.
> > > > >> Peace.
>
> > > > >"The folks"?
>
> > > > Bill O'Reilly is always talking about keeping "the folks" informed.
> > > > Maybe it was them? Lotsa people, the folks.
> > > > Probably just ma and dad.
>
> > > > --Vic
>
> > > He lived with just his mother, that's why I question it
>
> > I don't live with my my mother, my stepfather, my father, my
> > stepmother, grandparents or any of my former step-parents. Lying
> > dipshit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> She must have wised up and kicked your sorry ass out. Good for her.

Haven't lived with any parent in over a decade. You are just another
one of the lying trolls responsible for the downfall of this once
great group.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 5:36 pm
From: Siskuwihane


On Oct 28, 3:10 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
> On Oct 28, 5:04 am, Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 10:54 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 27, 6:54 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 27, 7:04 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:12:37 -0000, Siskuwihane
>
> > > > > <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Oct 27, 4:14 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> I went with the folks to Cosco. They had so many free samples all over
> > > > > >> the place it was like being at the buffet. We were going to get lunch
> > > > > >> too but we weren't hungry anymore. I think I am going to get my own
> > > > > >> Cosco card and just eat there so I don't have to spend so much money
> > > > > >> on food. I know other people here do it so lets hear your stories.
> > > > > >> Peace.
>
> > > > > >"The folks"?
>
> > > > > Bill O'Reilly is always talking about keeping "the folks" informed.
> > > > > Maybe it was them? Lotsa people, the folks.
> > > > > Probably just ma and dad.
>
> > > > > --Vic
>
> > > > He lived with just his mother, that's why I question it
>
> > > I don't live with my my mother, my stepfather, my father, my
> > > stepmother, grandparents or any of my former step-parents. Lying
> > > dipshit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > She must have wised up and kicked your sorry ass out. Good for her.
>
> Haven't lived with any parent in over a decade. You are just another
> one of the lying trolls responsible for the downfall of this once
> great group.-

Stop projecting.

No one is fooled by your subtle trolling, SS/FMG.



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TOPIC: ^*^*^*^ Woman Survives Shipwreck! ^*^*^*^*^
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 12:16 pm
From: undefined.rubberbandman@gmail.com


http://www.yourseoconsulting.com/blog/2007/10/mark-1038.html A woman
in survives shipwreck off the coast of Liverpool. Amazingly enough
her massive breasts doubled as a flotation device view the live video
and more here http://www.yourseoconsulting.com/blog/


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TOPIC: Free Always Thin and Ultra Thin Pads
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 12:36 pm
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"


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TOPIC: Good AM/FM Radios?
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 2:02 pm
From: jacaranda


I just bought an AM/FM radio (w/ CD player) from Emerson and it was
defective right out of the box...No sound. I've since read that most $100-
or-less radios these days are made in China (as was the Emerson), and that
Chinese radios have quality problems.

Can anyone recommend a good, inexpensive radio/radio brand made in Japan or
that is of reliable quality regardless of origin? I just want something
simple. OK if CD player is included, but the main thing is to have AM/FM.
Thanks.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 2:24 pm
From: clams casino


jacaranda wrote:

>I just bought an AM/FM radio (w/ CD player) from Emerson and it was
>defective right out of the box...No sound. I've since read that most $100-
>or-less radios these days are made in China (as was the Emerson), and that
>Chinese radios have quality problems.
>
>Can anyone recommend a good, inexpensive radio/radio brand made in Japan or
>that is of reliable quality regardless of origin? I just want something
>simple. OK if CD player is included, but the main thing is to have AM/FM.
>Thanks.
>
>

I can't suggest a good brand of radios, but NEVER EVER buy anything made
by Emerson (or Haier for that matter) no matter what the price is. If
handed to you for free, dump it.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 2:27 pm
From: WaterBoy


,
i recommend a Digital tuner vs "dial" tuning;
you stay on the frequency all the time

you might start your search at Amazon.com
i find the the user ratings a good starting guide for brands, etc

waterboy

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 3:14 pm
From: George


jacaranda wrote:
> I just bought an AM/FM radio (w/ CD player) from Emerson and it was
> defective right out of the box...No sound. I've since read that most $100-
> or-less radios these days are made in China (as was the Emerson), and that
> Chinese radios have quality problems.

Emerson is just a junk line made to sell in big box stores. I doubt they
have made anything of reasonable quality in decades.


>
> Can anyone recommend a good, inexpensive radio/radio brand made in Japan or
> that is of reliable quality regardless of origin? I just want something
> simple. OK if CD player is included, but the main thing is to have AM/FM.
> Thanks.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 4:46 pm
From: sno


jacaranda wrote:
>
> I just bought an AM/FM radio (w/ CD player) from Emerson and it was
> defective right out of the box...No sound. I've since read that most $100-
> or-less radios these days are made in China (as was the Emerson), and that
> Chinese radios have quality problems.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good, inexpensive radio/radio brand made in Japan or
> that is of reliable quality regardless of origin? I just want something
> simple. OK if CD player is included, but the main thing is to have AM/FM.
> Thanks.

HAM's seem to like the GE Super radio....

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze20h45/radio/superadio/gesr_faq.html

I have one and have been happy with it....

hope helps...have fun.....sno

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== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 6:01 pm
From: "Tockk"

"jacaranda" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99D790E0987AChjotkppe3ojpjpjretur@204.153.245.131...
>I just bought an AM/FM radio (w/ CD player) from Emerson and it was
> defective right out of the box...No sound. I've since read that most
> $100-
> or-less radios these days are made in China (as was the Emerson), and that
> Chinese radios have quality problems.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good, inexpensive radio/radio brand made in Japan
> or
> that is of reliable quality regardless of origin? I just want something
> simple. OK if CD player is included, but the main thing is to have AM/FM.
> Thanks.


I've had good luck with my Sony radios. One's a little pocket thing that
you gotta put an earphone in, and the other is a smallish boombox thing with
a cd player.


== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 6:45 pm
From: jacaranda


sno wrote:

> HAM's seem to like the GE Super radio....
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze20h45/radio/superadio/gesr_faq.html
>

Looks like a good one, thanks.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 6:48 pm
From: jacaranda


Tockk wrote:

> I've had good luck with my Sony radios. One's a little pocket thing
> that you gotta put an earphone in, and the other is a smallish boombox
> thing with a cd player.
>

Good to know Sony's still good. I have a walkman from way back when that
still works.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 7:35 pm
From: George Grapman


Might not be the cheapest but C. Crane has great quality and support.
About 8 years ago I got an AM-Fm-SW radio mainly for travel but is has
become my primary radio at home. One time i has a question and the
person answering the phone owned the model and had an answer.
Also, check out the "orphans" link. Returned products, full warranty.
lower price.

http://www.ccrane.com/


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TOPIC: The Secret Gold Pays With No Interest
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 6:11 pm
From: secret gold


We have Instant $100 dollar bills with no interest. I myself am a
retired legacy and retirement advisor. Advertising $100 bills that
have to be paid back with a high interest rate bothers me. Living from
paycheck to paycheck bothers me. Instead of advertising such things,
let us advertise ways to help people learn how not to do these things.
And in my humble opinion, they will learn. I have been "out there"
working with them 20 years. I have the experience. I know they learn.
And Secret Gold has this to offer. Read my google document
http://doc.google.comPresentation?id=dc365zwb_2fb_mk8v

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 6:18 pm
From: George Grapman


secret gold wrote:
> We have Instant $100 dollar bills with no interest. I myself am a
> retired legacy and retirement advisor. Advertising $100 bills that
> have to be paid back with a high interest rate bothers me. Living from
> paycheck to paycheck bothers me. Instead of advertising such things,
> let us advertise ways to help people learn how not to do these things.
> And in my humble opinion, they will learn. I have been "out there"
> working with them 20 years. I have the experience. I know they learn.
> And Secret Gold has this to offer. Read my google document
> http://doc.google.comPresentation?id=dc365zwb_2fb_mk8v
>


The link appears to be as valid as your offer.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 6:30 pm
From: clams casino


George Grapman wrote:

> secret gold wrote:
>
>> We have Instant $100 dollar bills with no interest. Read my google
>> document
>
>
>
> The link appears to be as valid as your offer.


The link is secret.

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