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Monday, October 8, 2007

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Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 12:08 am
From: bhobho

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browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an
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within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!! So I thought,
"Yeah right, this must be a scam", but like most of us, I was curious,
so I kept reading. Before you get sceptical, just take a few minutes
to finish reading this.

WITH THIS PLAN, YOU REALLY CAN MAKE TONS OF TOTALLY LEGAL,
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CAREFULLY FOR IT TO WORK CORRECTLY AND IN YOUR FAVOR!!!! WITH ALL
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Here's how it works. All you do is send $1.00 to each of the 6 names
and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and
address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at
least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands.) No catch, that was it. So
after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought
about trying it. I figured, what have I got to lose except 6 stamps
and $6.00, right? Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a
little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out
with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it
is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well,
GUESS WHAT!!... Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail!
I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept
coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the
second week I had made a total of over $1,000! In the third week I
had over $10,000 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week
and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00, and it's still
coming in rapidly. It's certainly
worth $6.00, and 6 stamps. By the way, I have spent more than that on
the lottery in the last month!! Let me tell you how this works and
most importantly, why it works....also, make sure you print a copy
of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you
need it.
STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on
each piece of paper, "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."
Also, be sure to include your name and address. Now, get 6 U.S. $1.00
bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6
pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope, to
prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes
and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a
piece of paper stating the above phrase,
your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is
creating a service by this. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
#1) Alex Molloy
105 Diapian Bay
Alameda, CA
94502
#2) CINDY MCCLANAHAN
7656 SOMERSET LN.
MANASSAS, VA. 20111
#3) F. Nicole
6775 South WEST
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#4) Anthony Pappion
Sutherland Hall 811E-2
3725 Sutherland Dr.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
#5) L. Lewis
P.O. Box 203
Gambrills, MD 21054
#6) Samson Kombora
2 Windsor Grange Court
Skye
Victoria 3977
Australia
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as
number 6 on the list.
STEP 3:
Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to
original as possible. If you do not live in the U.S. or there is a
foreign address, you must put an international stamp on your
envelopes. Now, post your
amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close
to 24,000 groups in all.) All you need is 200, but remember, the more
you post, the more money you make!
-----DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO ON NEWSGROUP BULLETINS-----
STEP 1: You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and
drag your cursor to the bottom of this letter.
Then select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire
letter into the computers temporary memory. STEP 2: Open a blank
'notepad' or word processor file and place your cursor at the
top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will
paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your
name to the list.
STEP 3: Save your new notepad file as a *.txt file. If you Want to do
your postings in different sittings, you'll always have this file to
go back to. STEP 4: Use your internet provider and search engines to
find various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites,
discussions).
STEP 6: Visit these message boards and post this article as a new
message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste
from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject and this will be the header
that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
particular group. Then click the post message button. You're done with
your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is
jump to different newsgroups and post away. After you get the hang
of it, it will only take about 30 seconds for each posting!!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
MAKE!!---BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**. That's it!. You
will begin receiving money from around the world within days!
You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of
mail you will receive. If you wish to stay
anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postal
service
will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT**
----Now the WHY part----
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #5, and only 5 persons respond to each
of the original 5, that is another $25.00. Then those 25 each make 200
MINIMUM posts with my name at #4, and only 5 replies to each, and I
will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn
around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive
5 replies each, and I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now here
is the fun part. Each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters
with my name at #2, and they each only receive 5 replies that just
made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message
to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1, and if
still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react, I will receive an amazing
$15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When
your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting
in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list,
putting your name at number 6 again. Then start posting again. That's
it! Do you realize that thousands of honest people just like you all
over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles
everyday? So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think
so. People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no on

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 12:57 am
From: Jan Flora

In article <1190108048.538074.92940@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
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> Am I the only one who has noticed that it's gotten kinda expensive?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 4:42 am
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George Grapman wrote:

> John McWilliams wrote:
>
>> George Grapman wrote:
>>
>>> Leon Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:MXeOi.5096$4V6.1254@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>
>>>>> Herb Kauhry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I looked up his voting record. He's missed 20% of the votes
>>>>>> http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/house/vote-missers/

>>>>>> in all.
>>>>>> Eighth worst in the entire house. Truth is, Ron Paul never voted
>>>>>> AT ALL on
>>>>>> 20% of the things he should have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Proclaims his devotion to the market place yet voted against
>>>>> allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could that be because the government has no business being in the
>>>> healthcare business???
>>>>
>>> That is not the point. As long as they are in it why not allow
>>> negotiated prices, it works for the VA
>>> By the way do you also oppose government funding of education?
>>
>>
>> Somewhat.
>>
> Care to tell us how your education was financed. Unless you went to
> private schools that received no government funding and you paid cash
> one can assume the government paid for your education.

You're assuming he's educated.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 7:10 am
From: Allen

George Grapman wrote:
> Leon Baker wrote:
>> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:MXeOi.5096$4V6.1254@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Herb Kauhry wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I looked up his voting record. He's missed 20% of the votes
>>>> http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/house/vote-missers/

>>>> in all.
>>>> Eighth worst in the entire house. Truth is, Ron Paul never voted AT
>>>> ALL on
>>>> 20% of the things he should have.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Proclaims his devotion to the market place yet voted against
>>> allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
>>
>>
>> Could that be because the government has no business being in the
>> healthcare business???
>>
> That is not the point. As long as they are in it why not allow
> negotiated prices, it works for the VA
> By the way do you also oppose government funding of education?
Put simply, if an issue will benefit those on the low end of the food
chain, Ron Paul is against it; if it will hurt that same group, he is
for it. He should re-read the Hippocratic Oath and decide whether to
continue to call himself a physician.
Allen

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 7:44 am
From: clifto

gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> I have no real problem with public funding of education, it is the
> government operation of the schools itself that is the problem

I have no problem with about 5% of education funding. The local high school
is spending $100,000 to put Astroturf on the tennis courts, and I'm searching
behind the couch cushions for change.

--
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 8:26 am
From: Bama Brian

Herb Kauhry wrote:
> Yeah, I looked up his voting record. He's missed 20% of the votes
> http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/house/vote-missers/ in all.
> Eighth worst in the entire house. Truth is, Ron Paul never voted AT ALL on
> 20% of the things he should have.

Anybody ask him why he did not vote on those issues?

--
Cheers,
Bama Brian
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TOPIC: Update on installing kitchen cabinets from China
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e261cfd209cb855?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 7:29 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:52:29 -0400, pc <pc@somewhere.com> wrote:

>Don K wrote:
>> "pc" <pc@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:HU9Oi.1985$aa.461@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>> Free is good. :-) I finally found a filter that I like. The Berkey
>>>> water filter doesn't need to have the elements constantly replaced,
>>>> and can purify just about any water. So Fl water is SO bad with
>>>> organics that my distiller was always getting a cooked seaweed type of
>>>> residue. Up here, all it gets is lime buildup.
>>> We just did a double cartridge filter. The RO took up too much space. The freezer ice
>>> goes through a cartridge in the fridge. So far we are alive and healthy. Water is
>>> increasingly a BIG issue. I miss my cold clear northern well water. The whole city of
>>> West Palm has been on a boil order. They even had the FBI in to investigate. But, they
>>> think now it was a backflow issue from an illegal well. Hmm..
>>
>> We did a timeshare tour in West Palm Beach a few years ago.
>> It struck me that the water down there has a strong taste of diesel fuel
>> or something similar.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>
>Well, I'm further south of West Palm. Thank goodness.
>The water here is nasty compared to VT and NH. But, so far, it's
>drinkable with filtering.
>
>..PC

You can do your own test for basics. Silver Lake Research makes a
home water test kit that is available for about $20. It'll be a
couple days before the bacteria test is finished, but our current well
measures

7.0 Nitrates
.15 Nitrites
6.2 pH
0 Chlorine
.5 ppm Hardness
negative on lead
negative on common pesticides

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TOPIC: collect xX_beatles_rarities & more
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5ab8f640816068d9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 7:37 am
From: Hostel

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TOPIC: Repairing a broken drain line
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cd64115d98e4a3fe?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 7:52 am
From: "Sammy bin Snoozin"

Thanks Dennis.

"DT" <dthompson4389@wowway.com> wrote in message news:J9adna8UlarJ2ZTanZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
>
> >One thing someone could give an opinion on - the slope from the inside =
> >connection point to the existing clean-out is about 4-inches for a 20-ft =
> >length of drain pipe. Is this enough for a straight run?
>
>
> It's in the ball park, 1/4" drop per foot is standard, which would be 5" for 20
> feet. I believe if the pipe is 4" or larger the slope can be less.
>
> --
> Dennis
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 8:07 am
From: "Sammy bin Snoozin"

Yes, it's 4-in. Thanks for the info.

"DanG" <dgriff23@7cox.net> wrote in message news:LBcOi.2303$054.1029@newsfe14.phx...
> I assume you have a 4" main. Your pipe should not exceed 1/4 per
> foot, especially if you have low flush toilets. That amounts to
> 5" per 20' joint. The low flush toilets make 1/8 per foot
> actually a better choice which would be 2 1/2" per joint. Your 4"
> will be right on target.
>
> The 135 feet of run should have between 17 and 34".
>
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> dgriff237@7cox.net
>
>
>
> "||| | ||||| || | ||" <enamoradodemucho@moradodebuscar.com> wrote
> in message news:feb6ag$5h9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >
> > "Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in
> > message news:Hz6Oi.3589$44.3299@trnddc04...
> > I got 3 quotes on the repair -- all are replacing the drain from
> > inside the building to the clean-out connection, about 20 feet
> > point to point. I'm going to get one more for bypassing the
> > slab.
> >
> > $3000 - Rotorooter, includes tearing up concrete slab
> > end-to-end, replacing straight run, re-pouring concrete slab and
> > finishing
> >
> > $2400 - Indept plumber, same as above
> >
> > que significa "indept"? No es en mi diccionario. Significa
> > "independent"? O inept?
> >
> > $1400 - Indept plumber, same except going out 45 degrees thru
> > wall, bypassing concrete slab, angling back 135 degrees instead
> > of 90 degrees and connecting to existing line, installing new
> > clean-out downstream from existing clean-out.
> >
> > Just hire a Mexican, dude.
> >
> > (Posted sketch of 3rd way at alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking)
> > The last one makes more sense to me since everything will now be
> > accessible, not being under concrete.
> >
> >
> > One thing someone could give an opinion on - the slope from the
> > inside connection point to the existing clean-out is about
> > 4-inches for a 20-ft length of drain pipe. Is this enough for a
> > straight run? How about if we do the 135 run, with three
> > 135-deg turns.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
>
>
>

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TOPIC: Installing drain pipe for rain run-off
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/91fbb0eb10110c68?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 8:10 am
From: "Sammy bin Snoozin"

I've got to install a drain pipe from a low spot to the street gutter - about 100 feet. Is there a formula to figure the maximum flowrate that a 4-in pipe will carry using the 1/4 per foot slope assuming the inlet is full?

Sam

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TOPIC: LCD power consumption
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b7795a2be395a19a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 8:47 am
From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)

Jeff (dont_bug_me@all.uk) writes:
> I was thinking of going LCD here for my monitor and television and
> saving some space and some watts.
>
> It looks to me that LCD monitors take about a third the power of
> their CRT equivalents. Curiously an LCD television might be use more
> power than it's CRT cousin.
>
> <URL: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html?tag=nav />
>
> That seems crazy to me. Is it the faster refresh rates on the monitors
> causing that?
>
> On another note, anyone have a monitor/tv combo? What's it take to
> get televison on a monitor? How about those TV tuner cards? What about
> a digital video (US) or NTSC to DVI converter?
>
> And finally, anyone tried the Staples brand 19" monitor?
>
> I may be a little OT with all these questions but it seems like one
> LCD for TV and computer is damn frugal!
>
But this is a classic example of the state of this newsgroup.

You've come to a newsgroup about being frugal, yet you expect
people to be able to answer questins that have no relevance
to frugality.

I might as well post "I need some 2N706's but I want to be frugal
so I want to know the cheapest place to get them, so obviously
this fits in a frugal newsgroup".

The only way anyone would know what that's about is if they have
other interests. It's not a frugal question, it belongs elsewhere.

Your questions are technical, and belong elsewhere. At the very
least, they are a consumer issue, not a frugal issue.

Michael

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