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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 7:43 pm
From: Jeff

Anyone tried LED tracklighting? I was looking at some bulbs that
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<URL: http://www.besthomeledlighting.com/product/MR16-12-GU5.3-S-21-W />

Seems like a plan, but LED lighting can be blueish...

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 7:55 pm
From: George Grapman

Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <H%fOi.5108$4V6.4006@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>, George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Care to tell us how your education was financed. Unless you went to
>> private schools that received no government funding and you paid cash
>> one can assume the government paid for your education.
>
> Nonsense. "The government" never paid a dime for his education, or yours, or
> mine, or anyone else's. The *taxpayers* paid for it.
>
> "Government money" is a myth.
>
Fine I will change the question . Did taxpayers finance the education
of this opponent of taxpayer financed health care?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 7:56 pm
From: George Grapman

gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:48:23 GMT, George Grapman
> <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Care to tell us how your education was financed. Unless you went to
>> private schools that received no government funding and you paid cash
>> one can assume the government paid for your education.
>
> In fact I did go to a private school that received no public funding
> and my parents still had to pay school taxes.
> I have no real problem with public funding of education, it is the
> government operation of the schools itself that is the problem

Did you go to college? How was that financed?
>
> Lee County Florida public school system is taxing us $20,000 a student
> (annual budget 1.7 billion) for a school system that still produces
> mediocre results. The best private school in town is cheaper. The main
> problem with the public school system, and education in general in the
> US, is it is run by people who went to school at 4 or 5 years old and
> never left.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 10:20 pm
From: gfretwell@aol.com

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:56:52 GMT, George Grapman
<sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:

> Did you go to college? How was that financed?

I went to a Navy school. I suppose that is government education but I
was giving them 6 years of my life for it.

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TOPIC: LCD power consumption
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 9:04 pm
From: Jeff

I was thinking of going LCD here for my monitor and television and
saving some space and some watts.

It looks to me that LCD monitors take about a third the power of
their CRT equivalents. Curiously an LCD television might be use more
power than it's CRT cousin.

<URL: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html?tag=nav />

That seems crazy to me. Is it the faster refresh rates on the monitors
causing that?

On another note, anyone have a monitor/tv combo? What's it take to
get televison on a monitor? How about those TV tuner cards? What about
a digital video (US) or NTSC to DVI converter?

And finally, anyone tried the Staples brand 19" monitor?

I may be a little OT with all these questions but it seems like one
LCD for TV and computer is damn frugal!

Jeff

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 10:33 pm
From: larry

Jeff wrote:
> I was thinking of going LCD here for my monitor and television and
> saving some space and some watts.
>
> It looks to me that LCD monitors take about a third the power of their
> CRT equivalents. Curiously an LCD television might be use more power
> than it's CRT cousin.
>
> <URL: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html?tag=nav />
>
> That seems crazy to me. Is it the faster refresh rates on the monitors
> causing that?
>
> On another note, anyone have a monitor/tv combo? What's it take to
> get televison on a monitor? How about those TV tuner cards? What about
> a digital video (US) or NTSC to DVI converter?
>
> And finally, anyone tried the Staples brand 19" monitor?
>
> I may be a little OT with all these questions but it seems like one
> LCD for TV and computer is damn frugal!
>
> Jeff

Yes to both issues. I use a 15" LCD for the computer, then
added a $15 TV pci card. The 15" LCD uses 6W, no heat
either, the 15" CRT ran 78 watts and did save heating costs
in the winter ;-) The desktop PC runs around 108 watts. The
CRT TV used 54 watts. So I had a net 126 watts and 440
btu/hr reduction. It adds up over 8-12 hrs a day ;-)

I just bought a 17" LCD but it uses a whopping 25 watts.
Need to pop the cover and find out why its 4 times higher
than the 15". As soon as I find an hdtv usb card (for $25),
I can switch all to the lcd laptop. Sold off all our crt
stuff a year ago.

-- larry / dallas

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 12:23 am
From: Anthony Matonak

Jeff wrote:
> It looks to me that LCD monitors take about a third the power of their
> CRT equivalents. Curiously an LCD television might be use more power
> than it's CRT cousin.
>
> That seems crazy to me. Is it the faster refresh rates on the monitors
> causing that?

Newer models of LCD displays use more powerful backlights and these
require more electricity to generate the extra light. Since an LCD
subtracts light to form the picture, turning the brightness down does
not reduce the amount of power used.

Anthony

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 9:40 pm
From: "YooperBoyka"

"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
news:3M9Oi.39867$RX.25078@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> johnny@. wrote:
>> ||| |||||| || | |||| wrote:
>>> <johnny@.> wrote in message
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>>>> Jim Higgins wrote:
>>>>> || |||| ||| |||||| wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <press 2 to be deported until you learn English>
>>>> I just filter out anyone that posts in Spanish.
>>>
>>> So you lie, too. There isn't any filtering device that knows the
>>> difference between
>>> "asshole" and "culero."
>>>
>>> Supesto que you have software that knows when I'm posting Spanglish,
>>> too, right?
>>>
>>> Buen suerto con eso, cavrón. You replied to my post, so you saw it.
>>>
>>> And you'll see this one, verdadero.
>>>
>>
>> That's because you changed your email address.
>>
>> Any time a see a post in Spanish I create a message filter for the person
>> who sent it, as I will do with this one. I can create a message filter
>> in three clicks, so change your address as much as you want to.
>
> That is the great thing about the First Amendment. They have the right to
> post what they want and you have the right to ignore it.

Fuckin' *sweet*,...bilingual asswipes!
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