Thursday, October 11, 2007

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* I found out why they turned off my power . . . Ugh . . . - 1 messages, 1
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* "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's red .... - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: I found out why they turned off my power . . . Ugh . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/04c146e71535a898?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 10 2007 9:11 pm
From: Meghan Noecker


On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:44:09 GMT, "Tockk" <tock1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Oh ya, I forgot one thing . . .
>
>It seems that here in Texas, they can't turn your power off until they tell
>you, in writing, what they're about to do. Since the post office sent the
>mail back, of course I didn't get their message, and it seems to me that
>they didn't comply with Texas law on that. Could they have? Sure, they
>managed to get the power shut off on the right apartment.
>
>


They can show that they tried to contact you. Can you show that you
tried to pay them? Did you bother to check into why you weren't
receiving bills?

Does that law state anywhere that they must have a signed reciept from
you? How long are they supposed to go without payment. If that law is
strictly enforced, as stated, then people can simply return their mail
unopened and state incorrect address and have free power for years on
end.

You were 3 months behind on your bill. Be happy if they split the
difference with you.


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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's red ....
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 10 2007 9:47 pm
From: Alan Truism


One of my co-workers has decided to stop flushing the urinal in order to
address the problems presented by a local drought.

I'm all for water conservation, but I don't really care to get his piss on
me from urinal splash back. I now have to flush both before and after I pee.

As a result, I have resorted to carrying around a bottle of red
food coloring in my pocket. Whenever I go to the bathroom I drop enough
of the dye in the urinal to make it look like someone filled the bowl
with bloody urine.

I've been doing it for a couple of days now. I am hoping that eventually he
is going to break down and and start flushing, simply for fear of catching
the clap.

I know it is grossing him out because I overheard him mention the bloody
urine to someone in the hall this afternoon. If he doesn't start flushing
soon, however, I am going to have to find some synthetic gleet.

-
Alan Truism

ps. Sometimes it burns when I pee.


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TOPIC: Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 10 2007 9:49 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> On Oct 10, 10:24 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> trad...@optonline.net wrote:
>>> On Oct 10, 1:57 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Thanatos" <atro...@mac.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> news:atropos-F75617.00090210102007@news.giganews.com...
>>
>>>>> In article <470c2a86$0$7506$4c368...@roadrunner.com>,
>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I asked for what someone would suggest we do about the problem.
>>>>>> Do you have a workable plan?
>>
>>>>> Not the point. You're bascially saying, "Yeah, there's a problem
>>>>> but until someone tells me how it can be solved (at which point I
>>>>> will do my damndest to torpedo whatever they come up with),
>>>>> nothing should be done at all."
>>
>>>> I had a boss who told me once, you know every Tom, Dick and Harry
>>>> can tell me about what they see as a problem. It does very little
>>>> good to hear about a problem if they do not have a solution to the
>>>> perceived problem.
>>
>>> Your boss was obviously an idiot. Suppose an employee came to the
>>> boss and said "Every 10th widget that comes off the assembly line
>>> has cracks in it and is going in the scrap pile." According to
>>> the boss, that does very little good because the employee doesn't
>>> have a solution to the problem.
>>
>>> If you
>>>> believe that something is a problem and you have no solution to
>>>> solving the problem, then the problem will never go away....because
>>>> SOMEONE has to come up with a solution.
>>
>>> Regarding the illegal immigration problem, there are obvious
>>> solutions. The only problem is, no one has the political will to
>>> implement them. Primarily because they are all afraid of being
>>> branded as racists, similar to what you see trying to be done in
>>> this thread.
>>
>>> Solutions:
>>
>>> Have guest worker permits that allow foreigners to work here legally
>>> for a limited time. Bush proposed this 5 years ago and it got shot
>>> down by everyone.
>>
>>> Then enforce penalties against employers that hire illegal aliens.
>>> Increase the penalties where appropriate. Once there are no jobs
>>> for illegals, they'll stop coming.
>>
>>> Allow and encourage police at all levels to report illegal aliens
>>> that they encounter.
>>
>>> Deport those that are found
>>
>>> Get working on high tech solutions to manage the border. Surely
>>> with satellites, drone aircraft, sensor on the ground and the like,
>>> we can make it extremely difficult to get across the border. In
>>> fact, this would solve much of our problem in Iraq.
>>
>> Nope, the cost of doing that is unaffordable and you would
>> need FAR more apes in boots than you have there now too.

> Unaffordable?

Yep, unaffordable.

> We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars on Iraq.

That would have to continue too.

> It will be into the trillions before it's over.

That will happen anyway.

> And investing in cheap aircraft like drones,
> as well as some land sensors is too much?

Yep, because that alone wont do a damned thing, you
have to have gorillas in boots with guns to do something
about those who choose to cross those borders.

> Nice that you refer to our men in uniforms as apes.

Thats what they are.

> Really shows a lot about who you are and what your values are.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed fantasys.

> And in the case of Iraq, which is a war zone,
> who says you need men on the ground?

Iraq wont accept the US gunning down anyone who moves across the border from the air.

> Anyone seen trying to cross borders anywhere other
> than authorized checkpoints can be taken out by a
> missle from a drone, an airstrike from a fighter,

And the first time that is a car full of kids/refugees etc, there
goes any hope of ever getting the elected Iraqis to allow that.

> or some lethal automatic weapons on the ground.

The elected Iraqis are already pissed off about goons killing anyone they feel like like that.

> With today's technology, none of that is far fetched.

The problem aint the technology, stupid.

> What's needed is some shift in budget from fighting using conventional
> tactics to alternative means, ie technology to secure borders.

Wont do a damned thing about the fools killing people inside the country.

>>> If you can secure the borders,

>> Have you the remotest concept of how much border Iraq actually has ?

> Have you the remotest idea of how far the moon is? We went there
> and back 3 decades ago. The same technology that did that, gave
> us stealth aircraft, and satellites that can read license plates can
> surely put in place high tech solutions to monitor borders a hell of a
> lot better than it's being done now. The CIA put a missle up the ass
> end of a car in the Sudan from a drone, after actually identifying the
> occupants, didn't they? And Iraq is particulalry easy because it
> ain't a jungle, to get in there you have to cross mostly open desert.

Pity about the elected Iraqis actually allowing the US to kill anyone they like.

>>> then no more explosives and terrorists would be coming in to Iraq

>> Pure fantasy. Even an Iraeli type wall wouldnt achieve that.

>>> and what explosives they have would be used up in short order.

>> Pure fantasy given what happened when Iraq army was shut
>> down and what happened to all the stuff they had at that time.

> If you read the news instead of the funny papers, you;d know that
> most of the deaths being inflicted on US troops are from modern
> shaped charges that cut through vehicle armor, which are coming
> from Iran, not from some left over crap that Sadam had.

And if the borders were made completely secure, they'd just change
over to using what was left after Sadam scuttled off to his rat hole.


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