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TOPIC: Desalinating device---
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Date: Tues, Nov 13 2007 8:13 pm
From: Jeff
John Weiss wrote:
> "Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote...
>
>
>>As far as I know, desalination takes a lot of energy. If you're talking
>>about planning for an emergency, you'd have to store fuel to use in the
>>desalination process. Why not just store an equivalent amount of fresh
>>water?
>
>
> New-tech reverse osmosis desalinators use a LOT less energy than stills. In
> fact, you can get models that you can operate by hand (though they're not
> "family sized" as requested by the OP).
I don't much about this, but did some reading a while back.
There's plusses and minuses to reverse osmosis versus distillation.
Oddly a lot of it depends on ambient temperature as reverse osmosis has
durability problems at higher temps.
At any rate, the correct solution depends on the circumstances.
Jeff
OTOH, one of those for each family
> member will help keep them fit and teach them the value of water in an
> emergency! :-)
>
>
>
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Date: Tues, Nov 13 2007 8:40 pm
From: thegbark
Toxic & Recalled Toys list and link to The U.S. Consumer Product
Safety Commission recall list.
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Date: Tues, Nov 13 2007 10:59 pm
From:
> Yesterday, WorldNetDaily reported that the Chinese are considering
> abandoning the U.S. dollar as their national reserve currency. WND
> quoted Craig Smith's assessment of the consequences of such a move by
> Beijing on our economy: ?If that were to happen, all bets are off, and
> we will be in a depression that makes 1929 look like child's play, or
> we will experience Weimar Republic inflation as the dollar makes
> extreme moves toward devaluations.?
Or an unprecedented surge in U.S. exports as Beijing finally gives up on
artifically inflating the value of the dollar to make Chinese exports
more attractive on world markets?
> The U.S. debt stands at $9 trillion. If my calculator is working, then
> at a dollar a second, the U.S. could be debt- free in the year 290007.
>
> The point of that little exercise was two-fold. The first was to
> clarify the sheer volume of the debt; the second was to demonstrate
> the possibility that anybody in government really believes we can ever
> pay it off.
Why exactly would we try to pay anything off at a dollar a second?
That's a vanishingly small amount of money for an economy as large as
ours. If I were trying to pay off a mortgage of $150,000, I'd come up
with a payment plan, not make a stab in the dark at how many dollars a
minute it would take.
That assumes I was interested in paying off the debt rather than rolling
it over. If I could borrow money as cheaply as the U.S. Treasury has
been able to, it might seem wasteful to pay off the debt just now.
> It also means that unless the average American family of five has a
> net worth of at least $149,737,50 in assets excluding liabilities
> (they don't), America is already bankrupt.
So, by this reasoning, anyone who couldn't cash out their mortgage
tomorrow is bankrupt?
That's a startling new definition of the term.
--
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<http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
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