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TOPIC: Christmas big ritual
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 1:02 am
From: xiaoshifeng027@gmail.com

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TOPIC: sex movies with sexy actress
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 1:56 am
From: fg

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TOPIC: Genuine Way of Earning
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 3:59 am
From: kundan

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TOPIC: Sell iPhone 8GB, Nokia N95 8GB ,Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii, PS3 60GB At
Discounted Prices
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 4:27 am
From: s.dept1@gmail.com

Hello

We are selling at discounted prices for the following items:

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Nokia N73 Music - $140
Nokia N81 8GB- $220
Nokia 8600 Luna- $220

Blackberry 8300 Curve- $220
Blackberry 8100 Pearl - $200
HTC Advantage - $250
Samsung U600 - Slim --$200
LG KE850 Prada - $160

Xbox 360 Elite-$200
Nintendo Wii-$150
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TOPIC: Diabetes
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 4:40 am
From: pohmichael@yahoo.com

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TOPIC: Free Platinum Natural Dog Food
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:03 am
From: "FreebiesPl.us"

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TOPIC: Free Sample of Neru Patch Foot And Leg Discomfort
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:09 am
From: "FreebiesPl.us"

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TOPIC: wholesale sport shoes,clothing,electronics in china www.fashion-sky.com
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:47 am
From: fashion-sky@msn.com

Dear my friend
It is our pleasure to meet you here.
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We are professional and honest wholesaler of all kinds of brand
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1).Nike Jordans
Jordan 1 jordan 1.5 jordan 2 jordan 3 jordan 3.5 jordan 4 jordan 5
jordan 5.5 jordan 6 jordan 6.5 jordan 7 jordan 8 jordan 9 jordan 9.5
jordan 10 jordan 11 jordan 12 jordan 13 jordan 13.5 jordan 14 jordan
15 jordan 16 jordan 17 jordan 18 jordan 18.5 jordan 19 jordan 20
jordan 21 jordan 21.5 jordan 22 jordan King jordan Dub Zero Jordan 23
Jordan 7.5
2).Air Force One Air Force one (low) Air Force one (High) Air Force
one (Mid) Air Force one (clear) Air Force One 25 year
3).SHOX Shox R3 Shox R4 Shox R5 Shox TL1 Shox TL2 Shox TL3 Shox NZ
Shox OZ Shox Turbo Show GO Shox CL Shox Coqnescenti Shox Energia Shox
Explodine Shox Monster Shox Rhythmic Shox Warrior
4).Bape Shoes Bape Bape (transparent)
5).Air max AirMax 90 AirMax 95 AirMax 97 AirMax 2003 AirMax 2004
AirMax 2005 Air Max 2006 AirMax 180 AirMax LTD AirMax TN AirMax solas
AirMax 87 AirMax Rift
6).Puma Puma Rpt2 Puma SK6 Puma Jayfi Puma Cir Puma Speed Puma Repli
Puma Future Cat Puma Mostro Puma Lifestyle
7).Dunk SB Dunk High Dunk Low
8).Timberland Timberland High Timberland Low
9).Adidas Adidas 35 Adicolor Country city sense Adidas NBA
11).Prada & Gucci Prada Gucci
12).Footballer Shoes Footballer
13).Locaste
14).converse & Reebok converse Reebok
15).D&G shoes
16).Dsquared2 shoes
17).James shoes
18).Nike King
9).Children shoes Jordan Shox
20).Women shoes Women Jordans Women Shox R3 Women Shox R4 Women AirMax
95&97 Women AirMax 03&06 Women Dunk Women Shox NZ Women AF1
21).sandal & baboosh Nike Puma Gucci Prada
CLOTHES 1).Bape 2).ED Hardy 3).BBC 4).CLH 5).LRG 6).Artful Dodger
Hoodies 7).GINO GREEN GLOBAL 8).10 Deep 9).A&F Coat 11).Jersey NBA
Jersey Football Jersey 12).Juicy Bikini 13).Adidas Coat 14).F1 Coat
15).D&G Coat 16).Superman Coat 17).NBA Coat
JEAN 1).E&D Jeans 2).BBC Jeans 3).BAPE Jeans 4).D&G Jeans 5).EVSIU
Jeans 6).Red monkey 7).COOGI Jeans
T-shirt 1).POLO 2007 polo(women) 2007 POLO IIII(Men) POLO (stripe)
polo (small )
2).Lacoste Lacoste (LONG) Lacoste (SHORT) 3).Name Brand shirt D&G
Shirt Giorgio Armani TN Shirt 4).BBC T-shirt 5).LRG & gina green
glalal 6).Triumvir 7).ED handy 8).Evsiu 9).R.M.B 10).CLOT
Burse & Handbag 1).LV Bag 2).Gucci Bag 3).Dior Bag 4).Chanel Bag
5).Fendi Bag 6).Coach Bag 7).Burberrys Bag 8).Prada Bag 9).Man Leisure
Bag 11).D&G bag 12).nike bag 13).Wallet 14).Suitcase
Electronics 1).Vertu Mobile 2).New iphone Mobile(apple iphones,apple
iphones,apple iphones,apple iphones) 3).Nokia Mobile(Nokia N95,Nokia
N95 Nokia N95 Nokia N95 Nokia N93,Nokia N70,Nokia N92,Nokia 8800)
4).moto Mobile 5).PSP Game & memory card 6).Sony Mobile 7).Samsung
Mobile 8).Ipod nano 9).Sony PS3 10).Laptops IBM laptops DELL laptops
Sony laptops ASUS laptops
CAP 1).ED Hardy Cap 2).New Bape & NY Cap 3).RMC Cap 4).New era NBA
5).F1 6).Chanel 7).D&G 8).gucci 9).LV 10).Prada 11).PUMA 12).wool
WATCH 1).Rolex 2).Omega 3).Cartier 4).Chanel 5).Piaget 6).Breitling
7).Bvlgari 8).Corum
Sunglasses 1).Gucci Sunglasses 2).D&G Sunglasses 3).Dior Sunglasses
4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter

size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40

Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

7.because the space of the website is limited,we can also supply many
other products which be not showed out in our site. if you have the
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orders.
And our company can supply for our customers ,as follow:
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4.many products in stock. We have many products in stock and kinds of
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Hope sincerely to have glad and long term business relationship with
you.
If you are interested in our products and have any problem, welcome
to
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Please trust us , we will be your best choice !!!
Website : http://www.fashion-sky.com
MSN and E-mail: fashion-sky@hotmail.com
Yahoo ID:mallinchina@yahoo.com.cn
Michael
Fashion Footwear Industrial Co.,Ltd.(Fujian,CHINA)

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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:51 am
From: fashion-sky@msn.com

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:52 am
From: fashion-sky@msn.com

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:54 am
From: fashion-sky@msn.com

Clothing Size:
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TOPIC: Free Orthopedic Magazine: 1-Year Subscription
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:59 am
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"

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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 6:00 am
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"

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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 6:00 am
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TOPIC: Free OR Nurse 2007 Magazine: 1-Year Subscription
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 6:03 am
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"

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TOPIC: Free Nurse Magazine: 1-Year Subscription
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 6:05 am
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"

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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 7:24 am
From: ubumusic@gmail.com

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TOPIC: buy cheap shoes ( www.shoes-ec.com)
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 8:11 am
From: dfdf

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TOPIC: the truth about this "DeserTBob"
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 8:19 am
From: "Dwight D. Eisenhower"

To all who may read this at any future date:

Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood.
"DeserTBob" is an unemployed illegal alien from the West Coast USA.
He was
a
former Bell Systems employee "phone guy" who was fired from his job-
he faked an
injury to get disability- so now he sits home and trolls the
internet,
harassing people- for lack of anything else constructive to do.

"DeserTBob" bought 2 items from "66fourdoor" on Ebay at one time.
One
was an 8-track alignment tape- the other was a VHS movie tape.
"DeserTBob" was unhappy with the items, the seller agreed willingly
to
issue a full refund (still that seller's policy to this day), once
the
items were returned. "DeserTBob"
returned the alignment tape and received a full $40 refund.
"DeserTBob" kept the VHS tape because in reality, there was nothing
wrong with either item- and the movie tape was a rare out of print
NON-
COPYRIGHTED
movie, otherwise unavailable. (it has since been re-released on
DVD). The returned alignment tape was later resold to another buyer
on Ebay, who left positive feedback for it.

"DeserTBob" then left a negative feedback for the seller, even though
he got a full refund- "DesertBob" has continued to harass the seller
and seller's family ever since, for over 3 years now.

This is nothing new to "DeserTBob"- rather, it's way of life for him-
he also purchased (8) tapes from another seller for ONE CENT each,
only to leave the seller 8 negative feedbacks, stating "not worth a
penny".

Eventually a large quantity of complaints started flooding into Ebay,
concerning "DeserTBob" and his auction harassment. Ebay then banned
DeserTBob's Ebay username, which was "VOXPOPPER".

"DeserTBob" then returned to Ebay using a second name, calling
himself
"XCALIBER44"- and started once again harassing various Ebay sellers'
auctions. He was again reported to Ebay, and "XCALIBER44" was also
banned.

These current slanders/libels against Ebay sellers by "DeserTBob" are
completely unfounded- if you check the seller's feedback, you'll find
they have 99.9% positive feedback, with only 2 negatives in 6 years.
"DeserTBob" simply has an axe to grind, for being banned from Ebay
himself.

Furthermore, "DeserTBob" is decidedly anti-American, anti-USA, hates
the military, and is basically a socialist-communist-liberal left-
wing
radical. He fears and despises anyone religious in any way, and he
also
doesn't believe in God. "DeserTBob" once posted a comment on Usenet
that said "fuck Christmas". He can't accomplish anything himself,
so he tears down other good Americans who are out there, trying to
make a
living. He goes through a yearly holiday depression and attacks
everyone on the internet, even moreso during holiday seasons- he has
no
family to speak of, and obviously suffers from not being loved by his
mother enough, as a child.

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TOPIC: So quiet in here. Everyone Chrismas shopping?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 9:44 am
From: timeOday

Gordon wrote:
> We are waiting out the spam storm
>
> "Mike M." <steam@shovel.com> wrote in
> news:d%Z8j.23658$_m.21670@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>
>> Haven't been reading/posting to the group all that frequently in
>> recent months. But even considering the time of year, it still seems
>> awfully quiet in here.
>>
>> Hell, I didn't even notice any posts from happy-go-lucky Rod.
>> Something is definitely wrong. Nothing to read aside from
>> spam/cross-posted messages.
>>
>> I downloaded 1,000 headers from my Outlook reader, but almost no
>> poster names looked familiar. Same thing when I clicked the next
>> 1,000 - nothing but spam and rambling, nonsensical cross-posted
>> messages (appear to be a LOT more whackos cross-posting than normally
>> the case.)
>>
>> Anyway, to keep things on topic, I'm saving money on Christmas
>> expenses this year - and contributing to the "Green" movement at the
>> same time - by cutting back on two things: no outside Christmas lights
>> (or inside for that matter) and no Christmas tree. Just my small
>> part/sacrifice, in the name of saving our planet...
>>
>> Mike
>

Yeah, this NG is really suffering with the spam lately, to the point of
driving away the actual content.

Now, about Christmas trees and the environment...
For my own family, going to the national forest to cut a tree has become
one of my favorite Christmas traditions. I do flinch as I see a
procession of tree-laden cars leaving the forest. But then, pine is a
fast-growing wood. I am strongly in favor of regulation to ensure the
tree harvest is done in a sustainable way, and I think for the most part
this is already the case. I believe each permit we buy from the forest
service to harvest a tree pays for the planting of several more. Among
trees purchased from lots, I think most are farmed.

Granted, driving to the forest and cutting a tree still takes more fuel
and money than going without.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 12:58 pm
From: James

On Dec 17, 12:44 pm, timeOday <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
> > We are waiting out the spam storm
>
> > "Mike M." <st...@shovel.com> wrote in
> >news:d%Z8j.23658$_m.21670@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>
> >> Haven't been reading/posting to the group all that frequently in
> >> recent months. But even considering the time of year, it still seems
> >> awfully quiet in here.
>
> >> Hell, I didn't even notice any posts from happy-go-lucky Rod.
> >> Something is definitely wrong. Nothing to read aside from
> >> spam/cross-posted messages.
>
> >> I downloaded 1,000 headers from my Outlook reader, but almost no
> >> poster names looked familiar. Same thing when I clicked the next
> >> 1,000 - nothing but spam and rambling, nonsensical cross-posted
> >> messages (appear to be a LOT more whackos cross-posting than normally
> >> the case.)
>
> >> Anyway, to keep things on topic, I'm saving money on Christmas
> >> expenses this year - and contributing to the "Green" movement at the
> >> same time - by cutting back on two things: no outside Christmas lights
> >> (or inside for that matter) and no Christmas tree. Just my small
> >> part/sacrifice, in the name of saving our planet...
>
> >> Mike
>
> Yeah, this NG is really suffering with the spam lately, to the point of
> driving away the actual content.
>
> Now, about Christmas trees and the environment...
> For my own family, going to the national forest to cut a tree has become
> one of my favorite Christmas traditions. I do flinch as I see a
> procession of tree-laden cars leaving the forest. But then, pine is a
> fast-growing wood. I am strongly in favor of regulation to ensure the
> tree harvest is done in a sustainable way, and I think for the most part
> this is already the case. I believe each permit we buy from the forest
> service to harvest a tree pays for the planting of several more. Among
> trees purchased from lots, I think most are farmed.
>
> Granted, driving to the forest and cutting a tree still takes more fuel
> and money than going without.- Hide quoted text -

As heard on CBC radio this morning....

Real Christmas trees increase the amount of mould in your house.

They will be doing a larger study this year, but the limited study
last year asserted that the amount of mould in a sample house
increased 5 times from normal.

Their suggestions:
Have the tree up for a shorter time, the mould buildup increases over
time.
Put plastic sheeting under the tree to ensure the needles don't get
into the carpet.
Don't place the tree near an outside wall - the cool walls collect
condensation more.

For the record I love live trees, but have used artificial since we
have had pets.

James

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