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TOPIC: Free CURE Magazine: 1-Year Subscription
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 2:27 pm
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TOPIC: Guardian: Carbon myths
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 4:19 pm
From: Bill Rider

Don Klipstein wrote:
> In <C386FBC5.E9E1%faubillaud@hotmail.com>, Faubillaud wrote in part:
>
>> I like low-energy lightbulbs. In fact, I sell them at the local farmers'
>> market to offset my personal carbon sins. But even if a householder replaces
>> all their bulbs, the total impact on yearly electricity consumption is
>> likely to be no more than about 400 units (kWh) of electricity. A new plasma
>> TV bought at the same time will outweigh any energy savings. The government
>> talks about banning old-style bulbs, but no one dares mention the explosive
>> impact on energy consumption of the latest generation of large TVs and games
>> consoles. The power used by these monsters embarrasses their manufacturers
>> and the online brochures usually omit all details of electricity use. I
>> couldn't find a single retailer that dares to list the power consumption of
>> plasma TVs. The best rule for cutting home electricity consumption? Keep
>> your old TV. If you still feel the need to buy something, get a new
>> super-efficient fridge.
>
> Most flat-screen TVs are LCD ones, which consume about 1/2-2/3 as much
> power as CRT ones of the same size when the size is a common CRT size,
> 75-80% or so for larger sizes such as 32 inches. Plasma TVs consume only
> slightly more power than LCD ones of the same size.
>
> This link shows some sampling results indicating that plasma has about
> the same power consumption per unit screen area as a CRT, for larger
> sizes. Power consumption per unit screen area for CRT is greater in
> smaller sizes.
>
> The big factor explaining why plasma TVs consume more power is the fact
> that they tend to be big. Size matters!
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

I didn't see your link. Here's one:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html?tag=arw

There are 9 42" plasmas. They range from 188 to 464 Watts and average 286.

There are 4 42" LCDs. They range from 202 to 236 Watts and average 215.

I run my LCD computer monitor well below the maximum brightness unless
the room is full of sunlight. Maybe the power consumption of big TVs is
normally lower than the published figures.

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TOPIC: So quiet in here. Everyone Chrismas shopping?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 4:42 pm
From: nospam@nospam.com

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:44:25 -0700, in misc.consumers.frugal-living timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

>Gordon wrote:
>> We are waiting out the spam storm
>>
>> "Mike M." <steam@shovel.com> wrote in
>> news:d%Z8j.23658$_m.21670@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>> Haven't been reading/posting to the group all that frequently in
>>> recent months. But even considering the time of year, it still seems
>>> awfully quiet in here.
>>>
>>> Hell, I didn't even notice any posts from happy-go-lucky Rod.
>>> Something is definitely wrong. Nothing to read aside from
>>> spam/cross-posted messages.
>>>
>>> I downloaded 1,000 headers from my Outlook reader, but almost no
>>> poster names looked familiar. Same thing when I clicked the next
>>> 1,000 - nothing but spam and rambling, nonsensical cross-posted
>>> messages (appear to be a LOT more whackos cross-posting than normally
>>> the case.)
>>>
>>> Anyway, to keep things on topic, I'm saving money on Christmas
>>> expenses this year - and contributing to the "Green" movement at the
>>> same time - by cutting back on two things: no outside Christmas lights
>>> (or inside for that matter) and no Christmas tree. Just my small
>>> part/sacrifice, in the name of saving our planet...
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>
>Yeah, this NG is really suffering with the spam lately, to the point of
>driving away the actual content.
>
>Now, about Christmas trees and the environment...
>For my own family, going to the national forest to cut a tree has become
>one of my favorite Christmas traditions. I do flinch as I see a
>procession of tree-laden cars leaving the forest. But then, pine is a
>fast-growing wood. I am strongly in favor of regulation to ensure the
>tree harvest is done in a sustainable way, and I think for the most part
>this is already the case. I believe each permit we buy from the forest
>service to harvest a tree pays for the planting of several more. Among
>trees purchased from lots, I think most are farmed.
>
>Granted, driving to the forest and cutting a tree still takes more fuel
>and money than going without.

Even though I live in logging town on the edge of a National
Forest I won't go cut a live tree. We have a fake tree and feel good about not
killing a tree each year. We see enough dead trees going past on the logging
train everyday.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 6:04 pm
From: Marsha

timeOday wrote:
> Now, about Christmas trees and the environment...
> For my own family, going to the national forest to cut a tree has become
> one of my favorite Christmas traditions. I do flinch as I see a
> procession of tree-laden cars leaving the forest. But then, pine is a
> fast-growing wood. I am strongly in favor of regulation to ensure the
> tree harvest is done in a sustainable way, and I think for the most part
> this is already the case. I believe each permit we buy from the forest
> service to harvest a tree pays for the planting of several more. Among
> trees purchased from lots, I think most are farmed.

Does anyone really need a live tree that bad? Can't you make an
artificial one just as lovely? I don't mean to offend anyone, but to
cut down a live tree and then discard it when you're done just does not
make sense to me, even if it is from a "tree farm".

Marsha/Ohio

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TOPIC: Free Clorox Disinfecting Wipes
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 4:52 pm
From: Crafting@gmail.com

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TOPIC: Free Gladware Variety Pack
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 4:55 pm
From: Crafting@gmail.com

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 10:14 pm
From: Donna

Crafting@gmail.com wrote in news:8705b7e0-cee9-4554-9a24-
c13a67f689ce@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> http://www.frugalsimplicity.com/freegladware.html

frugalsimplicity.com is one big commercial. That's like frugal (NOT) spam,
doncha think?

--
~Donna
http://www.frugalsewing.com
Reduce, reuse, recycle, re-create.

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TOPIC: Casio Replica Watches Wholesale www.wholesale-watches.org
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 5:52 pm
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TOPIC: Apply For A Credit Card
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 8:20 pm
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TOPIC: wholesaler sport shoes,clothing,electrons mobile phone (Nokia N95=260
USD)(sport shoes=28USD)
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 8:51 pm
From: fashion-sky@msn.com

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31

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 8:53 pm
From: fashion-sky.001@hotmail.com

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 8:53 pm
From: fashion-sky.001@hotmail.com

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TOPIC: free energy drink sample
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 9:35 pm
From: frank

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TOPIC: www.china-dropshipper.com
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Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 10:47 pm
From: "barbara.an2008"

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