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TOPIC: LEARN TO EARN MORE CRORES NOW!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 12:35 am
From: homebusinesses

LEARN TO EARN MORE CRORES NOW!

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Do you realize that you are part of history in the making?
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or Currently DubaiMLM pays out up to 110 DubaiMLM Dollars for each new
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DubaiMLM Reward Dollars will be paid as follows:
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DubaiMLM Dollar will have, in less than 90 days, over 10,000 outlets
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Your DubaiMLM genealogy reports will be available and will show you
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January 30, 2008: The DubaiMLM Member Directory will be posted in your
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TOPIC: Compare Prices Save Money
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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 12:55 am
From: fractalien11@gmail.com

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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 1:28 am
From: fractalien

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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 2:33 am
From: himana

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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 5:04 am
From: "FreebiesPl.us"

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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 5:06 am
From: "FreebiesPl.us"

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TOPIC: The best bread recipe!!
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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 5:24 am
From: "Gwyneð Bennetdottir"

My husband is full of surprises. The other day he actually fixed the
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TOPIC: Natural gas space heaters
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 5:46 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

I just installed a 30K Btu/h natural gas vent-free radiant heater in
a house near Allentown, PA, where kerosine now costs $3.50/gallon
and natural gas costs about $1.50/therm (roughly equivalent).

Empire Comfort Systems (Enerco) makes this "Mr. Heater." Tractor Supply
sells it for $229.99 as sku #2151954. It comes with a thermostat and
a blower and a digital temperature display. It has an oxygen depletion
sensor, and it can work without grid power, but there have been some
problems since installation.

The thermostat only has 5 temp settings, as well as "pilot only." It is
supposed to make the room about 55 F min, with 5 F steps above that, but
the temp sensing bulb is on the back near a cold floor under a cold single-
pane window. When the first setting heats most of the room to more than
70 F, the owner turns the thermostat back to pilot before the heater
turns itself off, while the temperature display still only reads 58 F, ie
the thermostat isn't doing much. The owner says with the knob between
the lowest and pilot settings, the heater emits interesting flaming blue
gas footballs instead of the usual red glow. And it makes condensation
on the indoor window surfaces.

We might fix the first 2 problems by putting a 25 watt light bulb near
the temp sensor with a $15 line-voltage thermostat on the wall that
turns the bulb off when the room is warm enough.

This old house seemed drafty enough to avoid window condensation, but
it also has a damp basement, with puddles of water after rain. Keeping
water out of the basement might help a lot. Indoor storm window shrink
films could also help. Allentown is 31.8 F on an average December day.
An R1 window with a 1.5 Btu/h-F-ft^2 still airfilm indoor conductance to
70 F room air and (70-31.8)1ft^2/R1 = 38.2 Btu/h-ft^2 of heatflow would
have a glazing temp (dew point) of 70-38.2x1ft^2/1.5 = 44.5 F (504.5 R),
with indoor RH = 100e^-(9621(530-504.5)/(504.5x530) = 40% at 70 F (530 R).
Basement puddles at 55 F could condense on window surfaces.

If indoor film makes the windows R2 and raises the film temp to 70-19.1/1.5
59.4 F (519.4 R), the a max indoor RH = 100e^-(9621(530-519.4)/(519.4x530)
= 69%, with no condensation from basement puddles.

NREL says Allentown has an average humidity ratio wo = 0.0028 pounds of water
per pound of dry air in December, with Pa = 29.921/(1+0.62198/0.0028)
= 0.1341 "Hg. Air at 70 F and 100% RH has Psat = e^(17.863-9621/(460+70))
= 0.748 "Hg, approximately, so merely heating the outdoor air to 70 F
with no basement puddles would make the indoor RH = 100Pa/Psat = 18%.

The ASHRAE HOF says pure methane (vs a different natural gas mixture) has
a high heating value (HHV) of 23,875 Btu/lb, when we condense the water vapor
from combustion and a low heating value (LHV) of 21,495 (11% less) when we
don't, and 1000 Btu can evaporate a pound of water, so a vent-free heater
that makes 20K Btu/h also makes 0.11x20K/1000 = 2.2 lb/h of water vapor.
With window films and no basement puddles, we could keep a 50% indoor RH
(wi= 0.016) by moving in C cfm of fresh air (at 0.075 lb/ft^3), where
2.2=60C0.075(wi-wo), so C = 37 cfm, with a heat loss of about 37(70-31.8)
1420 Btu/h, which lowers the heater system efficiency to 93%, compared to
an HHV- 100%.

We might move outdoor air into the room with a $30 humidistat and a muffin
fan, or (more efficiently) use a homebrew HRV with condensation outside
and fresh air inside Coroplast (plastic corrugated sign material) plates,
or run a dehumidifier or an $80 low-airspeed window AC inside the room.

If the $1275 DV-20E 81.5%-efficient direct vent and $3268 93%-efficient
Mantis condensing gas heaters are measured with LHV-based efficiencies
and we subtract 11% to compare apples to apples, the $229 vent-free
heater is more efficient, as well as a lot cheaper.

Kiddie's 900-0113 plug-in CO and explosive gas detector with battery backup
($48 from Amazon, with free shipping) would go well with this.

Nick

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 5:56 am
From: George

nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> I just installed a 30K Btu/h natural gas vent-free radiant heater in
> a house near Allentown, PA, where kerosine now costs $3.50/gallon
> and natural gas costs about $1.50/therm (roughly equivalent).
>
> Empire Comfort Systems (Enerco) makes this "Mr. Heater." Tractor Supply
> sells it for $229.99 as sku #2151954. It comes with a thermostat and
> a blower and a digital temperature display. It has an oxygen depletion
> sensor, and it can work without grid power, but there have been some
> problems since installation.
>
>
I have never seen one of those style heaters that didn't have the same
slightly acrid odor that is really annoying in a confined space such as
a house. Is this one any different?

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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 5:47 am
From: "FreebiesPl.us"

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 8:48 am
From: Dennis

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:04:47 -0500, Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:
>Does anyone really need a live tree that bad? Can't you make an
>artificial one just as lovely? I don't mean to offend anyone, but to
>cut down a live tree and then discard it when you're done just does not
>make sense to me, even if it is from a "tree farm".

By buying a real tree from my neighbor's lot, I am helping support a
small farmer in my community. Some of the money is used to plant and
maintain more trees.

Dennis (evil)
--
The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 9:44 am
From: Donna

Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote in news:n8ufm3tfbhqt2kpl5v70l05hcd44lkjok2
@4ax.com:

> By buying a real tree from my neighbor's lot, I am helping support a
> small farmer in my community. Some of the money is used to plant and
> maintain more trees.

My brother in law has a Christmas tree farm. For every tree he cuts, he
plants another. It is self-sustaining now after several years. He also
reforested several acres on his propery and that doesn't get cut at all.

Responsible stewards of the land who live off the income from trees, be
they for Christmas, lumbar, or firewood, always replant what they take
down. I prefer my little fake Charlie Brown tree (it really is pitiful, but
I love it), but think if you do make certain you're buying from a re-
forestation type tree lot, you're not doing anything "wrong."

--
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Reduce, reuse, recycle, re-create.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 10:45 am
From: "Don K"

"Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in message news:fk79s2$u43$1@news.datemas.de...
> Does anyone really need a live tree that bad? Can't you make an artificial one just as
> lovely? I don't mean to offend anyone, but to cut down a live tree and then discard it
> when you're done just does not make sense to me, even if it is from a "tree farm".
>

The first year I bought my house I got a live tree with a rootbag.
I decorated it and kept it on the deck outside a sliding glass door
to the living room.

Then after the New Year, I planted it.

I also had sent off 5 or 10 bucks for some Norway Spruce seed.
I was surprised when I got a few thousand seeds in the mail!

I planted a couple hundred, but we moved before they grew to a
useable height.

Don

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 9:20 am
From: maryatbeach@webtv.net (Mary Mathews)

My sister's friend's TV exploded. The two ladies there were hurt and
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know about exploding TV's and what we can do to prevent such an
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 9:41 am
From: Donna

maryatbeach@webtv.net (Mary Mathews) wrote in news:1227-47680177-845
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>
> My sister's friend's TV exploded. The two ladies there were hurt and
> taken to the hospital. The house burned to the ground. Does anyone here
> know about exploding TV's and what we can do to prevent such an
> accident? Thanks. Mary
>
>

No clue how to keep that from happening. My nephew had that happen once.
Fortunately for them, no one was hurt.

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Reduce, reuse, recycle, re-create.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 10:25 am
From: "Don K"

"Mary Mathews" <maryatbeach@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:1227-47680177-845@storefull-3318.bay.webtv.net...
>
> My sister's friend's TV exploded. The two ladies there were hurt and
> taken to the hospital. The house burned to the ground. Does anyone here
> know about exploding TV's and what we can do to prevent such an
> accident? Thanks. Mary

Is that the official analysis and not a gas leak or something?

Anyway, the glass picture tube could break or a power supply
capacitor could short out.

Both are pretty rare events IMO, but you could further minimize
risk by getting a TV with an LCD display rather than a picture tube.

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Date: Tues, Dec 18 2007 11:21 am
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote:

> Alpha83 wrote:
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>> Had an auto insurance question. My friend keeps his 2nd car in the
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>> on that. This is in CA.
>
>
> In California, your car has to have insurance to be registered. If it
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> again.

The "bundles" of extra cost usually applies to the complete cancellation
of all one's insurance. There should not be a premium to again insure
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another car. It should be the same as buying another second car. Of
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