Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 12 topics

Monday, December 31, 2007

25 new messages in 12 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Free Werner ToolLasso with Beltclip
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f5b514c7e5534464?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:06 am
From: "FreebiesPl.us"

Free Werner ToolLasso with Beltclip
http://www.freebiespl.us/?p=387

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TOPIC: cheap AK APE CHL EVS ed hardy D&G DG BBC AF LRG POLO COACH lv ggg bags
Wholesale $29.99
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e46cc3dcd64a4108?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:10 am
From: yuwenwu011@gmail.com

http://www.silkonroad.com/index/news.asp
http://www.silkonroad.com/index/faq.asp
http://www.silkonroad.com/index/Payment.asp
http://www.silkonroad.com/index/Shipment.asp
http://www.silkonroad.com/index/register.asp

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TOPIC: Best prepaid or "Pay As You Go" cel plan for occasional user?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4dee5a0b0a1d2906?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:09 am
From: "Chloe"

"timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
news:5-qdnUmxseBwauranZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> For a dozen calls per year, I really think a payphone is your best bet.
> Each call will be a ripoff, but I think you'll still come out ahead.

Depends on whether the OP wants to be able to use the phone at a given
location or in an emergency. In the Midwestern metro area where I live, pay
phones are nearly nonexistent. I believe this is a national trend.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 6:24 am
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

Chloe wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
> news:5-qdnUmxseBwauranZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> For a dozen calls per year, I really think a payphone is your best bet.
>> Each call will be a ripoff, but I think you'll still come out ahead.
>
> Depends on whether the OP wants to be able to use the phone at a given
> location or in an emergency. In the Midwestern metro area where I live, pay
> phones are nearly nonexistent. I believe this is a national trend.

When we were driving on the Trans-Canada Highway, we stopped at a truck
stop. Every booth had its own pay phone! I suspect that pretty soon
the only places with pay phones will be truck stops, airports, schools
and libraries, and other places which have large numbers of people who
need to make calls but may not have cell phones.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
I believe I found the missing link between animal
and civilized man. It is us. -Konrad Lorenz

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:50 am
From:
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"Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply" <mmeahan@TRASHsonic.net> wrote in
message news:47788448$0$84203$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Doc wrote:
>> There are maybe half a dozen or fewer times a year when it might be
>> convenient to have a cel phone, but I don't feel like tithing for a
>> monthly fee for this little usage. Any opinions as to the best
>> provider for a very occasional user?
>

My Tracfone costs me $6.50 a month. I just renewed for a full year with 250
minutes for $99 and then was able to add another full year for half price.
If you use it a lot you will run out of minutes, but I've had my phone for 5
years and I have over 700 minutes currently, and I've never had to add any.
I only use this phone for emergencies or when I'm traveling, which isn't
often.

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TOPIC: Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla or Mazda, which is best????
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3262f8c1d706d9af?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:38 am
From: meteore

Hi,

I am thinking of trading in my Camry for a smaller car.

In your opinion, which of the above small cars would last me longer,
give better gas mileage, be more reliable and have less upkeep,
insofar as parts wearing out?

I am only one person and I do not need a large car.

Thanking you in advance for your opinions.

Roger

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:47 am
From: Just A User

meteore wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of trading in my Camry for a smaller car.
>
> In your opinion, which of the above small cars would last me longer,
> give better gas mileage, be more reliable and have less upkeep,
> insofar as parts wearing out?
>
> I am only one person and I do not need a large car.
>
> Thanking you in advance for your opinions.
>
> Roger

Well in my opinion I would choose the Toyota over the Honda, and then
the Honda over the Mazda. I have owned a Toyota and a Mazda. The Toyota
was more reliable. I have never owned a Honda, but know some who have
and they have nothing bad to say about them.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 6:28 am
From: "Joe"

Personally, Corolla or small Mazda would be my choice.

Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R

Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
http://yunx.com/valk.htm

Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?
http://tinyurl.com/5apkg

"meteore" <bigrog98@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ff7d25ae-efbc-4eab-b85c-9a20092055cd@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of trading in my Camry for a smaller car.
>
> In your opinion, which of the above small cars would last me longer,
> give better gas mileage, be more reliable and have less upkeep,
> insofar as parts wearing out?
>
> I am only one person and I do not need a large car.
>
> Thanking you in advance for your opinions.
>
> Roger

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:08 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<ff7d25ae-efbc-4eab-b85c-9a20092055cd@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
meteore <bigrog98@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of trading in my Camry for a smaller car.
>
> In your opinion, which of the above small cars would last me longer,
> give better gas mileage, be more reliable and have less upkeep,
> insofar as parts wearing out?
>
> I am only one person and I do not need a large car.
>
> Thanking you in advance for your opinions.

Check Consumer Reports, and the other car buying guides for their
reliability assessments.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:53 am
From: "Dave L"

For reliability and gas mileage I'd go with the Civic or Corolla. The
Corolla has been out for a while but I believe the redesign is coming out
for '09. I know a few people who has the newer Civic and love it, although
I have not personally driven it. I'm assuming you mean the Mazda3, which is
a really fun car to drive. The reliability is supposed to be decent but I
didn't care for their dealerships and sales managers/reps. Upkeep will
probably be better with the Civic and Corolla.

The Corolla is a smoother riding car but to me it's a little boring. The
new Civic has been getting excellent reviews and the drive is a little
sportier than the Corolla. The Mazda3 (2.3 liter version) is a blast to
drive. I test drove all 3 in '05 when I was shopping for a new car but the
new Civic wasn't out yet.

Do you consider how a car drives as well? Test drive all 3 and see what you
think. DO NOT let them pressure you into buying on the spot! Negotiate and
take your time. Car dealers are slow now anyway so they'll be calling you
back.

For the reasons you listed, I'd go with: 1) Civic 2) Corolla 3) Mazda3
For my personal reasons, I'd go with: 1) Civic 2) Mazda3 3) Corolla

All the cars I test drove were manual transmission.

-Dave
btw - In '05, I ended up going with an Accord with manual tranny. Was able
to get it to an excellent price, and it still runs great.

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TOPIC: Yet another Best Buy consumer horror story -- woman tasered by cop.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8fc4714b1a22ea0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:39 am
From: clams_casino

Joel Koltner wrote:

>Have you noticed, Rod, that a lot more people seem to disagree with you than
>agree with you? I respect your opinion, but right now I'm very glad we live
>in (more or less of) a democracy!
>
>
>

You have that backwards. Rod disagrees with everyone (read troll).
He frequently takes both sides of an issue - just to be argumentative.

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TOPIC: Frugal house heating: better to keep the thermostat static night?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/674ef4c9a7457ae9?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:41 am
From: Joe

At night I put my thermostat down to 62 degrees and my boiler (hot
water heat) basically doesn't cycle at all from 10pm to 7:30am when I
have it scheduled to heat the house back up to 66 degrees. Between
7:30am and 9am the boiler cycles about 5-6 times in order to heat the
house back up to 66 degrees. My question: Is it better to just keep
the thermostat at 66 degrees all night? Normally it would cycle once
every 2 hours to maintain the temp - that would mean it would cycle a
minimum of 4 times during the night instead of 5 or 6 in the morning.
Anyone done any experimenting with this?

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TOPIC: is this really fair?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f61f17e0953e4fcf?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:43 am
From: So_Boya@yahoo.com

On Dec 30, 4:56 pm, Al Bundy <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 30, 2:15 pm, So_B...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 30, 8:05 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > In article <n7edn3h4akltdlkbv1mq1tv05dnvb8c...@4ax.com>,
> > > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:56:55 -0800 (PST), Harry K
> > > > <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >You apparently missed the "insufficient evidence" bit. It happens all
> > > > >the time, even in outright murders by violence. If the PA doesn't
> > > > >have a reasonable chance to prove the case, he won't prosecute.
>
> > > > Brandy rear-ends another car on the freeway, forcing it into several
> > > > other cars and killing the driver. Just how much more evidence does he
> > > > need to get a conviction?
>
> > > Gross negligence. Accidents are not a criminal issue if there is no DUI
> > > or other criminal violation involved.
>
> > Troll Shame Him...
> > why do you not see it that way if careless smoking caused a fire?
> > Now an accident is an accident and someone died...
> > There seems to be a double standard there.
>
> > OP' s reaseach before you talk to this troll.
> > see linkshttp://tinyurl.com/yuzruwhttp://tinyurl.com/2ow4mm
>
> > This asshole knows everything...
> > or just lies that he does.
> > 'xcept respect.
>
> > Ply the boots if you find him in here.
>
> > If you don't like it...
> > So Boya
>
> So you got a bug up your ass. Who the hell else cares?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

With 817 post to the cheapskates division you must be a
real friend of the fiend.

Bundy

http://tinyurl.com/2o95d8

Boya
http://tinyurl.com/36opq9

Hirn
http://tinyurl.com/2kdgqg

As you can see..If you spend a little time in the
records this anti social person Hirn, need the boots
plied to em.

As I have many friends and fam in Mi,
I'd like to have your help stomp this out.

Which list do you choose Bundy?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 6:58 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<c841d205-74ec-461b-acc1-197b33c1d25f@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
So_Boya@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Dec 30, 8:05 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In article <n7edn3h4akltdlkbv1mq1tv05dnvb8c...@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:56:55 -0800 (PST), Harry K
> > > <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >You apparently missed the "insufficient evidence" bit. It happens all
> > > >the time, even in outright murders by violence. If the PA doesn't
> > > >have a reasonable chance to prove the case, he won't prosecute.
> >
> > > Brandy rear-ends another car on the freeway, forcing it into several
> > > other cars and killing the driver. Just how much more evidence does he
> > > need to get a conviction?
> >
> > Gross negligence. Accidents are not a criminal issue if there is no DUI
> > or other criminal violation involved.
>
>
> Troll Shame Him...
> why do you not see it that way if careless smoking caused a fire?
> Now an accident is an accident and someone died...
> There seems to be a double standard there.

Where did I say anything about accusing the person in this story of
criminal conduct? I agree that accidents happen all the time and locking
up someone because of an accident is foolish, especially when that
person became a corpse due to the accident.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 8:09 am
From: So_Boya@yahoo.com

On Dec 31, 9:58 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c841d205-74ec-461b-acc1-197b33c1d...@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> So_B...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Dec 30, 8:05 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > In article <n7edn3h4akltdlkbv1mq1tv05dnvb8c...@4ax.com>,
> > > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:56:55 -0800 (PST), Harry K
> > > > <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >You apparently missed the "insufficient evidence" bit. It happens all
> > > > >the time, even in outright murders by violence. If the PA doesn't
> > > > >have a reasonable chance to prove the case, he won't prosecute.
>
> > > > Brandy rear-ends another car on the freeway, forcing it into several
> > > > other cars and killing the driver. Just how much more evidence does he
> > > > need to get a conviction?
>
> > > Gross negligence. Accidents are not a criminal issue if there is no DUI
> > > or other criminal violation involved.
>
> > Troll Shame Him...
> > why do you not see it that way if careless smoking caused a fire?
> > Now an accident is an accident and someone died...
> > There seems to be a double standard there.
>
> Where did I say anything about accusing the person in this story of
> criminal conduct? I agree that accidents happen all the time and locking
> up someone because of an accident is foolish, especially when that
> person became a corpse due to the accident.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Troll Shame Him..
My post involved more than in this story,
You play dumbo all the time to cover your ass.
Here's what you post don't play dumb.

accidential fires
smoker can't have accidents?
They should be arrested...huh

http://tinyurl.com/yukaez

http://tinyurl.com/2f8vv6

You ever had an accident??
http://tinyurl.com/ysp7dj

You' ve had so many I going to have to put
in a watch alert to clue.

Your Insurance should be 16K per yr.
Otherwise any company insuring you
has an elevated risk factor.
Guarenteed to lose money.

Just like the smokers health insurance rates.. Eh?

Even at 16 k 1 good lawsuit for 500K
(the avg today ) would break the bank.

Me 1 minor fender bender 20 yrs.
total damage 350.00

Nobody has that many accidents that is
not criminal. Yet you troll to tout.

So Boya

sr. robert, nizo and others that want to
rid us of the troll...
e me it works....Just what the header says.

let's get a letter together and get comcast
a UDP for this guy.

Maybe we can do all 4 trolls

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TOPIC: Cheap survival idea to stay warm?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b29f75b086954dfc?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 5:52 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

One time while riding in a truck, my feetsies really got cold. I had to
finagle a piece of cardboard to put on the floor, help keep my feet off the
cold metal floor boards.

Christopher A. Young
.
.

"Gunner Asch" <gunner@Nospam.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:ot9gn39u5c1ggnmsa2sltc13602k5o0ven@4ax.com...
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:50:23 -0500, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:

> Years ago I had a commercial product that had a rectangular duct
>about 2" x 8" that ran from near the ceiling and was exhausted by a
>squirrel cage fan at the bottom. In my house I'm seeing a couple
>degrees difference from near the floor to near the ceiling, not worth
>bothering with I think. I have one room with an uninsulated floor and
>the temp gradiant is about the same there; although the room is overall
>cooler.

Its worked very well for me, for years. It does require a fair sized
fan with some suck to it for it to pull a fair amount of air off the
ceiling.

Thinking back on it..I made some 6" ones for some guard shacks we
had, that had an electric heater. Guards were complaining they were
sweating while their feet froze. Put one in each shack, they stopped
bitching and thanked me.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:21 am
From: Jeff

Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:50:23 -0500, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>
>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:27:19 -0500, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>>> You can not get a bumble bee to fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, actually, both have been done for centuries.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually a good analogy.
>>>>
>>>> A bumble bee falls from the sky the moment it stops burning energy
>>>> buzzing. Just as there is no glide path for a bumble bee there is little
>>>> for an uninsulated house. It has a low thermal time constant and loses
>>>> heat rapidly, hence you have to keep the heat going, or at least not
>>>> leave it off long. Radiant heat sources, like those oil filled heaters,
>>>> work better in such an environment.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> True indeed.
>>>
>>> Good analogy
>> How's the ceiling to floor ducts working out?
>>
>> Years ago I had a commercial product that had a rectangular duct
>> about 2" x 8" that ran from near the ceiling and was exhausted by a
>> squirrel cage fan at the bottom. In my house I'm seeing a couple
>> degrees difference from near the floor to near the ceiling, not worth
>> bothering with I think. I have one room with an uninsulated floor and
>> the temp gradiant is about the same there; although the room is overall
>> cooler.
>
> Its worked very well for me, for years. It does require a fair sized
> fan with some suck to it for it to pull a fair amount of air off the
> ceiling.
>
> Thinking back on it..I made some 6" ones for some guard shacks we
> had, that had an electric heater. Guards were complaining they were
> sweating while their feet froze. Put one in each shack, they stopped
> bitching and thanked me.
>> I think hot ceilings may be due to the heater output temp, overall
>> hotter air tending to rise more than more mildly warmed or radiant
>> heating that indirectly heats the air. I don't know... I suppose air
>> infiltration plays a part in cooling leaky floors.
>
> Hot air rises. It stays as high up as possible, with a big thermal
> gradiant from floor to ceiling. Get it circulating, mixing the
> air..works good.

Thanks. I bought an IR thermometer some time back and it is great fun
finding cold air leaks and temperature gradients. I'll do some more
experimenting because I'm just not seeing temperature gradients with
mostly radiant heat (I have no central forced air, a few small ceramic
heaters in the bathrooms though). The good results with the guard shack
lead me to believe this mix em up works well when you have high air
infiltration. I'll see where else it works...

At any rate, warm feet cool head is the most desirable heat. People
with radiant floors love them!

Here's something on temperature gradients of radiant versus forced air:

<URL:

http://www.buildingdesign.co.uk/mech-technical/frenger-t1/frenger-radiant-heating.pdf/>

Altogether too much here:

<URL:

http://books.google.com/books?id=6rWU0ThKRE8C&pg=PT371&lpg=PT371&dq=temperature+gradient+forced+air+heating&source=web&ots=h_7nwJ6NLp&sig=lZZa3SPxBujAsEyNjI2pCijkPaQ#PPP1,M1/>

All this leads me to think your idea (or a ceiling fan reversed)
works well with forced air and is unneeded for radiant.

Jeff
>
> Gunner
>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> Gunner

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:57 am
From: Retief

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:33:03 -0800 (PST), keithcorn7@gmail.com wrote:

>I am living in an old house that was once build for many kids. They
>run around and stay warm. That's why my house has no doors on the
>inside. I isolated the windows with plastic and tape and put curtains
>up to keep the heat of my space heater to keep one room warm. It helps
>a bit but it still feels like in a not very well isolated log cabin.

Did you hang blankets over the open doorways? They'll make reasonable
doors to keep the heat in the room.

>I have a gas heater in the kitchen but the heat goes straight up to
>the ceiling and below, where I am sitting, it stays rather cold and
>gas is expensive too.

Use the gas heater to keep the room above freezing, and use local
heating to keep you warm (i.e. bundle up, use a blanket or electric
blanket, or a radiant heater).

What kind of gas heater? Would a kerosene heater be cheaper to run?

>I am mainly sitting around my desk and typing. I was thinking of
>building something around my desk to just keep me warm when sitting
>inside and doing my desk work and have an electrical heater blowing
>some heat at me. But the heat goes lost in the rather big rooms.

How about a gas radiant heater instead. Point it at yourself.

Take some blankets and make a small "tent" over your desk (keep the
heater away from the fabric, however - don't set yourself on fire).

BTW, get also get battery powered smoke alarm/CO detector -- keep it
near you.

>I have currently no car to transport lumber in my house and start to
>build myself a shed within one of my rooms. I am also not too handly
>with hammer and tools. I know, it is a shame, but this is how it is.
>
>Do you have any ideas? Anything I could order thru the Internet?

Most anything can be ordered through the Internet.

Retief

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TOPIC: RodSpeed, in 2008, man will go to the moon
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/582000bcf0cab547?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 6:35 am
From: KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop

It is going to happen.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 6:41 am
From: Jeff

KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop wrote:
> It is going to happen.

You must be terribly bored, wherever you are.

Jeff

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TOPIC: Happy New Year RodSpeed
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/66f4252a56af98f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:07 am
From: KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop

In 2008, man will land on the moon.

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TOPIC: Importance Notice !!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eb14b0131595a2ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:13 am
From: "michalis1984@gmail.com"

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TOPIC: How Do Work Boots Protect You
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ed2bea657fe29071?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:38 am
From: imascot

bs866806@163.com wrote in news:e4bf3ff6-9652-4c30-b49b-
05b2593a850c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> If you want to purchase work boots why not go to retail store or
> Internet. As a matter of fact, online stores often offer discounts off
> or less expensive prices. It's more convenience to shop online. So,
> once you determine what you need, you can always order your work boots
> over the Internet.
>
> Be sure to purchase work boots that are a match for the function you
> need them. This way you will not be disappointed with your purchase
> and your feet will be thankful you spent the extra money on the proper
> work boots. Now, let see how you can find your work boots.
>
> http://cncarrental.cn/html/goodspeech/20060924/913.html
>

Now why didn't any of us think of this?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:45 am
From: William Souden

Rod Speed wrote:
> bs866806@163.com wrote:
>
>> It should be an obligation for worker to wear work
>> boots when they are in the field or in dangerous zone.
>
> Only in a mindless nanny society.

Like the one that pays your welfare stipend?
>
>> Preventing is better than to cure when unexpected happen to those workers.
>
> Using that mindlessly silly line, you should wear them to bed too,
> you never know when there might be a real emergency and you
> need to be able to run out of the house without injuring your feet.
>
>> You too! Don't forget to wear your work boots when you work outside!
>> You have to protect your feet.
>
> No I dont. I built a house wearing what we call thongs
> and you illiterate savages call flip flops in summer thanks.
>
>> You don't want to face any trouble while working, right?
>
> Dont want to when jumping out of bed either.
>
>> Your work boots will protect you from mud, water,
>
> I appear to have been able to survive both of those fine without work boots.
>
> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> electricity hazard
>
> Survived that fine too.
>
>> or other unwanted stuffs which you might step on to.
>
> I have stepped on a dog turd at times, and into a
> cow turd once, and managed to survive that fine too.
>
>> Don't worry; you are safe working outside because your work
>> boots have been designed for a wide range of conditions.
>
> So have my thongs.
>
>> The simple waterproof boots are made in different length of uppers and, in extreme
>> cases, thigh-boots called "waders" by anglers end at waist-level of the wearer.
>
> I dont actually work in waist high water very often and expect
> I would survive the ocassional exposure to that even if I did since
> I have managed to survive much deep water than that fine.
>
> Come to think of it, if its deeper, you could end up drowning due to the work boots.
>
>> Who are wearing work boots and what boots are they wearing?
>> Well, these boots are made to protect steelworkers if they get
>> caught in pools of molten metal.
>
> Dont come across that very much in my work. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> And this goes also for chemical workers.
>
> Dont come across that very much in my work. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> Meanwhile, workers in Antarctic continent are wearing boots designed for
>> walking in the Antarctic continent which are more insulated and inflatable.
>
> Dont come across that very much in my work. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> You might want to find the information in MyBootsGuide.com.
>
> Or I might not too. Have they got thongs in there ?
>
> <reams of mindless silly shit flushed where it belongs>
>
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 7:46 am
From: William Souden

Rod Speed wrote:
>
> I dont actually work.

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