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TOPIC: M.I,5-Persecu tion - Mol estation d uring Trav el
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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 12:22 am
From: femfevm@hotmail.com

MI5. Persecution: Molestation during Travel

MI5s persecution of me varies in. intensity. Since 1990 it has been steady
for perhaps 80% of the time; there was a notable quiet period in. 1993, and
another quiet period in Jan-Feb 1995, as well as a hiatus in the first. two
months of. 1999. It puzzles me that they cease and restart, seemingly
without any. logic or reason. But one aspect of MI5s activities against me
which is relatively. predictable is this weeks articles topic, which is
Molestation during Travel. Almost. every time I cross the Atlantic, go to
the Continent or even try to enjoy a holiday. in this country, you can bet
that MI5 will be there doing their utmost to. wreck it all.

This aspect of. the harassment is particularly relevant as I will be
travelling to Europe again in a months time, with naturally. the Minidisc
recorder in tow; so it. will be interesting to see if I can record the
abuse which. will almost certainly take place, either on the Tube going to
the airport, at the airport, on the flight, in the terminal building -. MI5
have previously instituted instances of abuse. at each of these locations,
so well see how much taxpayers. money they waste this time, and whether it
will prove possible to capture their. abuse on minidisc.

Read. about the MI5 Persecution on the Web

June 1992. in Polands mountain resort of Zakopane

The persecution started in June 1990, and for. the first two years I stayed
in the UK apart from a couple of brief day trips to. Calais. By the summer
of 1992 Id had enough of being cooped up in England with. abusive fellow
employees egged. on by an abusive secret police service, and decided to
spend 10 days in southern Poland, on. what was intended to be a holiday at
the mountain resort town of. Zakopane.

Unfortunately the psychopaths of the. Security Service were not willing to
allow me to enjoy a holiday in peace and. quiet. The journey to Zakopane
was by coach. from the meeting point at Londons Victoria coach station
(National. Express) followed by ferry followed by another coach across
Europe. As we left Victoria a youth and his girlfriend started. a loud
tirade of abuse. directed at "this bloke", where the "bloke" was never
named,. but it was very clear that the "bloke" was myself. The youth said
"they" had. "found somebody from his school, and he was always really
stressed at school, a real psycho". Again, the label "they". was not
elaborated on,. but it was clear that "they" = the persecutors from
MI5. The boy also said, "he was in. a bed and breakfast for only one night
and they got him". By a not unexpected coincidence I had been. in a B&B in
Oxford a week previously, which had been booked from work;. other things
lead me to the. conclusion that the company's offices were bugged for most
of the 2 1/2 years. that I was there, so "they" would have known a room in
the. B&B had been booked. After a few minutes of this I went back to where
they were sitting. and asked where they were travelling. The boy named a
village in France, and the girl's giggling suddenly. ceased; presumably it
permeated to her brain cell. what the purpose of the boy's abuse was.

It is now very clear to me that. MI5 were trying to have me incarcerated,
assaulted. or killed on this trip across Europe. The degree of verbal
violence inescapably leads to this conclusion. When we. arrived at our
destination, it became clear that. many people, both in our tour group and
its guide, and among the ordinary residents. of the town, knew there was a
movement under way to "get" me.. MI5 employed many people and significant
resources for an action which they knew. would only take a maximum of ten
days. A commercial operation would never have felt. able to waste such
resources on such an. unproductive and temporary action; only a
state-sponsored, taxpayer-funded entity like the Security Service. would be
able to be so. wasteful.

To give some examples of what happened in those ten days; I was. walking in
some woods outside the. town, when a Polish woman, looking at me, said the
English "shit" in a strongly Polish-accented voice. For the. first three
years 1990-92 MI5 had. been trying to force this word on me. Another
example; I was walking near my "hotel" when a mother said laughing to. her
child, "a wiesz ze to. prawdziwy wariat" which means "you know hes a real
madman". And the. "TV reacting" happened there too; on Polish TV, a bemused
looking journalist. said to another, "to jest sprawa Anglikow", which means
"its. the concern of the English", in other words, none of our business,
despite what the English. are trying to force down our throats.

Just before we left for home, I went with some others from. our group to a
nearby bar. There a man shouted at me the same sexual obscenity which. MI5
have constantly thrown at me these last. three years. I think MI5 try to
justify their various terms of abuse. by repeating them at me until I say
them, either while conscious or while talking. in my sleep; and then they
seize on my saying those words to "prove". that the obscenities are "my
fault", et cetera. This rather stupid reasoning of theirs. can actually be
seen. as indicative of the psychopathic condition attributed to them in a
previous article; blaming the victim for the. crime you inflict on him is
how psychopaths. think.

Nor. did the persecutors let up during the return trip. Returning on the
ferry over the channel, a rather insalubrious-looking guy. talked to his
mates about "and you know this bloke, hes really mad you know,. hes really
mad". On the National Express return coach to London, a. group of five or
six young people started shouting at me. I slumped. in my seat and tried to
avoid presenting a target, so they got ever more strident. - "whats the
matter. with you, cant you hear us?" One of the other people who had been
on the trip to Poland asked them why they were shouting at me, and. they
said, "hes been to. Cambridge", to which the co-holidayer asked them, "have
you been to Cambridge?" presumably thinking. they were aggrieved fellow
students, but they answered "no". Even after. I left the coach at Elephant
and Castle abuse continued; in the tube. station, two kids started throwing
abuse at me; one of them said to the other,. "and you know he works?" to
which the. other answered "yes".

Immediate Aftermath of. November 1992

As you will know from previous articles, my manager at OCG -. ARIS/Oxford,
Mr Mitchell, induced a mental breakdown in me in the. months leading up to
Nov/92. The diagnosis was regarded by the persecutors as a victory. for
them, because few. if any people give credence to allegations of harassment
when they are made by somebody suffering from. schizophrenia. There is also
a bias against the mentally. ill, an "institutionalised bigotry" in society
comparable to the institutionalised racism against. blacks.

However, MI5 did not let up on persecuting. me following Nov/92. In
December 1992 I flew by charter jet to Alicante in Spain for two. weeks
recuperation. MI5 planted one of their people on the. flight, a youth who
tried to. start some noises that "hes a nutter". One of the other
passengers replied, "oh hes a nutter is. he? oh well!" and the youth shut
up and said nothing. for the rest of the flight. I think it would be fair
to say that the youth on the flight was embarrassed by what he. had been
asked to do in making. the flight "uncomfortable" for me; he sounded
defensive rather than. aggressive.

My first trip to Canada in. June 1993

Ive already covered this in a previous article so Ill just give. a brief
summary here. On 10 June 1993. I flew British Airways from Heathrow to
Torontos Pearson Airport. On de-planing from the aircraft, one of. a group
of four fellow passengers looked at me and said, laughing, "if. he tries to
run away well find him".. It was quite obvious that these four men were the
ones who had. been harassing me since 1990.

I did nothing to apprehend them or. bring this incident to the attention of
the airport authorities, mostly. because this was my very first visit to
Canada, and the last thing I wanted was. to get into a dispute before I had
even finished disembarking. In retrospect, I can see this. was a terrible
mistake; I. should have made every effort to detain and identify these
people.

Subsequently I have made numerous attempts to obtain the names. of these
people from British Airways passenger. lists, by talking to BA, through a
lawyer in Ontario,. through a solicitor in England, through the UK police,
and also through private detectives in the. UK. But all my efforts have
come to nothing. BA have told. me they keep passenger lists for a period of
seven years, so they will. still have the list for this 1993 flight. I did
not see or hear anything during the rest. of my visit to Ontario in 1993
which would have lead. me to believe that I was being watched or followed.

Journey across Canada. in summer 1994

As I think Ive already. said in previous articles I emigrated to Canada in
late May. 1994. For six weeks between late May 1994 and early July 1994 I
travelled across Canada from coast. to coast, starting in Toronto, visiting
various cities and ending up in British Columbia.. I saw this both as
something. of a holiday, and the chance to get to know a little better my
adopted. country.

As you can. guess, MI5 followed me everywhere I went during these six
weeks. In Toronto, where I started this trip. in late May, I was spoken
about by one. youth to another with the words "hes an idiot", to which the
other replied, laughing sympathetically,. "good luck to him".

A couple of days later I went to Montreal and. stayed at the YMCA
downtown. As you can. guess (this is all so predictable, isnt it?) MI5
followed me there and bugged my room. at the YMCA. Not only that, but they
managed to set-up an instance of "newscaster reaction". from a local
television station; while I was watching a Vermont TV. news programme on
the set in my room, the. woman reporter said, "well theyre just tired and
they want to go home", which sounds like a. pretty unprofessional thing to
say until you realise she was. trying to say of me that I was the one that
was supposed to be tired, and they (ie. MI5) wanted me to go home to the
UK.

On the bus journey across the North American. continent, it was quite clear
that MI5 were following me every step on the. way. For the first part of
the journey they actually put someone on the. bus with me, a youth who said
at me "that guys paranoid" and tried to incite other passengers. to attack
me. I stopped for a couple. of days in Winnipeg in central Canada, and on
leaving the town heard on the radio. a female presenter ranting about
"insanity! insanity!". It is very tiring. travelling such a long distance
by bus; I. took the journey in two steps, each of about 36 hours; and it is
especially tiring when. you know MI5 are watching you and harassing you
every. step of the way.

When I finally got to Vancouver, MI5 instituted the usual. harassment, in
very short order. I was surprised how quickly they were able. to induce
hatred towards me in elements of the general. populace; the Security
Service must have employed a number of agents and. serious resources in a
very short period of time; and for no real gain, because I. havent been
back. to BC for almost five years, so all their "work" appears to be for
nothing.. In downtown Vancouver a street person said in front of me,
"theyre all talking about him". For a few days I was staying. at Pauls
Guest House (345 W.14th Ave); on the day. I left, the owner Paul shouted at
no-one in particular, "hes. going to Victoria" - which was quite accurate,
I was indeed going. to the provincial capital Victoria on Vancouver
Island. But I had not told anyone at. the guest house where I was going; I
had only. mentioned to my parents back in England on the phone that I was
going away. from Vancouver for a few days. Which leads me to suppose that
MI5s bugging of the. phone in my parents house yielded the
"intelligence" that I intended to visit. Victoria, and they had passed the
information. on to Paul.

When I got to Victoria it was again obvious that the. persecutors were
"doing their stuff" there as. well. On the street I was identified as being
English,. although I had not said anything so my accent hadnt given me
away; and returning by ferry to the mainland, I was. abused by a Canadian
woman. who said, "hes a nutter! you can run but you cant hide". During my
years in Canada I have never heard the. word "nutter" on any other
occasion;. I do not think it is part of Canadians vocabulary; so the
Canadian woman. on the ferry, who was obviously talking about me, must have
been supplied with this word by the. English persecutors. And once I got
back to Vancouver, staying at the Austin Hotel. on Granville St, I listened
to a conversation in the apartment block directly. opposite, and a man
saying, "hes paranoid, so thats as bad as it can be, so why. are they doing
this. to him?".

Holiday in. the States, August 1995

By 1995 I was living in Canada,. and in August I went down the eastern
seaboard to Florida and as far as Key West by car. As. you can guess (this
is all so boring and predictable, isnt it?) MI5 followed me every. step of
the way. I can see in retrospect that this must have been. quite easy for
them as they. had my car bugged, both on the inside to listen to anything
that was said and what radio. station I was listening to, as well as what
must have been a tracker device installed to track. it across long
distances.

The first city I. visited was Philadelphia. In the old Congress Hall where
the first US Congress assembled, the woman guide started referring. to my
situation, saying that "all these. people in Europe were watching it", and
they were "a. little paranoid" at this 18th-century experiment in
democracy. Also I had. recently written a newsgroup post where Id described
a (female) poster as "wet-nosed" (implying "canine"), and a young girl. in
Philadelphia remarked, "so he thinks were dogs?" There were. two or three
more incidents during this holiday in the eastern States,. including a
radio station down near Miami, showing "they" had. tracked me all the way
there, and were bugging the inside. of my car; but I didnt record the
details. and Ive forgotten some of it now. Also down in Miami Beach a
French tourist in. a lift expressed support for me with the words, "cest
incroyable" ie. its incredible, meaning that MI5s well-known. actions
against. me were beyond belief.

To go back a bit, in about May/June 1995 Id. visited New York, again by
car, and was. insulted several times by people using the same words that
had been used against me in England. In Central. Park, and elderly
Englishman (not a real gentleman. - but then the Engish view of themselves
as "gentlemen" etc is quite laughable). looked at me and said "idiot". And
while I was eating in a streetside. restaurant a New York youth started
laughing and said something like, "I cant believe it, hes actually here". -
I. think that was because I had had an expressed wish to visit New York for
some years before this, although after. this visit I wont be going there
again for a very. long time.

Visit to. Poland December 1995/January 1996

In December 1995 I. flew (BA again, unfortunately - every time Ive flown BA
one of these incidents has happened,. presumably MI5 is happier setting up
harassment on British-domiciled carrier) from Montreal to. Berlin and
travelled on to Poland to visit. family. MI5 naturally harassed me in
Poland during my brief stay. They followed me around. and got Polish people
to take. part in the harassment. In one case two Polish youths talked in
front of me saying in English. (with marked Polish accents), "fucked up
men, fuck you". There. were also other incidents which I dont remember too
clearly since it. was some time ago.

The return flight connected through Heathrow, and in the transit. lounge
MI5 again set-up. harassment against me. In Poland they were talking their
abuse in English, and. in London they set Polish people after me to speak
in Polish; they. heard me on the phone to my father, and said "a wiesz ze
to Polski wariat", in an almost. sympathetic, inclusive fashion
(translation. "you. know hes a Polish nutter"). Once on the flight to
Montreal I. was again set upon by two English youths, one of whom spoke and
the other listened. The aggressive "fat bastard" youth. said, "if he wants
to be. a wanker" (its my fault theyre harassing me, you see),
self-justification that "hes a nutter" (so we have to keep on. abusing him,
because hes ill), as well as talking about the town in Poland where I. had
been staying. He also. said, "he doesnt know who we are", but as already
remarked in a previous article, that was at best a half-denial of my. guess
expressed in internet newsgroups that the people after me were MI5. - if
anything. its a half-confirmation rather than a half-denial.

These incidents are still going on. You can hear. digitised audio files of
abuse on a BA flight to. Berlin in 1998 on the Web at address

On this flight they were again attacking my mental. health; "paranoid, hes
paranoid". and "nutter" are discernable. The last "during travel" contact
was at Ottawa Airport on 21. July 1998, when "Alan Holdsworth" the
psychopath MI5 agent,. dressed as a vagrant, was pacing aggressively in the
departure area. In three weeks I will again be travelling to. Europe; we
will see what fresh acts of molestation MI5 perpetrate. during this trip.

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TOPIC: Best prepaid or "Pay As You Go" cel plan for occasional user?
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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 12:38 am
From: SMS 斯蒂文* 夏

Doc wrote:
> There are maybe half a dozen or fewer times a year when it might be
> convenient to have a cel phone, but I don't feel like tithing for a
> monthly fee for this little usage. Any opinions as to the best
> provider for a very occasional user?
>
> WalMart had something like 9 vendors on display, some of which seemed
> very pointedly aimed at the Hispanic market.
>
> Also wondering about issues like whether the given service is likely
> to be around for a while, how the service compares to other providers,
> if the phone itself is likely to work when I use it, etc. One of the
> complaints I keep seeing is customer service - activation being a
> hassle, reps somewhere in S. American who barely speak English.

In general you want to avoid all the prepaid services sold at places
like Wal-Mart. In particular, TracFone, Net10, Boost, Virgin, AT&T and
Verizon InPulse should be avoided.

Go to "http://www.prepaiduswireless.com/".

There are basically three choices for very low cost and very low use.
T-Mobile, which will cost you $100 the first year, but only $10 in
subsequent years. 7-11 SpeakOut, which will cost you a minimum of $2.08
per month, and PagePlus which will cost you a minimum of $2.31/month.
Each has pros and cons which that web site evaluates in detail.

You are right to be concerned about the service being around. Many MVNOs
have gone belly-up. I'd be a little concerned about SpeakOut as it
doesn't seem to be doing too well.

Personally I have my two kids on PagePlus. The customer service is all
in the U.S., but in reality the need for customer service has been low.
Once I failed to add more time within four months and the balance
disappeared, and I called them and they restored it right away. Another
time I called to move the phone number to a different phone, and they
told me I had to go through a dealer, which I did online in about 15
minutes (but I had to pay about $6). The two big advantages of PagePlus
is the very low per minute cost, and the excellent coverage. The
disadvantage (compared to T-Mobile To Go and 7-11 SpeakOut) is that you
have to add time every 120 days, versus 365 days).

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 12:43 am
From: SMS 斯蒂文* 夏

catalpa wrote:

> Best deal is PagePlus cellular using the Verizon network. Buy a cheap
> Verizon phone on Ebay, then buy a PagePlus activation on Ebay for $5.00 or
> less and add $10.00 in airtime every 120 days to keep the phone active. The
> activation was easy and last time I called customer service the rep was
> bilingual. The difficult part is remembering to add time every 120 days so
> as not to lose your accumulated minutes.

This happened to me once, and I called them and they restored the
balance (and they extended the re-upping for another 120 days without me
having to purchase more airtime , which I didn't ask for or expect them
to do).

Steve
"http://www.prepaiduswireless.com/"

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 12:45 am
From: SMS 斯蒂文* 夏

For outgoing only, and excellent coverage, you can get by with spending
21¢ per month. Just buy $10 worth of time every two years on ARN.

"http://www.emergencycellphones.com/mot_v120e.html"
"http://www.americanroaming.com/buyprepaid.php"

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 3:18 am
From: Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply

SMS 斯蒂文* 夏 wrote:
>
> In general you want to avoid all the prepaid services sold at places
> like Wal-Mart. In particular, TracFone, Net10, Boost, Virgin, AT&T and
> Verizon InPulse should be avoided.

I have had a Tracfone for YEARS and only had one problem with them,
which was, admittedly, a little out of the ordinary (porting a telephone
number from an analog Tracfone to a digital Tracfone).

Call reception here in the San Francisco Bay Area has been great, costs
me about $6-7 a month, and works perfectly.

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TOPIC: M`I,5`Persecut ion . MI 5 ar e Af raid to Admit Th eyre Behin d t he
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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 12:43 am
From: ifvif@yahoo.com

MI5 are Afraid to Admit They're. Behind the Persecution

MI5. have issued a formal denial of any involvement in my life to the
Security Service Tribunal, as you might expect them. to; but, more
importantly, the persecutors. have never denied that theyre from the
Security Service, despite several years of accusations from my corner. on
usenet and in. faxed articles. I am not surprised that the Security Service
Tribunal found "no determination in your favour". I am. however a little
surprised that the persecutors have refused. to confirm my identification
of them; by doing so, they implicitly admit that my. guess was right.

"No determination in your favour" says the Security Service. Tribunal

In 1997, I made. a complaint to the Security Service Tribunal, giving only
the bare outlines of my case. I do not think it would. have made very much
difference if Id made a much more detailed complaint, since the. Tribunal
has no ability. to perform investigatory functions. It can only ask MI5 if
they have an interest in a subject, to which MI5 are of. course free to be
"economical with the truth". A. couple of months after my complaint the
Tribunal replied. that;

The Security Service Tribunal have now investigated. your complaint and
have asked me to inform you that no determination in. your favour has been
made on. your complaint.

Needless to say this reply. didnt surprise me in the slightest. It is a
well established fact that the secret service are a den of. liars and the
Tribunal a toothless watchdog, so to. see them conforming to these
stereotypes might be disappointing. but unsurprising.

It is noteworthy that the Tribunal. never gives the plaintiff information
on whether the "no determination in your. favour" is because MI5 claims to
have no interest in. him, or whether they claim their interest is
"justified". In the 1997 report. of the Security Service Commissioner he
writes that. "The ambiguity of the terms in which the notification of the
Tribunals decision is. expressed is intentional", since a less ambiguous
answer would indicate. to the plaintiff whether he were indeed under MI5
surveillance. But I note that the ambiguity also allows. MI5 to get away
with lying to the question of their interest in me;. they can claim to the
Tribunal that they have no interest, but at a future date, when. it becomes
clear that they did indeed place me under. surveillance and harassment,
they can claim their interest was. "justified" - and the Tribunal will
presumably not admit that in their previous reply MI5 claimed. to have no
interest.

"He doesnt know who we. are"

In early January 1996 I flew on a British Airways. jet from London to
Montreal;. also present on the plane, about three or four rows behind me,
were two young men, one of them fat and voluble,. the other silent. It was
quite. clear that these two had been planted on the aircraft to "wind me
up". The fat youth. described the town in Poland where I had spent
Christmas, and made some unpleasant personal. slurs against me. Most
interestingly, he said the. words, "he doesnt know who we are".

Now I find this particular. form of words very interesting, because while
it is not a clear admission, it is only a half-hearted attempt at. denial
of my guess that "they" = "MI5". Had my guess been. wrong, the fat youth
would surely. have said so more clearly. What he was trying to do was to
half-deny something he knew to be true,. and he was limited to making
statements which he knew to be not false; so. he made a lukewarm denial
which on the face of it means nothing, but. in fact acts as a confirmation
of my. guess of who "they" are.

On. one of the other occasions when I saw the persecutors in person, on the
BA flight to Toronto in June 1993, one of the group of four men. said, "if
he tries to run away well find him". But. the other three stayed totally
quiet and avoided eye contact. They did so to avoid. being apprehended and
identified - since. if they were identified, their employers would have
been revealed, and it would become known that. it was the secret services
who. were behind the persecution.

Why are. MI5 So Afraid to admit their involvement?

If you think about it, what has been going on in Britain for. the last nine
years is simply beyond. belief. The British declare themselves to be
"decent" by definition, so when they engage in indecent. activities such as
the persecution of a mentally ill person, their. decency "because were
British" is still in the forefront of their minds, and a process of. mental
doublethink kicks in,. where their antisocial and indecent activities are
blamed on the victim "because. its his fault were persecuting him", and
their self-regard. and self-image of decency remains untarnished. As
remarked in another article some time. ago, this process is basically the
same as a large number of Germans employed. fifty years ago against Slavic
"untermenschen" and the Jewish "threat" -. the Germans declared, "Germans
are known to be decent. and the minorities are at fault for what we do to
them" - so they were able to. retain the view of themselves as being
"decent".

Now suppose this entire episode had happened in some other country.. The
British have a poor view of the French, so lets say it had. all happened in
France. Suppose there was a Frenchman, of non-French. extraction, who was
targeted by the French internal security apparatus,. for the dubious
amusement of French television newscasters, and. tortured for 9 years with
various sexual and. other verbal abuse and taunts of "suicide". Suppose
this all came out into the open. Naturally, the French authorities. would
try hard to place the blame on their victim - and in their. own country,
through the same state-controlled media which. the authorities employ as
instruments of torture, their view. might prevail - but what on earth would
people overseas make of their actions? Where would their "decency". be
then?

This. is why MI5 are so afraid to admit theyre behind the
persecution. Because if they did admit responsibility, then. they would be
admitting that there was an. action against me - and if the truth came out,
then the. walls would come tumbling down. And if the persecutors were to
admit they were from MI5, then you can be sure I would report. the
fact; and the persecutors. support would fall away, among the mass media as
well. as among the general public. When I started identifying MI5 as the
persecutors in 1995 and 1996 there. was a sharp reduction in media
harassment, since people read my. internet newsgroup posts and knew I was
telling the truth. The persecutors cannot. deny my claim that theyre MI5,
because then I. would report their denial and they would be seen as liars -
but they cannot. admit it either, as that would puncture their campaign
against me. So they are forced to maintain a ridiculous silence. on the
issue of. their identity, in the face of vociferous accusations on internet
newsgroups and. faxed articles.

Have MI5 lied to. the Home Secretary?

In order for the Security Services to bug. my home, they would either have
needed a warrant from the Home Secretary, or. they might have instituted
the bugging without a warrant. Personally I think it. is more likely that
they didnt. apply for a warrant - I cannot see any Home Secretary giving
MI5 authority to bug a residence to. allow television newscasters to
satisfy their rather voyeuristic. needs vis-a-vis one of their
audience. But. it is possible that the Security Service presented a warrant
in some form before a home secretary at some point. in the last nine years,
for telephone tapping or surveillance of my. residence, or interception of
postal. service.

So the possibility presents itself that a. Home Secretary might have signed
a warrant presented to him based on MI5 lies. Just as MI5. lie to the
Security Service Tribunal, so they might have. lied to a Home Secretray
himself. MI5 and MI6 are naturally secretive services. former home
secretary. Roy Jenkins said, they have a "secretive atmosphere
.... secretive vis-a-vis the government as well as [enemies]". Jenkins
also said he "did. not form a very high regard for how they discharged
their. duties".

It was only a few years ago that MI5 was brought. into any sot the
extraordinary thing. is that British media organisations like the state-
and taxpayer-funded BBC take such an active. part in the MI5-inspired
campaign of harassment. We have after all heard of MI5 trying to. bribe
broadcast. journalists; but surely there must be a substantial number who
are not bought or blackmailed by the Security Services, and. who take part
in the "abuse by newscasters" of their own volition? The BBC. is supposed
to be independent of the government of the. day as well as the
Establishment in general.. While perhaps it is childish to think that the
BBC is anything. other than effectively state-controlled, the degree of
collusion between the BBC and the British Secret Police. MI5 is something
you would not find in many countries. Individual tele-journalists in. other
countries. would have enough self-esteem not to allow themselves to be
controlled by their secret police - seemingly,. BBC broadcasters like
Martyn Lewis and Nicholas Witchell have such a low opinion of. their
employing organisation that they see no wrong in dragging the. BBCs
no-longer-good name through yet more mud, at the mere. request (whether
supported by financial or other inducements) of the British secret. Police,
MI5.

And. when challenged, these broadcasters LIE about their involvement, with
just as little shame. as MI5 themselves. The BBCs Information dept have
said. that;

"I can assure you that the BBC would never. engage in any form of
surveillance activity such as. you describe"

which is an out-and-out. lie. Buerk and Lewis have themselves lied to their
colleagues in the BBCs Information. department over the "newscaster
watching", but unsurprisingly they refuse. to put these denials in
writing.. Doubtless if the "newscaster watching" ever comes to light, Buerk
and Lewis will then. continue to lie by lying about these denials. So much
for. the "impartial" BBC, a nest of liars bought and paid for by the
Security. Services!

It is obvious that the persecution is at the instigation of. MI5 themselves
- they have read. my post, and only they have the surveillance technology
and media/political access. Yet they. have lied outright to the Security
Service Tribunal. Similarly, BBC newscasters Michael. Buerk and Martyn
Lewis have lied to members. of their own organisation. The continuing
harassment indicates they are all petrified of this business coming. out
into. the open. I will continue to do everything possible to ensure that
their wrongdoing. is exposed.

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From: fiemief@lycos.com

MI5 Persecution. Update: Friday 11 June, 1999

Harassment. in a pub in Clapham, Tuesday lunchtime

Once a month, or once every. other month, I meet a Polish friends of mine
who lives in Clapham North, and sometimes we go to a particular. pub near
where he lives. The last time was some two months. ago; I did not have my
minidisc-walkman with me, and consequently. was seriously harassed by
people MI5 had instructed to harass. me, in the pub.

This Tuesday, 8 June 1999, we again went to. the same pub for a pre-meal
drink. This time I did have my minidisc-walkman with me. As. you can guess,
we were followed. into the pub by a couple of young people (Im getting
older and older - isnt it funny how the MI5 agents all look young. these
days?). They started talking about my situation, in particular. some travel
I had booked the previous day. Unfortunately, they were talking. fairly
quietly, and my minidisc didnt. pick up their speech.

MI5s. schizophrenic reasoning is that simultaneously I am very important
and worthy of. their acts of persecution, and I am also totally unimportant
and their abuse of me "doesnt matter".. Perhaps they should test their
agents. and managers for obsessive personalities or psychotic features in
the. same way as employees are drug-tested. MI5 might lose their "worst
cases" employees if some psychological testing were. applied to their
recruitment. procedure.

Toothless. Watchdogs. What a Surprise.

Recently I have been engaging in. communications with two watchdogs, the
Security Service Tribunal which deals with. complaints against the security
service (and. always clears MI5 of any wrongdoing), and the Data Protection
Registrar, which is mandated to investigate misuse. of personal data held
on. computer.

In a letter to Nick Brooks, Security Service Tribunal secretary, dated. 20
April, I asked him. if the Tribunal, as an allegedly independent body, had
the means to investigate. complaints against MI5 other than asking MI5 to
themselves investigate complaints. To my disappointment,. his reply two
weeks later answered. the question only indirectly, in the
negative. Whatever the. reader might think of the merits of the case I have
been. putting before you in faxed articles this last year and half, you
will surely recognise that it is a significant anomaly for. the Tribunal to
have no independent means of investigating complaints,. particularly given
the view expressed even by previous. home secretaries that the security
services. are untrustworthy.

MI5 Persecution: No Justice for the. Victims of MI5

In a. previous article I detailed the similarities between the current MI5
Persecution in England, and. other historical instances of similar
persecution, notably that by the Nazi Germans in the. thirties and
forties. The. Germans persecuted first the mentally ill, the epileptics and
those suffering from schizophrenia, then. moved on to racial groups; in
todays Britain the persecution is again directed at those with. mental
illness, which. the British in their cowardice find easier than taking on
racial groups as the Germans did.. But just as in Thirties Germany there
was no recourse against a malign and. omnipotent state, so the MI5 Secret
Police in the modern British. Fascist State allow no justice for their
victims.

No. Recourse Against the Security Services Illegal Harassment

It has become apparent to me over the last nine years just how loaded. the
dice are in todays Britain, a fundamentally fascist country. which
masquerades as a democracy. Britain. is a democracy in name only; the
Establishment, the defence and MI5 secret police. are always there,
regardless of. which party has been voted into power most recently - and
from "New Labours" conduct in office one finds it difficult to. tell them
apart from Old Tories, in their crackdowns on the sick and vulnerable. in
society.

In thirties Germany the victims. of the Nazi regime had no legal recourse
against their. State oppressors; and in todays Fascist British state, the
victims of the Establishment and its MI5 Secret Police similarly. have no
recourse against the illegal state-funded and organised oppression.. There
is supposed to. be a mechanism for dealing with MI5 crimes, in the shape of
the Security Service Tribunal. and Commissioner; yet these have never found
favour of a plaintiff. One might as well. ask the Nazi SS to investigate
crimes against epileptics or Jews as ask the Security. Service Tribunal to
investigate MI5 crimes against British citizens; it. is quite obvious what
the answer is going to be,. regardless of what you say to them, and what
evidence you provide. The Tribunal and Commissioner. are a mere formality,
a whitewashing body to give the Secret. Services a veneer beneath which
they. hide their shabby criminality.

"Institutional Racism" and Bigotry in the Metropolitan. Police

The. recent inquiry into the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence found clear
evidence of systematic and deliberate. racism in the Metropolitan Police,
which cannot have surprised anyone. Commissioner Sir. Paul Condon accepted
a somewhat. lukewarm definition of institutional racism as being
"unconscious". In truth, and this truth must. surely be obvious to anyone
who has. any familiarity or encountered the great British police, the Met
has. not just "unconscious" racism, but very clearly "conscious" and
deliberate racism, of the. kind that would have done Thirties Germans
proud. And it is. a bastion of such open racism - when many other parts of
society are learning to. live in a multicultural environment, the Met is
still living in the past. in its attitude to the minorities.

But in addition to the systematic racism confirmed. by the Lawrence
inquiry, there is also something much more. relevant to this case, which is
systematic police bigotry against the physically and mentally. disabled,
which I personally have experienced in my. dealings with the police over
the years. You cannot. expect equal treatment if you are mentally
disabled. I tried to. make a complaint to the police in 1995 about the
harassment I had been subjected to for several. years. As soon as they
found. out I had mental illness, they refused to even talk to me. I tried
again in March 1999; the police made various threats to. me, while ranting
about "your paranoid rubbish" in reference to the complaints. expressed to
them.

The police refusal to do the job they are employed and paid. to do is
extremely. serious, particularly as this case is highly important, indeed
key to the whole issue of British self-perception at. the end of the 20th
century and the. beginning of the 21st century. Britain has lost much in
the last. fifty years - it has lost an empire, it has lost its self-respect
and its identity as a people. If. the MI5 persecution finally makes it into
the light. and the Security Services are seen for the rather cheap bullies
their behaviour indicates, it will have a massive and. harmful effect on
British. self-perception in the new century.

Security. Service Tribunal - Blatant Whitewashing

A few weeks ago. I spoke on the phone to Nick Brooks, the Secretary of the
Security Service Tribunal,. which is supposed to deal with cases of MI5
transgression. I asked. him if the Tribunal had ever found in favour of a
plaintiff. and against the Security Service. He answered that as far as he
knew, it. had not.

I also asked Mr Brooks if the Tribunal had any means. of investigating
allegations of criminal activity by MI5, other than asking MI5. themselves
if. they had engaged in such activity. His rather circuitous written reply
states that the 1989 Security Service. Act provides that "it shall be the
duty of every member of the Service to. disclose or give to the Tribunal
such. documents or information as they may require for the purpose of
enabling them to carry out their functions under this. Act". Which is a
very round-about way of saying - "No" - the Tribunal. has no way of
investigating MI5 crimes. - None At All.

Setting up the S.S. Tribunal, and creating. a Security Service
Commissioner, was really an. act of falsehood by the government. It is
generally recognised that. MI5 are out of reach of the normal criminal
justice system - the police, as we have seen, have no intesot answer. to
the government; in a previous article I quoted. Roy Jenkins speaking of "a
secretive. atmosphere.... secretive vis-a-vis the government as well as
[enemies]", and a. "lack of frankness" from MI5.

If. the government wanted to, it could reform the secret services and
ensure they acted in. conformance with the laws which have been enacted for
them in the last ten years. But apparently the. present government does not
see any need to ensure security service compliance with the. law. As noted
above, the regulatory machinery for. MI5 is deliberately weak; the Tribunal
has no independent means. of investigation, and it is simply a waste of
time. complaining to the Tribunal or Commissioner.

Every so often, fresh. revelations come to light of secret service
transgressions. We have heard from. Shayler that MI5 bugged Jack Straw and
Peter Mandelson; we have heard from Peter Wright. that MI5 plotted to see
Wilson ejected from office; yet. so closed is the system of government that
the law. is never enforced against MI5 when they "bug and burgle" everyone
from politicians to. ordinary citizens.

No Justice from the Legal System,. either

Britain has a civil and criminal justice system which. effectively limits
many complaints from being heard. For. a civil complaint to be brought
before a court, you need a solicitor. willing to act on your
behalf. Supposedly it is possible to represent. yourself as a
Litigant-in-Pthe basis of being "frivolous. and vexatious" or "disclosing
no cause for action in law".. This is exactly what happened to me in 1997
when I twice tried to take the BBC to court for. spying on me in my living
room at home; my case was twice struck. out, and on the second occasion an
order was made against me that I could not. bring further civil litigation
against the BBC without leave of. the court.

As the reader can guess it is. quite impossible for a person with
schizophrenia, who complains about the secret services and. media
interfering in his life, to find a solicitor willing. to represent him in
legal action against the persecutors. I. have quite a lot of evidence of
the continuing persecution which I have posted on the website, even. if the
evidence is quite tentative. and perhaps open to varying
interpretations. But I have tried. several firms of solicitors; some of
them have acted unprofessionally and abused me; all. of them have refused
to represent me. My psychiatrist gave me the. name of the firm of Bindman
and Partners in central London, and I have approached them twice. On. each
occasion. they refused to accept my instructions. Plainly the problem with
Bindmans, which they have admitted,. is their bigotry against mentally
disabled people; yet this is not just something that. is wrong with
Bindmans, it is something that. is wrong with the legal system as a whole,
since the legal system necessitates finding. a solicitor willing to
represent you in order to bring. a case to court, but it does not have a
mechanism for providing. a lawyer in the case where no solicitor is willing
to take on your case. So the British legal system. is such as to prevent
cases such as mine from ever receiving an airing in a. court.

So much. for the civil courts. But the criminal justice system is no
better. Two years ago the. Protection from Harassment Act came into
force. But again, while the Act. is all very well on paper, in practice it
is unenforceable in my case, since it would require. Police action to see
the law implemented, and. if the police cannot even be trusted to conduct a
murder investigation. competently (in the Lawrence case), then what chance
is there of their investigating complaints against the. Security
Service?. Of course, it would be possible for me to personally issue
proceedings through a private prosecution either. against MI5 themselves,
or against one or more of their media tools; but here. we see the same
problems as with the. civil courts, because first of all I would have to
find. a lawyer willing to act on my behalf. Litigants-in-person do exist in
the criminal courts, but the Attorney. General can bring such a prosecution
to an end by taking it over and entering a plea of "nolle. prossequi"; and
I suspect that if I were to bring a private prosecution against either. MI5
or one of their media. tools, then this is exactly what would happen.

So much. for British justice. But if anything the wrongs that have been
perpetrated on me by the British justice system are quite mild. to what
others have suffered. Others have been wrongly convicted based on. police
evasions and lies, and spent many years in jail based. on false charges. I
should count myself lucky that despite the best efforts of. the MI5 secret
police, I have not acquired any criminal charges or. convictions; which
shows that for all their resources. and influence, and the clear
imperfections in the British legal system,. there are still limits on how
much subversion. MI5 can achieve.

The. latest in a long line of injustices

A comment I heard. during the recent scandal of the police mishandling of
the Lawrence murder investigation is that "its not as if. the police
themselves murdered. him". This is not a particularly wise statement to
make about the. case, since it could be argued that the four alleged
murderers were aided in their crime by the expectation. that the police
would deliberately botch. the investigation - which of course is exactly
what the. police did.

But in my case, this would be a completely inaccurate thing. to say - since
the MI5 secret-police have. expressly been trying to nine years now to see
an end put to my life, either. by having me incarcerated and my liberty
ended, or. by forcing self-termination on me. It is exactly as if the
secret. police "themselves murdered [me]", since that is what their aim is
in their campaign against. me.

The public has heard of instances of police mishandling. of cases, of
police manufacturing. evidence, lying in court, extracting false
confessions to. clear up crimes, et cetera. Various instances of
extra-legal activity by the secret services have also. come to light in the
last few years. The unhappy. truth is that what MI5 have been doing to me
for the last nine years is. really nothing out of the ordinary for them. To
me. it seems unbelievable that this sort of systematic campaign of
harassment, which thousands and. thousands of people in this country and
abroad are well aware of, could exist. for such a long period of time with
the media. maintaining "omerta". But my case is not the first such instance
of persecution by. the "British secret police", and judging by the lack of
any real controls. on MI5, I very much doubt it will be the last.

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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 1:25 am
From: ifvifvf@bigfoot.com

MI5. Have Systematically Destroyed My Life

This is getting depressing. From the feedback Ive. received, the recipients
of these faxes are tired of hearing. my complaints, and in truth I am tired
of sending them. The reason I havent. yet ceased sending faxes is because I
cannot. think of any other effective means of replying to MI5s actions
against. me, and I feel I have to do something to try to defend
myself. Three/four. years ago I got the MI5 harassment out of my system by
posting about it on. Internet newsgroups, and for a few months this tactic
was quite effective - I received (and indeed still. do today) support from
newsgroup regulars,. and felt I could make my voice heard and break the MI5
monopoly on access to the British media.. But that was years ago, and today
nobody gives a tinkers cuss about my internet posts -. so I have sought to
escalate matters by communicating directly. with the politicians who
allegedly say how this country is supposed to be. run.

Of course, its quite expensive to keep up a campaign of. fax messages for
many weeks. Each set of faxes. takes approx 50 hours to send over the
weekend, and costs perhaps 35.. My phone bill for the last quarter was
350. These. figures are naturally insignificant compared to what MI5 have
been. spending against me over a similar period. It also takes a lot of
time and energy to create a new article every week, and try and find. new
and fresh aspects and viewpoints. on MI5s persecution of me. I am beginning
to run. out of both new topics and energy to write these articles.

So. I have a suggestion to put before the MI5 persecutors who have been
wrecking my life since 1990. In a few days time I. will be going on holiday
to Poland and Germany, for a couple. of weeks. Previously, almost every
time I have travelled by plane, or gone anywhere on. holiday, the MI5
"wreckers" have been most. assiduous in destroying these trips. My
suggestion is; if MI5 leave me alone on this. next trip, I will cease
transmitting these articles. If, however, there are. any clear instances of
harassment (and I am very capable of recognising MI5 harassment. when I see
it), then I will make public these instances and publish any. recordings I
may make of them, and, unwillingly and unhappily, continue the. articles.

Read about the. MI5 Persecution on the Web

Keith Hill. MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever
refuses. to help.

MI5 Refuse to Allow me to. have a Normal Life

Its kind of difficult to contemplate having a normal existence when. you
know your entire house. is bugged from top to bottom, for audio and, very
unpleasantly, video;. when your employment is systematically destroyed,
over and over again; when every time you leave the country your travel. is
disrupted by MI5 plants on. the plane yelling abuse at you..... you get the
idea. I would like to have some semblance. of a normal life, like my Polish
and English friends. do. But MI5 have made this impossible, and they have
leached massive resources. from the taxpayer to institute a life not worthy
of. the name on me.

A few. years ago MI5 were very open about their aims in persecuting
me. They were shouting "suicide". at me, both in Canada where I lived at
the time, and during. my occasional visits to London. You cant get much
clearer. than that. There have been instances as recently as a few weeks
ago of this intention being voiced by their side; on 15 April 1999,. a
woman at the next ticket counter at the Royal Festival Hall. said;

"it would kill it, you know,. it would just be overkill... they can't stop
can. they"

meaning that "they" were trying to. "kill it" i.e. me and they "cant
stop". The. audio file is at;

I wonder why they. "cant stop". Nobody (who doesnt know already) believes
my claims - so what. difference would it make, if they were to
"stop" persecuting me? Perhaps what this. persons remarks indicates, is the
depth of the obsession MI5. have with this case. They have chosen at random
a person from the. general population, and done their worst to ruin my
life.. What is wrong with these people, that they persecute a national of
the country whose citizens they are. supposed to protect?

No Chance of. a Harassment-Free Job

Since the harassment started in 1990 I have had three jobs, the first. near
Guildford, the second in Oxford, and the third. overseas in Canada. All
three jobs have been systematically destroyed. by MI5. It is so ironic that
MI5 employs a team of agents, each well compensated for their. efforts, to
persecute just one person paid a mere. fraction of what they get for their
"work". In fact, it is a joke that MI5. is allocated resources for this
sort of effort. If this area of government were run. along commercial lines
then MI5 would. be very rapidly closed down, they produce nothing of any
value, instead spending their time. obsessed with the bugging and
surveillance. of their former employees like Shayler, dangerous subversives
like Straw and Mandelson, and "threats to national. security" like yours
truly.

Applying for my first post. university job

When I was applying for my first post-university. job in the closing months
of 1990, I found at two or three job interviews that. MI5 had got there
ahead of me. Interviewers knew what. words to repeat from what had been
said. at my home recently; MI5 had supplied them with words to hurt me, and
the "British secret police" were trying to wreck my job. search and
discourage me from joining the world of work. This and. the continuing
harassment in the media. and by the public meant that the search for a job
took very much longer than it would ordinarily be expected to. take for a
person. with my qualifications.

With. my first job near Guildford came the knowledge that MI5 were doing
everything possible to make. me lose the job. Despite their efforts I
managed to stay in work for ten unhappy months, during which. they made
very clear to me. that they were bugging my workplace, my accomodation in
Woking, my car, my. home..... and they also made clear that they had "got
to" my. employer in Guildford.

Employment. with Oxford

I was able to find a new job, with Oxford Computer Training. Services (now
ARIS/Oxford), quite quickly. But it. became very clear, very quickly, that
MI5 were treating this job the same as. the first; they tried to get the
other employees and in particular the managers. to attack me. It was
plainly MI5s intention that I be sacked. fro this job. But I was not
sacked; instead, after almost a year of abuse from. OCTS managers, I was
forced to seek medical help, and had to take two. months off for medical
leave. OCTS MD Hugh Simpson-Wells was motivated. in keeping me on by the
fear that if he sacked me,. then I would take him to court for the
treatment OCTS managers had meted out. to me during 1992.

Emigration to. Canada

When I emigrated to Canada in 1994, I did think. that perhaps MI5 would
leave me alone, given that I had made the effort. to leave the UK and try
to. find a new life overseas. I could not see any reason why they would
continue to harass me over in Canada. But. clearly the MI5 agents had their
salaries to think about, since continue to harass me. they most certainly
did, at my home in Ottawa, and by getting fellow employees to. speak
against. me, as had happened with previous jobs in the UK.

MI5 are denying me. a future in work

Former Chief Constable of Devon and Cornwall. John Alderson had this to say
regarding MI5's. activities;

"MI5 is not. under the same restraints as the police. They infiltrate
organisations, people's jobs and. lives. They operate almost like a
cancer."

Currently. I am on disability, and I can see that MI5 are denying me a
future in work. It would be. an insult to logic for me to return to work
and find a job, in the knowledge that an entire team of MI5. agents, paid
in total many times what I would be earning, would have the objective. of
seeing me "done down" in the employment, and ejected from the. place of
work. This situation. is completely wrong and nonsensical - I would very
much like to have a job, but MI5 are preventing me from. even thinking
about returning to work. The culture. of secrecy in MI5/MI6 means there is
no objective oversight of their expenditure, when. external oversight and
greater transparency might lead. to wasteful and illogical operations such
as that against me. being shelved.

Watched and Harassed at my. Home and Accommodation

As you will know if you have been reading these articles, MI5. have watched
and harassed me at my home, and at every accommodation Ive had. since
1990. Theyve also watched me. at neighbours houses in London, and at
short-term accommodation. such as hotels and bed-and-breakfasts. They have
used the "words" gained from these watching activities against. me, by
passing these words on to other people such as OCTS managers for. them to
make clear that I am being. watched where I live.

Harassed at rented rooms in. Oxford in 1992

This was at its worst in 1992. in Oxford, where during the week I lived at
rented accommodation in Oxford, and at. weekends returned to my parents
home in London. I. was being severely harassed by managers at my place of
work, OCTS; and it was clear from the things they. said that they were
being supplied by MI5 with details of my home. life, that they were being
supplied with words to. repeat at me.

In 1992 I moved house in Oxford many times,. living at a total of five
rented accommodations. in ten months. In January I started off living in a
rented room at Headington near the ring. road / A40 intersection; then when
it became clear that. house was being bugged, moved to a rented room in
Botley, some miles away. It was at. the house in Botley that I had an
"interactive watching" experience with Martyn Lewis while. he was reading
the news; I threw a term of abuse at. him; he first flinched, then gave a
gsult of. what I had just said, he was no longer "on my side".

So I moved house again. This time to a. place in Cowley, near the Rover car
works, where I stayed for a few weeks. Because of. continuing harassment at
work, I soon moved from this accommodation,. to yet another rented room on
Iffley Road. By this time I. was very ill and being abused continuously at
work. Again, MI5 followed me to the rented room. on Iffley Road, and
created new instances of. "newscaster watching". There was a television in
the room which. I watched, and as you can guess the newscasters got at me
when I was watching. the television. Also once I was assaulted, if thats
the word for. what happened, on leaving the house; a youth grabbed me by
the coat lapels, roughed me up a bit with various. terms of abuse. I did
not report this assault to the police, because what was happening. to me at
work was very much worse, and nobody seemed. to think that that was worthy
of being reported to the police. Later that day at work,. Alex G, a fellow
employee, said "I heard he was. assaulted".... I had not told anyone at
work about the incident that morning..... so. once again it was made very
clear that MI5 were watching my rented accommodation. and giving
information about what was going. on there to managers at work.

So I moved house yet again in late autumn 1992, this time to. a rented room
in a large house on Woodstock Road. I stayed. there for several weeks as
the situation at work. deteriorated due to OCTS managers abuse, until I was
forced to take sick leave from. work for two months and attend hospital as
an outpatient; at which point I gave notice on the room,. and returned to
London.

MI5 continued to harass me. after the diagnosis of serious illness was
made. As reported previously, they harassed me on a flight to Spain. in
December 1992; and in 1993, when I returned to live and. work in Oxford,
they again bugged my rooms, as. well as my workplace, although the
intensity of the. harassment was very much less than in 1992.

Watched,. followed and harassed in Canada

It dismayed me to find that MI5 would not. leave me alone after I had
settled in. Canada. In January 1995 I rented an apartment at the Bayshore
complex in Ottawas west end. For some weeks there was. no sign of the
"buggers". But then it started all over again.. They first bugged my car,
which had a car alarm installed -. the alarm went off two or three times in
a. single evening, and the following day gave a signal that the car had
been broken into. Then they bugged my. apartment, and in particular they
installed bugs on the. phone line in my apartment.

In September 1995 I moved. to a new apartment in Ottawas Bytown Market
area, the restaurant. and entertainment heart of Canadas capital. This
proved. a serious mistake. In the west end I had been fairly distant from
the centre of town where MI5. concentrated their efforts at turning people
against me. In the Market area it was much easier. for the persecutors to
motivate people. to harass me, and over the next couple of years there were
frequent instances of harassment. by the general public.

From 1995 I. had some Polish friends in Ottawa, and as the reader can
guess, MI5 have spent much effort trying to break. up this friendship. They
supplied various things. about my home life to these friends, for example
where I was living in the Market, directly over. the road were the studios
of a music radio station, which you had. to "look up" to see; and MI5 told
these friends that I was "looking up" to see the radio station;. so the
friends then replayed these words back to me,. that I was "looking up". MI5
have also made various sexual slanders against me, and these friends. also
unwittingly replayed some of the words they had been imprinted with by. the
MI5. persecutors.

MI5 Will Never Allow Me to have a. Normal Life

I have heard many excuses as to why MI5 continuously prevent. me from
having a normal life. We are told that. MI5 are defending the country
against. a tere to zero.

When I have travelled abroad, they. always put their people on the flights,
on the journeys. I undertake, to continue the harassment, so that I am put
off further overseas travel, and chained to my home in London. Yet. even
this is illogical, because when I lived in Canada,. they would still put
people on flights back to the. UK.... and what possible reason would they
have for doing. that? Perhaps the truest words to describe the MI5
persecution is that reason. has nothing to do with their activities - sane
people do not behave in the way the MI5 British Secret Police have. been
doing.

Summer. 1999 - more MI5 harassment?

In only a few days time I will be going to. Europe again. This time I have
deliberately chosen to travel. by a non-UK airline; so we will see if they
put. their paid agents on this foreign carrier, we will see if they try to
harass me. on this non-British flight.

If they do harass me on this trip to Europe, or if they. resume the
harassment in London after I return home, then. I will continue to report
their activities in these faxes. As I said at. the beginning of this
article, I would very much like. to not have to send these articles any
more, but that. is not my decision to make - it is entirely up to MI5 to
cease their pointless persecution of me, once and for. all.

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From: mefvemfi@gmail.com

MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 9 July, 1999

Harassment in Poland, July. 1999

And still it continues.... in my last. fax I said that provided MI5 made no
attempts at harassment during my two-week holiday this summer, or. after I
returned. to England, then I would discontinue these faxes. Unfortunately
MI5 have continued to harass me, both during. the holiday and after my
return to London. I really dont. want to continue these articles, since
they take up so much time and effort,. not to mention expense; but the
Security Service wont even let me have. a holiday in peace and quiet, so I
have to make further efforts to bring their. activities out into the open.

In early July. I visited my aunt and her family in Poland. On Saturday 3
July 1999, I went to a. family barbecue at an allotment outside the
city.. One of my aunts family has previously shown himself to be in the
"enemy" camp, by saying the Polish. equivalent of "something wrong with
him",. and various other unprovoked insults. It is disappointing that one
of my. family could forsake the usual ties of blood and take part in the
actions against me,. but thats the way it is. This guy turned up at the
barbecue, and started making. insults against me. In particular, he started
to say something about the video camera which. I had brought along on the
trip,. and the relevance of the video-camera to my fight against the
persecution. It seemed pretty obvious to me. that my enemies had told him
to turn up to. this occasion, and most likely schooled him in precisely
what words to say; since hes an unintelligent person and would. not be
able to think for himself what insults to. make against me.

Harassment in London, week ending Friday 9. July 1999

Got back. to London Wednesay afternoon. Two incidents on the Underground
returning from the airport. Unfortunately I wasnt recording. because I
wasnt expecting trouble, so these slipped. through the net. One of these
was verbal sexual. abuse, of the type Ive heard many, many times before
these last three-and-a-half. years.

Yesterday, Thursday 8/July/1999, I switched on Heart. FM which had never
"got at" me before.... and the presenter started making jokes. about "mad,
crazy" etc. Again, wasnt recording. this because Id never had any trouble
from this radio station and wasnt. expecting any.

Also yesterday, on a bus (155?) from Balham to Clapham, a couple. of girls
started harassing me with taunts of "crazy".. By now I was expecting
trouble and recorded an audio. file of this instance of abuse, at web URL;

The cynical reader might think my demeanour or. behaviour had given rise to
the taunts of "crazy" recorded above. But I assure. you my behaviour on the
bus would not have made anyone think. I was ill; and the taunts the
previous day were the same sexual words as previously; so I'm. quite sure
that these incidents are either deliberately. staged, or indicative of an
overall high level of awareness among the London public,. particularly in
the part of London. where I live.

Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative,. as ever
refuses to. help.

MI5. Persecution: Harassment through the Radio

One of the aspects of the MI5 persecution has been. harassment through the
broadcast and print media; and one of the aspects of. harassment through
the broadcast media is being "got at" by. radio presenters. This being "got
at" from the radio takes various forms, the most obvious. form being
through overt or hidden words and insults.. But there are other, subtler
forms. In Canada. a couple of years ago, I used to listen to the local
radio stations every. morning driving to work, and listened to the music
only, switching between. radio station presets rapidly as soon as a
presenters. voice came on, so that I would not be subjected to any verbal
harassment by the D.J.s. But they found a. way around this; they kept on
playing the same song, every bl**dy morning at the same time, which. had
the words "all. coming back to me"; the perceptive reader will remember
that the words "coming back" have special meaning. (see the Private Eye
cover at web. URL; for the
hidden. meaning).

And thats not the only time theyve. allowed the songs themselves to be used
as abuse against me; many years ago Radio-1. in the UK did exactly the
same, and the. DJ even made it explicitly clear by saying, "dont you
sometimes feel as if the songs were made just for. you".

"We should be done for attempted manslaughter". says Chris Tarrant

Capital Radio DJs have been "in on it" from the. start. One of the first
things I heard in. the summer of 1990 was from a Capital DJ who said, "If
he listens to Capital. then he can't be all bad" (supportive, you
see. We're not bastards). Much of what came over the radio in 1990. is now
so far away the precise details have been obliterated by. time. No diary
was kept of. the details, and although archives if they exist may give
pointers, the ambiguity of what broadcasters said would leave that. open to
re-interpretation.

In spring 1994,. Chris Tarrant on his Capital morning show made an aside to
someone else in the studio, about. a person he didn't identify. He said,
"You know this bloke? He says we're trying to kill him. We should. be done
for attempted. manslaughter".

That mirrored something I had said. a day or two before. What Tarrant said
was understood by the staff member in the studio he was saying it to;. they
said, "Oh. no, don't say that" to Tarrant. If any archives exist of the
morning show (probably unlikely) then it could be found there;. what he
said was so out of context that he would be very. hard put to find an
explanation. A couple of days later, someone at the site. where I was
working repeated the remark although in a different. way; they said there
had been people in a. computer room when automatic fire extinguishers went
off and those people were "thinking of suing for. attempted manslaughter".

Pirate Radio. "gets at" me

In another incident in 1990/91, Id been. listening to a pirate radio
station in South London for half an hour, when there was an. audible phone
call in the background, then total silence for a. few moments, followed by
shrieks of laughter. "So what are we supposed to say now?. Deadly
torture? Hes going to talk to us now, isnt he?" which. meant that they
could hear what I would say in my room. Note the word "deadly" - they. give
away. their purpose.

It constantly surprised me. that MI5 are so easily able to subvert
broadcasters, and, in this case of the. pirate station, to do so, so
quickly. I think the answer to this question is. that they must have very
wide. contacts in the broadcast media; presumably some or in fact many of
those contacts are literally "bought". In. the same way as they tried to
buy Jon Snow of Channel Four news,. they must have bought many broadcasters
and use them both directly to make insults. against me, and promulgate
their points of view; but also, they must. use these "bought" broadcasters
to influence other television and. radio presenters, who might not even be
aware that it. was on MI5s behalf that they were being influenced to "get
at". me.

BBC-Radio-1 D.J.s celebrate my job. termination in November 1991

This is another one from the. "early years". At the beginning of November
1991 my employment in Woking, Surrey was. terminated. Chris Tarrant of
Capital-FM had already made nasty remarks about. both my work for the
company, and the managers of the company themselves. - "so theyre not
really a serious company, well theyd have to be to. employ you wouldnt
they".

So when I was terminated, as you can expect, BBC Radio. 1 D.J.s
celebrated. On the Saturday afternoon (either 9/Nov/1991 or 16/Nov/1991. -
I cannot remember precisely) I. briefly listened to Radio-1 and heard the
disc jockeys. loudly proclaiming "youre useless, you should be sacked". On
the same day, I. went down to the Kwik-Fit in Tooting to get my cars tyres
replaced, and in the office ran into a couple of their staff,. one of them
with an Australian accent, who said "what do you think about. it then? Its
getting killed. on the radio."

Plainly,. if a random car-repair shop in Tooting knew about the
persecution, then many thousands of other. people across the capital and
all. over the country must have known. And the phrase "getting
killed" shows. very clear awareness of what the MI5 Persecutors intentions
towards. me were in 1991, and judging by the continuing harassment, still
remain. today.

Recent Feedback. from Virgin-Radio

As readers will know, from mid-March 1999 for. some four months, every
weekend, I have bombarded Westminster. MPs with faxes about the terrible,
all-encompassing MI5 Persecution. (Jesting aside, it really is. terrible
and. all-encompassing, in the UK anyway.) In June 1999, after I'd been at
it some three months, I started. getting "covert" feedback from Virgin
Radio.

The first feedback I got was from Danny Baker, on. Sunday 13th June. That
weekend. I was sending an article which contained biting criticism of the
police inaction in this case. Danny Baker on his. Virgin radio show started
an angry rant that "he knows it's rubbish", ie. he was rubbishing. what I'd
said in that weekend's faxed article. Unfortunately I wasn't. recording
this. programme.

The next possible Virgin-Radio feedback was. a week later on 19th June
1999. This. is contained in the audio file above, in which Johnny Boy on
his "Wheels. of Steel" programme says;

"and if you would like to put a triple play together, ahhh..... because
quite frankly Hipster and me are running out of. ideas...."

He goes. on to counter Hipster's "how dare you" with a protestation that he
is "only joking". You can listen to this. incident on my website at URL;

What I reckon is that my article faxed to MPs that. weekend was forwarded
by one of the recipients. to Virgin Radio. My article had included the
words;

"I am beginning to run out of both new topics. and energy to write these
articles."

So what I. reckon is that Johnny Boy read the article.... and rephrased the
above line "run. out of ... new topics" to "running out of ideas". I
recognise that this is a. pretty tenuous inference to make.... but do
listen to the audio file, from the "ahhh...." pause in JB's speech. you can
guess he is. about to say something "risky" and at someone's
expense. Anyway, I listen to the Wheels of Steel regularly. and will
continue to do so, recording it as I always. do - so any future funny
remarks will get immortalised on my website! (There was a. previous
incident. from August 1998 which is preserved at web URL;

but I am sufficiently uncertain about it that I have not included it. in
this. article.)

First Ever. Radio Reference - Alan Freeman of BBC-Radio-1

The first time I was ever referred to on the radio was sometime. in May or
June of 1990, by Alan Freeman of BBC-Radio-1.. Note that this isnt an
"interactive listening" episode, its different,. this was Freeman reading
out a letter from one of my. "real life" enemies.

Id acrimoniously broken up with some. former friends in January of 1990,
and I think they were still trying to cause me. trouble in June of that
year. Freeman on his rock. show read out a letter from an "Andrew
Turner"; one of my acquaintances. from January 1990 had been called Andy
Turner, so I. think its the same guy. Freeman quoted Turner as saying
various things about me,. in particular Freeman said "thats a hell of a
letter. you wrote there Andy", "with a schizophrenic you're never alone",
and something. about the "one who wore out his welcome with random
precision" (from the. words of the Pink Floyd song).

When I was looking for primary causes of. the MI5 persecution, this letter
which Freeman had read out on his programme struck. me as being potentially
one of the sources of the persecution. I know. Turner and various others in
that group were very bitter at. what they saw as their failure and my
undeserved success, and they were quite. determined to upset the
applecart. Of course several other primary causes. are possible; I do not
know why MI5 chose me as opposed to someone else, and MI5. are hardly
likely. to tell me.

"Absolute Obscene". David Hepworth of GLR

This one Ive. assigned a 100% rating on the website. There are actually two
separate incidents, which. are linked through the D.J.s choice of
words. The first. incident can be heard in computer audio at web URL;

On 21/Feb/1997, I. was listening to BBC GLR, by stealth. Back in 1990 I
used to. have Capital blaring out of the speakers all over the garden ("if
he listens to Capital then he can't be all bad", thanks ever. so much). But
now I listen on my walkman on. headphones with the volume turned right
down. It could not possibly. be overheard by any listening device, no
matter. how sensitive, because sound does not carry from the phones.

Yet somehow they are still able to tell. which station I am listening to on
the walkman. And. last night, I bravely tuned to GLR 94.9FM at around
8.45pm. Everything went well for the first half. hour or so. Around 9.10pm,
Hepworth said the following after the song. "Come Around" by the
Muttonbirds.

"coming up after this, we got. the rock-and-roll A-level, we have, I
assume, Brian do we have an embarrassment of prizes in. there, we do, don't
we, absolute. obscene amounts of prizes, there will no doubt be a riot at
the back door, and that's,. er, A-level coming up after this"

The key phrases in what he. said are, "EMBARRASSMENT of prizes", and what
he himself emphasized verbally, "ABSOLUTE OBSCENE amount of prizes".. It is
my belief (based on content and tone. of voice) that when he spoke these
phrases he knew I was listening, and that the phrases. refer directly to my
situation. The "EMBARRASSMENT" is the embarrassment he. and other media
people would feel at having their wrongdoing exposed; the. "ABSOLUTE
OBSCENE" (which he verbally. emphasized) described the disgusting sexual
abuse. which the harassers have been throwing at me.

There was a second incident, on 9/May/1997, which may be found on the. web
(with computer audio). at URL;

This incident. again contains the words "absolute embarrassment of prizes",
with the same emphasis as the first instance, and laughter following. the
phrase. So theyre aware of the complaint I made. on Usenet after the first
incident; and they are so arrogant that they. do exactly the same
again. They are so arrogant, they know they. are being recorded and that
what they say will be. published on the web, but they dont care. What
corrupt media, and what a corrupt country to have such. corruption in its
media.

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Three Years of. "MI5 Persecution" Faxes

Ten Thousand. Faxes, and Still No Breakthrough

In. the last three years I have sent at least 5,301 faxes directly from my
computer,. and 4,478 faxes through Demons extremely useful TPC.INT service,
to politicians and. the media, in the subject of the "MI5
Persecution". This has obviously cost me quite a lot of. money, not to
mention time. and effort. The aim of all this communication has been to try
to put discussion of the "MI5 persecution" into the. public
arena; unfortunately, this aim has. not been achieved, yet.

This fax will be my last transmission for the. time being, since the summer
recess is almost. upon us. Depending on what the persecutors do between now
and the autumn, I may or may not resume faxing later this year. In. the
article. dated 18/6/99 I said Id stop the articles if MI5 left me
alone; but they seem to have no fear. of these articles, since they kept
pursuing me in Poland and after my return to. the UK. Again, if they leave
me alone. this summer then I wont have to resume the articles in the
autumn; but I think its fairly obvious that. MI5 have nothing better to do
with their time than to go after me,. and its almost pointless to make this
offer when I. know they wont cease harassing me.

TPC.INT 1996, 1997,. 1998.....

Three. years ago I was living in Canada, and the only economic way of
sending faxes. to the UK was through the international email-to-fax gateway
TPC.INT. This highly useful and totally free service converts. emails
(which may have Postscript-formatted attachments) into faxes which. it
delivers to any number within the UK. Using the. telephone book, I
constructed a computer database of M.P.s. fax numbers, and used this
database to deliver copies of the "FAQ - frequently. asked
questions" article which Id written. some time earlier.

This. service is still operational, but given that I have resided in London
for the last year, I do not need to use Demons service. when I can send
articles directly from my own computer using its fax/modem, which is. what
I have been doing since 1998. However, instead of just sending the. FAQ
article, Ive been composing articles on various. aspects of MI5s treatment
of me. Since their activities have been going. on for nine years now, and
there have been various aspects to their. actions; they have harassed me at
work, at home,. through the media, etc; I have so far not run out of things
to. say, particularly since their harassment of me is still ongoing, and I
have been able to record the actual words used by. their paid agents on my
minidisc-walkman. Since mid-March. 1999 I have been sending these articles
pretty much every. weekend.

Anyway, as mentioned above, I intend this to be the. final transmission
before the. summer recess, and it would be nice not to have to continue
these articles in the autumn. But thats something. that depends on them,
not me, and. their attitude is unfortunately clear.

Why. am I sending these articles?

Because I. want the harassment to stop. The cynical reader might think from
these articles that I "thrive on adversity". and would be lost without the
harassment to complain about; but that is not the case. In a perfect. world
I would like to return. to work, in a job unsullied by MI5s attempts to
ruin it; I would like to. live in a house which wasnt bugged, with my words
being repeated at me wherever I go; I would like a normal life. I. do not
particularly thrive. on adversity; I am beaten down by adversity; the
purpose of these faxes is to try to bring the whole. matter out into the
public arena,. where the rights and wrongs would be visible to all, and
once that were to happen, the adversity might cease. I have. had something
approaching a normal life a couple. of times in the last nine years, but
always, in the end, MI5 turn up and. ruin it. I just want these people out
of my life, permanently, and the only way of doing that is. to kick this
business into the public arena, and shame. MI5 so that they are incapable
of doing me further. damage.

Having said that, unfortunately. it seems fairly obvious by now that these
faxed articles are not going to. achieve that aim. Some of the recipients
know what I am saying is true; but they. choose to stay quiet - wisely,
because if they were to admit the truth. of these articles, then they would
bring the wrath of MI5 down on their heads.. Presumably most recipients do
not know these articles are true; their reaction to me. is the same as my
reaction to the other apparently deluded people who. have sent me email
after. reading my webpage to tell me it happened to them too; the reaction
being, "leave me alone, I dont want to know".. Its sad that many M.P.s have
given me this reaction, because my case genuinely. is different; I
genuinely am telling the truth,. and the harassment genuinely is happening
to me, and some recipients of this fax know this to be. true.

"Write. to your own M.P."

My local M.P. is. Mr Keith Hill, Labour-Streatham. He refuses to have
anything. to do with me. He refuses to represent me, he refuses to talk to
me, he has. told me not to communicate with him. He has done absolutely
nothing. to help me, and he has told me he will do absolutely nothing to
help. me.

Other M.P.s, recipients of these faxes, have for quite some time. been
telling me, "write to your own M.P.". On 23 March 1998, Paul. Burstow
M.P. wrote to me; "Whilst. I take the issues that you raise seriously,
there is. a strict Parliamentary convention that one Member of Parliament
does not take up anothers casework. Can. I suggest that you write to your
own M.P. at the House of Commons?" . Hopefully the above paragraph will
make clear that I have written to my own M.P. and. he has proved unhelpful.

Other M.P.s have told me the. same thing. On 21 May 1998, John McFall
M.P. told me, "... there is a. parliamentary convention that M.P.s do not
take up cases of people not in their constituency..... therefore can. I
suggest that you write to your local M.P. who will be. better able to
assist you." And on 8. June 1998, Michael Foster M.P. wrote to me that
"M.P.s are inundated. with unsolicited faxes .... M.P.s have a considerable
amount of. constituent work to deal with, thus other M.P.s constituents
cease to be. of concern in so far as they should have a voice and
representation".

Simon Hughes. M.P. wrote to me on 5 November 1998, "There is a strict
parliamentary convention which. states that I am not able to represent
individuals who are not constituents of mine. My. advice is that you find
out who your own. Member of Parliament is rather than circulating your
story to all M.P.s.". To my suggestion that Keith Hill. M.P. was doing
nothing to help me, George. Foulkes M.P. sent the following faxed
response; "If Keith Hill. your own M.P. cannot help no-one else in the
House of Commons. can." But it is clearly not a case of "cannot" help, but
"will not" help. I have detailed in letters to Mr Hill. specific ways in
which he could help me, first. of all by finding a lawyer to represent
me. It is Mr Hills job as a Member. of Parliament to represent his
constituents; if he chooses not to do so, then it reflects badly. on him.

Kate Hoey Sympathises,. but says, "Write to your own M.P."

Here. is part of a letter Ms Hoey sent to me on 15 June 1999.

I appreciate that you have concerns about the persecution and. harassment
that you feel you are experiencing but I note that your MP is. in fact
Keith Hill. There is a. very strict Parliamentary code which means that
M.P.s can. only take action on matters that relate to their own
constituents. I am aware that you are not. happy with the fact that you do
not feel Mr Hill will assist you but I am afraid. that I cannot take any
action on your. behalf.

Ms Hoey plainly belongs in the camp. of people who do not know about the
reality of the "MI5. Persecution". She doubts its existence; "the
harassment you feel you are. experiencing". She urges me to see Mr Hills
assistance, as have other M.P.s detailed. above.

Really, the fact. that I am unable to obtain assistance from any other
M.P., if my own alleged "representative" Mr. Hill chooses not to represent
me, is a very basic weakness in. the Parliamentary system. Beinggmainly
events at. my former employers in Oxford during 1992, when I was harassed
constantly by manager Steve Mitchell for most of 1992, and was. forced to
begin attending hospital. as an outpatient as a result. This harassment was
obviously of Mitchells. own volition, since I observed him harass similarly
another new. worker two years later; but it was also at MI5s instigation,
since they kept providing him with words from my home life which he. then
proceeded to abuse me with. Yet this is not. the only employment that MI5
have destroyed; the MI5 persecution has lasted from the. end of my student
days until the present time, during which I have. had three jobs, all of
which have been in various ways destroyed. by MI5s deliberate actions.

In. March 1999 I decided to try to force the issue once and for all. Ever
weekend for the last four months, apart from two weeks when I. was on
holiday, I. have sent original articles by fax directly from my computer to
Westminster politicians. Here is a summary. of the articles of the last
four. months;

How. to Identify the Persecutors

Their use of Schizophrenia to discredit my. claims
Comparing the MI5 Persecution with. German "Final Solution"
MI5 are Plainly Trying to Kill. Me
MI5 Waste Taxpayer Millions on. Pointless Hate-Campaign
Four Years. of "MI5 Persecution" Posts on Internet Newsgroups
MI5 Agents are. Clinical Psychopaths
BBC Newscasters Lior the Victims of. MI5
MI5 Have Systematically Destroyed. My Life
Harassment through the. Radio

To my deep. worry these fourteen faxed articles have still not achieved the
objective of kicking the matter out into the public arena and forcing. an
admission either from the persecutors,. or from those "in the know", which
includes some. M.P.s.

I dont really know what. else to do to try to bring the "MI5
persecution" out into the open. I would. have expected that these weekly
faxed. articles would have had some effect, but the only result has been
M.P.s telling me to contact my own representative Mr Hill. who refuses to
talk to me.. I understand the convention that M.P.s deal with their own
constituents and. not those of other M.P.s, but there seems to be a gap in
the process since it allows your own M.P. to. refuse to deal with you, and
then you. are totally denied any representation at all.

Conclusion

The only conclusion I can inform the. readership of these articles of, is
that there is no conclusion to this matter,. yet! Three years of
intermittent articles, and four months of faxes. every weekend, have been
absorbed by some of the most powerful. people in the country, to no effect.

Whether these articles continue in the. Autumn is entirely up to the
"opposition". I offered them a cessation of complaints if they. would leave
me alone on holiday in June/July, and they went. right ahead and harassed
me anyway, on holiday and after I returned to London. If MI5 cease. their
activities now, then I wont. have to continue these faxes in the
autumn; but I suspect they wont cease, which. means youre in for more
articles later this year. "There. will be no conclusion."

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MI5. Want Me to Send You these Faxes

MI5 seem to Want to. Spin this Business out for as Long as Possible

The MI5 persecution has now been going on, starting. from June 1990, for
well over nine years. If I knew how to. put an end to it then I would do
so. Of course. MI5 have indicated how they wish to finish the matter, by
finishing me off; they. indicated this very clearly years ago when they
were. shouting "suicide" at me.

But a deeper truth is that the MI5 agents carrying. out the persecution
rely on it. for their income and their livelihood. They have absolutely no
interest in anything other than spinning out the whole business,. because
that. is how they will maximise their earnings from their employer for the
"work" they. do against me.

A vital part of the fantasy structure MI5 have. created about me is that I
am somehow a worthwhile target. If you bother to read these faxes, if. you
browse. my website, or perhaps read my posts on the uk.misc newsgroup, you
will have by now. twigged that I am a totally insignificant person who in a
proper dictatorship like East Germany. would not merit five minutes of
Stasi time. But Britain. is improper in the methods of its corruption, and
the Security. Service seeks to present me as being a an evil fascist, an
evil communist, an evil something-else, and even a "national. institution".

It. occurs to me that to some extent I am playing into their hands, into
their scheme of things, by writing these articles. and sending these
faxes. By doing these things,. I elevate my profile, and fuel MI5s paranoid
obsession with me. But to stop sending faxes would be. to give up the only
hope I have of seeing their campaign "outed" and justice done.. Certainly
there is. no point going to the police again; and as remarked in a previous
article, the Security Service Tribunal routinely whitewashes. every
complaint that. is placed before it.

So although MI5 seems to want me to continue sending these. faxes, doing
this is the only real chance of getting. this business out into the
open. And so Ill continue trying. to kick down their house of cards. At
least my situation is less serious than that of some. other victims of the
secret services; unlike. Shayler I am not broke and exiled; unlike Fayed I
have not lost a son to the posited activities of the secret. services. All
I. have lost is some of my health, some of my life, and some of my possible
career.

MI5s Abuse. of me is without Cause or Reason

It constantly. puzzles me that MI5 refuse to leave me alone, wherever I go
and whatever I do,. or rather, whatever I dont do, since Im not a very
socially. or otherwise active person. When I am in England, they chase me
all over the place, and once theyve. found me, they pay people to shout
rude words. at me. When I am in Europe, they again chase me all over the
place, and as usual pay people to shout obscenities at. me. When I am in
Canada or visiting. the States, they faithfully chase me all over the
place, and when they find me, pay people to shout. obscenities at me.

It is hard to avoid the conclusion. that these MI5 operatives who chase me
are total lunatics. You. will remember from a previous articles the
assessment. "MI5 Agents are Clinical Psychopaths". They have tried to blame
me for what they do. and what they say; yet their lies have been
wafer-thin, and are clearly seen to be. oiled by the money which they
acquire from the Government,. and ultimately from the taxpayer.

They have tried various lies to put the blame. on me; "we have to abuse him
because hes. a nutter", as if there werent many tens of thousands of other
people with schizophrenia in the. United Kingdom. Their choice of abuse
words is. telling; subconsciously perhaps they realise that it is they who
are the "nutters", and they. try to project their own illness onto their
target.

MI5 Operatives have Nothing Else to Do With Their. Time

Ive seen the same "Alan Holdsworth" person three or four times. over a
period of several years. I saw him at the Civic. Hospital in Ottawa in the
Emergency Ward, where he falsely. declared his name to be "Tad"; at Ottawa
airport in. summer 1998; and on board another flight in 1995.

So what we see from the. above paragraph is, the same people are delegated
to watch me for many years. Without me,. they wouldnt have a job. They
literally have nothing else to. do with their time, except indulge their
voyeurism against me. With this observation, we come to the. core of MI5s
campaign against me; these. people are not fit for any job other than the
exercise of voyeurism against me, and. if sanity were to land on MI5 then
they would be out of a job. If sanity were truly to. land then these people
and their. employers would be prosecuted for offences under the Protection
from Harassment legislation, which they are. clearly breaking.

It is one of the ironies of their. campaign that MI5 have been trying to
make. me an object of ridicule for completely trivial things I have done,
while MI5 themselves have simply. not mentioned how ridiculous is their own
behaviour and that of broadcast media journalists, in spying. on me while
they read the news for example. If the. whole truth of this business is
ever exposed, and despite all my efforts it. still seems there is a block
on its exposure in Britain, then the. rights and wrongs will be clear to
all, and no. amount of MI5 lies will be able to change that. MI5 presumably
do realise just how damaging such a revelation would be. both to
themselves, and to broadcast media such as the BBC. and ITN, because there
has not been even the slightest chink in the. armour, despite four and a
half years of my complaints on internet newsgroups and by fax. to
politicians. and the media.

MI5s Final Kick in the Teeth to. the British State

For someone like myself born in the late sixties it. seems peculiar to
think. that Great Britain once used to have a say in the destiny of foreign
peoples in. far-off sections of the globe. Modern Britons tacitly accept
the. lowering of their country to a third-rate power reliant on the United
States for what little say it has. in the world. A third-rate power, now
"reverse-colonised" by third world peoples it once ruled and. riven with
internal problems so severe the government hardly dares acknowledge. them.

To this third-rate power the. MI5 secret police are delivering the final
kick in. the teeth through a campaign of persecution which is guaranteed to
hold the state. up to ridicule throughout the world when it is finally
exposed. As a "thought experiment" suppose. the French or the Spanish
security service had done. to one of their own born citizens what MI5 has
done in this country. Suppose say the. Spanish had planted hidden cameras
in his home, for the. perverted pleasure of their state television
newscasters, just as hidden cameras have been placed. in my home for the
perverted pleasure of Martyn Lewis, Nicholas Witchell. et al. Suppose the
Spanish service had for nine years. been trying to force suicide on their
target; at times, so blatantly. that they shouted the word "suicide".

Now suppose they were. caught.

Of course, as long as MI5 arent caught,. theyre laughing. The psychopathic
security service agents gets. their kicks from shouting abuse at me; the
newscasters, Lewis, Witchell etc get their jollies, "it. was so funny", we
were watching. this bloke and he couldnt do anything about it.

But once theyre. caught, the sky falls in. Of course, the
"patriotic" MI5-funded. media in Britain will try to put the best spin on
the MI5/media activities; it was the targets fault, of course. But. most of
the world bears no allegiance to Britain. If this business is ever. exposed
then a weakened Britain will. become the laughing-stock of the world. And I
promise you, the security services persecution of me will be exposed.. MI5
has delivered a final kick in the teeth to the British. state, and I will
do everything I can. to ensure the world hears about what they have done.

Metropolitan Police Refuse. to Investigate the MI5 persecution

I have on a couple of occasions tried to motivate. the police to
investigate MI5s actions against me. On each occasion they have. refused to
do so. In 1995 I went to. my local police station and spoke to an officer
there; he refused to accept my complaint, and. seemed interested only in
seeing me leave the station as. quickly as possible.

Earlier this. year I had some communications with Det.Sgt.Richards of
Charing Cross police. Again I asked him to deal with MI5s actions. against
me. Unfortunately DS Richards conformed. to the negative stereotype of the
bigoted, ignorant "copper"; he said, "I. have read your various bits on the
internet. I'm afraid. there is no substance or credence to it. It's an
absolute load. of rubbish. I don't investigate rubbish. I can't be more
blunt or to the point. than that."

You have to wonder at the state of law enforcement. in Britain. If the
victim of a murder is black,. as happened in the Lawrence case, the police
deliberately botch the investigation. If. the victim of a crime is mentally
ill, and the perpetrators are the secret services, as in. my case, then the
police refuse. to even begin to investigate the crimes
committed. Politically Britain is a third-rate country, but from. the point
of view of obtaining. justice, Britain ranks down there with third-world
countries. You almost feel that. MI5 and their media buddies would not even
have any shame if their activities. against me were exposed; after all, why
should they? they have the money, they have the control, OK. so perhaps
theyve broken. a few dozen laws, but doesnt the fact that the police are
too corrupt to investigate these crimes, doesnt that prove. that in fact no
crimes. have been committed?

I should say again what I have said earlier in this article.. My losses
over the last nine years have. not been as great as those of other victims
of British Secret Police malefaction.. Fayed lost his son to their
murderous activities; in my occasional communications. with former MI5/MI6
employees I have been informed that a "permanent. solution" is not uncommon
for opponents of the British secret police.. I have lost health and
financially, but am. obviously well enough to keep fighting my case. Others
have lost much more than I.. If the joke which is British "law
enforcement" refuses to enforce laws against. the security services then
that is something that is recognised. in other countries and Britains stock
correspondingly falls. Not that it has very far to. fall; the days when
England had any say in the world are. long gone.

MI5 Want. These Faxes to Continue

Before the holiday, I said. that if MI5s harassment of me stopped, then I
would cease my complaints. They have. known very well that if they
continued to. harass me then I would resume the fax campaign in the
autumn. Yet they have not stopped persecuting me. Recently. a woman outside
my domicile screamed her head off with abuse. in the direction of my
window;. and on Saturday 2 October, when I was shopping at a nearby
supermarket, a man shouted the particularly vile sexual swear word which. I
have heard. many times before over the last few years.

MI5s attitude shows complete arrogance. Yet it. also shows that they want
the faxes to continue and deliberately. try to provoke me into sending
further faxes.. The reasons for this are given in the first paragraphs of
this article; the MI5 operatives who persecute. me have nothing else to do
with their time; to make their campaign, against an apparently. unreacting
target,. have some value, they have to force me to react in some way
against their actions; and by reacting in this. way, by bringing their
campaign to the attention of British politicians, I. play into their hands,
by giving their campaign the attention and. importance which they feel it
deserves.

In the short term, by sending these faxes, perhaps. I am doing something
they want me. to do, but in the longer term it is undoubtedly more in my
interest than theirs for their activities to. be exposed. If their
operatives truly do wish. to see these faxes continued then they are
committing a serious mistake, because. it significantly increases the risk
if M.P.s (some of whom already. know about MI5s activities against me) are
advised of my side of. the story.

I will continue to monitor and. record the secret services activities
against me over the next few weeks. If they diminish and. cease, as I hope
they will, then I may be able to call a. halt to these faxes; but that it
something which is. entirely up to them; recently their continued
harassment makes clear that they do wish. the faxes to continue, and in all
sincerity I do think they. will continue their activities and make it
impossible for me to cease these. faxes. It may trouble you to receive
these articles, but it troubles me much more to be on. the receiving end of
a national. persecution campaign; and while Britain does not have free
speech. provisions as does Canada in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,
and the US. in the first amendment to the constitution, in practice I do
not think anyone is going to try. to have me locked up for speaking the
truth. I still cherish the hope that. the veracity I express will be shown
for what it is, and that the truth will. prevail and make me free.

Removing the Mask of Anonymity from. the MI5 Operatives

Undoubtedly one factor encouraging the MI5 agents actions against. me has
been the. fact that they can shelter behind a mask of anonymity while they
carry out their abuse. This is. both a sign of their realisation that their
actions are. criminal; for crimes are harder to pin down and make a
coherent complaint about when. their perpetrators are unknown; and it is a
sign of their cowardice, since they lack the backbone. to say things to my
face themselves; instead they almost always. rely on third parties to carry
out the actual. acts of abuse.

On a few occasions I have seen the perpetrators, but. on each occasion they
have managed. to preserve their anonymity. They travelled on the same
British Airways flight. as me in 1994; but BA have ever since refused to
give up the passenger list for the flight, and the police and. lawyers have
proved useless in obtaining their. identities from the list. Also one of
them followed me into. A&E department of Ottawas Civic Hospital a couple of
years ago, and gave his name as (if I heard. correctly) "Alan
Holdsworth"; but. the doctor refused to give out his identity when I later
tried to speak. to him.

If only we knew the identities of the individual operatives, then it. would
be possible to find. out the identity of their employing organisation. But
I think we know the latter already,. since I have been accusing them on
internet newsgroups for. four and a half years now, and they have never
denied my guess. Indeed, when I was travelling. in January 1996 back to
Ottawa, two youths on the (British Airways again,. unfortunately) flight
made a lot of noise at. me, one of them saying to the other that I "didnt
know who we are". That is a wafer-thin denial; I had. been saying for a
year that. they were MI5, so a stronger denial would be necessary if my
guess. were truly mistaken. I think the lukewarm denial was worse than no
denial at. all, since it confirmed my guess that the employing agency was
indeed. MI5.

Conclusion

It has been suggested to me that by sending these. faxes I could be making
trouble for myself; but I dont. think so. My psychiatrist knows what I am
doing; indeed I have given him a couple of these articles for him to. cast
an. eye over.

I dont want to have to send faxes for the next year, or. the year after
that. But that is entirely up to MI5. If they. continue to persecute me
then I am forced into defending myself. The ball is. in their court, and it
is entirely up to them what they do.. If as I suspect it is their intention
that these faxes continue, if that is. what they insist will happen then so
be. it.

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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 3:20 am
From: sandy58

On Dec 30, 10:01 pm, Doc <docsavag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 30, 4:48 pm, Al Bundy <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > If they dried out the first time, why do you think they won't do the
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>
> I imagine they would eventually, but it's been probably 6 months to a
> year since they were last used. I recall they stayed good for a while
> before that.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 3:39 am
From: mfvmfmi@lycos.com

MI5 Persecution. Update: Friday 31 March, 2000

22,544 Faxes Delivered in Three. Years, and Still No Breakthrough

In the last three years I have sent at least. 22,544 faxes to recipients in
the UK, of which at least 13,974 have gone to Westminster.. Last weekend
alone I. sent 832 completed faxes to politicians, the media and various
others, on the subject of. MI5s mistreatment of me these last ten years.

I believe some of the. recipients know of MI5s actions against me in the
last decade; yet they maintain strict "omerta" in fear of. the security
services. persecution actions being made public.

MI5. Insist that these Faxes must Continue

Between September 1999 and mid-January 2000, the persecutors, whoever. they
might be, mostly. left me alone. I counted only three incidents in almost
five months - which is a lower rate than at. any time since June 1990, when
this. business started.

By leaving me alone for several months,. the "oppressors" were making an
implicit assurance that they would continue to leave me alone. in the
future. On 11 January I posted to an. internet newsgroup accepting what I
saw as their. assurance of no further harassment, stating that I would
cease sending these faxes - which is. the only thing I do in my defence -
if they continued to leave me alone.. And for two weeks I did indeed
refrain from distributing these. articles.

But MI5 acted. in bad faith. From the last week of January until the
beginning of March, they resumed their hate campaign against me. with a
vengeance. They even put people in my. road three times in February, one
instance of which I. recorded. They resumed their normal behaviour of
bugging my phone and house,. listening to where I would go, and then
placing people. in that location to "aggravate and annoy" me.

What MI5 did. in February is plainly a contravention of the Protection from
Harassment Act 1997, since it. has caused me "alarm and distress" as
specified in the Act. But. it is a waste of time going to the police with a
complaint,. since the police have done, and will do, absolutely nothing. I
complained to the Metropolitan Police in 1995, and they refused to. take my
complaint. When I complained again in. 1999, the detective sergeant laughed
at my complaint, with the words, "It's an absolute. load of rubbish. I
don't investigate rubbish. I can't be. more blunt or to the point than
that." It is useful to remember that the Met also treated. Stephen
Lawrences parents with similar discourtesy; police prejudices are. similar
in my case, so I can take. some comfort from that case and hope that one
day I will get. a fair hearing.

MI5 acted in bad faith, but they. also acted with arrogance. They do not
care if. I send 800 faxes every weekend, since they know I cannot prove my
claims,. and the recent Shayler case shows how weak external oversight is
of the secret services. But they acted with more. than arrogance - the MI5
agents actually want my faxes to continue, they insist that. these faxes
continue, since my communications give them. an excuse to continue their
activities, and continue in the paid. employ of the secret service. Despite
their use of diverse proxies over. the last ten years, it is the same MI5
officers. behind the campaign all the time - I have seen one of them on
three occasions in Canada over a period of years, and it is a safe. belief
that that same person continues to be paid for his "work" in. harassing me
in London. now. The average cost of an MI5 employee is some 75,000 per
annum, so one may infer that their officers are amply. compensated; their
insistence that "hostilities" are maintained is understandable when. placed
in. this light.

11884

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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 4:04 am
From: mifimef@bigfoot.com

MI5. Persecution Update: Friday 7 April, 2000

22,544 + 837 =. 23,381

Last weekend I delivered another. 837 faxes to politicians and the media on
the subject of the. security service conspiracy which has destroyed my
life. This brings the total in the. last three years to at least
23,381. These totals do not include partially delivered. faxes.

Some of the recipients of. these faxes must know that what I say is
true; and I hope to motivate those people to acknowledge. the reality of
the harassment. which has followed me for ten years. It takes much time to
transmit these articles, but as OCG MD Simpson-Wells said to me in. 1992,
you have to be a good communicator if. you are to succeeed.

Harassment in February. 2000

Following a quiet period of almost five. months, the persecution resumed
with a vengeance in late. January/February 2000. At this time I was at home
in Clapham, London and was a relatively. easy target for the
persecutors. They have my house bugged,. for audio and I believe video in
some rooms as well; so they can find out easily where. I will be going on a
particular day, and place. people in that location to mouth words of abuse
at. me. (I know the last sentence sounds like classic paranoia, but it
happens to be true, and some. of the people reading this know it to be
true.)

On Friday 11. February 2000 I went shopping in Croydon, to buy a watch at
H. Samuels jewellers in the Whitgift Centre. While. I was there two youths
came into the shop, one of them quietly. uttered an obscenity at me, and
they immediately walked out. They showed no interest in the. shop.

That Sunday I met with a. friend in Clapham, who started needling me about
"do you know anything. about the CIA and FBI?". Rather unsubtle, and
worrying considering Ive known this guy for 20 years.. From the words and
demeanour of this "friend" and others in February, I saw that. the
persecutors have again. been trying to separate from me what remains of my
social. life.

Incidents in. my Road in February

MI5 very rarely place people in my home road to. harass me, but such was
their persecutory fervour in February. that they did so on three separate
occasions. On the first. such occasion, I was met my two youths who,
grinning, said a deeply offensive sexual obscenity at me. - at which I
coughed at them, so they called me a "wanker". This. incident is safely
recorded on minidisc-walkman, but because. of the offensive nature of their
abuse the. recording will not be made public.

Another incident very early in the morning of Sunday. 20/Feb/2000 occurred
outside my. home, following an evening in Croydon with some
schoolfriends. Again there. were two youths - for some reason the
persecutors always travel in twos or threes, very. rarely is there just one
of them - perhaps they need a group to. bolster their courage, perhaps just
one of them wouldnt have the guts. to say something unpleasant. One of the
youths said quietly, and bitterly, "shitty,. very shitty".

Anyway, in March there were no further incidents near my. house in in my
road, and our neighbours are very well disposed towards us, so let us. hope
that the. current quiet continues.

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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 4:54 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote:

>>>... Do you know the "lighting technology geek" method of rolling your
>>> eyes while looking at one?
>>
>>No. How does that work?
>
> I don't know how many people actually do or know that one, but I have
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>
> I look at a lamp, then roll my eyes up and down, and I see the streak
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>
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So far, I can't see what you see. The Society of Building Science Educators
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