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Monday, February 18, 2008

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TOPIC: plastic knives
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 6:49 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<ce82207d-dd07-4b77-8981-4f5a35e0602f@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
bob@coolgroups.com wrote:

> Why can't I buy a package of plastic knives without spoons and forks
> in it?

I don't know. All the grocery stores in my area sell them.

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TOPIC: ? for landlords
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 7:32 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

how do you vet your tenants?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 8:04 pm
From: George Grapman

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> how do you vet your tenants?
>
>
I read some advice once. It said most landlords check the tenants
current landlord and if they get good feedback they stop. What they
forget is that it might be a problem tenant and the landlord is eager to
get rid of them. Therefore it pays to go to previous landlords.

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TOPIC: Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 8:02 pm
From: "Edwin Pawlowski"

> Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:

>>In fact, we feel we're possibly doing it *better* than a plumber might, at
>>least in terms of raw material. It seems to us (unsubstantiated opinion)
>>that a plumber might tend to maximize his *time* and not necessarily the
>>quality of the materials - unless specifically asked to by the homeowner
>>(who must correspondingly be willing to pay for the extra parts cost and
>>labor).
>>
>>Bill is in his final shower as we speak. The gas is off.

Thee are some codes as to what materials can be used. I doubt your job will
be better.

We're waiting to hear the results though. Bill should have taken his
"first" hot shower hours ago.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 8:35 pm
From: "hallerb@aol.com"

> I don't expect to replace appliances (vacuum cleaner, dish washer,
> stove, refrigerator, washer, dryer, toaster, etc) until they are �in
> need of repair. �It's at that point when I typically determine if its
> cost effective to replace or repair (typically it's best to toss at that
> point). �I also wait for light bulbs to burn out, etc. � My three lawn
> mowers each last about 15 years... till they died.
>
> What other items do you replace on a regular basis?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have repaired machines my entire life, i am 51 my vans are mid 90s
but try to maintain them I dont buy new vehicles. I prefer to fix non
critical appliances

mostly i have 2 of everything so when one breaks i use the back up.

2 washers, 2 dryers, 2 vans, 2 lawn mowers, spare tools, spare
everything. if it werent for space i would have 2 hot water tanks, and
2 dishwashers

my basement where the hot water tank lives is my shop for my business,
i sell and service office equiptement.

so i really dont want a basement full of water even a foot would be
bad, and the moisture ruin inventory.

having had a hot water tank fail on christmas eve, in a snow storm
with family coming to stay i would much prefer to replace a tank early
in the morning on a spring day:)

warm dry comfy. no stress.

now lets look at the economics of tank replacement:)

DIY a 400 buck tank thats replaced in 8 years nets a cost of 50 bucks
a year.

thats less than a decent candy bar a week...........

plus the new tank has better efficency and doesnt boil when heating.
my current tank has started doing that......... wife doesnt like the
noise, it can be heard upstairs.

did you know a person who buys a brand new mid priced car every 5
years, in a lifetime spends about $250,000 just on new car purchase.

now does my 400 buck purchase compare?

incidently we have some tough to get at light fixtures here, when one
bulb burns out i replace them all. I prefer all fixtures to have
multiple bulbs, when one burns out theres still enough light to see

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 10:34 pm
From: "James Sweet"

>
> This has been a very informative thread. I didn't appreciate that our
> 15-year old water heater (61 gallon - State / 0.55 ER) is likely on
> borrowed time. The first one in our home was replaced after just 8 years
> (previous owner). As someone pointed out, now is probably a good time to
> start researching a replacement.

All this talk about water heaters and I came home today to find I had no hot
water. Went out to the garage and found a puddle around the heater and the
flame was out. Fortunately it seems this time it was just a leaking joint on
the flex pipe but it's a reminder that I need to start looking at
replacements.

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TOPIC: Colour & Cosmetics
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Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 8:34 pm
From: xikom01@yeah.net

Many people avoid artificial colours in their foods, but don't check
out the colours in cosmetics and personal care products. It is only in
recent years that cosmetics have started to carry a full list of
ingredients on their packaging.

Making sense of the ingredients can be difficult for the lay person.
This is particularly true for colourings, which often go under the
guise of numbers rather than names.

In many countries colours in cosmetics are listed as colour index
numbers. C.I. numbers are allocated by the Society of Dyers and
Colourists. The scheme covers colours used in food, personal care
products, cosmetics, household products and fabric dyeing. So, for
example you will not normally see 'tartrazine' listed in your lipstick
ingredients, but it may be there listed as C.I. 19140. Erythrosine
will be listed as C.I. 45430, and so on.

The USA uses a different system: the FD & C colors have been
categorised by the American Food & Drink Administration for use in
foods, drugs and cosmetics. So in this system tartrazine is FD & C
yellow 5, and amaranth is FD & C red 2.

The 'E Number' system is used by the European Community (EC). This is
a system of giving code numbers to food additives, some of which are
also used in cosmetics and personal care products. This system is also
used in some other countries but without the E prefix, so E102 becomes
simply colour '102'.

All this confusion for the average consumer would not be important,
but for the fact that some of these colours are known to cause
problems in susceptible individuals. For example, tartrazine (also
known as FD & C Yellow 5, CI 1914 and EI02) can cause migraines,
itching, rhinitis and agitation in susceptible individuals. Many
individuals avoid its use in food, but do not realise how extensively
it is used in cosmetics, such as lipstick, and personal care products.

The big worries in terms of colours in cosmetics and personal care
products are lipstick, coloured lip balms, lip gloss and lip pencils,
because anyone who uses these regularly

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Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 9:14 pm
From: "Ace"

<haber14@lycos.com> wrote in message
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TOPIC: How many therms (natural gas) do you use per day (per month)?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 9:51 pm
From: BEGINcornelius@decuserve.orgEND (George Cornelius)

In article <13rfk3vco5aba0c@corp.supernews.com>, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> writes:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> What is therm? Here in Alberta measurement is by the Giga Joule.

At last! Someone using a rational energy unit.

> By definition it is 100,000 BTU's. Blame the British and their Thermal
> Units!

In fact, the BTU is one of the best of the British (actually now just
American) units. It's 1055 Joules, but as a rule of thumb you can think
of it as a kJ.

But having different units for every single energy source is just nuts.

Who else uses the therm, roughly .1 GJ, but the U.S. Gas industry?

www.oilnergy.com lists natural gas prices in MMBtu, where MM=1000*1000
or one million. That's pretty nice, just about the same thing as a GJ,
so we and the Canucks can actually think we are talking the same language.

[And MMBtu ~= MCF, so we have a three-way match]

--
George Cornelius cornelius ( A T ) eisner.decus.org

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