Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 15 topics

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

==============================================================================
TOPIC: working from home for the next 5 weeks?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2e946a2a773f633a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 6:56 pm
From: "Lou"

> Sal_55 wrote:
> > On 27 Mar, 22:20, "mart2...@hotmail.com" <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 27 Mar, 21:31, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm ill, and can't leave the house at all for the next 5 weeks or
> >>> so. So I'm interested in knowing if anyone can tell me of any ways
> >>> I can work from home for this period of time? I have done a quick
> >>> search of the web and already I'm getting the impression that there
> >>> arer a lot of scam sites offering work to people desperate for
> >>> extra money. So I'm looking for genuine work only. Also, I don't
> >>> want to sound too greedy, but I'd obviously prefer jobs which are
> >>> high paying than low paying jobs.
> >>> This might sound weird, but I know those companies which offer
> >>> people money to allow them to take part in clinical trials of new
> >>> pharmaceutical drugs, require all people testing drugs to be
> >>> healthy. But I can't even leave the house due to a broken bone. But
> >>> are there any companies which allow people to be tested with drugs
> >>> at home? Alternatively,are there any other products which I can
> >>> test at home and be paid for testing them? Please don't laugh if
> >>> that is too stupd a question.
> >>> Thanks for reading this and bye.
> >>
> >> Can buy and sell on ebay.
> >> Not so sure about the high paying bit - there are several I can think
> >> of but all take longer than 5 weeks to set up and get going to more
> >> than cover costs.
> >> Still, if you have the right skills, some employers will pay for work
> >> done.
> >>
> >> Writing articles for magazines is profitable. But can you write well
> >> enough to be noticed in the slush pile?
> >>
> >> Martin <><- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Putting modesty to one side, I am quite quick-witted with a sharp
> > tongue. But that's a symptom of my depression. I can write good
> > english and amuse ppl,but I don't want to. Because that'll be the
> > depression talking. Most ppl won't understand what I just wrote. Ppl
> > who're clinically depressed often become very witty. Just as blind ppl
> > develop acute hearing. I don't really know the reason,maybe it's a
> > defence mechanism of sorts.
> > I like the idea of buying and selling on ebay a lot. On laptop
> > computers I can imagine making 40 pounds on each laptop won't be too
> > hard. But how do I take the laptops to the post office,with my broken
> > foot?
> > Sorry for sounding so damn lazy,but what I'd really like is to have
> > some pharmaceuticals injected into me, and then in 5 weeks time, I can
> > go to the Clinical research companies headquarters and have the
> > necessary blood tests, and be paid.
>

What's the deal - are you in traction or something else that totally
immobilizes you? How do you get to the bathroom, the dinner table, the
horizontal surface your computer is sitting on so you can type these posts?
Ever hear of a wheelchair or crutches?

I work in the clinical trial field, though not at testing sites. Some
trials require you to be sick - they're testing drugs/devices that hopefully
will make sick people better, after all. Some early stage trials require
you to be healthy - they're checking to see what doses can be tolerated, how
long they stay in the body, and possible side effects. Some trials last
only a day, some for weeks, months, ...

Most trials are pills, not injections. Ones that are injections or IV's
generally are a series of injections or IV's. For the ones that use healthy
subjects where the drug "half-life" is being checked, they take a blood
sample every 30 minutes or so for several hours.
I've never heard of one where they come to your house.

Yes you get paid (if you follow instructions), but you'll never get rich
being a test subject. I've never heard of a trial where the
doctors/technicians/whatever come to your house.

And just as an aside, my sister has a broken foot and is still wearing a
boot and using crutches six months after the event. She's raising three
kids, keeping house, and going to work every day. Oh, and going to the
doctor, who says everything is progressing right on schedule.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Un-insulated water heater tank by woodstove!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a42916fb887669dc?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 5:38 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:24:43 -0500, "S. Barker"
<ichasetrains@coldmail.com> wrote:

>Kind of like PIN number and
>
>NIC card
>
> and
>
>VIN number and
>
>CDL license. and and and.... the list is endless.
>
>lots of dumasses, I've even seen "PIN number" on official bank documents
>and such.

It is the way the language develops. If you want to pedantic, how
many times have you seen 72 point type advertising-

BABY SALE!

... or such obvious idiotic hyperbole from major metropolitan
newspapers as-

"All the news that is fit to print"

or spaceships splitting infinitives -

"to boldy go where no man has gone before"

There is a reason for the usenet rule of not commenting on spelling
and grammar. It wastes time and drains energy from the actual topic
being discussed. We've all done it, but at about one or two thousand
posts into using the medium, most of us realize that it is
non-productive and more annoying than the original gaff.

The tempering tank idea is an old one. In my Pop Mechanics
encyclopedia, one is shown being hung from joists in a cellar, near an
old coal burning furnace. Sometimes tanks like this sweat, and can be
a problem in the living space.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 7:54 pm
From: "Edwin Pawlowski"

<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
> Because water that doesn't contain heat is ice.
>

But not all ice is absent of heat. Unless the ice is at absolute zero.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:25 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Bill wrote:
> Then I placed this tank next to my woodstove. Then disconnected the cold
> water going to my hot water heater and ran that to the bottom (drain)
> connection on the tank by the woodstove. Then ran a pipe going out the top
> of the tank by the woodstove to the cold water inlet of my electric hot
> water heater. (Cold into the bottom, warm out the top.)
>
> Note: My electric water heater is located on the other side of the wall next
> to my woodstove.
>
> After just a few hours, the water coming out of the top of the tank by the
> wood stove was about 70 degrees. (The water from the city going into the
> tank is 40 degrees F.) At this point the bottom of the tank felt cold and
> the top was not cold.
>
> The next morning, the entire tank was slightly warm.

Overall, I think this is a good idea that might save energy if, as
someone else has pointed out, wood is cheaper source of heat than
electricity.

There's only one thing that I'd want to verify: what kind of germs
are going to grow in water that is above 70F but below the temperature
of a regular water heater's tank? They say one reason not to turn
your water heater's thermostat too low is that the lower temperatures
encourage germs to multiply. If that's true, it seems like this
might apply to the tank next to your wood stove.

Of course, I'm not an expert in germ growth or anything. It's just
the one possible hitch that I can see, and so far nobody else has
mentioned it, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

- Logan

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Nike Air Jordan Retro 1 beginning momens NFL Jersey China wholesaoe
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c57e2ba4041c8f2?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 4:45 pm
From: shoeshive4@yahoo.com.cn

www.shoeshive.net Wholesale R3 Wholesale R4 Wholesale NZ Wholesale R5
Wholesale Monser Wholesale OZ Wholesale Nike Trainers Wholesale Air
Rift Shoes Air Max 87 Air Max 90 Air Max Ltd Air Max 95 Air Max 97 Air
Max 2003 Air Max 360 at www.shoeshive.net Air Max Tn Nike Air Max 180
Nike Dunk SB Nike Men Dunk Low Nike Men Dunk High Nike Dunk Woman Nike
Kids Shoes Nike Air Jordan Boy Shoes Nike Air Force Ls at www.shoeshive.net
Nike Air Max Timberland Boots Timberland Kid Boots at www.shoeshive.net
Timberland Mens Boots Womens Timberland Boots Puma Trainers Womens
Puma Shoes Puma Mens Shoes Louis Vuitton Sneakers Louis Vuitton Shoes
Nike Athletics Nike LeBron James 4 IV Nike Timberland Dunca & Misc
Nike Air Foamposite Pro Nike Kevin Garnett Signature Nike Slow Track
Shoes Nike Zoom Nike Boot Bapesta Shoes Bapesta Sneakers Adidas Adidas
Star Adidas Superstar 35 th at www.shoeshive.net

Annivers Adidas
Adicolor Adidas NBA Adidas City at www.shoeshive.net

Prada Sneakers
Wholesale Prada Shoes High Cut Prada Gucci Wholesale Shoes Low Cut
Gucci Sneakers High Cut Gucci Sneakers Gucci Woman Football Shoes Nike
Football Shoes Adidas Football Shoes Ugg Boots Women Ugg Slipper Ugg
Woman Shoes Dsquared Shoes Wholesale Mens Dsquared Sneakers Mauri
Wholesale Shoes Sneakers Mauri Womens Shoes Wholesale Designer Womens
Sandals Boots For Womens Nike Woman Shoes Women Air Max Shoes Nike Air
Dordan Woman Shoes Dolce Gabbana Shoes Dolce Gabbana Sneakers Hogan
Shoes Sale Cheap Hogan Sneakers Versace Sneakers at www.shoeshive.net
Versace Shoes Wholesale Ed Hardy Sneakers Ed Hardy Wholesale Paciotti
4 US Paciotti 4 US Shoes Armani Shoes Wholesale Armani Sneakers
Lacoste Shoes Lacoste Trainers Burberry Shoes Burberry Wholesale Shoes
Boss Shoes Wholesale Greedy Genius Sneakers at www.shoeshive.net
Greedy Genius Shoes Chanel Shoes Chanel Shoes Sale Cross Sandals Cross
Sandals Converse Sneakers Converse Shoes Richmond Sneaker Richmond
Wholesale Sneakers Just Cavalli Shoes Just Cavalli Shoes Dirk
Bikkembergs Sneakers Shoes Dirk Bikkembergs at www.shoeshive.net

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Are sunrooms considered in the square fotage of a home for real estate
tax purposes?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/17d6a24937afcfc1?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 4:50 pm
From: Kompu Kid

I asked this elsewhere but no answers yet.

I am also wondering if and when a workshop gets included in the sq.
footage.

Any comments?

On Mar 27, 10:16 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Helo All:
>
> My aunt is considering a sunroom for her home. She asked me to
> research and find out how the county would treat the additional square
> footage covered for real estate taxes.
>
> She lives in San Jose Ca (Santa Clara county).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 5:00 pm
From: DerbyDad03

On Mar 28, 7:50 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I asked this elsewhere but no answers yet.
>
> I am also wondering if and when a workshop gets included in the sq.
> footage.
>
> Any comments?
>
> On Mar 27, 10:16 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Helo All:
>
> > My aunt is considering a sunroom for her home. She asked me to
> > research and find out how the county would treat the additional square
> > footage covered for real estate taxes.
>
> > She lives in San Jose Ca (Santa Clara county).
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Deguza- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

re: I asked this elsewhere but no answers yet.

I'm guessing the one place you didn't ask was the county offices of
Santa Clara.

What things gets taxed (and how) in the county of Santa Clara, CA is
probably very different from what things get taxed in (and how) in
Athens County, OH or Yates County, NY or Orleans Parish, LA..

You'll get the most accurate answer directly from those that do the
taxing.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 6:21 pm
From: gfretwell@aol.com

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Kompu Kid
<deguza@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I asked this elsewhere but no answers yet.
>
>I am also wondering if and when a workshop gets included in the sq.
>footage.
>
>Any comments?
>
>
>
>On Mar 27, 10:16 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Helo All:
>>
>> My aunt is considering a sunroom for her home. She asked me to
>> research and find out how the county would treat the additional square
>> footage covered for real estate taxes.
>>
>> She lives in San Jose Ca (Santa Clara county).
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Deguza

Where I live they count everything but at different rates. (SW
Florida). You can go look at the property assessor web site to see
this in action

leepa.org

do a database search on some common name and walk up and down the
street (next higher/lower strap number).
If you look at "details" near the bottom of the page it will show you
the floor plan they use to assess.

I bet there is a similar site for your area. BTW if you are a privacy
person this may be scary.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 6:59 pm
From: TD

DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote in news:fe046590-bdd0-4f1f-9d7f-
f158ee0ecd19@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 28, 7:50 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I asked this elsewhere but no answers yet.
>>
>> I am also wondering if and when a workshop gets included in the sq.
>> footage.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> On Mar 27, 10:16 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Helo All:
>>
>> > My aunt is considering a sunroom for her home. She asked me to
>> > research and find out how the county would treat the additional square
>> > footage covered for real estate taxes.
>>
>> > She lives in San Jose Ca (Santa Clara county).
>>
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> > Deguza- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> re: I asked this elsewhere but no answers yet.
>
> I'm guessing the one place you didn't ask was the county offices of
> Santa Clara.
>
> What things gets taxed (and how) in the county of Santa Clara, CA is
> probably very different from what things get taxed in (and how) in
> Athens County, OH or Yates County, NY or Orleans Parish, LA..
>
> You'll get the most accurate answer directly from those that do the
> taxing.

The accessor counts if it's heated. My basement and ground floor enclosed
porch (not heated) and garage are not counted.
Me thinks DerbyDad is on the money with his answer.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: The Definition
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/01325490a4f876e9?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 5:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Neil Hopkins <neil_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
>>> äÓãÉ ÇíãÇä wrote:
>>>> What does 'Islam' mean? Islam is not a new religion, but the same
>>>> truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people;
>>>> Islam is both a religion and the complete way of life. Muslims
>>>> follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness. The Arabic
>>>> word 'Islam' simply means 'submission', and derives from a word
>>>> meaning 'peace'. In a religious cont ext it means complete
>>>> submission to the will of God. 'Mohammadanism' is thus a misnomer
>>>> because it suggests that Muslims worship Muhammad (peace be upon
>>>> him) rather than God. 'Allah' is the Arabic name for God, which is
>>>> used by Arab Muslims and Christians alike.
>>>>
>>>> Islam is not Just for Arabs. The Truth of Islam is meant for all
>>>> people regardless of race, nationality or linguistic background.
>>>> Taking a look at the Muslim World, from Nigeria to Bosnia and from
>>>> Malaysia to Afghanistan is enough to prove that Islam is a
>>>> Universal message for all of mankind --- not to mention the fact
>>>> that significant numbers of Europeans and Americans of all races
>>>> and ethnic backgrounds are coming into Islam
>>> Islam means violence and hate to me. That's the truth of it.
>>
>> Corse there never ever has been any violence or hate with Xtians, eh ?

> All religions are a cancer on the human psyche.

Sure, but some are much worse on violence and hate than others.

> Believing in things that aren't there is never a good thing.

Thats arguable. It can be a viable crutch for those with pathetically inadequate 'minds'

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:28 pm
From: Logan Shaw

نسمة ايمان wrote:
> What does 'Islam' mean?

If I had no information other than this post to go on, I would say
that Islam is the religion of people who post spam to newsgroups.

Probably Islam is more meaningful than that, but you should take
a look at how your behavior reflects on your religion.

- Logan

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Punishing the frugal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/28a507f3067a6cb4?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 6:29 pm
From: "Lou"

"PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5gtlu3pbdpth6qjdmjpn54junt9q4qjhsa@4ax.com...
>
> Reminds me of a Dear Abby letter from the 70s. This guy did all the
> right things like doing without so that he could put aside enough
> money for his two daughters' education fund. When time came for
> college he found the daughter couldn't qualify for a student loan
> because she had money in the fund. Meanwhile the neighbor who had a
> very similar income level as our guy lived it up with annual holidays
> to exotic places , etc. When college came of course they had no
> savings and their daughter did get a student loan.;

I half-remember that (or a similar) story. It's maybe not quite as ironic
as it sounds - a loan, after all, is not free money. After all, people here
for years have been advising paying cash for a car instead of being so
foolish as to take out a loan. Assuming the parents paid for the loan, then
one family paid up front and one family paid after the fact. If the student
paid for the loan, then one family shifted the cost of college from the
parents to the child.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 6:35 pm
From: "Lou"

"Dennis" <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q5vnu3p3fk2g6jnmq3pi23de2akpbn4685@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:38:31 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
> <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 26, 6:22 pm, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:17:20 -0600, timeOday
> >>
> >> <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What, you were prudish enough to buy a home you could afford when
poorer
> >> >people were buying nicer houses they couldn't? No bailout for you! Now
> >> >you get to pay your own mortgage *and* help out the more "ambitious
> >> >consumers" amongst us sustain their lifestyle.
> >>
> >>
><http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/26/news/economy/bailout/index.htm?postve...>
> >>
> >> Reminds me of a Dear Abby letter from the 70s. This guy did all the
> >> right things like doing without so that he could put aside enough
> >> money for his two daughters' education fund. When time came for
> >> college he found the daughter couldn't qualify for a student loan
> >> because she had money in the fund. Meanwhile the neighbor who had a
> >> very similar income level as our guy lived it up with annual holidays
> >> to exotic places , etc. When college came of course they had no
> >> savings and their daughter did get a student loan.;
> >
> >Couldn't agree more! Same with taxes (same income but lower mortage
> >debt equals less write offs).
>
> Personally, I'd rather have the money on hand to buy something (like
> an education or a home) than to have the government provide a partial
> subsidy of interest payments so I could take out a loan for it. I
> know that some can use the latter to advantage, but I still prefer the
> former.
>
Yeah, it would be nice to have enough money to buy whatever you
wanted/needed without having to worry where the money was coming from. Most
people don't make enough to simultaneously pay rent and save enough to buy a
big ticket item like a house - to essentially double their shelter expenses
for however many years it takes to accumulate those savings. Especially not
early on, when income tends to be low.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/06f3de4f97ec1f1e?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 6:22 pm
From: happy_life0011@hotmail.com

In The Name Of Allaah,

Most Gracious, Most Merciful

YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN
MUHAMMAD
(May peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him)
You may be an atheist or an agnostic; or you may belong to anyone of
the religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may be
a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter what you
are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs, personal
and social habits happen to be - YOU MUST STILL KNOW THIS MAN!

He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this
earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid
down a moral code, initiated numberless social and political reforms,
established a dynamic and powerful society to practice and represent
his teachings, and completely revolutionized the worlds of human
thought and action for all times to come.

HIS NAME IS MUHAMMAD, peace and blessings of Almighty God be upon him
and he accomplished all these wonders in the unbelievably short span
of twenty-three years.

Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him was born in
Arabia on the 20th of August, in the year 570 of the Christian era,
and when he died after 63 years, the whole of the Arabian Peninsula
had changed from paganism and idol-worship to the worship of One God;
from tribal quarrels and wars to national solidarity and cohesion;
from drunkenness and debauchery to sobriety and piety; from
lawlessness and anarchy to disciplined living; from utter moral
bankruptcy to the highest standards of moral excellence. Human history
has never known such a complete transformation of a people or a place
before or since!

The Encyclopedia Britannica calls him "the most successful of all
religious personalities of the world". Bernard Shaw said about him
that if Muhammad were alive today he would succeed in solving all
those problems which threaten to destroy human civilization in our
times. Thomas Carlysle was simply amazed as to how one man, single-
handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most
powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades. Napoleon and
Gandhi never tired of dreaming of a society along the lines
established by this man in Arabia fourteen centuries ago.

Indeed no other human being ever accomplished so much, in such diverse
fields of human thought and behavior, in so limited a space of time,
as did Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him. He
was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, a political
thinker, a military genius, an administrative colossus, a faithful
friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father -
all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in
any of these difficult departments of life.

The world has had its share of great personalities. But these were one
sided figures who distinguished themselves in but one or two fields
such as religious thought or military leadership. None of the other
great leaders of the world ever combined in himself so many different
qualities to such an amazing level of perfection as did Muhammad,
peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him.

The lives and teachings of other great personalities of the world are
shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the
time and the place of their birth, the mode and style of their life,
the nature and detail of their teachings and the degree and measure of
their success or failure that it is impossible for humanity today to
reconstruct accurately and precisely the lives and teachings of those
men.

Not so this man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him. Not only was he born in the fullest blaze of recorded history,
but every detail of his private and public life, of his actions and
utterances, has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to
our day. The authenticity of the information so preserved is vouched
for not only by faithful followers but also by unbiased critics and
open-minded scholars.

At the level of ideas there is no system of thought and belief-secular
or religious, social or political-which could surpass or equal ISLAAM-
the system which Muhammad peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him propounded. In a fast changing world, while other systems have
undergone profound transformations, Islaam alone has remained above
all change and mutation, and retained its original form for the past
1400 years. What is more, the positive changes that are taking place
in the world of human thought and behavior, truly and consistently
reflect the healthy influence of Islam in these areas. Further, it is
not given to the best of thinkers to put their ideas completely into
practice, and to see the seeds of their labors grow and bear fruit, in
their own lifetime. Except of course, Muhammad, peace and blessings of
God Almighty be upon him, who not only preached the most wonderful
ideas but also successfully translated each one of them into practice
in his own lifetime. At the time of his death his teachings were not
mere precepts and ideas straining for fulfillment, but had become the
very core of the life of tens of thousands of perfectly trained
individuals, each one of whom was a marvelous personification of
everything that Muhammad peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him taught and stood for. At what other time or place and in relation
to what other political, social, religious system, philosophy or
ideology-did the world ever witness such a perfectly amazing
phenomenon?

Indeed no other system or ideology secular or religious, social or
political, ancient or modern - could ever claim the distinction of
having been put into practice in its fullness and entirety EVEN ONCE
in this world, either before or after the death of its founder. Except
of course ISLAAM, the ideology preached by Muhammad, peace and
blessings of God Almighty be upon him which was established as a
complete way of life by the teacher himself, before he departed from
this world. History bears testimony to this fact and the greatest
skeptics have no option but to concede this point.

In spite of these amazing achievements and in spite of the countless
absolutely convincing and authentic miracles performed by him and the
phenomenal success which crowned his efforts, he did not for a moment
claim to be God or God's incarnation or Son - but only a human being
who was chosen and ordained by God to be a teacher of truth to man
kind and a complete model and pattern for their actions.

He was nothing more or less than a human being. But he was a man with
a noble and exalted mission-and his unique mission was to unite
humanity on the worship of ONE AND ONLY GOD and to teach them the way
to honest and upright living in accordance with the laws and commands
of God. He always described himself as A MESSENGER AND SERVANT OF GOD,
and so indeed every single action and movement of his proclaimed him
to be.

A world which has not hesitated to raise to Divinity individuals whose
very lives and missions have been lost in legend and who historically
speaking did not accomplish half as much-or even one tenth-as was
accomplished by Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him should stop to take serious note of this remarkable man's claim to
be God's messenger to mankind.

Today after the lapse of some 1400 years the life and teachings of
Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him,
have survived without the slightest loss, alteration or interpolation.
Today they offer the same undying hope for treating mankind's many
ills which they did when Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God
Almighty be upon him, was alive. This is our honest claim and this is
the inescapable conclusion forced upon us by a critical and unbiased
study of history.

The least YOU should do as a thinking, sensitive, concerned human
being is to stop for one brief moment and ask yourself: Could it be
that these statements, extraordinary and revolutionary as they sound,
are really true? Supposing they really are true, and you did not know
this man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him or
hear about his teachings? Or did not know him well and intimately
enough to be able to benefit from his guidance and example? Isn't it
time you responded to this tremendous challenge and made some effort
to know him? It will not cost you anything but it may well prove to be
the beginning of a completely new era in your life.

Come, let us make a new discovery of the life of this wonderful man
Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him the like of
whom never walked on this earth, and whose example and teachings can
change YOUR LIFE and OUR WORLD for the better. May God shower His
choicest blessings upon him!

Written by S.H. Pasha

==============================================================================
TOPIC: BEST PRICE !!! china wholesale AF1 x jordan 4 5 23 fusion shoes
timberland ugg boots gucci lacoste prada sneakers
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bc042765b0eff264?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 7:34 pm
From: myshoesbiz98@yahoo.com.cn

WE WWW.Thenikeshoes.NET wholesale cheap gucci shoes,cheap gucci
sneaker,discount gucci shoes,Custom gucci shoes,Authentic gucci
sneakers,discount gucci sneakers,customized gucci sneakers,gucci
shoes,sneakers outlet and online store.gucci sneakers distributor.
cheap Gucci sneakers,shoes discount Gucci
sneakers,shoes china customize custom shoes sneakers trainers outlet
factory urban clothing,Hip Hop Clothes,urban wear distributor
wholesale gucci BAGS;wholesale gucci handbag;wholesale replica gucci
puse
China Wholesale Chanel Handbags Gucci Handbags manufucturers,
factories
Mens Gucci High Top Sneakers
Mens Gucci Low Top sneakers
Gucci mens Fashion shoes
Gucci womens shoes
Gucci womens boots
Womens Gucci High Top Sneakers
wholesale Air Jordan Force 12 Fusions
Air Jordan V x Air Force 1 Fusion
Nike Air Jordan Force XII Fusion
Air Jordan XII x AF1 Fusion
Nike AIR FORCE 1 AIR JORDAN V fusions
Nike Air Jordan XII Fusions
Nike AF1 Air Jordan Fusions wholesale
Nike Air Jordan Fusions XII Mid
Men's Nike Air Jordan Fusion XII Mid
Air Jordan "Fusions": AJ XII x Air Force 1

Sell Air Jordan 12 fusion sneakers
Air Jordan 5 (V) x Air Force 1 (One) - Fusion
Air jordan 12 air force one 1 fusion
Air Jordan fusion XII china wholesaler www.thenikeshoes.net

gucci men shoes,cheap gucci shoes,men's gucci shoes,gucci shoes for
men,women's gucci shoes
GUCCI SHOES FOR CHEAP PRICE www.thenikeshoes.net
cheap gucci sneakers china www.thenikeshoes.net
cheap women prada american cup sneakers

==============================================================================
TOPIC: TV Converter Box Coupon for Sale
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/926dd647a485f42f?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 7:34 pm
From: jrudoy@yahoo.com

TV Converter Box Coupon for Sale. Takes $40 off payment for TV Converter
Box to get digital TV signal on analog/old TV. Valid to 5/27/2008. $28/bo

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:19 pm
From: George Grapman

jrudoy@yahoo.com wrote:
> TV Converter Box Coupon for Sale. Takes $40 off payment for TV Converter
> Box to get digital TV signal on analog/old TV. Valid to 5/27/2008. $28/bo
Wow! $28 for something that is being given away.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:35 pm
From: George Grapman

jrudoy@yahoo.com wrote:
> TV Converter Box Coupon for Sale. Takes $40 off payment for TV Converter
> Box to get digital TV signal on analog/old TV. Valid to 5/27/2008. $28/bo

http://www.wcpo.com/content/news/localshows/dontwasteyourmoney/story.aspx?content_id=f971849b-585b-4a2f-a707-adc46fed0eeb

Gerard Catapano of Consumer Reports says "the Government has set up a
program to help people buy a digital Convert Box, by offering a 40
dollar coupon to purchase a box."

Just call 888-DTV-2009..or go to www.dtv2009.gov.

Your coupon should
arrive in a couple of months.

So stay informed, so you don't waste your money.

I'm John Matarese.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: recording shows if using analog - digital converter box
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/60b97400b1596c25?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:22 pm
From: aemeijers

Logan Shaw wrote:
> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
>> dh says there may be a problem with ntsc boxes. something about
>> being able to record only the show you're watching.
>
> First of all, I assume you are talking about a digital television
> tuner box. These are actually digital to analog converters, not
> the other way around, and they have a tuner in them as well.
>
> Second, it is likely that the box will only be able to tune in one
> program at a time, especially since as far as I know, all the boxes
> have only one output of each type.
>
> This doesn't mean you'll only be able to record the show you're
> watching. You just need a tuner for every program you want to
> tune in at a single time. If you're going to tune in one program
> to watch it and another program to record it, you'll naturally
> need two tuners. I don't think I'd call that a problem, though;
> it's just what the boxes are: tuners that tune in one program
> at a time.
>
> - Logan
Shrug. That is why, even though I live alone, I got 2 converter boxes.
If the satt feed is down, or there happens to be 2 things I want to
watch at the same time and neither happen to be carried on satt
(actually possible, since my satt locals only include half the OTA
stations, and the locals they carry like to pre-empt stuff for sports),
I'll just set up one to to the VCR, and watch the other.

About one more price hike, and satt will be going bye-bye anyway. Only
signed up with them because even entry-level comcast got beyond my gag
point, price-wise.

--
aem sends...

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Violence at Black Funeral Homes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/28cc4fc6f3328351?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:31 pm
From: DonnaGiorno@excite.it

> On Mar 28, 1:32 pm, pres <afamrep...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.afamreport.com
>
> > Clarence Glover has a surveillance camera in the chapel of his funeral
> > home. Joseph Garr sometimes carries a revolver in his hearse. Carl
> > Swann Jr. is contemplating leaving the business. The three directors
> > of black funeral parlors here have been assaulted at services and each
> > has had gunshots fired during burials.

Isn't it just like a nigger to chimp out at a funeral?

Gun control laws were created by the jews for 1
reason: Disarm White America so the jigs take over.

Donna

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Frugal term-life insurance???
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/50510abfe419b80f?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 8:47 pm
From: "pepita@prodigy.net"

On Mar 28, 5:01 pm, Al Bundy <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote:
> I went to work for a company, and recently found myself without a job.
> > Through the company, I paid $7.98 every week, for $100K policy. I called to
> > get a quote on continuing life-insurance, they want a whopping $39.60 per
> > 1K coverage per year. It comes out to almost $4K per year.

Something seems way off here. Try calling a local "independant
agent" at one of the insurance agencies in your area and get some
quotes from them, or go look at Select Quote and figure something
yourself...
We just bought some term life insurance for my DH last year. 40 year
old non-smoker, we got a million and a half dollar, 20 year policy
(the rate won't change for 20 years) for just about $1000 per year.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Surviving in New York on 99 cents
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3504240fa7698ae2?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 9:03 pm
From: The Real Bev

Donna wrote:

> George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dining&oref=slogin>
>
> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great around here and
> often carry really inferior products. I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.

The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I guess) area
carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not exclusively), a
variety of name-brand sausage/hotdog products, fresh vegetables and
fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the Philippine banana sauce was pretty
bland, but wotthehell) and a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and
deodorant as well as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning
supplies. Like Fry's, you could live in a 99-Cents-Only store :-)

http://www.99only.com/

I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance cards alone are
worth the price of admission.

--
Cheers,
Bev
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
"We're from the Government. We're here to help."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 10:26 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
> Donna wrote
>> George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote

>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dining&oref=slogin>

>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great around here and often carry really inferior products. I'm
>> thinking NYC has more to offer.

> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I guess) area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but
> not exclusively), a variety of name-brand sausage/hotdog products,

Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.

> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell) and
> a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and deodorant as well as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning
> supplies. Like Fry's, you could live in a 99-Cents-Only store :-)

> http://www.99only.com/

> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance cards alone are worth the price of admission.

You're better off with voip.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Fecklessness
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d10fa80690ae600a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 9:05 pm
From: Chuggmy_Juggawhizz@yahoo.com

On Mar 28, 11:19 pm, ShawnHirnsG...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 28, 10:15 pm, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <3d9c461b-5bbe-4961-afd6-fc015495a...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > The BIG N <ni...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > With no real rhyme, reason, or purpose, the ineffective Troll Shane
> > > still plods along with his feeble, futile, and aimless net-patter.
>
> > > Sad when such an abnormal need for attention surpasses the
> > > understanding of the essence self-worth, self-respect, and a little
> > > dignity.
>
> > And what's your "rhyme, reason, or purpose" for perpetuating your lies?
>
> Proof????
> Why SURE
> The things LIARS say
>
> "For you to twist that into claiming a protective effect of smoking
> is
> dishonest. Further, that study looked at one disease; lung cancer.
> Smoking and secondhand smoke are associated with my diseases such as
> emphysema which were not addressed in the study you cited."
>
> How's that emphysema doing?
> Cat piss helping any?
> How bout a lil trash fire scarecrow?
>
> Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!
> border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
> local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!
> not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:25:01 -0600
> From: Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.smokers
> Subject: Re: Secondhand smoke
> References: <srhi-28C28D.00081030012007@newsgroups.comcast.net>
> <epnbp9$9e...@aioe.org>
> <1170162076.987098.16...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>
> <1170182313.101414.299...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> <srhi-85CFD2.22560730012...@newsgroups.comcast.net>
> <a2c0s25903lp2hfbhbvbfv50d8v363c...@4ax.com> <MN1wh.
> 13240$Cg1.4...@bignews8.bellsouth.net>
> <tud1s2duu4lk4bc2nnb9kjqndq3186f...@4ax.com>
> <6eSdnQe_xpi-617YnZ2dnUVZ_rSjn...@rcn.net>
> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X)
> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:25:00 -0500
> Message-ID: <srhi-F6830D.20250003022007@newsgroups.comcast.net>
> Lines: 51
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.44.34.241
> X-Trace: sv3-aCZSKtoaENQuDsvtlVXwCGBEZCrnHgJK9nRqKQ7oPRughBc3VFquh/
> SvrbagFywjIoKJWtb2wn/roMf!R4nVLAjPUpVJ66g4T91PiHEmM/
> sTrqnCgZTc58U4r1+EdiGguRjiDcouosgirmkGVRO5jjrgzyJG!RRSrqbWFERqZYQ==
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@comcast.net
> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: d...@comcast.net
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your
> complaint properly
> X-Postfilter: 1.3.32
>
> In article <6eSdnQe_xpi-617YnZ2dnUVZ_rSjn...@rcn.net>,
>
>
>
>
>
> nightlight <nightlight.s...@skip.omegapoint.com> wrote:
> > Robert wrote:
>
> > >>The WHO tried to blame the results on a small sample size. However, in
> > >>the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, where the results were
> > >>published, the researchers clearly state: "An important aspect of our
> > >>study in relation to previous studies is its size, which allowed us to
> > >>obtain risk estimates with good statistical precision..."
>
> > >>"http://www.davehitt.com/facts/who.html
>
> > > That site has a link to full text of the report.
> > >http://www.obscurious.co.uk/componants/smoking1440.pdf
>
> > You might wish to replace that link with the one to the original JNCI
> > site which published that study and which also has the full (and free)
> > PDF copy of the paper. Otherwise, the antismoking trolls having no other
> > good argument will distract any discussion on this study by dragging in
> > and arguing against whatever else (UFO, consipiracy theories,...) is
> > posted at that "obscurious.co.uk" site, as if the study discussed were
> > published by them (which is probably a front staffed or ran by
> > provocateurs with the sole job to discredit, by association, whatever
> > fact those paying them don't wish to be seen as reputable).
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > "Multicenter case-control study of exposure to environmental
> > tobacco smoke and lung cancer in Europe."
> > J Natl Cancer Inst. 1998 Oct 7;90(19):1440-50.
>
> > Boffetta P, Agudo A, Ahrens W, Benhamou E, Benhamou S, Darby SC, Ferro
> > G, Fortes C, Gonzalez CA, Jockel KH, Krauss M, Kreienbrock L, Kreuzer M,
> > Mendes A, Merletti F, Nyberg F, Pershagen G, Pohlabeln H, Riboli E,
> > Schmid G, Simonato L, Tredaniel J, Whitley E, Wichmann HE, Winck C,
> > Zambon P, Saracci R.
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Journal of the National Cancer Institute (full text)
> >http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/19/1440
>
> This study said absolutely nothing about protective effects; what it
> said was they simply found no reason to believe that children who
> were
> exposed to secondhand smoke were no more likely to get lung cancer
> then
> kids who were not exposed to secondhand smoke.
>
> For you to twist that into claiming a protective effect of smoking is
> dishonest. Further, that study looked at one disease; lung cancer.
> Smoking and secondhand smoke are associated with my diseases such as
> emphysema which were not addressed in the study you cited.
>
> Path: aioe.org!news.germany.com!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!
> border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
> local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!
> not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:45:57 -0500
> From: Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.smokers
> Subject: Re: Eliot Spitzer, antismoking leader, self-destructs
> References: <tplbt39nk4m6dt1ab6lom2g4a20ej0i...@4ax.com>
> <f39fcc37-7f5e-428c-98be-368059f51...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X)
> X-No-Archive: yes
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:45:57 -0400
> Message-ID: <srhi-FCD465.20455710032...@comcast.dca.giganews.com>
> Lines: 22
> X-Usenet-Provider:http://www.giganews.com
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.44.35.193
> X-Trace: sv3-aeDk2kBlLjjuTZ2wUblP+08Zus46uGKnxaEc1XrET/
> q75f5OjHm8o5bW0ZNHuQMmv9BNYCI5799R/jx!
> gSFiBZjZqnAt0Un58keYpoLSw7UmS1VVtjGDcvWzkUZnGDB10faMjmGTa9+mr9Iqp5qKoi7zwu6t!
> DoMgOytpZumi6ZHC/Yy4SnXV1IPl7IKM3gGHBA==
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@comcast.net
> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: d...@comcast.net
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your
> complaint properly
> X-Postfilter: 1.3.37
>
> "Shawn Hirn" <s...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:srhi-
>
> FCD465.20455710032...@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <f39fcc37-7f5e-428c-98be-368059f51...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> > The BIG N <ni...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Mar 10, 8:51 pm, Robert <n...@e.mail> wrote:
> >> > Zero tolerance, no compromise, no mercy.
>
> >> > Bye bye, hypocrite.
>
> >> Sooner or later the zealot and control-freak, right, left or
> >> otherwise, is going to trip over his own feet. Look at Troll Shane and
> >> Babs Broughton, for just one example.
>
> > You really can't count. That's two examples, not one. It sounds like
> > you're a fifth grade drop out.
>
> > Spitzer kind of reminds me of Bill Clinton, where they both obviously
> > got caught in outrageously stupid acts. Just like smokers who think they
> > are immune to the consequences of their actions, Spitzer obviously
> > thought that somehow, he was better than all the johns that got nabbed
> > for prostitution. I agree, Spitzer is a hypocrite, especially since
> > prostitution should be legalized.
>
> Yep ! Gotta buy your women , such a LIAR can' t possibly
> smoth talk and get one that stay's with you huh?
>

Shame Him is such a liar he' ll never realize what an incredible ass
he has
made of himself.

He cares not about anything but his agenda.

Ken Pangborn has more credibility.

see for yourself Shame Him

http://tinyurl.com/ys3oqd

http://tinyurl.com/26wrgc

Chugg

==============================================================================
TOPIC: billigfluege stuttgart flug muenchen la palma flug nach la palma fluege
nach mallorca de mallorca fluege nach palma de mallorca mallorca flug von
frankfurt nach palma palma de mallorca mallorca flug koeln la palma
billigfluege nach mallorca nach mallorca flug frankfurt nach mallorca
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/470da1d692088925?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 10:17 pm
From: kgkgjkgkgkfgk

billigfluege stuttgart flug muenchen la palma flug nach la palma
fluege nach mallorca de mallorca fluege nach palma de mallorca
mallorca flug von frankfurt nach palma palma de mallorca mallorca flug
koeln la palma billigfluege nach mallorca nach mallorca flug frankfurt
nach mallorca

preisvergleich fluege mallorca fluege las palma flug und hotel palma
fluege nach las palma fluege von duesseldorf nach palma flug memmingen
mallorca flug berlin nach mallorca fluege frankfurt la palma billig
fluege palma fluege berlin mallorca fluege von palma fluege nuernberg
mallorca billigflug berlin mallorca flug koeln la palma billigfluege
duesseldorf palma fluege zweibruecken mallorca fluege frankfurt palma
mallorca fluege hamburg palma guenstige fluege nach la palma flug und
hotel palma nach mallorca fluege nach mallorca mallorca party flug
billige fluege mallorca guenstige fluege mallorca fluege bremen
mallorca fluege hamburg fluege dresden billigflug berlin palma flug
von palma flug von bremen flug von palma fluege santa cruz de la palma
flug nach palma fluege saarbruecken mallorca fluege zweibruecken
mallorca flug von hamburg flug und mietwagen mallorca flug von bremen
fluege zweibruecken mallorca nur flug mallorca fluege berlin palma
flug friedrichshafen billig flug hamburg

==============================================================================

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "misc.consumers.frugal-living"
group.

To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to misc.consumers.frugal-living-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/subscribe?hl=en

To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com

==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com?hl=en

Frugal Living

Blog Archive

Friday, March 28, 2008

25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

No comments: