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* you win 1000dallers - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 1:31 am
From: sivakumar433@gmail.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 1:40 am
From: jill

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 2:15 am
From: Peter Bruells

max <betatron@earthlink.net> writes:

> In article <0TVFj.185793$FE.123898@fe05.news.easynews.com>,
> "The Henchman" <don'taskme@iampoor.net> wrote:
>>
>> Still cheaper now than in previous decades.
>
> That turns out not to be the case.
> <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=gasoline++%22inflation+adjusted%22&btnG=Search>

Don't forget that incomes have risen. What's important isn't how much
the price's in inflated adjusted dollars, but how long you have to
work for it.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 3:36 am
From: max

In article <m23aq97uxs.fsf@rogue.de>, Peter Bruells <usernet@rogue.de>
wrote:

> max <betatron@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > In article <0TVFj.185793$FE.123898@fe05.news.easynews.com>,
> > "The Henchman" <don'taskme@iampoor.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Still cheaper now than in previous decades.
> >
> > That turns out not to be the case.
> > <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=gasoline++%22inflation+adjusted%22&btnG
> > =Search>
>
> Don't forget that incomes have risen. What's important isn't how much
> the price's in inflated adjusted dollars, but how long you have to
> work for it.

i know this is going to sound coy or argumentative, but isn't "how long
you have to work for it" roughly equivalent to "inflation adjusted"?

.max

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:31 am
From: Peter Bruells

max <betatron@earthlink.net> writes:

> In article <m23aq97uxs.fsf@rogue.de>, Peter Bruells <usernet@rogue.de>
> wrote:
>
>> max <betatron@earthlink.net> writes:
>>
>> > In article <0TVFj.185793$FE.123898@fe05.news.easynews.com>,
>> > "The Henchman" <don'taskme@iampoor.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Still cheaper now than in previous decades.
>> >
>> > That turns out not to be the case.
>> > <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=gasoline++%22inflation+adjusted%22&btnG
>> > =Search>
>>
>> Don't forget that incomes have risen. What's important isn't how much
>> the price's in inflated adjusted dollars, but how long you have to
>> work for it.
>
> i know this is going to sound coy or argumentative, but isn't "how long
> you have to work for it" roughly equivalent to "inflation adjusted"?

No, it isn't. These are seperate issues.

These are numbers for Germany, but the principle's the same in the U.S.

1958: 16 Minutes work (at average income for 1 litre gasoline)
1960: 14 Minutes
1981: 4 Minutes
1985: 6 Minutes
1991: 4 Minutes
1997: 4 Minutes
1996: 4 Minutes
2000: 5 Minutes
2004: 5 Minutes

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 3:49 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

Kompu Kid <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> My aunt is considering a sunroom for her home. She asked me to
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>> footage covered for real estate taxes.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 5:36 am
From: Sal_55

On 28 Mar, 01:56, "Lou" <lpogodajr292...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Sal_55 wrote:
> > > On 27 Mar, 22:20, "mart2...@hotmail.com" <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On 27 Mar, 21:31, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> I'm ill, and can't leave the house at all for the next 5 weeks or
> > >>> so. So I'm interested in knowing if anyone can tell me of any ways
> > >>> I can work from home for this period of time? I have done a quick
> > >>> search of the web and already I'm getting the impression that there
> > >>> arer a lot of scam sites offering work to people desperate for
> > >>> extra money. So I'm looking for genuine work only. Also, I don't
> > >>> want to sound too greedy, but I'd obviously prefer jobs which are
> > >>> high paying than low paying jobs.
> > >>> This might sound weird, but I know those companies which offer
> > >>> people money to allow them to take part in clinical trials of new
> > >>> pharmaceutical drugs, require all people testing drugs to be
> > >>> healthy. But I can't even leave the house due to a broken bone. But
> > >>> are there any companies which allow people to be tested with drugs
> > >>> at home? Alternatively,are there any other products which I can
> > >>> test at home and be paid for testing them? Please don't laugh if
> > >>> that is too stupd a question.
> > >>> Thanks for reading this and bye.
>
> > >> Can buy and sell on ebay.
> > >> Not so sure about the high paying bit - there are several I can think
> > >> of but all take longer than 5 weeks to set up and get going to more
> > >> than cover costs.
> > >> Still, if you have the right skills, some employers will pay for work
> > >> done.
>
> > >> Writing articles for magazines is profitable. But can you write well
> > >> enough to be noticed in the slush pile?
>
> > >> Martin <><- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Putting modesty to one side, I am quite quick-witted with a sharp
> > > tongue. But that's a symptom of my depression. I can write good
> > > english and amuse ppl,but I don't want to. Because that'll be the
> > > depression talking. Most ppl won't understand what I just wrote. Ppl
> > > who're clinically depressed often become very witty. Just as blind ppl
> > > develop acute hearing. I don't really know the reason,maybe it's a
> > > defence mechanism of sorts.
> > > I like the idea of buying and selling on ebay a lot. On laptop
> > > computers I can imagine making 40 pounds on each laptop won't be too
> > > hard. But how do I take the laptops to the post office,with my broken
> > > foot?
> > > Sorry for sounding so damn lazy,but what I'd really like is to have
> > > some pharmaceuticals injected into me, and then in 5 weeks time, I can
> > > go to the Clinical research companies headquarters and have the
> > > necessary blood tests, and be paid.
>
> What's the deal - are you in traction or something else that totally
> immobilizes you? How do you get to the bathroom, the dinner table, the
> horizontal surface your computer is sitting on so you can type these posts?
> Ever hear of a wheelchair or crutches?
>
> I work in the clinical trial field, though not at testing sites. Some
> trials require you to be sick - they're testing drugs/devices that hopefully
> will make sick people better, after all. Some early stage trials require
> you to be healthy - they're checking to see what doses can be tolerated, how
> long they stay in the body, and possible side effects. Some trials last
> only a day, some for weeks, months, ...
>
> Most trials are pills, not injections. Ones that are injections or IV's
> generally are a series of injections or IV's. For the ones that use healthy
> subjects where the drug "half-life" is being checked, they take a blood
> sample every 30 minutes or so for several hours.
> I've never heard of one where they come to your house.
>
> Yes you get paid (if you follow instructions), but you'll never get rich
> being a test subject. I've never heard of a trial where the
> doctors/technicians/whatever come to your house.
>
> And just as an aside, my sister has a broken foot and is still wearing a
> boot and using crutches six months after the event. She's raising three
> kids, keeping house, and going to work every day. Oh, and going to the
> doctor, who says everything is progressing right on schedule.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the input Lou. I'm sorry to hear about your sister. But the
ppl in the hospital here in England told me not to walk at all. And If
I do have to walk to use crutches. They said the more I walked, even
on crutches,the longer it will take the broekn bone to heal. They told
me that if I don't use my foot at all,it should heal in about 5 weeks.
But I've been a naughty boy, and have been walking without crutches to
make coffee and go to the toilet. In my defence, when I do walk I
don't put any pressure on the broken foot, but sort of drag it, whilst
putting all the pressure on the healthy foot. Not as good as using
crutches, but at least I don't leave the house at all on long walks.
Lou, since you work in the clinical trials field, can you be kind
enough to tell me which of the companies in the UK won't mind someone
in crutches coming to take part in their trials?
Thanks for all the help everyone and bye.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:55 am
From: "mart2306@hotmail.com"

There's broken foot and broken foot. Depending on exactly what bone(s)
are broken and condition of the patient, one person may be given a
'silver boot' and be pretty mobile. Another may be unable to walk on
it at all.

Broken foot covers quite a variety of breaks, what with several bones
in the foot and breakage possible at different points of those bones.

If he can't get out, he can't get out. Still plenty that can be done -
just not necessarily high earning for such a short period of time.

Martin <><

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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 5:51 am
From: Bert Hyman

In news:20080328223451.435$Qn@newsreader.com jrudoy@yahoo.com wrote:

> TV Converter Box Coupon for Sale. Takes $40 off payment for TV Converter
> Box to get digital TV signal on analog/old TV. Valid to 5/27/2008. $28/bo

https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx

11. Can coupons be sold?

No. It is illegal to sell, duplicate or tamper with the coupon.

Good luck.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:08 am
From: Jer

Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:20080328223451.435$Qn@newsreader.com jrudoy@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> TV Converter Box Coupon for Sale. Takes $40 off payment for TV Converter
>> Box to get digital TV signal on analog/old TV. Valid to 5/27/2008. $28/bo
>
> https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx
>
> 11. Can coupons be sold?
>
> No. It is illegal to sell, duplicate or tamper with the coupon.
>
> Good luck.
>

What makes you think anyone actually cares what is or isn't legal for
these coupons?

--
jer
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:02 am
From: "Runge11"

yes, forgetting what your own country is doing to the rest of the world.
Take a mirror and look at yourself.

"News reader" <dont-even-bother@blank.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:8IKdnVdaMuAo6nDanZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@giganews.com...
> ???? ????? wrote:
>>
>> What does 'Islam' mean? Islam is not a new religion, but the same
>> truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people;
>> Islam is both a religion and the complete way of life. Muslims follow
>> a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness. The Arabic word 'Islam'
>> simply means 'submission', and derives from a word meaning 'peace'. In
>> a religious cont ext it means complete submission to the will of God.
>> 'Mohammadanism' is thus a misnomer because it suggests that Muslims
>> worship Muhammad (peace be upon him) rather than God. 'Allah' is the
>> Arabic name for God, which is used by Arab Muslims and Christians
>> alike.
>>
>> Islam is not Just for Arabs. The Truth of Islam is meant for all
>> people regardless of race, nationality or linguistic background.
>> Taking a look at the Muslim World, from Nigeria to Bosnia and from
>> Malaysia to Afghanistan is enough to prove that Islam is a Universal
>> message for all of mankind --- not to mention the fact that
>> significant numbers of Europeans and Americans of all races and ethnic
>> backgrounds are coming into Islam
>
> To me it means flying planes into buildings and killing 3000 innocent
> people.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:44 am
From: News reader

Runge11 wrote:
> yes, forgetting what your own country is doing to the rest of the world.
> Take a mirror and look at yourself.
>
Yeah the U.S. doesn't help the world out at all. We saved France from
becoming Germany. We saved the Hebrews from becoming eradicated. We
freed the Afgans from the Taliban and Al-Queda. We took out the cruel
dictator from Iraq. But we only get criticized for the 'misery and
death' that we cause. In my opinion the U.S. should remind the world
exactly what good we do, by backing out of world affairs for a bit, and
then watch the world go to hell in a hand basket. And then say "I told
you so." when the world insists that we start helping again.

> "News reader" <dont-even-bother@blank.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news:8IKdnVdaMuAo6nDanZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> ???? ????? wrote:
>>>
>>> What does 'Islam' mean? Islam is not a new religion, but the same
>>> truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people;
>>> Islam is both a religion and the complete way of life. Muslims follow
>>> a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness. The Arabic word 'Islam'
>>> simply means 'submission', and derives from a word meaning 'peace'. In
>>> a religious cont ext it means complete submission to the will of God.
>>> 'Mohammadanism' is thus a misnomer because it suggests that Muslims
>>> worship Muhammad (peace be upon him) rather than God. 'Allah' is the
>>> Arabic name for God, which is used by Arab Muslims and Christians
>>> alike.
>>>
>>> Islam is not Just for Arabs. The Truth of Islam is meant for all
>>> people regardless of race, nationality or linguistic background.
>>> Taking a look at the Muslim World, from Nigeria to Bosnia and from
>>> Malaysia to Afghanistan is enough to prove that Islam is a Universal
>>> message for all of mankind --- not to mention the fact that
>>> significant numbers of Europeans and Americans of all races and ethnic
>>> backgrounds are coming into Islam
>>
>> To me it means flying planes into buildings and killing 3000 innocent
>> people.
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 7:12 am
From: "William Black"

"News reader" <dont-even-bother@blank.net> wrote in message
news:5sOdnYGPRoQh2nPanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Runge11 wrote:
>> yes, forgetting what your own country is doing to the rest of the world.
>> Take a mirror and look at yourself.
>>
> Yeah the U.S. doesn't help the world out at all. We saved France from
> becoming Germany. We saved the Hebrews from becoming eradicated.

Which Hebrews did you save?

The European ones were dead and the ones who made it to the Middle East
managed to save themselves quite effectively with Czech arms.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 7:01 am
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