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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 12:20 am
From: "Clave"

"Texan 2112" <spammers_suck@all times> wrote in message
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> Like Obamessiah, you completely misrepresent McCain's position on Iraq.

What *is* his position this week?

Jim

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 4:05 am
From: Jeff

Texan 2112 wrote:
> Like Obamessiah, you completely misrepresent McCain's position on Iraq.
> In the words of the immortal spongioplast, 'Good luck with that'.

Must be a republican.

Completely ignores and snips the context to push some divisive issue.

Good luck with that record of accomplishments you guys have to run on.

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 4:49 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <efaJj.2904$7D1.838@newsfe02.lga>,
The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

> I get at least one call per day from some home-improvement contracting
> company -- not the same one, all different. I also get the occasional
> recorded call from somebody probably offering loans by telling me
> "there's a problem with my account."
>
> Why do contractors feel they're exempt? Do they prey on the stupid who
> don't know about the do-not-call list? Do they just not care?
>
> Sometimes I try to get the name and phone number to report them, but I'm
> pretty much sure that's a waste of my time. Way easier to just snarl at
> them, even if I know it makes no difference.

Some small businesses simply may be ignorant. If you are so inclined,
talk to them and simply explain the do not call list and request that
they do not call you again. Or get caller-id and simply block them or
ignore their calls. As with so much the Bush Administration does, the do
not call list is botched up due to a lack of enforcement, so reporting
them probably won't help, but it can't hurt either.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 5:34 am
From: Dee

"SpammersDie" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in
news:m0eJj.129800$cQ1.63564@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
> "Dave" <noway@nohow.not> wrote in message
> news:20080403164755.fba1cd77.noway@nohow.not...
>>
>> There is a huge problem with that solution, though. Who wants
>> the phone to ring hundreds of times a day so that you have to run
>> to the caller ID box to see that you don't want to answer it
>> AGAIN?!?
>
> What would be better is a technological solution more in line with
> this day and age.

I didn't have a problem with telemarketing calls at all until about a
year ago when I gave my home number to the car dealer where I was
buying my car. Since then I have been receiving an increasing number
of sales calls from companies trying to sell me extended warranties on
my car.

Last week I finally had enough and googled for some kind of solution.
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It works with DSL, but I think they also have a dial-up version. And a
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Dee

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 6:13 am
From: George Grapman

Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article <efaJj.2904$7D1.838@newsfe02.lga>,
> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I get at least one call per day from some home-improvement contracting
>> company -- not the same one, all different. I also get the occasional
>> recorded call from somebody probably offering loans by telling me
>> "there's a problem with my account."
>>
>> Why do contractors feel they're exempt? Do they prey on the stupid who
>> don't know about the do-not-call list? Do they just not care?
>>
>> Sometimes I try to get the name and phone number to report them, but I'm
>> pretty much sure that's a waste of my time. Way easier to just snarl at
>> them, even if I know it makes no difference.
>
> Some small businesses simply may be ignorant. If you are so inclined,
> talk to them and simply explain the do not call list and request that
> they do not call you again. Or get caller-id and simply block them or
> ignore their calls. As with so much the Bush Administration does, the do
> not call list is botched up due to a lack of enforcement, so reporting
> them probably won't help, but it can't hurt either.

Unless the are one of the first people to be called it is hard to
believe that others have not already informed them that they are
violating the law.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 6:33 am
From: timeOday

The Real Bev wrote:
> George Grapman wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>> I get at least one call per day from some home-improvement
>>> contracting company -- not the same one, all different. I also get
>>> the occasional recorded call from somebody probably offering loans by
>>> telling me "there's a problem with my account."
>>>
>>> Why do contractors feel they're exempt? Do they prey on the stupid
>>> who don't know about the do-not-call list? Do they just not care?
>>>
>>> Sometimes I try to get the name and phone number to report them, but
>>> I'm pretty much sure that's a waste of my time. Way easier to just
>>> snarl at them, even if I know it makes no difference.
>>
>> I have posted details a will be happy to do it again bur basically
>> if the company is in your state and you can determine their location
>> small claims court is a great remedy.
>
> Yeah, but I was actually womdering more about why contractors and loan
> companies as opposed to, say, housecleaning services or used-car shops.
>

Maybe the downturn in the housing industry is making them desperate?

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 6:52 am
From: val189

On Apr 3, 2:29 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I get at least one call per day from some home-improvement contracting
> company -- not the same one, all different. I also get the occasional
> recorded call from somebody probably offering loans by telling me
> "there's a problem with my account."
>
> Why do contractors feel they're exempt? Do they prey on the stupid who
> don't know about the do-not-call list? Do they just not care?
>
> Sometimes I try to get the name and phone number to report them, but I'm
> pretty much sure that's a waste of my time. Way easier to just snarl at
> them, even if I know it makes no difference.

If you don't have it, get caller ID. Worth every cent. I ward off
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Since the DNC list began, my junk calls fell off 99%. The caller id
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I wouldn't waste my breath trying to get a name and number - and
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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 7:00 am
From: George Grapman

val189 wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2:29 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I get at least one call per day from some home-improvement contracting
>> company -- not the same one, all different. I also get the occasional
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>> "there's a problem with my account."
>>
>> Why do contractors feel they're exempt? Do they prey on the stupid who
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>>
>> Sometimes I try to get the name and phone number to report them, but I'm
>> pretty much sure that's a waste of my time. Way easier to just snarl at
>> them, even if I know it makes no difference.
>
>
> If you don't have it, get caller ID. Worth every cent. I ward off
> undesirable relatives' calls with it too.
>
> Since the DNC list began, my junk calls fell off 99%. The caller id
> handles the rest, like those from 'unknown'.
>
> I wouldn't waste my breath trying to get a name and number - and
> reporting them would be even more time wasted.

Caller ID and the privacy feature stop a lot of calls but a few
"Unknown number" still get through which I ignore.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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