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* Everybody in this world wants to be fashionable. To sport a trendy and
stylish look is a dream of youngsters as well as elders. Various designed
clothes that we put on create a lasting impression in the minds of people.
Apart from style and look, those stuffs must provide comfort to our bodies.
Earlier, men's underwear was not in the priority list for fashion. But, lately
males have started giving more importance to the look and feel of their
undergarments. To tap this growing popularity for trendy underwear,
manufacturers are offering a variety of products to satisfy the needs of their
customers. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/22269d8b6e8f27bf?hl=en
* My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8258903de83b6619?hl=en
* The utility of the overall uniforms is also very important. Overall uniforms
increase in utility by the addition of pockets. Check out how many pockets
will be suitable for your workers' uniforms. The trouser will have two side
pockets and one back pocket, but you can add a pocket on the bib portion, and
even make tool holder pockets on the sides of the pants. - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4846be6d2043caee?hl=en
* BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ec3161db9d48413?hl=en
* Brand Watches Christian Dior Men's Watches Riva Chrono Sparkling D81-101
MAGTC - 3 Discount, Replica, Fake - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Rado Men's Watches DiaStar R18569103 - AA - Replica Watch Fake - 1 messages,
1 author
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* Pigs tow away motorhomes belonging to the homeless in Ontario, CA. - 2
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ef9b2be51a1cd9c6?hl=en
* Building with Pallets? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce172464487cfaeb?hl=en
* Illegal Aliens ( breeders) come to US for free births-and anchor babies - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3377e961b5983825?hl=en
* Video on the internet - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Brand Watches Christian Dior Malice Ladies Watch CD052110A030 Discount,
Replica, Fake - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Rado Diastar Original Chronograph Mens Watch R12638153 - Replica Watch Fake -
1 messages, 1 author
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* Seiko Women's Coutura Watch #SXD571 - Replica Watch Fake - 1 messages, 1
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* Casio Men's Pathfinder Solar Digital Watch #PAG70T-7V - Replica Watch Fake -
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* Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso Reserve de Marche 18kt Rose Gold Mens Watch 270.21.
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* Wholesale Gucci-YA103501 Cheapest - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/370f74edd97f1416?hl=en
* Gucci 8905 Series Mens Watch 18965 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/327c8b3ebda16306?hl=en
* Seiko Dress Two-Tone Steel White Ladies Watch SXJS67 - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Brand Watches Christian Dior Ladies Watches Malice Trotter CD052110A019 - 3
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* Rado Ladies Watches DiaStar R18573253 - 3 2 - Replica Watch Fake - 1
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TOPIC: Everybody in this world wants to be fashionable. To sport a trendy and
stylish look is a dream of youngsters as well as elders. Various designed
clothes that we put on create a lasting impression in the minds of people.
Apart from style and look, those stuffs must provide comfort to our bodies.
Earlier, men's underwear was not in the priority list for fashion. But, lately
males have started giving more importance to the look and feel of their
undergarments. To tap this growing popularity for trendy underwear,
manufacturers are offering a variety of products to satisfy the needs of their
customers.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 6:33 am
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TOPIC: My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 6:35 am
From: Abe

>> Everyone is responding like he did get scammed, but I'm not so sure.
>> Was the work done illegally? Almost surely, I'm not arguing that. But
>> to be scammed, he must have not gotten his money's worth.
>> Did they do a good job and use a good product on the driveway? Did the
>> driveway have alot of cracks and other imperfections before they
>> started? Are they well filled now? $50 extra is not really that much
>> if there WAS in fact alot of existing damage. Just because they didn't
>> price it right at first and had to ask for more doesn't mean your
>> neighbor was scammed, it just means they didn't price the job
>> correctly.
>Is your last name "Williams" by any chance?
Huh?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 8:30 am
From: "SteveB"

> Everyone is responding like he did get scammed, but I'm not so sure.

I'm sure. He wasn't scammed. He was stupid.

Steve

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 6:33 am
From: watches1002@global-replica-watch.com

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 6:45 am
From: ComandanteBanana

On Apr 21, 12:25 am, Bob <hunr...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and
> > dangerous.
>
> Hyperbole must be part of the Troll's Rules of Conduct. If "everybody
> is armed and dangerous" every day should be one gigantic bloodbath
> with hundreds of thousands killed or maimed yet that isn't the case.

There are such a bad combination: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH &
FEAR

Yep, bad laws --or lack of good laws-- start the cycle of violence.
Case in point is the lack of legislation or enforcement about passing
laws. Here's what's going on in my particular city that shouldn't be
much different from your average American city...

> Miami is such a sprawling area. I don't see how, even in the best possible circumstances, how the ENTIRE city could be bike-friendly.

Politicians and officers don't care about bikes, one way or the other.
There ain't much money in it. And basically you are at the good will
of drivers, who often feel cyclists are, at best, a nuisance.

But ALL IS NEEDED IS THE RIGHT LAWS, one that let's you pass on the
left when in a hurry, and go slow on the right --as slow as 20mph if
we want to accomodate scooters and bikes. That's THE WAY THEY DO IT IN
CIVILIZED COUNTRIES, not in the Banana Republics...

Road Rage Bill Clears Committee

A bill aimed at curbing road rage made it through its first Senate
committee, though similar legislation has stalled in recent years.

The legislation would attempt to reduce road rage by requiring drivers
to move out of the farthest lane left when being overtaken by faster
vehicles. It also would improve the flow of traffic, said the bill's
sponsor, Sen. Mike Bennett, R-Bradenton.

One problem with the bill is that a person driving the legal speed
limit could be ticketed for not pulling over for someone who is
exceeding it, said Sen. Alex Villalobos, R-Miami, who voted against
the bill. The bill would also cause problems during rush hour because
there's always someone in the left lane wanting to pass the car in
front of him, he said.

The Senate Committee on Transportation approved the bill (SB 658) with
a vote of 4-3. A similar House bill (HB 1177) passed its first
committee last week. The bill has several more stops before making it
to the floor of either chamber.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20080326/NEWS/803260577/1374

>
> > Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the
> > finger, not a bullet in the chest.
>
> The inference to be drawn from this would seem to be that you've
> recently been shot for cutting someone off in traffic. In that case,
> best wishes for a speedy recovery- and stop cutting people off.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Hunt

I simply quoted that article, but I share his concern. Settling
something with a finger or a gun are two different things.

The result of the equation above is that people are exposed to a real
threat, particularly if they assert their right with a finger. And
while few people actually get shot, the rest of the population live in
fear. Particularly the cyclists.

And we would have to start with changing the laws of the republic...

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:05 am
From: ComandanteBanana

The only hope the cyclists got is that things get bad enough in the
international jungle. Yep, what may be bad news for the Stupid
Unnecessary Vehicles, may be good news for the smart and efficient
cyclits...

Oil prices spike to record above $117
Monday April 21, 9:53 am ET

Oil prices climb to record above $117 a barrel after Mideast attack on
Japanese oil tanker

Oil prices spiked to a record above $117 a barrel on Monday after a
Japanese oil tanker was attacked off the east coast of Yemen.
The 150,000-ton tanker Takayama was attacked about 270 miles off the
Yemen coast in the Gulf of Aden while it was heading for Saudi Arabia,
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:29 am
From: ComandanteBanana

On Apr 21, 2:35 am, Harry Brogan
<hbrogan57_AT_NOSPAM_DOT_YAHOO_DOT_COM> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:25:50 -0700 (PDT), Bob <hunr...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 20, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and
> >> dangerous.
>
> >Hyperbole must be part of the Troll's Rules of Conduct. If "everybody
> >is armed and dangerous" every day should be one gigantic bloodbath
> >with hundreds of thousands killed or maimed yet that isn't the case.
>
> >> Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the
> >> finger, not a bullet in the chest.
>
> >The inference to be drawn from this would seem to be that you've
> >recently been shot for cutting someone off in traffic. In that case,
> >best wishes for a speedy recovery- and stop cutting people off.
>
> >Regards,
> >Bob Hunt
>
> It's only relatively recently, here in the U.S., that people have not
> been able to be "armed" while out and about. I don't recall reading
> anywhere about the "old west" being a blood bath.
> __o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
> _`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race.
> (_)/ (_) | ---H.G. Wells---- Hide quoted text -

Well, it seems to have been pretty wild...

I don't think many travellers would have dared ride a horse alone. No
safer than riding a bike in traffic today.

That's why "circle the wagons" came to be a popular saying.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 8:29 am
From: frkrygow@gmail.com

On Apr 21, 6:48 am, Steve Ball <pretty_g...@every.thing> wrote:
>
>
> I guess the harm is that's what good for the goose has to be good for the
> gander. If cyclists can decide which traffic signs to obey and when, why not
> motorists? I mean, if I car goes through a red light when there's no traffic
> on then intersecting road, where's the harm? Do you want to apply this to
> speed limits too? (Cyclists - even me - regularly exceed the posted 30 kph
> in Sydney's Centennial park; motorists get booked.)

From what I see here in America, what's good for the goose is indeed
good for the gander. That is, everyone violates traffic laws.

I have a stop sign less than 100 yards from where I'm typing this.
Only about half the motorists come to a complete stop. I regularly
see motorists going through red lights. That's most often by
squeezing through a fresh red before cross traffic starts up, but I
regularly see deliberate disobedience of a light that was long red
(including one memorable one by a cop - no siren or emergency lights;
he just didn't want to wait). I see a majority of motorists exceeding
speed limits, and neglecting turn signals before turning or changing
lanes. I regularly see motorists violating the laws in other ways as
well - the list could go on and on.

Bicyclists and pedestrians do the same, of course. I believe the
major difference is not in frequency of disobedience, but in
consequences of disobedience. Bicyclists and pedestrians almost never
injure anyone but themselves by their mistakes. Motorists in America
routinely kill tens of thousands per year.

(However, that's does NOT give credence to the "bicycling is
dangerous!!!" nonsense. Most of those killed by motorists are
motorists. Only a very few are cyclists.)

In summary: People will not be perfect in their obedience to laws,
whether they are on foot, on two wheels or on four (or more). Yes,
the legal system does generally concentrate on motorist violations,
but that's only logical, since motorist offenses are the ones that do
almost all the harm.

- Frank Krygowski

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TOPIC: Pigs tow away motorhomes belonging to the homeless in Ontario, CA.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:28 am
From: Scott in SoCal

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:59:15 -0700 (PDT), ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Apr 20, 6:44 am, "John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
>> In article <480b4334.571...@news-server.ca.rr.com>,
>> ultim...@hotmail.com (A Texan from Connecticut) wrote:
>>
>> > "Pattie Barnes, 46, learned Wednesday just how serious the warnings
>> > were.
>>
>> > "She was sitting in her motor home when a police officer approached.
>>
>> > "He asked me to start it. I tried, but the battery was dead," said the
>> > tearful Barnes. "The officer wouldn't give me any time to jump-start
>> > it. He just said, 'It's mine.' "
>>
>> > She begged him not to take the vehicle and sobbed as it was towed
>> > away.""
>>
>> Miss Barnes was given a 3 day warning because her vehicle was
>> on city property but had not been registered in over 6 months.
>> She had 3 days to prepare and move the vehicle. The fact that
>> she did nothing to try to prevent being towed means to me that
>> she (or her 20 year kid who lives with her) did not care if
>> her vehicle was towed.
>
> Yeah, because we know that money and the phy$ical logistics to repair
>it grows on trees around the camp, and that the homeless are loaded
>with cash all of the time..

<shrug> Vehicles are expensive things to insure, operate, and
maintain. If you can't afford those costs, then you have no business
owning one.

>> And it isn't like she lost the vehicle. All she has to do
>> satisfy the ticket by getting it licensed, then pay the towing
>> and storage fees. If the lady and her able bodied adult son
>
> Yeah, because we all know the homeless can scrape together the
>initial towing fee
>and a storage fee that grows bu $60 PEr DAY to get their motor home
>out.

In other words, yet another sub-prime homeowner who got in way over
her head.

Quick, let me call the WAAAAAAAAmbulance.

>> cannot take care of that, then perhaps they are not the type
>> of people who should own a recreational vehicle.
>
> Or maybe jobs aren't as plentiful, esp ones that can pay the high
>rents, as you Libertarians think.

All the more reason for everyone to live within their means. If Ms.
Barnes had been living in an actual TENT in that tent city, there
would have been no problem. She's in this predicament because she
chose to live in a motor home she could not afford.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:34 am
From: Scott in SoCal

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:02:42 -0700 (PDT), ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:

> Maybe because there is a huge demand for land, even the shittiest
>scap of land to be able to live on, that costs little
>or nothing. When you have no money, and jobs are getting scarce, and
>cost of living skyrockets while wages remain stagnant, what do you do
>now that the land Nazis (both private and gov't) own the entire 100
>fucking percent? People
>need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
>inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?

So how many homeless people are camped out in YOUR back yard?

You bleeding heart liberal pukes are all alike - you whine and
complain about how tough it is for indigent people, but would you even
lift a finger yourself to help these poor people out?

Get back to me when you have invited a homeless person to live on YOUR
shittly little scrap of land.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:22 am
From: troll

found pallets , they're free. make great building materials.
Like a compost bin.
Have you built anything with this great resource?
--
Remember," Only a dreamer can have a dream come true"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:33 am
From: HarryNadds

On Apr 21, 4:43 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 6:44 pm, tashabu...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> (CBS) It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts
> >> is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She's rushed to a south
> >> Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure
> >> that won't cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid.
>
> >> She gave birth to a healthy, 8 1/2 pound baby boy - born in America.
> >> His Mexican mother gave him an American name: Eliot.
>
> >> Eliot is one of an estimated 300,000 children of illegal immigrants
> >> born in the United States every year, according to the Pew Hispanic
> >> Center. They're given instant citizenship because they are born on
> >> U.S. soil, which makes it easier for their parents to become U.S.
> >> citizens.
>
> >> That's because those babies can eventually sponsor their parents -
> >> when they turn 21 years old.
>
> >> As for Eliot's mother, no longer as fearful of deportation, she told
> >> CBS News her name, Fabiola, and her story.
>
> >> "So your son is an American citizen. What does that mean to you?"
> >> Pitts asked.
>
> >> "I am very glad that he was born. That's why I came here - so my
> >> children, my husband and I could have a better life," she said
> >> through a translator.
>
> >> Back in December, when she was six months pregnant, Fabiola, her
> >> husband and their two daughters - ages 4 and 11 - crossed the Rio
> >> Grande from Mexico into the U.S.
>
> >> Once on the other side of the river they walked for two hours in
> >> search of a better life and free medical care for their unborn child.
>
> >> "Do many women in Mexico make the choice to have their children in
> >> the United States?" Pitts asked.
>
> >> "Yes," she said through a translator. "I know people who have done
> >> that. Things are much better here in the U.S. because they help
> >> children so much more."
>
> >> It's a "better" life ... that American taxpayers help pay for.
>
> >> Take healthcare for example -- an estimated $1.1 billion per year for
> >> undocumented men, women and children, according to the Rand
> >> Corporation.
>
> >> Joe Riley is the CEO of the McAllen Texas Medical Center near the
> >> Texas-Mexico border. Forty percent of the children born there, nearly
> >> 2,400 last year, were the babies of illegal immigrants.
>
> >> Riley has seen and heard it all.
>
> >> "Mothers about to give birth that walk up to the hospital still wet
> >> from swimming across the river in actual labor ... dirty, wet, cold,"
> >> he said.
>
> >> But here to have a child?
>
> >> "Here to have a child in the U.S.," he said.
>
> >> McAllen is part of a large hospital system. Like all hospitals, it is
> >> mandated by law to treat all emergency-room patients, not verify
> >> citizenship.
>
> >> "We have uncompensated care of over $200 million a year," Riley said.
>
> >> "Of money that you'll never see again?" Pitts asked.
>
> >> "Yes," he said.
>
> >> Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said: "It is not fair to the taxpayers who
> >> have to foot the bill."
>
> >> Congress has all but given up on comprehensive immigration reform.
> >> But lawmakers like Smith want to solve birth citizenship to illegal
> >> immigrants, in part by challenging the 14th Amendment, which
> >> guarantees U.S. citizenship to any child born in America.
>
> >> "It seems fundamentally wrong that we ought to give the greatest
> >> honor of their citizenship," Smith said. "His or her mother came
> >> across the border illegally."
>
> >> Many Americans who struggle to take care of their own families think
> >> it is unfair that they should take care of a family and they are not
> >> U.S. citizens.
>
> >> "I don't understand the resentment," said. "I know that God will help
> >> them, too."
>
> >> That's what Fabiola's doing for young Eliot. Relying on her faith,
> >> her family ... and the U.S. government.
>
> >> MMVIII, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights R
>
> > Run these breeders across the border. If they return illegally
> > put them in primative forced labor camps for 10 years.
>
> Makes a lot more sense to summarily execute KKK goons like you and your ilk.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,walking across
the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks? Can I walk into
mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born in mexico it
becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids? Will Mexico
let me do that and if not,why not? Are they racist against whites? Are
they xenophobes? Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK? Have they
built fences along their southern border? Do they attempt to keep ALL
illegal immigrants out of their country?? If they do then why are we
americans called racists for trying to maintain the sovereignty of our
country and Mexico not?? Please go into detail and explain this to the
uninformed.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:54 am
From: "Lee K"

"Gordon" <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A86CDEA568ECgreederxprtnet@199.45.49.11...
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in news:66q2bhF2jmmfoU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>>> THe problem is, over the air reception sux.
>>
>> It doesnt if you use digital TV.
>
> Gee Rod, thanks for that piece of trivia. I'll just
> go out and plop down a couple of thou for a new DTV.
>

Get one of the digital/analog converters (use the $40 coupon: I hear the
converters go for $50 at Wal*Mart)..

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