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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 3:39 am
From: Truly Stunned


In article <KvednfASmMK8jYbVnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:

> There is no oil shortage at present. Oil prices are up for several reason.
>
> A vastly devalued dollar that is still falling.
>
> A large about of uncertainty and fear in the market.
>
> A futures market that is out of control.
>
> Each of those adds about $20 to the price of a barrel.

Agreed on each point. Also notable is that American oil reserves are
full to capacity and yet prices continue to rise, abrogating any idea
the law of supply and demand.

> Our government created or contributed to each of those problems. None
> of those will be addressed under the current president.

Also agreed, with this exception: the current US federal government does
not see high fuel prices as a "problem". Rather, it views them as the
goal it has held since it came into power almost eight years ago. In
hindsight, it is clear that this rise in price has always been actively
sought by this government, at a cost to the American people of shiploads
of blood and a great percentage of their current and future public
wealth.

Tax cuts on gasoline would have so minor an effect at the pump that the
idea is laughable-- yet another tax break for oil company revenues.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 5:56 am
From: jdoe


On Sat, 03 May 2008 05:39:10 -0500, Truly Stunned
<violin@thebridgeofsighs.sad> wrote:

>In article <KvednfASmMK8jYbVnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no oil shortage at present. Oil prices are up for several reason.
>>
>> A vastly devalued dollar that is still falling.
>>
>> A large about of uncertainty and fear in the market.
>>
>> A futures market that is out of control.
>>
>> Each of those adds about $20 to the price of a barrel.
>
>Agreed on each point. Also notable is that American oil reserves are
>full to capacity and yet prices continue to rise, abrogating any idea
>the law of supply and demand.
>
and where did you conjure up this piece of misinformation? simply put
you are wrong and clueless
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 7:07 am
From: "Bill"


> Wrong again. First, the Federal government has no authority under the
> Constitution to dictate the prices at which a corporation may sell its
> products.
>

Well laws and constitutions can be changed if "We the people" want them
changed.

I know plenty of "We the peoples" who are quite fed up with these high oil
prices. Oil companies/refineries can be nationalized or price regulated as a
monopoly. This is currently done on a local level with phone and cable TV
companies.

Who owns the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in Alaska?


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 9:06 am
From: Larry Caldwell


In article <6839t6F2r67ijU1@mid.individual.net>,
billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com (Bill) says...

> Well laws and constitutions can be changed if "We the people" want them
> changed.

Democracies normally fall to tyranny during times of turmoil or civil
war. The turmoil is caused by the leaders of democracies buying votes
with the public treasury, which bankrupts the government.

At least that is what Polycrates thought, in the 2nd century. When I
hear people like you willing to swap the constitution for a tank of gas,
I think maybe he was right.

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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 9:11 am
From: Larry Caldwell


In article <680oj4F2pglqvU1@mid.individual.net>,
billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com (Bill) says...

> I say Alaska oil should only be sold in the U.S. for use by Americans and
> set at a reasonable price. It is OUR OIL!

We can't use it, Billy. All the refining capacity is on the gulf.
Tankers won't make it through the Panama Canal. We would have to ship
it all the way around Cape Horn. It's easier to just ship it to the Far
East, and use the money to buy oil from Venezuela. If it were cheaper
to ship it from Alaska to Louisiana, we would do that.


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== 1 of 1 ==
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> Cash_is_king,and_RodSpeed, don't_forget_it <kwokx2@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> They dropped I-Bond rates to a core 0% interest. Peculiar
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>
> Thats not the reason for the drop or the lack of demand either.
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