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* What does it cost to feed yourself these days? - 10 messages, 8 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5e35fa8087ca6eb4?hl=en
* Frugal ways - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e3584c16c404f4e?hl=en
* Food costs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a87142116351df4?hl=en
* How much does AC cost you? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cdcf4b45a8aaec43?hl=en
* Now registers the member to bestow 50 integrals! PayPal - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/90fa7947e691813a?hl=en

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TOPIC: What does it cost to feed yourself these days?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5e35fa8087ca6eb4?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:48 pm
From: "catalpa"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>

You can't make a meal for less than $5 ???

Perdue chicken leg quarters were on sale for $0.59 a lb. I bought 5 lbs,
cooked 3 lbs and froze 2 lbs. The 3 lbs of chicken lasts for 3 dinners. Add
a vegetable, pasta or potatoes and dessert and each meal is less than $1.50.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:22 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:17:17 -1200, in misc.consumers.frugal-living "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.commie> wrote:

>James FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK! <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote YELLOW
>BASTARD! BAREBACK! ANUS!
>> h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
>>>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>>>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>>>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2.
>>>> Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>
>>> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye
>>> comes to exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and
>>> olive oil, too. A can of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg
>>> makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
>
>>> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
>>> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.
>
>> I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so gas
>> cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
>> crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they ripe.
>
>You FUCKING BUGGERY! can still buy FUCKING ANUS-QUEEN! PUSSYLIPS!
>BOLLOCKS! potatoes for a FUCKING GAY! hell of lot FUCKING ASSKISSER!
>BOOBIES! less than $5 FUCKING BUSTED CHERRY! BUTT PEDDLER! BAREBACK! per
>meal. ASS-TO-MOUTH! PECKER!
>
>> They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on special.
>
>Thats FUCKING BITCH-QUEEN! still less than FUCKING CORNHOLER! LOVE
>TRUNCHEON! $5 per meal FUCKING KNOB! if you eat FUCKING BUTTHEAD!
>TOWN-TRAMP! half a pound FUCKING LOVE MELONS! per meal. ARSE GREASE!
>FUCK-ROD! PENIS!
>
>And FUCKING QUEER! a curry costs a FUCKING LOVE LOG! BAPS! COCK TEASER!
>ANAL COPULATOR! hell of a lot FUCKING SCUMBAG! BLIND SNAKE! less than
>that per FUCKING CLITTY! BOUNCER! ANAL COLLAR! FUDDY-DUDDY! meal.
>NYMPHO! PUSSY-POKER! DICKBREATH! BUTT! GODDAM!
>
>> Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some expiring meat available.
>
>> I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as they
>> cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about $1/doz.
>
>Even FUCKING CREAM-JUGS! at $2/doz thats FUCKING PIMPLE! JOCKSTRAP! a
>lot less FUCKING ARSE PIRATE! than $5 per FUCKING FLESH INJECTION!
>COCKROACH! BANGING FUDGE! CIRCUS BOY! BUM HOLE! BUTT BREATH! FUCKING
>BITCH! meal. BUNNY FUCK! PIECE-OF-FLUFF! GODDAMMIT! PUSTULE! LOVE TOOL!


When we want your advice we will rattle on the bars of your cage!

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:48 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


lisajoe@privacy.net wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:17:17 -1200, in misc.consumers.frugal-living
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.commie> wrote:
>
>> James FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK! <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote YELLOW
>> BASTARD! BAREBACK! ANUS!
>>> h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>>>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
>>>>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet
>>>>> ($8 including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be
>>>>> able to make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is
>>>>> around $2. Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of
>>>>> sight.
>>
>>>> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye
>>>> comes to exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and
>>>> olive oil, too. A can of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg
>>>> makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
>>
>>>> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
>>>> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.
>>
>>> I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so
>>> gas
>>> cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
>>> crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they
>>> ripe.
>>
>> You FUCKING BUGGERY! can still buy FUCKING ANUS-QUEEN! PUSSYLIPS!
>> BOLLOCKS! potatoes for a FUCKING GAY! hell of lot FUCKING ASSKISSER!
>> BOOBIES! less than $5 FUCKING BUSTED CHERRY! BUTT PEDDLER! BAREBACK!
>> per meal. ASS-TO-MOUTH! PECKER!
>>
>>> They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on
>>> special.
>>
>> Thats FUCKING BITCH-QUEEN! still less than FUCKING CORNHOLER! LOVE
>> TRUNCHEON! $5 per meal FUCKING KNOB! if you eat FUCKING BUTTHEAD!
>> TOWN-TRAMP! half a pound FUCKING LOVE MELONS! per meal. ARSE GREASE!
>> FUCK-ROD! PENIS!
>>
>> And FUCKING QUEER! a curry costs a FUCKING LOVE LOG! BAPS! COCK
>> TEASER! ANAL COPULATOR! hell of a lot FUCKING SCUMBAG! BLIND SNAKE!
>> less than that per FUCKING CLITTY! BOUNCER! ANAL COLLAR!
>> FUDDY-DUDDY! meal. NYMPHO! PUSSY-POKER! DICKBREATH! BUTT! GODDAM!
>>
>>> Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some
>>> expiring meat available.
>>
>>> I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as
>>> they
>>> cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about
>>> $1/doz.
>>
>> Even FUCKING CREAM-JUGS! at $2/doz thats FUCKING PIMPLE! JOCKSTRAP! a
>> lot less FUCKING ARSE PIRATE! than $5 per FUCKING FLESH INJECTION!
>> COCKROACH! BANGING FUDGE! CIRCUS BOY! BUM HOLE! BUTT BREATH! FUCKING
>> BITCH! meal. BUNNY FUCK! PIECE-OF-FLUFF! GODDAMMIT! PUSTULE! LOVE
>> TOOL!
>
>
> When we want your advice we will rattle on the bars of your cage!

So stupid that it cant even manage to work out who is the troll.


== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:53 pm
From: James


On Jul 19, 9:48 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
> "James" <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> > person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> > tip) and a light meal at home.  I don't seem to be able to make any
> > meal for less than $5.  Even a can of soup is around $2.  Fresh veges
> > even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>
> You can't make a meal for less than $5 ???
>
> Perdue chicken leg quarters were on sale for $0.59 a lb. I bought 5 lbs,
> cooked 3 lbs and froze 2 lbs. The 3 lbs of chicken lasts for 3 dinners. Add
> a vegetable, pasta or potatoes and dessert and each meal is less than $1.50.

I shoud amend that to regularly make a meal for less than $5.

Used to be able to get those leg quarter specials at least every month
being in chicken country. Now it's rare and only in 10 lb bags. I'm
a big eater so it's 2 leg quarters per meal for me. I cook them in
the microwave on a bed of garlic, onion or leek depending on price. I
like my garlic mash potatoes with lots of butter. Throw in a can of
peas and it will be over $3 without dessert.

Of course I could call several packs of Top Ramen a meal but as
delicious as it is, eating it gives me terrible acid reflux. The
other cheap meal is speghetti. I cook 8 oz. per meal, 12 oz. sauce, 4
oz cheese. Again pasta and sauce used to be on sale all the time but
it's rare now.

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:40 pm
From: timeOday


James wrote:
> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>

I've been getting the $5 footlong at Subway lately. For $5 you get a
lot of everything: fresh bread, veggies, meat, some cheese. I really
don't think you can touch that using ingredients from the grocery store.

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:41 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote
> catalpa <cata...@entertab.org> wrote
>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
>>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2.
>>> Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.

>> You can't make a meal for less than $5 ???

>> Perdue chicken leg quarters were on sale for $0.59 a lb.
>> I bought 5 lbs, cooked 3 lbs and froze 2 lbs. The 3 lbs of
>> chicken lasts for 3 dinners. Add a vegetable, pasta or
>> potatoes and dessert and each meal is less than $1.50.

> I shoud amend that to regularly make a meal for less than $5.

Doesnt help, its still mindlessly silly and completely routine
to do that with every meal if you choose to do that.

> Used to be able to get those leg quarter specials at least every
> month being in chicken country. Now it's rare and only in 10 lb bags.

There's plenty of other meat that doesnt end up with
anything like $5 per meal including the other ingredients.

> I'm a big eater so it's 2 leg quarters per meal for me.

Its still a lot less than $5 per meal.

> I cook them in the microwave on a bed of garlic, onion or leek
> depending on price. I like my garlic mash potatoes with lots of
> butter. Throw in a can of peas and it will be over $3 without dessert.

And there are plenty of other meals that are even cheaper than that.

> Of course I could call several packs of Top Ramen a meal
> but as delicious as it is, eating it gives me terrible acid reflux.

There is plenty that doesnt.

> The other cheap meal is speghetti.

Yep, completely trivial to do it for much less than $5 per meal.

> I cook 8 oz. per meal, 12 oz. sauce, 4 oz cheese. Again pasta
> and sauce used to be on sale all the time but it's rare now.

Bullshit, and even if you use the regular priced stuff, its STILL a lot less than $5/meal.


== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 9:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Rod Speed, ye infectious lump of foul deformity, what a caterwauling do
you keep here, ye repented:

> i have a question my bf had a difficult time getting a hard on and we
> havent had sex in over 1 month. Was it becuz he was having sex too
> often or was it not enough... im saying too often becuz he couldve
> cheated on me thats why i want to know.

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 9:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Rod Speed, ye warped clotpole, I see a good amendment of life in thee,
from praying to purse taking, ye hectored:

> I did a drot of lugs in college, I hink I thave dain bramage.

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:46 pm
From: "h"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:15fe33bb-8197-49f7-9f45-a6caafe29ee4@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 19, 1:00 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> YTD, we've averaged $95 / wk for two (retired - early 60's, eating out
> 1-2 times/wk - mostly a lunch or breakfast) vs. $84 /wk in 07. That $95
> includes food as well as paper goods, cleaning supplies, personal items
> (toothpaste, vitamins, razor blades, etc), etc. That's less than $2.50
> / meal, including non food items. I don't have a breakdown between food
> vs. non food expenditures. Fresh meats, seafood & vegetables are an
> important part of our diet with minimal freezing / canned goods.

>A friend told me it used to cost $200 to $250 a month for groceries
>for one person couple years ago but don't have current figures.

We spend about $350 a month for two adults. We grow a lot of our own veg,
and we low-carb, so we're mostly buying protein and fat, not cheaper
starches. $250 per person seems high to me, especially if you eat a lot of
pasta and bread, which is much cheaper than meat. That only covers meals
eaten at home, which is what we prefer. Why go to a restaurant with
screaming kids or drunken businessmen and spend $60 per person when you can
have fresh veggies, a 2" thick ribeye, and grilled jumbo shrimp for less
than $6 each? Plus, you can have some wine (for a lot less than $7 a glass)
and not have to worry about a designated driver.


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:14 pm
From: George Grapman


Rod Speed wrote:
> lisajoe@privacy.net wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:17:17 -1200, in misc.consumers.frugal-living
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.commie> wrote:
>>
>>> James FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK! <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote YELLOW
>>> BASTARD! BAREBACK! ANUS!
>>>> h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>>>>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
>>>>>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet
>>>>>> ($8 including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be
>>>>>> able to make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is
>>>>>> around $2. Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of
>>>>>> sight.
>>>>> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye
>>>>> comes to exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and
>>>>> olive oil, too. A can of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg
>>>>> makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
>>>>> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
>>>>> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.
>>>> I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so
>>>> gas
>>>> cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
>>>> crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they
>>>> ripe.
>>> You FUCKING BUGGERY! can still buy FUCKING ANUS-QUEEN! PUSSYLIPS!
>>> BOLLOCKS! potatoes for a FUCKING GAY! hell of lot FUCKING ASSKISSER!
>>> BOOBIES! less than $5 FUCKING BUSTED CHERRY! BUTT PEDDLER! BAREBACK!
>>> per meal. ASS-TO-MOUTH! PECKER!
>>>
>>>> They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on
>>>> special.
>>> Thats FUCKING BITCH-QUEEN! still less than FUCKING CORNHOLER! LOVE
>>> TRUNCHEON! $5 per meal FUCKING KNOB! if you eat FUCKING BUTTHEAD!
>>> TOWN-TRAMP! half a pound FUCKING LOVE MELONS! per meal. ARSE GREASE!
>>> FUCK-ROD! PENIS!
>>>
>>> And FUCKING QUEER! a curry costs a FUCKING LOVE LOG! BAPS! COCK
>>> TEASER! ANAL COPULATOR! hell of a lot FUCKING SCUMBAG! BLIND SNAKE!
>>> less than that per FUCKING CLITTY! BOUNCER! ANAL COLLAR!
>>> FUDDY-DUDDY! meal. NYMPHO! PUSSY-POKER! DICKBREATH! BUTT! GODDAM!
>>>
>>>> Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some
>>>> expiring meat available.
>>>> I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as
>>>> they
>>>> cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about
>>>> $1/doz.
>>> Even FUCKING CREAM-JUGS! at $2/doz thats FUCKING PIMPLE! JOCKSTRAP! a
>>> lot less FUCKING ARSE PIRATE! than $5 per FUCKING FLESH INJECTION!
>>> COCKROACH! BANGING FUDGE! CIRCUS BOY! BUM HOLE! BUTT BREATH! FUCKING
>>> BITCH! meal. BUNNY FUCK! PIECE-OF-FLUFF! GODDAMMIT! PUSTULE! LOVE
>>> TOOL!
>>
>> When we want your advice we will rattle on the bars of your cage!
>
> So stupid that it cant even manage to work out who is the troll.
>
>
You mean like "sam jones" with a .ru email and an Australian IP?


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:40 pm
From: Old_Timer


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:26:02 -0500, High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Ken wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 3:51 am, Gina <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>>
>>
>> Every time I almost manage to the ends meet, someone screws with me
>> and moves the ends.
>>
>> In reality, don't have much of a problem in that area.
>> The hovel is paid for, my SO and I split most of the other expenses
>> (she's on SSD), have a few bucks in the bank or in coffee cans in the
>> backyard.
>>
>> If only I could remember where I buried 'em, I'd be rich
>
>If you don't let your "ends" get too far apart, the meeting thing gets
>a whole lot easier.
>I think people who were once really poor fare better when money
>becomes a bit tight.
>The skills you learn from being poor last a lifetime.
>Saving money is more important now than ever.
>Of course - gold might be a better thing to save at the rate our
>dollar is being driven down.
>
>Dorothy

When I was young and poor I developed a host of habits of frugality.

Now that I am no longer poor (or young) I have been unable to change
many of those habits.

Old_Timer

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:45 pm
From: Gene S. Berkowitz


In article <LNKdnR_PCIVyahzVnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
nixon.d@comcast.net says...

>
> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety of
> frugalities !!!
>
> But, please tell me-- what, exactly, is the "correct" amount of toothpaste
> to use?? I don't have all that many teeth left so I think I should be
> authorized to use a rather small amount of the toothpaste.

Generally, a blob the size of a garden pea should be plenty.

When toothpaste was first sold in tubes, the opening was made with a
narrow slot in it, so that the toothpaste would come out as a flat
ribbon. Over the years, marketing changed that to a plump caterpillar-
shaped blob, with a soft-serve ice-cream tip garnish on the end.

--Gene


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:02 pm
From: durie@clear.net.nz


Need a shopping list and go without your partner/husband as he will
always add extra items and then be surprised at the cost at the
checkout!


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TOPIC: How much does AC cost you?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 9:10 pm
From: timeOday


James wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:01 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>> I get 30 mpg not using AC but only 25 mpg with it on.
>> That's contrary to any study I've read, unless perhaps you are driving
>> with your windows closed. Any references?
>>
>> At best, I see a 15% variation in tank-to-tank mileage, quite
>> consistently throughout the year. I've also found no significant
>> differences comparing spring, fall, winter & summer gas mileage.
>>
>> Consequently, I'm reluctant to believe there is any significant
>> difference.
>
> Well, 30 less 15% is about 25.
>
> BTW I also notice a lot less power with the AC on so I have to shift
> gears differently.


In this guy's jeep A/C increased fuel consumption by 5%.
<http://www.omninerd.com/articles/Improve_MPG_The_Factors_Affecting_Fuel_Efficiency>
There's a lot of info on that page.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:25 pm
From: Dan Birchall


bashley101+usenet@gmail.com (The Real Bev) wrote:
> I'm sorry, I know it's evil to repeat spam, but this is one of the best
> ones I've ever read. I have no idea at all what he's trying to sell and
> can't even make a guess!
>
> cheng wrote:
>
> > Now registers the member to bestow 50 integrals! PayPal

Obviously he's selling integrals. Didn't you take calculus? :)

--
"Infirm indeed are my bones, and the hair of my head doth glisten with
grey: but never am I unblest."

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