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* The leeches are reaching for more - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c1f04e2aa1094da5?hl=en
* Describe American teenagers' lives to a 16-year-old Chinese girl - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ffeca262d62ceac?hl=en
* still making up statistics - 4 messages, 2 authors
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* Buying clothes off eBay? - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: The leeches are reaching for more
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c1f04e2aa1094da5?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 9:01 pm
From: Gordon
Back in the early '70's my father had a mortgage, an electric bill
a phone bill, a water bill and once a year we filled up the heating oil
tank.
Sewer and garbage was paid from taxes.
Today, I have a Mortgage, an electric bill, a phone bill,
a cell phone bill, an internet access bill, I could have
a cable TV bill, A water + sewer bill, a garbage collection
bill. Basicly, more services to pay for.
Of course it's not that simple.
Cable TV wants you to buy a priemium package,
Cell phone wants to tack on IM, chat, and data
packages,
And then there are those web sites like Classmates.com
Facebook, Geneology.com, 2nd life, (and for my daughter)
Club penguine, Bratz, Petz.com, etc that want to
sell priemium membership.
Hoo Boy! The leeches are everywhere!
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 9:07 pm
From: "Kadaitcha Man"
Gordon, ye fool-born fools on both sides, four of thy five wits went
halting off, and now is the whole man governed with one, ye tattled:
> Back in the early '70's my father had a mortgage, an electric bill
> a phone bill, a water bill and once a year we filled up the heating oil
> tank. Sewer and garbage was paid from taxes.
When ah were a lad, we lived in t'hole in middle o'road...
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:46 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> Back in the early '70's my father had a mortgage, an electric bill a
> phone bill, a water bill and once a year we filled up the heating oil tank.
> Sewer and garbage was paid from taxes.
> Today, I have a Mortgage, an electric bill, a phone bill, a cell phone
> bill, an internet access bill, I could have a cable TV bill, A water +
> sewer bill, a garbage collection bill. Basicly, more services to pay for.
Your problem.
> Of course it's not that simple.
> Cable TV wants you to buy a priemium package,
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to do that.
If someone is doing that, call the cops.
> Cell phone wants to tack on IM, chat, and data packages,
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to do that.
If someone is doing that, call the cops.
> And then there are those web sites like Classmates.com Facebook,
> Geneology.com, 2nd life, (and for my daughter) Club penguine, Bratz,
> Petz.com, etc that want to sell priemium membership.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy that.
If someone is doing that, call the cops.
> Hoo Boy! The leeches are everywhere!
Corse there was nothing like that in the 70s, eh ?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed, ye hedge-born hell's black intelligencer, weed this wormwood
from your unfruitful brain, ye purred:
> Am I having schizoid paranoia or just existential blues?
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TOPIC: Describe American teenagers' lives to a 16-year-old Chinese girl
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ffeca262d62ceac?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 9:50 pm
From: "mehlREMOVETHIS@cyvest.com"
Hello --
This topic is probably off-base for this group. I am posting it first
here because I have found pretty level-headed advice in this group and
maybe readers can help me on this question. Please tell me if you can
suggest other newsgroups better suited to this question.
A Chinese 16-year-old girl I met in China a year ago wants me to tell
her something about American teenagers. My children are long past
that age and I need to acquire some cultural awareness quickly.
Can anyone suggest safe newsgroups, blogs or websites that present
factual information about American teenage life that I could recommend
she browse?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Larry Mehl
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
mehl@cyvest.com <mehl@cyvest.com> wrote
> Hello --
Goodbye --
> This topic is probably off-base for this group.
Yep.
> I am posting it first here because I have found pretty level-headed advice
> in this group and maybe readers can help me on this question. Please tell
> me if you can suggest other newsgroups better suited to this question.
Any of them.
> A Chinese 16-year-old girl I met in China a year ago wants me to tell
> her something about American teenagers. My children are long past
> that age and I need to acquire some cultural awareness quickly.
Not even possible.
> Can anyone suggest safe newsgroups, blogs or websites that present factual
> information about American teenage life that I could recommend she browse?
Nope.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
No thanks for your off topic post.
> Larry Mehl
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:57 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed, ye worm-infested bloody nero, you kiss by the book, ye
disputed:
> All I want is a warm bed and a kind word.
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TOPIC: still making up statistics
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb065ec0061ab7cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:51 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:
>>> clams_casino wrote:
>>>
>>>> nearly 1% of homes are currently in foreclosure - over 6% of
>>>> mortgages are in default.
>>>>
>>> How many of these were by morons who were trying to keep up with the
>>> Joneses'? Doesn't anyone take responsibility anymore? And don't
>>> blame mortgage lenders. Democrats, including Obama in his previous
>>> roles, had a lot to do with forcing banks to give mortgages to
>>> people who really shouldn't have had them. Responsible people who took out
>>> loans and are paying them back faithfully are really the ones
>>> getting screwed,
>>
>> Nope, not when interest rates are essentially set by the fed.
>>
>>> along with taxpayers having to bail out those whose money IQ is
>>> somewhere between 1 and 50.
>> No one is bailing them out.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/washington/11cnd-housing.html?hp
> The bill would authorize the Federal Housing Administration to insure up to $300 billion in refinanced mortgages,
> enabling borrowers now saddled with unaffordable loans to assume more manageable 30-year fixed-rate loans.
That aint bailing them out, thats stopping them getting shafted by spivs and con men.
> To take part in the program, lenders would have to lower each debt obligation to 90 percent of a home's current value
> and also make a payment to an insurance fund to insulate taxpayers against losses from any future defaults.
And thats a hell of a lot better than getting nothing for the house.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> T wrote
>>>>>>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>>>>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly
>>>>>>>>>> unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
>>>>>>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>>>>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will
>>>>>>>>> recover.
>>>>>>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
>>>>>>>> The economy as a whole is screwed. If you hadn't noticed the
>>>>>>>> unemployment rate is being reported as 5.7% or so which in
>>>>>>>> reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number since that
>>>>>>>> particular statistic only records NEW filings.
>>>>>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to a recent Forbes article, " The misery index - the
>>>>>>> sum of the inflation and unemployment rates - is at a 15-year
>>>>>>> high, with no relief in sight."
>>>>>> Do the decent thing and hang yourself or sumfin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to CNNMoney, "planned job cuts announced by employers
>>>>>>> in July jumped 26% to 103,312 from 81,755 announced in June.
>>>>>>> That's up 141% from a year ago, when employers announced
>>>>>>> planned job cuts totaling 42,897."
>>>>>> A fart in the bath in total employment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the US Dept Labor - July 2008, " Over the past 12
>>>>>>> months, the number of unemployed persons has increased by 1.6
>>>>>>> million" -
>>>>>> And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> July was the seventh straight month of job losses.
>>>>>> And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%
>>>>> Links to these facts have been repeated over and over
>>>> You're lying, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> In the US if you are unemployed during a reporting period but
>>>>> simply scan ads without applying for a job you are not considered
>>>>> to be unemployed during that period.
>>
>>>> You're lying, as always.
>>>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>
>>> From the very link you posted
>>
>> Still true, liar.
>>
>>> Passive methods of jobsearch do not result in jobseekers actually
>>> contacting potential employers, and therefore are not acceptable
>>> for classifying persons as unemployed.
>>
>> You're lying, as always.
>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>
>>> These would include such things as attending a job training program
>>> or course or merely reading the want ads.
>>
>> You're lying, as always.
>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>
>>>>> The major part of unemployment comes from people registering at
>>>>> state employment offices,something one needs to do when they are
>>>>> getting unemployment benefits. Since most jobs at those offices
>>>>> are the bottom of the barrel many stop registering when benefits run
>>>>> out.
>>
>>>> You're lying, as always.
>>>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>
>>>>> For the last few years the weekly number of new jobless claims
>>>>> has regularly exceeded the monthly number of jobs created.
>>
>>>> Another bare faced pig ignorant lie. Thats only happened quite
>>>> recently.
>>
>>> http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/24/news/economy/jobless_claims/index.htm
>>
>> Doesnt say anything like your lie, liar.
>>
>>> February 24, 2005: 9:05 AM EST
>>
>>> NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Weekly jobless claims rose last week, the
>>> government said Thursday in reporting a figure that was higher than
>>> forecasts.
>>
>> Irrelevant to your lie, liar.
>>
>>> New claims for state unemployment benefits rose to 312,000 in the
>>> week ended Feb. 19 from a revised 303,000 the prior week.
>>
>> Irrelevant to your lie, liar.
>>
>>> http://www.amtonline.org/document_display.cfm/document_id/617/section_id/102/262000newjobscreatedinfebruary2005
>>
>> Irrelevant to your lie, liar.
>>
>>> The Bureau of Labor Statistics announced that 262,000 new payroll
>>> jobs were created in February 2005. Since May 2003, the economy has
>>> created over 3 million jobs. We have seen steady jobs gains for
>>> each of the last twenty-one months - and more Americans are working
>>> than ever before.
>>
>> Irrelevant to your lie, liar.
> Let's see.
Not even possible for you, liar. You wanked yourself blind LONG ago.
> I state the new weekly jobless claims regularly exceed monthly jobs created.
We can see that that isnt in fact what you stated.
> Ros said that is a recent thing.
And I didnt say that either.
> I post two links, one shows 262,000 new jobs created in Feb.,2005 while the
> other shows 312,000 new unemployment claims for one week in that month.
Even a terminal fuckwit race track bum should be able to work out that thats just
ONE month and so doesnt qualify as anything like what you actually claimed, liar.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed, ye demonic piece of scarlet, observe thyself, for the love of
mockery, ye dispensed:
> After reading the symptoms of a disease, why do I start to think I
> have the disease?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed, ye sloppy witch, despised substance of divinest show, ye
penned:
> Do all women just lie there and make crappy little ohh noises during
> sex? My g/f doesn't seem to do anything, I'm worried that I am crap in
> bed! She is my first. help! any tips on how to be better any
> techniques to try???
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TOPIC: Buying clothes off eBay?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:34 pm
From: terryc
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:50:09 -0500, me wrote:
> Why the heck they charge so much for shipping on
> everything tho?
Often, that is where their profit is.
when ever you buy anything that requires shipping/postage, make sure you
include that in "the cost" when comparing sources.
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