Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 11 topics

Thursday, August 28, 2008

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TOPIC: Blancpain Le Brassus Mens Watch 4276.3642A.55B Recommendation Discount
Watches
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 9:12 pm
From: Omega

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TOPIC: Defense: Woman too obese to kill nephew
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 12:49 am
From: Magda

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:36:17 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Aug 27, 5:25 pm, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
... > Al Bundy <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote innews:34e8a4ea-7847-4aa8-a9e7-b65c576ad35f@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
... >
... >
... >
... >
... >
... > > Larry wrote:
... > >>http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/27/obese.prosecution.ap/index.html
... >
... > >> Defense: Woman too obese to kill nephew
... >
... > >> Story Highlights
... >
... > >> * Attorney claims half-ton woman was not physically capable of
... > >> killing nephew
... > >> * Eliseo Gonzalez Jr. died after being struck at least twice in head,
... > >> prosecutor says
... > >> * Mayra Rosales placed under house arrest because jail cell is not
... > >> big enough for her
... >
... > >> EDINBURG, Texas (AP) -- A nearly half-ton Texas woman charged in the
... > >> death of her toddler nephew couldn't have beaten the boy to death
... > >> because of her limited movement from weight problems, her attorney
... > >> said Tuesday.
... >
... > >> Mayra Rosales, who weighs nearly 1,000 pounds, was indicted last week
... > >> on capital murder charges in the death of Eliseo Gonzalez Jr.
... > >> Prosecutors said the 2-year-old boy died after being struck at least
... > >> twice in the head while in the care of Rosales, who is bedridden.
... >
... > >> Jamie Rosales, the boy's 20-year-old mother, believes the death was
... > >> possibly caused by the morbidly obese woman rolling onto the toddler,
... > >> said Oscar Vega, her attorney. She faces one felony count of injury
... > >> to a child, which carries a life sentence and 10,000 in fines.
... >
... > >> "She doesn't believe her sister intentionally did anything to her
... > >> child," Vega told The Associated Press.
... >
... > >> A state district judge put Mayra Rosales, 27, under house arrest
... > >> Monday because the county jail lacks a large enough cell or necessary
... > >> medical resources. She is required to wear a global-positioning
... > >> tracker until her trial.
... >
... > >> Sergio Valdez, Mayra Rosales' attorney, said she lacks the movement
... > >> in her arms to have killed the child, calling it an "impossibility."
... >
... > >> "She is not physically capable of having committed those acts,"
... > >> Valdez said.
... >
... > >> Valdez said R sales suffers from a thyroid problem that has caused
... > >> her to put on hundreds of pounds over the past three to four years
... > >> and has been bedridden for more than a year.
... >
... > >> The stress of the arrest and charges has exacerbated the poor health
... > >> of Mayra Rosales, who also suffers from a "life-threatening" ailment
... > >> he would not disclose, Valdez said.
... >
... > >> "This whole ordeal has taken a very negative effect on her,
... > >> emotionally and physically," Valdez said. "She wants this to be over.
... > >> She wants to be vindicated."
... >
... > >> Vega said Jamie Rosales has a learning disability and will plead not
... > >> guilty.
... >
... > >> He declined to say where his client was the day of her son's death,
... > >> but said he knew of no order forbidding the boy to be watched by his
... > >> aunt.
... >
... > > It's not for me to stand in judgment. All I can do is make
... > > observations.
... >
... > > Obviously, they must make extensions for tethers the way they do for
... > > seat belts. I thought they were semi-permanently attached. If the case
... > > doesn't go to court soon, she will outgrow it and have medical
... > > problems and a lawsuit.
... >
... > > If Mayra weighs 1000# and is 27 years old, then the sister Jamie
... > > weighs 741 and the kid weighs 74# on a prorated basis. Bet I'm not far
... > > off either. If you have a thyroid problem, does that allow your body
... > > to pull calories out of the air? No. You have to have somebody
... > > bringing those cheeseburgers to you and funneling them in.
... >
... > Thyroid controls appetite.
...
... I have a thyroid problem. I control what I eat. A thyroid problem
... doesn't make one stupid.

Same here - moreover, when I was hypo I was never/seldom hungry. Getting fat without
eating was a nightmare.

=====
It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

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TOPIC: Longines Master Collection Mens Watch L2.665.4.51.6 Recommendation
Discount Watches
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 12:56 am
From: Chanel

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TOPIC: Vote for John McCain.. a mans man...not some pointy nose, smart guy.
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 2:27 am
From: clams_casino

Shawn Hirn wrote:

>>
>>On the other hand, shouldn't all income be taxed? It never seemed just
>>for the lower income groups to typically pay their medical using
>>after-tax money while the upper income groups typically get nearly free
>>health care that is tax free. Why should medical benefits be treated
>>any different from earned income?
>>
>>
>
>Upper income people aren't the only beneficiaries of employee-sponsored
>healthcare plans. Medical care is not income, it is essential to our
>survival, along with some other things, which is why we already get a
>personal deduction right off the top on our income to cover basic living
>expenses beyond health care.
>
>

Granted, free healthcare is not just enjoyed by the upper class, but
whereas most upper class enjoy tax free, essentially free / highly
subsidized heathcare, most lower classes are forced to purchase their
healthcare via post tax dollars.

Medical care itself is not income, but the $10-15k coverage commonly
provided tax free is equivalent to income.

It's a generous subsidy (essentially welfare), primarily enjoyed by the
more highly paid.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 10:56 am
From: Cindy Hamilton

On Aug 28, 5:27 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Shawn Hirn wrote:
>
> >>On the other hand, shouldn't all income be taxed? It never seemed just
> >>for the lower income groups to typically pay their medical using
> >>after-tax money while the upper income groups typically get nearly free
> >>health care that is tax free. Why should medical benefits be treated
> >>any different from earned income?
>
> >Upper income people aren't the only beneficiaries of employee-sponsored
> >healthcare plans. Medical care is not income, it is essential to our
> >survival, along with some other things, which is why we already get a
> >personal deduction right off the top on our income to cover basic living
> >expenses beyond health care.
>
> Granted, free healthcare is not just enjoyed by the upper class, but
> whereas most upper class enjoy tax free, essentially free / highly
> subsidized heathcare, most lower classes are forced to purchase their
> healthcare via post tax dollars.
>
> Medical care itself is not income, but the $10-15k coverage commonly
> provided tax free is equivalent to income.
>
> It's a generous subsidy (essentially welfare), primarily enjoyed by the
> more highly paid

Goodness, if it weren't for perks like that, what would be the point
of
getting an education and improving oneself? Let's all slide down to
the
least common denominator just so that everything will be fair.

Cindy Hamilton

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 11:28 am
From: clams_casino

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>On Aug 28, 5:27 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Shawn Hirn wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>On the other hand, shouldn't all income be taxed? It never seemed just
>>>>for the lower income groups to typically pay their medical using
>>>>after-tax money while the upper income groups typically get nearly free
>>>>health care that is tax free. Why should medical benefits be treated
>>>>any different from earned income?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Upper income people aren't the only beneficiaries of employee-sponsored
>>>healthcare plans. Medical care is not income, it is essential to our
>>>survival, along with some other things, which is why we already get a
>>>personal deduction right off the top on our income to cover basic living
>>>expenses beyond health care.
>>>
>>>
>>Granted, free healthcare is not just enjoyed by the upper class, but
>>whereas most upper class enjoy tax free, essentially free / highly
>>subsidized heathcare, most lower classes are forced to purchase their
>>healthcare via post tax dollars.
>>
>>Medical care itself is not income, but the $10-15k coverage commonly
>>provided tax free is equivalent to income.
>>
>>It's a generous subsidy (essentially welfare), primarily enjoyed by the
>>more highly paid
>>
>>
>
>Goodness, if it weren't for perks like that, what would be the point
>of
>getting an education and improving oneself? Let's all slide down to
>the
>least common denominator just so that everything will be fair.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
>

So subsidies are OK for those who in the upper class, but subsidies for
those in the lower income brackets are welfare.

I get it.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 11:42 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 28, 5:27 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> Shawn Hirn wrote:
>>
>>>> On the other hand, shouldn't all income be taxed? It never seemed
>>>> just for the lower income groups to typically pay their medical
>>>> using after-tax money while the upper income groups typically get
>>>> nearly free health care that is tax free. Why should medical
>>>> benefits be treated any different from earned income?
>>
>>> Upper income people aren't the only beneficiaries of
>>> employee-sponsored healthcare plans. Medical care is not income, it
>>> is essential to our survival, along with some other things, which
>>> is why we already get a personal deduction right off the top on our
>>> income to cover basic living expenses beyond health care.
>>
>> Granted, free healthcare is not just enjoyed by the upper class, but
>> whereas most upper class enjoy tax free, essentially free / highly
>> subsidized heathcare, most lower classes are forced to purchase their
>> healthcare via post tax dollars.
>>
>> Medical care itself is not income, but the $10-15k coverage commonly
>> provided tax free is equivalent to income.
>>
>> It's a generous subsidy (essentially welfare), primarily enjoyed by
>> the more highly paid

> Goodness, if it weren't for perks like that, what would be
> the point of getting an education and improving oneself?

You get a lot more choice about what you spend one hell of a chunk of your 'life' doing.

> Let's all slide down to the least common denominator just so that everything will be fair.

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TOPIC: Is a person's weight really a reliable indicator of overall health?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 3:59 am
From: jenius

On Aug 24, 5:37 pm, e...@nowhere.com (Emu) wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, "Robin King" <maplet...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Out of sympathy for the trolls, who have not had Lady Veteran to
> >rag on for a few days (they are going through withdrawal and starting
> >to troll each other!), here is an on-topic article:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0leLrjA20xo
>
> You got us there. How many gold medals did she win in the Olympics?

how can your question be relevant in any way? its not about medals,
its about fitness. take that head out of the sand, Emu. jenius

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 8:42 am
From: Christopher Helms

On Aug 24, 4:37 pm, e...@nowhere.com (Emu) wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, "Robin King" <maplet...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Out of sympathy for the trolls, who have not had Lady Veteran to
> >rag on for a few days (they are going through withdrawal and starting
> >to troll each other!), here is an on-topic article:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0leLrjA20xo
>
> You got us there. How many gold medals did she win in the Olympics?

You can't be waddling around, blown up like the Bullwinkle float in
The Macy's Parade and calling yourself fit at the same time. She's
obviously not exercising enough to deal with the cookies, peanut
butter M&M's, Ben & Jerry's Chubby Hubby and Double bacon and cheese
Whoppers that must surely be lurking around in her "diet." "Eating
routine" is probably a more accurate term than "diet," since she's not
even trying to diet. You don't just get John Candy fat without people
knowing you by your first name down at the Dairy Queen. There has to
be slack either on the eating side or the moving around side. It's
obviously both in her case, even though I'm not really faulting her
for being a disgusting butterball. We live in a land where fattening
food is widely, easily available and usually pretty damned cheap. It's
easy to succumb to temptation. In some cases over and over and over
again, obviously. But we should keep the term "Fit" out of this. She's
obviously making pretty regular trips to Bob Evans, The Outback
Steakhouse or someplace(s) that are nullifying whatever limited good
those trips to the gym are doing her. She's a tub and there's no
getting around it.

She's not fit. Let's not delude ourselves, that's all I'm saying.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 8:46 am
From: Christopher Helms

If there was a 100 meter freestyle with a huge Fishermans Platter,
hushpuppies, slaw and a two liter bottle of ice cold Pepsi waiting at
the end, she'd beat Michael Phelps like a redheaded stepchild.

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TOPIC: I shrunk my new coat
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 4:57 am
From: nandkaa@gmail.com

Oh my,I shrunk my new coat. I used washine mashine with cold
water....!
how to solve this problem at home? Can i wash it again with hot water?
or ...
any suggestion?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 6:57 am
From: curly'q

nandkaa@gmail.com wrote:
> Oh my,I shrunk my new coat. I used washine mashine with cold
> water....!
> how to solve this problem at home? Can i wash it again with hot water?
> or ...
> any suggestion?

Lose some weight?

Curly

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TOPIC: Questions About Stand Alone DSL
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 5:02 am
From: Windswept@Home (Jack)

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:19:36 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:08:43 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Jack wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:24:46 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Just order it from Verizon (and take advantage of their current
>> >> >deal to give you the first 6 months free, be sure to ask for
>> >> >it).
>> >>
>> >> Huh?
>> >>
>> >> The Internet offer is for the first month free and then $19.99
>> >> monthly.
>> >>
>> >> The telephone offer is for no months free and $21.95 monthly.
>> >>
>> >> They'll tell me to go ______ myself.
>> >
>> >Check out this discussion on Fatwallet:
>> >
>> >http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18&threadid=853672
>> >
>> >Worst case they'll say "Huh?" Best case they'll look it up and
>> >tell you that you qualify.
>> >
>> >If you choose not to believe me, be my guest. Nice to see you
>> >ignored the rest of my post.
>> >
>> >BTW, existing customers out of contract can get a similar deal,
>> >5 months free.
>> >
>> >Bill
>>
>> You think that I haven't dialed-in my no. at the Verizon site? No
>> such offer was forthcoming.
>
>Well then call and tell them that you've heard that this offer
>is available and that you want it. I don't know how much more
>proof I have to give you before you believe me that the deal
>DOES exist.

I did.

It requires VoiP

At additional cost.

>> As for the rest of your earlier post .... I know that many people use
>> Verizon DSL but the % of online complaints exceed those pertaining to
>> dial-up. I'm not tech-savvy and have to rely on support. Hell, even
>> the Verizon telephone saleswoman was snotty and didn't seem to care
>> whether I signed-up.
>
>Probably because you asked so many stupid questions and kept
>acting like you were the first person to ever sign up for DSL.
>The odds are that your DSL will work fine and all of this
>worrying will have been a waste. My 80 year old father installed
>DSL and has no problems with it.

Nope. When she revealed that the offer was for $21.95, I advised her
that the online offer was $19.95 with first month free.

At that point she copped an attitude.

I gotta stop asking those stupid questions.

>And you're always going to be able to find people complaining if
>you look for them. I'm surprised there are many Verizon dialup
>users anymore so comparing the complaint numbers is really
>meaningless.

Meaningless to you.

Speak for y'self, sonny.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 5:32 am
From: George

Jack wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:19:36 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> Jack wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:08:43 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:24:46 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just order it from Verizon (and take advantage of their current
>>>>>> deal to give you the first 6 months free, be sure to ask for
>>>>>> it).
>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Internet offer is for the first month free and then $19.99
>>>>> monthly.
>>>>>
>>>>> The telephone offer is for no months free and $21.95 monthly.
>>>>>
>>>>> They'll tell me to go ______ myself.
>>>> Check out this discussion on Fatwallet:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18&threadid=853672
>>>>
>>>> Worst case they'll say "Huh?" Best case they'll look it up and
>>>> tell you that you qualify.
>>>>
>>>> If you choose not to believe me, be my guest. Nice to see you
>>>> ignored the rest of my post.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, existing customers out of contract can get a similar deal,
>>>> 5 months free.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>> You think that I haven't dialed-in my no. at the Verizon site? No
>>> such offer was forthcoming.
>> Well then call and tell them that you've heard that this offer
>> is available and that you want it. I don't know how much more
>> proof I have to give you before you believe me that the deal
>> DOES exist.
>
> I did.
>
> It requires VoiP
>
> At additional cost.
>
>
>>> As for the rest of your earlier post .... I know that many people use
>>> Verizon DSL but the % of online complaints exceed those pertaining to
>>> dial-up. I'm not tech-savvy and have to rely on support. Hell, even
>>> the Verizon telephone saleswoman was snotty and didn't seem to care
>>> whether I signed-up.
>> Probably because you asked so many stupid questions and kept
>> acting like you were the first person to ever sign up for DSL.
>> The odds are that your DSL will work fine and all of this
>> worrying will have been a waste. My 80 year old father installed
>> DSL and has no problems with it.
>
> Nope. When she revealed that the offer was for $21.95, I advised her
> that the online offer was $19.95 with first month free.
>
> At that point she copped an attitude.

They offered a lower price on line for the do it yourself version where
you enter your own order. I don't see any particular problem about them
passing on the savings to you.

From reading this thread it really sounds like you have overthought a
routine everyday thing that works well for millions of users especially
since you have 30 days to just put the modem back in the box and quit
with no cost. This isn't like you are going to have say a surgical
procedure where some irreversible state will exist after the procedure.

>
> I gotta stop asking those stupid questions.
>
>> And you're always going to be able to find people complaining if
>> you look for them. I'm surprised there are many Verizon dialup
>> users anymore so comparing the complaint numbers is really
>> meaningless.
>
> Meaningless to you.
>
> Speak for y'self, sonny.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 6:56 am
From: Windswept@Home (Jack)

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:32:06 -0400, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Jack wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:19:36 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jack wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:08:43 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:24:46 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just order it from Verizon (and take advantage of their current
>>>>>>> deal to give you the first 6 months free, be sure to ask for
>>>>>>> it).
>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Internet offer is for the first month free and then $19.99
>>>>>> monthly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The telephone offer is for no months free and $21.95 monthly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They'll tell me to go ______ myself.
>>>>> Check out this discussion on Fatwallet:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18&threadid=853672
>>>>>
>>>>> Worst case they'll say "Huh?" Best case they'll look it up and
>>>>> tell you that you qualify.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you choose not to believe me, be my guest. Nice to see you
>>>>> ignored the rest of my post.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, existing customers out of contract can get a similar deal,
>>>>> 5 months free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>> You think that I haven't dialed-in my no. at the Verizon site? No
>>>> such offer was forthcoming.
>>> Well then call and tell them that you've heard that this offer
>>> is available and that you want it. I don't know how much more
>>> proof I have to give you before you believe me that the deal
>>> DOES exist.
>>
>> I did.
>>
>> It requires VoiP
>>
>> At additional cost.
>>
>>
>>>> As for the rest of your earlier post .... I know that many people use
>>>> Verizon DSL but the % of online complaints exceed those pertaining to
>>>> dial-up. I'm not tech-savvy and have to rely on support. Hell, even
>>>> the Verizon telephone saleswoman was snotty and didn't seem to care
>>>> whether I signed-up.
>>> Probably because you asked so many stupid questions and kept
>>> acting like you were the first person to ever sign up for DSL.
>>> The odds are that your DSL will work fine and all of this
>>> worrying will have been a waste. My 80 year old father installed
>>> DSL and has no problems with it.
>>
>> Nope. When she revealed that the offer was for $21.95, I advised her
>> that the online offer was $19.95 with first month free.
>>
>> At that point she copped an attitude.
>
>
>They offered a lower price on line for the do it yourself version where
>you enter your own order. I don't see any particular problem about them
>passing on the savings to you.

Nope.

I don't either.

> From reading this thread it really sounds like you have overthought a
>routine everyday thing that works well for millions of users especially
>since you have 30 days to just put the modem back in the box and quit
>with no cost. This isn't like you are going to have say a surgical
>procedure where some irreversible state will exist after the procedure.

Probably right.

But if newsgroups are to inform, I'll ask questions as I see fit, even
though they are stupid to those of you who are technologically-savvy.

In another group, I answer medico-legal questions about a govt.
disability program in which I had 30 years experience.

Some people repeat their questions, and some questions seem so basic,
but I don't consider any sincere question as being stupid.

If you don't like my questions, just ignore any posts from "Jack."

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TOPIC: Ample Hygiene for Ample People - Booklet
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/dc8fc27fa46ffb27?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 6:56 am
From: Ragnar

On Aug 27, 1:18 pm, Magda
<pikrodafni@death_to_spammers_noos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:02:41 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, Ragnar
> <Ragnarsgh...@hotmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... Don't deny the truth, you just end uo looking stupid. Europeans have
> ... bad body odor problems, end of story.
> ... It say's it all when nightclubs in London and Paris, after instituting
> ... smoking bans have had to spray perfume into the HVAC systems to cover
> ... the smell of Euro body stank. LOL.
> ...
> ... Ragnar
>
> As long as you think so we won't see your ugly face and huge bulk over here. Paris is
> really not good for you; the trailer park full of obese stinking people is. Yay! :))
>
Boy you seem to know a lot about trailer parks and their denizens. Why
is that, personal experience??? Why don't you clue us all in because
I for one have never lived or even been to one. Such is the curse of
being a productive professional.

BTW, I notice you didn't come up with any counter arguments to my
statement. I guess there is no denying the facts, uh?

Ragnar

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 7:18 am
From: Franco Bolli

On Aug 27, 6:57 am, e...@donotmailme.com (Erin) wrote:
> WTF?
>
> http://www.amplestuff.com/amplehygieneforamplepeople-booklet.aspx
>
> 20-page booklet gives you a personal regimen that can help you feel fresh
> all day. It's full of tips for dealing with odor problems, fold
> irritations, chafing, difficulty in reaching, and more! By Nancy Summer.
> Willendorf Press.

Isn't this the booklet with the forward by Kris Baker and Maryanne
Kehog???

-Franco

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 7:49 am
From: Ragnar

On Aug 27, 2:53 pm, ch...@nospamplz.com (Chris) wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Ragnar <Ragnarsgh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Why is it that you are perplexed? Some people of size have special
> >needs. Understanding that is not rocket science.
>
> Quit trying to sell your ass wiping dwarf services here. No one is
> interested in your spam, Ragtard.

Come on dude, I'm just trying to get you off welfare and into a job.
You gotta take the steps to help yourself before thing can get any
better.

Ragnar

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 9:43 am
From: Magda

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:56:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, Ragnar
<Ragnarsghost@hotmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Aug 27, 1:18 pm, Magda
... <pikrodafni@death_to_spammers_noos.fr.invalid> wrote:
... > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:02:41 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, Ragnar
... > <Ragnarsgh...@hotmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ...
... > ... Don't deny the truth, you just end uo looking stupid. Europeans have
... > ... bad body odor problems, end of story.
... > ... It say's it all when nightclubs in London and Paris, after instituting
... > ... smoking bans have had to spray perfume into the HVAC systems to cover
... > ... the smell of Euro body stank. LOL.
... > ...
... > ... Ragnar
... >
... > As long as you think so we won't see your ugly face and huge bulk over here. Paris is
... > really not good for you; the trailer park full of obese stinking people is. Yay! :))
... >
... Boy you seem to know a lot about trailer parks and their denizens. Why
... is that, personal experience???

Unlike you, I learned about it *here*. These folks seem to know what they are talking
about (most of the time).

You were clearly born in one and know nothing more.

Why don't you clue us all in because
... I for one have never lived or even been to one. Such is the curse of
... being a productive professional.
...
... BTW, I notice you didn't come up with any counter arguments to my
... statement. I guess there is no denying the facts, uh?

Why, do you have any facts? Where did you buy them? Or did you steal them, like the
trailer park rag you are?

=====
It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

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TOPIC: Are higher prices making you fat?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88c508bcfae8806b?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 8:35 am
From: James

Do you tend to turn to less-healthy food as healthy food costs go up?.
I don't buy fruits any more except during sales.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 9:19 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f2aee32-0a05-4ccd-a686-f95126670703@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Do you tend to turn to less-healthy food as healthy food costs go up?.
> I don't buy fruits any more except during sales.

this is exactly what the usa's problem is: cheap food

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 12:42 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Do you tend to turn to less-healthy food as healthy food costs go up?.

Nope. There is always plenty of healthy cheap food.

> I don't buy fruits any more except during sales.

I hardly ever buy anything that isnt from a sale.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 1:02 pm
From: "JonquilJan"

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6hoddbFn91kcU1@mid.individual.net...
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you tend to turn to less-healthy food as healthy food costs go up?.
>
> Nope. There is always plenty of healthy cheap food.
>
> > I don't buy fruits any more except during sales.
>
> I hardly ever buy anything that isnt from a sale.
>
>

Same here. I shop the items on sale every week. Good source also the day
old bread racks (if you're going to use it within a few days) and the
surplus veggie/fruit rack (also if you're going to use it within a few
days). And coupons. Really use them when item is on sale and I can stock
up.

The small garden helps as well - especially for greens.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

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TOPIC: Whirl your mind
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b8e88065e2c02ad1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 9:39 am
From: kiran-travelfury

On Aug 26, 3:32 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> kiran-travelfury wrote:
>
> >Read some of my posts....
>
> Do You really believe any gives a rat's ass about your blog?

It depends on what you want to see and feel in your life-you
eventually get the same!

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