Tuesday, August 5, 2008

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misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* To juice or not. - 16 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb065ec0061ab7cd?hl=en
* does anybody here know anything abou freecycle - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/af17f8e5c05bfdd7?hl=en
* canned fruit - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1667ee407a6d8fc6?hl=en
* Part of frugal living may be spotting the next mess before it blind sides
you. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/82578bd2c1b6f6f9?hl=en
* Buying clothes off eBay? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/38862886a3ad24cf?hl=en
* REPOST: The Rod Speed Glossary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9d660de0dce23e92?hl=en

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TOPIC: To juice or not.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb065ec0061ab7cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:54 am
From: Pan


On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:34:42 -0400, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please piss off?
>
Well I could piss off of any thing you want.
As to being a motherfucker, yes I am, and what's your mothers name?

As you can see any one can be crude & ignorant, now did that make you
feel better?

And I will stay here as long as I want.

== 2 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:59 am
From: Pan


On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:24:41 GMT, blake murphy
<blakepmNOTTHIS@verizon.net> wrote:


>> The market recovered even after great depression.
>>
>
>yep, all we gotta do is wait ten years and start a world war. oh, wait,
>bush has already started on the latter.
>
>prosperity is just around the corner!
>
>your pal,
>blake

Is that your entire repertoire, Bush hate?

And Roosevelt's actions are now considered to have lengthen the
recovery.

== 3 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 12:00 pm
From: "cybercat"

"Pan" <ohco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o68h94d2id4qo715m0opv7ocag3o85u1fb@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:34:42 -0400, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please piss off?
>>
> Well I could piss off of any thing you want.
> As to being a motherfucker, yes I am, and what's your mothers name?
>
> As you can see any one can be crude & ignorant, now did that make you
> feel better?
>
> And I will stay here as long as I want.

It was just a request. I even said "please."


== 4 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 12:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6fpb0uFclchfU1@mid.individual.net...
>> T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote
>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
>>
>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly
>>>>> unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
>>
>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will
>>>> recover.
>>
>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
>>
>> Nope, completely realistic. The market recovered even after great
>> depression.
>>
>>> The economy as a whole is screwed.
>>
>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>
>>> If you hadn't noticed the unemployment rate is being reported as
>>> 5.7% or so
>>
>> Plenty of countrys would kill for that rate.
>>
>>> which in reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number
>>> since that particular statistic only records NEW filings.
>>
>> Pig ignorant lie.
>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>
>>> Then of course there are the energy prices.
>>
>> We've had higher real energy prices in the 70s and survived them
>> fine.
>>> Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you can't have missed
>>> that your electric rates probably went up by about 20%
>>
>> Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
>>
>>> and gasoline and oil have gone stratospheric.
>>
>> You wouldnt know what a real straophere was if one bit you on your
>> lard arse.
>>
>>> Energy costs impact food costs.
>>
>> They did in the 70s too and we survived that fine.
>>
>>> Communities are crumbling because of the mortgage crisis.
>>
>> Another lie. And we had the same claim about the S&L fiasco too and
>> survived that fine.
>>
>>> And people still believe we're just heading into a recession.
>>> I have news for you, we're heading into a depression
>>
>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that
>> claim. And we survived the last one fine, and can survive another one fine
>> too. It wouldnt even be as hard to survive as the last one was.
>>
>>> but nobody wants to say it because of the panic it would cause.
>>> We've now seen 8 bank failures in the last two weeks which is
>>> interesting in itself.
>>
>> And those with deposits in them have had their deposits federally
>> guaranteed.
>>
>>> I predict that BofA will be the first big bank to fail.
>>
>> It wont be allowed to fail, you watch.
>>
>>
>
> Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please piss off?

You wouldnt know what a real Republican motherfucker was if one bit you on your lard arse, child.


== 5 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 12:44 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Pan" <ohco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o68h94d2id4qo715m0opv7ocag3o85u1fb@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:34:42 -0400, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please
>>> piss off?
>> Well I could piss off of any thing you want.
>> As to being a motherfucker, yes I am, and what's your mothers name?
>>
>> As you can see any one can be crude & ignorant, now did that make
>> you feel better?
>>
>> And I will stay here as long as I want.
>
> It was just a request. I even said "please."

Fuck off. No please, thats an order.


== 6 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 12:47 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


blake murphy <blakepmNOTTHIS@verizon.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote
>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote

>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?

>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly
>>>>> unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.

>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will recover.

>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.

>> Nope, completely realistic. The market recovered even after great depression.

> yep, all we gotta do is wait ten years and start a world war.

The US didnt start a world war, and the market recovered
in a lot less than 10 years too, you stupid pig ignorant child.

> oh, wait, bush has already started on the latter.

Pity the market hadnt tanked when he did, child.

> prosperity is just around the corner!

You wouldnt know what real prosperity was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.


== 7 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 12:52 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> T wrote
>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote

>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?

>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.

>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will recover.

>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.

>> The economy as a whole is screwed. If you hadn't noticed the unemployment rate is being reported as 5.7% or so which
>> in reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number since that particular statistic only records NEW filings.

Pig ignorant lie.

> According to a recent Forbes article, " The misery index - the sum of the inflation and unemployment rates - is at a
> 15-year high, with no relief in sight."

Do the decent thing and hang yourself or sumfin.

> According to CNNMoney, "planned job cuts announced by employers in July jumped 26% to 103,312 from 81,755 announced in
> June. That's up 141% from a year ago, when employers announced planned job cuts totaling 42,897."

A fart in the bath in total employment.

> According to the US Dept Labor - July 2008, " Over the past 12 months,
> the number of unemployed persons has increased by 1.6 million" -

And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%

> July was the seventh straight month of job losses.

And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%


== 8 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 1:56 pm
From: "cybercat"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6frorsFcvj1vU1@mid.individual.net...
> cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6fpb0uFclchfU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote
>>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
>>>
>>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly
>>>>>> unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
>>>
>>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will
>>>>> recover.
>>>
>>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
>>>
>>> Nope, completely realistic. The market recovered even after great
>>> depression.
>>>
>>>> The economy as a whole is screwed.
>>>
>>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>>
>>>> If you hadn't noticed the unemployment rate is being reported as
>>>> 5.7% or so
>>>
>>> Plenty of countrys would kill for that rate.
>>>
>>>> which in reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number
>>>> since that particular statistic only records NEW filings.
>>>
>>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>>
>>>> Then of course there are the energy prices.
>>>
>>> We've had higher real energy prices in the 70s and survived them
>>> fine.
>>>> Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you can't have missed
>>>> that your electric rates probably went up by about 20%
>>>
>>> Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
>>>
>>>> and gasoline and oil have gone stratospheric.
>>>
>>> You wouldnt know what a real straophere was if one bit you on your
>>> lard arse.
>>>
>>>> Energy costs impact food costs.
>>>
>>> They did in the 70s too and we survived that fine.
>>>
>>>> Communities are crumbling because of the mortgage crisis.
>>>
>>> Another lie. And we had the same claim about the S&L fiasco too and
>>> survived that fine.
>>>
>>>> And people still believe we're just heading into a recession.
>>>> I have news for you, we're heading into a depression
>>>
>>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that
>>> claim. And we survived the last one fine, and can survive another one
>>> fine
>>> too. It wouldnt even be as hard to survive as the last one was.
>>>
>>>> but nobody wants to say it because of the panic it would cause.
>>>> We've now seen 8 bank failures in the last two weeks which is
>>>> interesting in itself.
>>>
>>> And those with deposits in them have had their deposits federally
>>> guaranteed.
>>>
>>>> I predict that BofA will be the first big bank to fail.
>>>
>>> It wont be allowed to fail, you watch.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please piss off?
>
> You wouldnt know what a real Republican motherfucker was if one bit you on
> your lard arse, child.
>

My favorite part is "Pig Ignorant Lie." You so eloquent.


== 9 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 1:58 pm
From: "cybercat"

"Pan" <ohco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nh8h945nrii57sm2uis3n5dni90le8n27u@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:24:41 GMT, blake murphy
> <blakepmNOTTHIS@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>> The market recovered even after great depression.
>>>
>>
>>yep, all we gotta do is wait ten years and start a world war. oh, wait,
>>bush has already started on the latter.
>>
>>prosperity is just around the corner!
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>
> Is that your entire repertoire, Bush hate?
>
> And Roosevelt's actions are now considered to have lengthen the
> recovery.

There's the "H" word again! Remember, Blake, if you don't like W you HATE
AMERICA.

What's a little unnecessary economic depression? A few million lives ruined,
some suicides, come on Man, it's the American Way!


== 10 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:31 pm
From: "Gregory Morrow"


cybercat wrote:

> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6frorsFcvj1vU1@mid.individual.net...
> > cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6fpb0uFclchfU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>> T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote
> >>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
> >>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> >>>
> >>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
> >>>
> >>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly
> >>>>>> unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
> >>>
> >>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
> >>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will
> >>>>> recover.
> >>>
> >>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
> >>>
> >>> Nope, completely realistic. The market recovered even after great
> >>> depression.
> >>>
> >>>> The economy as a whole is screwed.
> >>>
> >>> Pig ignorant lie.
> >>>
> >>>> If you hadn't noticed the unemployment rate is being reported as
> >>>> 5.7% or so
> >>>
> >>> Plenty of countrys would kill for that rate.
> >>>
> >>>> which in reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number
> >>>> since that particular statistic only records NEW filings.
> >>>
> >>> Pig ignorant lie.
> >>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
> >>>
> >>>> Then of course there are the energy prices.
> >>>
> >>> We've had higher real energy prices in the 70s and survived them
> >>> fine.
> >>>> Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you can't have missed
> >>>> that your electric rates probably went up by about 20%
> >>>
> >>> Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
> >>>
> >>>> and gasoline and oil have gone stratospheric.
> >>>
> >>> You wouldnt know what a real straophere was if one bit you on your
> >>> lard arse.
> >>>
> >>>> Energy costs impact food costs.
> >>>
> >>> They did in the 70s too and we survived that fine.
> >>>
> >>>> Communities are crumbling because of the mortgage crisis.
> >>>
> >>> Another lie. And we had the same claim about the S&L fiasco too and
> >>> survived that fine.
> >>>
> >>>> And people still believe we're just heading into a recession.
> >>>> I have news for you, we're heading into a depression
> >>>
> >>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that
> >>> claim. And we survived the last one fine, and can survive another one
> >>> fine
> >>> too. It wouldnt even be as hard to survive as the last one was.
> >>>
> >>>> but nobody wants to say it because of the panic it would cause.
> >>>> We've now seen 8 bank failures in the last two weeks which is
> >>>> interesting in itself.
> >>>
> >>> And those with deposits in them have had their deposits federally
> >>> guaranteed.
> >>>
> >>>> I predict that BofA will be the first big bank to fail.
> >>>
> >>> It wont be allowed to fail, you watch.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please piss
off?
> >
> > You wouldnt know what a real Republican motherfucker was if one bit you
on
> > your lard arse, child.
> >
>
> My favorite part is "Pig Ignorant Lie." You so eloquent.


Wow, you reply to "Rod Speed"? He's prolly the single most - killfiled
poster on Usenet...

More proof that you are indeed a clueless noob...or mebbe just a "boob".


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking


== 11 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:42 pm
From: "Gregory Morrow"


cybercat wrote:

> "Pan" <ohco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nh8h945nrii57sm2uis3n5dni90le8n27u@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:24:41 GMT, blake murphy
> > <blakepmNOTTHIS@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> The market recovered even after great depression.
> >>>
> >>
> >>yep, all we gotta do is wait ten years and start a world war. oh, wait,
> >>bush has already started on the latter.
> >>
> >>prosperity is just around the corner!
> >>
> >>your pal,
> >>blake
> >
> > Is that your entire repertoire, Bush hate?
> >
> > And Roosevelt's actions are now considered to have lengthen the
> > recovery.
>
> There's the "H" word again! Remember, Blake, if you don't like W you HATE
> AMERICA.


Yup...you LIEberals HATE America and everything it stands for,
cyberpussie...


> What's a little unnecessary economic depression? A few million lives
ruined,
> some suicides, come on Man, it's the American Way!


The more miserable things are, the *happier* you are..."bad news" gives you
something to "cheer" about...natcherly that's the leftist way.

I bet you and blake laff yer asses off when one of our troops gets killed in
Iraq or Afghanistan...

Did you and blake snicker about "evil" and "imperialist" America when 9/11
happened, reasoning that we "deserved" it? I bet so...

Or instead of referring to you as "cybercat and blake" maybe we could refer
to your comedy act as "Fred and Ethel 'Rosenberg' ", hmmm...???

And FYI there is no "depression"...in fact there's not even a
*recession*...most folks are doing just fine...doesn't that just PISS you
off, cyberschadenfreude...???


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking


== 12 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:35 pm
From: William Souden


Rod Speed wrote:
> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>> T wrote
>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
>
>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
>
>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will recover.
>
>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
>
>>> The economy as a whole is screwed. If you hadn't noticed the unemployment rate is being reported as 5.7% or so which
>>> in reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number since that particular statistic only records NEW filings.
>
> Pig ignorant lie.
>
>> According to a recent Forbes article, " The misery index - the sum of the inflation and unemployment rates - is at a
>> 15-year high, with no relief in sight."
>
> Do the decent thing and hang yourself or sumfin.
>
>> According to CNNMoney, "planned job cuts announced by employers in July jumped 26% to 103,312 from 81,755 announced in
>> June. That's up 141% from a year ago, when employers announced planned job cuts totaling 42,897."
>
> A fart in the bath in total employment.
>
>> According to the US Dept Labor - July 2008, " Over the past 12 months,
>> the number of unemployed persons has increased by 1.6 million" -
>
> And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%
>
>> July was the seventh straight month of job losses.
>
> And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%
>
>
Links to these facts have been repeated over and over and all
welfare bot can say is "Irrelevant" or "bullshit":

In the US if you are unemployed during a reporting period but simply
scan ads without applying for a job you are not considered to be
unemployed during that period.
The major part of unemployment comes from people registering at state
employment offices,something one needs to do when they are getting
unemployment benefits. Since most jobs at those offices are the bottom
of the barrel many stop registering when benefits run out.
For the last few years the weekly number of new jobless claims has
regularly exceeded the monthly number of jobs created.

But why would an Australian welfare leech know anything about U.S. jobs?

William Souden
sales fool/race track bum.

== 13 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:41 pm
From: T


In article <g7aeu4$6mc$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
cyberpurrs@yahoo.com says...
>
> "Pan" <ohco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nh8h945nrii57sm2uis3n5dni90le8n27u@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:24:41 GMT, blake murphy
> > <blakepmNOTTHIS@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> The market recovered even after great depression.
> >>>
> >>
> >>yep, all we gotta do is wait ten years and start a world war. oh, wait,
> >>bush has already started on the latter.
> >>
> >>prosperity is just around the corner!
> >>
> >>your pal,
> >>blake
> >
> > Is that your entire repertoire, Bush hate?
> >
> > And Roosevelt's actions are now considered to have lengthen the
> > recovery.
>
> There's the "H" word again! Remember, Blake, if you don't like W you HATE
> AMERICA.
>
> What's a little unnecessary economic depression? A few million lives ruined,
> some suicides, come on Man, it's the American Way!

I love the United States of America and hate what the Shrub is doing to
it. I also don't want to see McCain as president.

I've seen McCain take un-vetted questions and he strikes me as an
Alzheimers sufferer. His short term memory is definitely showing a
deficit.

Do we really want someone like that with their finger on the button?

== 14 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:07 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6frorsFcvj1vU1@mid.individual.net...
>> cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6fpb0uFclchfU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote
>>>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly
>>>>>>> unlikely you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will
>>>>>> recover.
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, completely realistic. The market recovered even after great
>>>> depression.
>>>>
>>>>> The economy as a whole is screwed.
>>>>
>>>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>>>
>>>>> If you hadn't noticed the unemployment rate is being reported as
>>>>> 5.7% or so
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of countrys would kill for that rate.
>>>>
>>>>> which in reality translates to 2 to 3 times that number
>>>>> since that particular statistic only records NEW filings.
>>>>
>>>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>>> http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>>>
>>>>> Then of course there are the energy prices.
>>>>
>>>> We've had higher real energy prices in the 70s and survived them
>>>> fine.
>>>>> Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you can't have missed
>>>>> that your electric rates probably went up by about 20%
>>>>
>>>> Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it.
>>>>
>>>>> and gasoline and oil have gone stratospheric.
>>>>
>>>> You wouldnt know what a real straophere was if one bit you on your
>>>> lard arse.
>>>>
>>>>> Energy costs impact food costs.
>>>>
>>>> They did in the 70s too and we survived that fine.
>>>>
>>>>> Communities are crumbling because of the mortgage crisis.
>>>>
>>>> Another lie. And we had the same claim about the S&L fiasco too and
>>>> survived that fine.
>>>>
>>>>> And people still believe we're just heading into a recession.
>>>>> I have news for you, we're heading into a depression
>>>>
>>>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that
>>>> claim. And we survived the last one fine, and can survive another
>>>> one fine
>>>> too. It wouldnt even be as hard to survive as the last one was.
>>>>
>>>>> but nobody wants to say it because of the panic it would cause.
>>>>> We've now seen 8 bank failures in the last two weeks which is
>>>>> interesting in itself.
>>>>
>>>> And those with deposits in them have had their deposits federally
>>>> guaranteed.
>>>>
>>>>> I predict that BofA will be the first big bank to fail.
>>>>
>>>> It wont be allowed to fail, you watch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please
>>> piss off?
>>
>> You wouldnt know what a real Republican motherfucker was if one bit
>> you on your lard arse, child.
>>
>
> My favorite part is "Pig Ignorant Lie." You so eloquent.

You in spades, child.


== 15 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:09 pm
From: "cybercat"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6frotrFd1b3sU1@mid.individual.net...
> cybercat <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Pan" <ohco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:o68h94d2id4qo715m0opv7ocag3o85u1fb@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:34:42 -0400, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you think you ignorant Republican motherfuckers could please
>>>> piss off?
>>> Well I could piss off of any thing you want.
>>> As to being a motherfucker, yes I am, and what's your mothers name?
>>>
>>> As you can see any one can be crude & ignorant, now did that make
>>> you feel better?
>>>
>>> And I will stay here as long as I want.
>>
>> It was just a request. I even said "please."
>
> Fuck off. No please, thats an order.
PUSEEEEEEEE!


== 16 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>> T wrote
>>>> ohco@hotmail.com wrote
>>>>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> You mean that You did better under the higher taxes?
>>
>>>>>> Unless you are in the top 1% (<$250k/ yr), it's highly unlikely
>>>>>> you are better off today vs. 10 years ago.
>>
>>>>> I'm hardly in the top 1% and yes I am better off.
>>>>> My stocks made money up until this year. And the market will
>>>>> recover.
>>
>>>> Wow, you're pretty optimistic.
>>
>>>> The economy as a whole is screwed. If you hadn't noticed the
>>>> unemployment rate is being reported as 5.7% or so which in reality
>>>> translates to 2 to 3 times that number since that particular
>>>> statistic only records NEW filings.
>>
>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>
>>> According to a recent Forbes article, " The misery index - the sum
>>> of the inflation and unemployment rates - is at a 15-year high,
>>> with no relief in sight."
>>
>> Do the decent thing and hang yourself or sumfin.
>>
>>> According to CNNMoney, "planned job cuts announced by employers in
>>> July jumped 26% to 103,312 from 81,755 announced in June. That's up
>>> 141% from a year ago, when employers announced planned job cuts
>>> totaling 42,897."
>>
>> A fart in the bath in total employment.
>>
>>> According to the US Dept Labor - July 2008, " Over the past 12
>>> months, the number of unemployed persons has increased by 1.6 million" -
>>
>> And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%
>>
>>> July was the seventh straight month of job losses.
>>
>> And the unemployment rate isnt even 6%

> Links to these facts have been repeated over and over

You're lying, as always.

> In the US if you are unemployed during a reporting period but simply scan ads without applying for a job you are not
> considered to be unemployed during that period.

You're lying, as always.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

> The major part of unemployment comes from people registering at
> state employment offices,something one needs to do when they are
> getting unemployment benefits. Since most jobs at those offices are
> the bottom of the barrel many stop registering when benefits run out.

You're lying, as always.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

> For the last few years the weekly number of new jobless claims has regularly exceeded the monthly number of jobs
> created.

Another bare faced pig ignorant lie. Thats only happened quite recently.



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TOPIC: does anybody here know anything abou freecycle
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/af17f8e5c05bfdd7?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 12:21 pm
From: "http://theeliteconnoisseurs.blogspot.com/"


On Aug 5, 2:34 pm, "http://theeliteconnoisseurs.blogspot.com/"
<onceuponaclas...@inbox.com> wrote:
> I've heard of it just wondering how it works.
>
> http://stores.ebay.com/DePasionaria_W0QQsspagenameZMEQ3aFQ3aSTQQtZkm

Thank you!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 1:59 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"http://theeliteconnoisseurs.blogspot.com/" <onceuponaclassic@inbox.com>
wrote in message
news:7eec5d8e-8079-4f76-bb58-f8d62aaba177@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I've heard of it just wondering how it works.
>
i think you were just trying to spam your ebay store.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:11 pm
From: clams_casino


AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:

>"http://theeliteconnoisseurs.blogspot.com/" <onceuponaclassic@inbox.com>
>wrote in message
>news:7eec5d8e-8079-4f76-bb58-f8d62aaba177@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>I've heard of it just wondering how it works.
>>
>>
>>
>i think you were just trying to spam your ebay store.
>
>
>
>
That crossed my mind as well.


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TOPIC: canned fruit
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1667ee407a6d8fc6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:23 pm
From: Seerialmom


On Aug 5, 9:40 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "CurlyQue" <ma...@gug.com> wrote in message
>
> news:oI-dnemwWJF78gXVnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@centurytel.net...
>
>
>
> > AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> >> "Stephanie" <h...@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>news:IKWdnWIZCd4W2QXVnZ2dnUVZ_rbinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>> We have a Costco membership. The canned fruit is MUCH cheaper there. We
> >>> buy the small cans wrapped in several can packages. The large cans are
> >>> even cheaper, but we don't each that much before it goes bad. Is there
> >>> anything I can do with this fruit? I cannot imagine taking canned fruit
> >>> and freezing it...
>
> >> why not?   probably be mushy when thawed, but if you use it for
> >> smoothies/pies, should be okay.
>
> >> ----------------------
> >> "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His
> >> justice cannot sleep forever."--Thomas Jefferson
>
> >> "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes
> >> decide everything." -- Josef V. Stalin
>
> >>www.myspace.com/bodybuildinggranny
>
> >> heavy on the country music.   if you don't like country, scroll down for
> >> some surprises.
>
> > Boil it with some sugar and put it up as preserves?
>
> > Curly
>
> There's already a ton of sugar in canned fruit, especially if it's packed in
> syrup. Canned fruit is really unhealty, unless you can it yourself without
> all the extra sugar. It's much more frugal to by fresh fruit and freeze it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Canned fruit is not unhealthy. Only the syrup it's packed in is, and
not all canned fruit is packed in HFCS. Sure, there are degrees of
"nutritiousness" in fruits (fresh picked yourself and eaten on the
spot, flash frozen, fresh in store, canned and last, dehydrated.


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TOPIC: Part of frugal living may be spotting the next mess before it blind
sides you.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:34 pm
From: Gordon


"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:p7Mlk.182$ZV1.124@trnddc07:

> three little words: no doc loan. as soon as i became aware of that,
> i knew what would happen. and gordon, STOP FEEDING THE ROD SPEED
> TROLL. PLONK HIM!!!!!
>
>

I know. And there were plenty of experts warning us that
no-doc loans and sub prime loans, and teaser rates on
ARMs were going to bite us in the ass. Which they did.
A quick search of several web sites like Bankrate.com
(for one) shows that there were several articles in there
archives that also saw the mess comming.

As for Rod Speed, I happen to like tweeking that little
troll. Right now he wants me to educate him after the
fact. Not my job, and I have nothing to prove to him.
So I'm letting the matter drop right here. If Rod Speed
is the least bit curious, he would do his own damn research
and educate himself.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:06 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote

> And there were plenty of experts warning us that
> no-doc loans and sub prime loans, and teaser
> rates on ARMs were going to bite us in the ass.

No one predicted that we would see operations like Bear Stearns go bust because of those, fool.

Or that banks would go bust either.

> Which they did.

No one predicted that we would see operations like Bear Stearns go bust because of those, fool.

Or that banks would go bust either.

> A quick search of several web sites like Bankrate.com
> (for one) shows that there were several articles in
> there archives that also saw the mess comming.

None of those predicted that we would see operations like Bear Stearns go bust because of those, fool.

Or that banks would go bust either.

<reams of your desperate attempts to bullshit your way out of your predicament
that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>



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TOPIC: Buying clothes off eBay?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/38862886a3ad24cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:37 pm
From: ediefaber@yahoo.com (elise d faber)


On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:50:09 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:

>ediefaber@yahoo.com (elise d faber) wrote:
>
>>i have had good luck in that what i have gotten as been almost always
>>'as described', and i have paid little enough that i could cherefully
>>pass on what didn't fit/wasn't right.
>
>Thanks for the opinion!
>
>Why the heck they charge so much for shipping on
>everything tho?

clothes are heavy. but if the shipping charge looks too high, don't
use that seller. someone who will try to cheat you on shipping will
try to cheat you on merchandise also. a lot of people do add a
handling charge. if it's just a couple of dollars, i don't mind, but
if it's more, again i don't buy from them.

it also can be 'fee avoidance'. they don't have t give ebay a
percentage of the shipping, so if they add an extra $10, they save
some money. these people aren't to be trusted either. unless you are
buying something very rare, just avoid the questionable sellers.
there are plenty of others.


elise

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:18 pm
From: clams_casino


elise d faber wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:50:09 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:
>
>
>
>>ediefaber@yahoo.com (elise d faber) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>i have had good luck in that what i have gotten as been almost always
>>>'as described', and i have paid little enough that i could cherefully
>>>pass on what didn't fit/wasn't right.
>>>
>>>
>>Thanks for the opinion!
>>
>>Why the heck they charge so much for shipping on
>>everything tho?
>>
>>
>
>clothes are heavy. but if the shipping charge looks too high, don't
>use that seller. someone who will try to cheat you on shipping will
>try to cheat you on merchandise also. a lot of people do add a
>handling charge. if it's just a couple of dollars, i don't mind, but
>if it's more, again i don't buy from them.
>
>it also can be 'fee avoidance'. they don't have t give ebay a
>percentage of the shipping, so if they add an extra $10, they save
>some money. these people aren't to be trusted either. unless you are
>buying something very rare, just avoid the questionable sellers.
>there are plenty of others.
>
>
>elise
>
>
>
>
>
Bottom line is to add the price + S/H. If it's fair - go ahead -
provided the S/H is reasonable.

If it's too much, artificially low or the total is not clear - walk.

About $2 over postage is generally a fair S/H. Much more or
significantly less is a sign the seller is playing games and should not
be trusted. As the previous posted mentioned, a seller playing games
with S/H (artificially high or low) will likely be playing games with
the description as well.


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TOPIC: REPOST: The Rod Speed Glossary
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9d660de0dce23e92?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:15 pm
From: William Souden


Welfare boy has gone off his meds so time for a repost:

wanker-anyone with an education
monkey-someone with a job
ape-someone with a good paying job.
sales fool-someone with a good paying job requiring communication
skills
fuckwit-anyone posting facts that contradict his claims.
reams of puerile shit- the facts have clearly shown him to be wrong
but he can never ever admit a mistake.
couldn't bullshit his way...-admission of error
bullshit-Rod can not back up a claim
irrelevant- Rod after a link is posted showing he was wrong
race track bum-someone with disposable income.

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