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Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 2:53 am
From: hpope@lycos.com
On Sep 1, 9:11 pm, LongRodSilver <LRS@backofyourmothersthroat..com>
wrote:
> A Gustav evacuee was interviewed here on local news.. the ignorant
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> ass.. never any thanks for sheltering her obese ass, nor any thing
> good to say.. just the following..
>
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> stuff like that.. were was my potatoes..where was my rice.. i cant
> make it on this stuff they giving out!!"
>
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>
> The very next person they showed was appreciative.. was thanking the
> shelter for housing him AND the others.. and said that "he understood
> that they were doing what they could to help and he was thankful for
> it.." ... of course he was white..
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 3:10 am
From: clams_casino
jdoe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> You guys are so smug. You think, Republicans have just got to do a
>>better job then Democrats.
>>
>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>>
>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>>
>>
>
>this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>just as ill informed
>__________________________________________
>
>
Under Clinton, the economy added 22.7 million jobs – 237,000 per month.
Over the whole of the Bush administration through 2007, the economy
added only 5.8 million jobs – 72,000 per month.
Furthermore, the jobs created under Bush have been primarily low paying,
Walmart type retail jobs.
== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 5:43 am
From: "Joe 'bama"
<snip>
>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>>
>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>
> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
> just as ill informed
You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau of
Labor Statistics,
(For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number of jobs
created under Clinton than Bush!
== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 6:35 am
From: Jeff
Joe 'bama wrote:
> <snip>
>
>
>
>>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>
>
>>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>
>
>> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>
>> just as ill informed
>
>
>
>
>
> You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau of
> Labor Statistics,
>
> (For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
>
>
>
> On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
>
>
>
> On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
>
>
>
> That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number of jobs
> created under Clinton than Bush!
That's a little deceptive in the shorter time period. But July 2005
is the peak of job creation under Bush. The trend since then has been
straight down, with losses from Feb this year till now... that seems
likely to continue.
About the only job sector that has done well under W has been
Government jobs.
Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 7:13 am
From: clams_casino
Jeff wrote:
> Joe 'bama wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he
>>>> proceeded to:
>>>
>>
>>
>>>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>>>
>>
>>
>>> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>>
>>
>>> just as ill informed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau
>> of Labor Statistics,
>>
>> (For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
>>
>>
>>
>> On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
>>
>>
>>
>> On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number
>> of jobs created under Clinton than Bush!
>
>
> That's a little deceptive in the shorter time period. But July 2005
> is the peak of job creation under Bush. The trend since then has been
> straight down, with losses from Feb this year till now... that seems
> likely to continue.
>
> About the only job sector that has done well under W has been
> Government jobs.
>
>
and Walmart.
== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 7:28 am
From: jdoe
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:13:44 -0400, clams_casino
<PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>and Walmart.
I love how a business that is wildly successful like wally world is so
hated by the looney left. If there was no wally world where would all
the unskilled types work? the jobs people who work at wally world are
qualified for don't exist anymore, regardless of the cause low skill,
low wage jobs other than burger flipping or wally world don't exist.
how about the low cost products wally world sells? many things they
sell just wouldn't be available in many places if wally world didn't
exist or another form of wally world would be doing the same business
as wally world.
this anti wally world hysteria is just another air headed hatred of a
successful enterprise
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 7:41 am
From: clams_casino
jdoe wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:13:44 -0400, clams_casino
><PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>and Walmart.
>>
>>
>I love how a business that is wildly successful like wally world is so
>hated by the looney left.
>
You obviously missed the whole point. Under Clinton, wages grew
substantially. Employment grew substantially. Under GW, the marginal
increase was primarily low wage retail jobs - thus the stagnant /
declining standard of living .
I wouldn't be surprised if Walmart added many more jobs under Clinton.
The difference was they weren't the primary source of growth in the
Clinton years.
== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 7:42 am
From: Marsha
jdoe wrote:
> I love how a business that is wildly successful like wally world is so
> hated by the looney left. If there was no wally world where would all
> the unskilled types work? the jobs people who work at wally world are
> qualified for don't exist anymore, regardless of the cause low skill,
> low wage jobs other than burger flipping or wally world don't exist.
> how about the low cost products wally world sells? many things they
> sell just wouldn't be available in many places if wally world didn't
> exist or another form of wally world would be doing the same business
> as wally world.
> this anti wally world hysteria is just another air headed hatred of a
> successful enterprise
> __________________________________________
> Never argue with an idiot.
> They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I believe most of venom directed at wally world is from pro-union zealots.
Marsha/Ohio
== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 8:30 am
From: Gunner Asch
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:43:48 -0400, "Joe 'bama" <Schmo@verizon.net>
wrote:
><snip>
>
>
>
>>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>
>>>
>
>>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>
>>
>
>> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>
>> just as ill informed
>
>
>
>
>
>You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau of
>Labor Statistics,
>
>(For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
>
>
>
>On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
>
>
>
>On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
>
>
>
>That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number of jobs
>created under Clinton than Bush!
>
How many of Clintons jobs were "would you like fries with that?" and
government jobs?
Care to give us a break down?
Gunner
>
>
>
>
>
>
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,
== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 8:39 am
From: clams_casino
Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>>
>
>How many of Clintons jobs were "would you like fries with that?" and
>government jobs?
>
>Care to give us a break down?
>
>Gunner
>
>
Considering wages increased substantially during the Clinton vs. GW
years, even someone with minimum math skills could conclude there were
more higher paying jobs than lower paying jobs in the Clinton years.
== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 8:57 am
From: Jeff
jdoe wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:13:44 -0400, clams_casino
> <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>> and Walmart.
> I love how a business that is wildly successful like wally world is so
> hated by the looney left. If there was no wally world where would all
> the unskilled types work?
The trouble with the wingnut right is that they have not a clue about
who opposes them. You make up these strawmen that you can attack and
they bear no relation to reality.
This has been a continuous problem for those on your side. For
although politics may be made up of such fantasies, reality keeps
slapping you in the face when these assumptions you make simply don't
hold up. Just saying something is so, does not make it so.
And just in case you haven't noticed, real wages of all Americans has
been falling.
www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf
Real average weekly earnings fell by 0.8 percent from June to July after
seasonal adjustment, according to preliminary data released today by the
Bureau
of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor. A 0.3 percent
increase in
average hourly earnings was more than offset by a 0.3 percent decrease in
average weekly hours and a 0.9 percent increase in the Consumer Price
Index for
Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W)
Jeff
the jobs people who work at wally world are
> qualified for don't exist anymore, regardless of the cause low skill,
> low wage jobs other than burger flipping or wally world don't exist.
> how about the low cost products wally world sells? many things they
> sell just wouldn't be available in many places if wally world didn't
> exist or another form of wally world would be doing the same business
> as wally world.
> this anti wally world hysteria is just another air headed hatred of a
> successful enterprise
> __________________________________________
> Never argue with an idiot.
> They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:04 am
From: clams_casino
Jeff wrote:
> jdoe wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:13:44 -0400, clams_casino
>> <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> and Walmart.
>>
>> I love how a business that is wildly successful like wally world is so
>> hated by the looney left. If there was no wally world where would all
>> the unskilled types work?
>
>
>
> The trouble with the wingnut right is that they have not a clue about
> who opposes them. You make up these strawmen that you can attack and
> they bear no relation to reality.
>
> This has been a continuous problem for those on your side. For
> although politics may be made up of such fantasies, reality keeps
> slapping you in the face when these assumptions you make simply don't
> hold up. Just saying something is so, does not make it so.
>
> And just in case you haven't noticed, real wages of all Americans
> has been falling.
>
> www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf
>
> Real average weekly earnings fell by 0.8 percent from June to July after
> seasonal adjustment, according to preliminary data released today by
> the Bureau
> of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor. A 0.3 percent
> increase in
> average hourly earnings was more than offset by a 0.3 percent decrease in
> average weekly hours and a 0.9 percent increase in the Consumer Price
> Index for
> Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W)
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
The part I don't understand is that the Republicans are strongly pro
small business, yet pro Walmart, where Walmart has done more to kill off
small business than any other factor.
== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:37 am
From: Jeff
clams_casino wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> jdoe wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:13:44 -0400, clams_casino
>>> <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> and Walmart.
>>>
>>> I love how a business that is wildly successful like wally world is so
>>> hated by the looney left. If there was no wally world where would all
>>> the unskilled types work?
>>
>>
>>
>> The trouble with the wingnut right is that they have not a clue about
>> who opposes them. You make up these strawmen that you can attack and
>> they bear no relation to reality.
>>
>> This has been a continuous problem for those on your side. For
>> although politics may be made up of such fantasies, reality keeps
>> slapping you in the face when these assumptions you make simply don't
>> hold up. Just saying something is so, does not make it so.
>>
>> And just in case you haven't noticed, real wages of all Americans
>> has been falling.
>>
>> www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf
>>
>> Real average weekly earnings fell by 0.8 percent from June to July after
>> seasonal adjustment, according to preliminary data released today by
>> the Bureau
>> of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor. A 0.3 percent
>> increase in
>> average hourly earnings was more than offset by a 0.3 percent decrease in
>> average weekly hours and a 0.9 percent increase in the Consumer Price
>> Index for
>> Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W)
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> The part I don't understand is that the Republicans are strongly pro
> small business, yet pro Walmart, where Walmart has done more to kill off
> small business than any other factor.
Indeed. Sort sightedness is in wide supply. By and large current
Republican policies skew more and more toward the Uber Wealthy. This
thread is an example in point of just how many unfounded beliefs they
have that are based solely on faith. The faithful want to be led not
enlightened.
I've heard it said that there are only two kinds of Republicans:
Millionaires and Fools.
On a side note. I find that some of the most rabid Walmart defenders are
also virulently opposed to Hispanic immigration. There is perhaps no
greater Hispanic Immigrant magnet than Walmart.
Jeff
== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:45 am
From: Bob Brock
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:30:04 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:43:48 -0400, "Joe 'bama" <Schmo@verizon.net>
>wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>>
>>> just as ill informed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau of
>>Labor Statistics,
>>
>>(For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
>>
>>
>>
>>On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
>>
>>
>>
>>On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
>>
>>
>>
>>That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number of jobs
>>created under Clinton than Bush!
>>
>
>How many of Clintons jobs were "would you like fries with that?" and
>government jobs?
>
>Care to give us a break down?
>
>Gunner
Even a fast food job beats no job at all. Well that is unless you are
happy on welfare and not paying your hospital bills.
== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:02 am
From: clams_casino
Bob Brock wrote:
>
>
>Even a fast food job beats no job at all. Well that is unless you are
>happy on welfare and not paying your hospital bills.
>
>
and working two jobs is better than one.
== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:32 am
From: Jeff
Bob Brock wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:30:04 -0700, Gunner Asch
> <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:43:48 -0400, "Joe 'bama" <Schmo@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>>>>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>>>> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>>>> just as ill informed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau of
>>> Labor Statistics,
>>>
>>> (For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number of jobs
>>> created under Clinton than Bush!
>>>
>> How many of Clintons jobs were "would you like fries with that?" and
>> government jobs?
>>
>> Care to give us a break down?
I don't have a breakdown under Clinton, certainly a lot of high tech
jobs were added amongst others. Certainly wages rose. I do know that
under W, the public sector job growth has been greater than the private
sector.
>>
>> Gunner
>
> Even a fast food job beats no job at all. Well that is unless you are
> happy on welfare and not paying your hospital bills.
Traditional welfare makes up about 1% of the Fed budget. Few people
make a "living" off welfare. Even AFDC single moms tend to be off in a
couple years. Arguably "corporate" welfare is a far higher percentage of
the budget.
This right wing red meat issue has little impact on the economy.
As you've stated, even a fast food job beats welfare.
Jeff
== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 11:02 am
From: jdoe
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:32:55 -0400, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>Bob Brock wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:30:04 -0700, Gunner Asch
>> <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:43:48 -0400, "Joe 'bama" <Schmo@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> That is certainly what George W Bush thought. And then he proceeded to:
>>>>>> Create less than 1/4 the number of jobs then under Clinton.
>>>>> this is just flat out false and I am sure the balance of your post is
>>>>> just as ill informed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are correct. This is flat out false. In fact, according to Bureau of
>>>> Labor Statistics,
>>>>
>>>> (For the period from January 2001 - July 2005)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On average, The Bush's economy has created 393,000 new jobs per year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On average, Clinton created 2.75 million per year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's NOT ¼ less jobs under Bush; That's almost 7 TIMES the number of jobs
>>>> created under Clinton than Bush!
>>>>
>>> How many of Clintons jobs were "would you like fries with that?" and
>>> government jobs?
>>>
>>> Care to give us a break down?
>
>I don't have a breakdown under Clinton, certainly a lot of high tech
>jobs were added amongst others. Certainly wages rose. I do know that
>under W, the public sector job growth has been greater than the private
>sector.
and a lot of high tech jobs vanished, ever heard of the tech bust?
your arguments are simplistic and ill informed ideological rants, you
should check out places like the kos where kooks like you can swap
idiotic rants like this and not have to deal with facts
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 11:02 am
From: " Frank"
"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:bjfpb41cctdds12imu1uu8brpm46d4nkts@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:19:19 -0700, " Frank" <x> wrote:
>
>>>>High-immigration cheerleaders claim that we need immigration for our
>>>>economy. But they ignore the detrimental effect that importing workers
>>>>has on American workers, particularly low-skilled natives. In a supply
>>>>and demand economy like ours, the more there is of something, the less
>>>>value it has.
>>
>>Except for over priced lawyers, which we have an over abundance with. What
>>does one expect from a country that doesn't manufacture much of anything
>>except for entertainment, corporate takeovers and lawsuits?
>
>
> Odd...I hope you are not talking about the USA, as its the most
> productive country on the planet, manufacturing wise.
>
Sure, most efficient in terms of manufacturing, but we don't manufacture
much of anything anymore (except for food) relative to 20 or 50 years ago.
Look at GM and Ford, its in the gutter going broke. GM used to be number 1,
now no one is buying it except the Chinese. Just go back to the 50s, we had
a huge manufacturing base; TVs, radios, bikes, test equipment, all kind of
consumer and industrial products. No more, manufacturing shifted to Asia,
Europe and even South America. Just cannot compete against low foreign wages
based on American technology..Just look at the stuff around your house or
office. How many are still made in America? Up till the 1960s almost all,
sad isn't it? Fortunately we are still the land of opportunity.
>
> "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
> or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
> caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
> isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
> Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
> results." - John Tucci,
>
Sure agree with that. Grew up in the inner city with some tough blue collar
and ghetto kids. School wasn't the best but could still get a good
education. So many of my schoolmates just don't give a shit, prefer raising
hell to reading books. Street wise tough kids with straight F's and doing
time in juvenile jail were look up on like rock stars while kids with
straight A's had the shit kicked out of them. Where are some those juve kids
now? On welfare, death row, or six feet under?
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Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 3:14 am
From: kaosereyrath12@googlemail.com
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TOPIC: One-time credit card numbers?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:33 am
From: Marc
On Aug 29, 8:35 pm, Tiziano <nos...@example.com> wrote:
> Please note that in some cases you will not be able to use a virtual
> credit card number to purchase something. One example is the purchase
> of airline tickets; your real credit card number must be used for
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Really? I've done it and it worked fine. What possible "security
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TOPIC: buying old meat from supermarket
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:53 am
From: "john d hamilton"
As we know some people have a greater density of taste buds built into their
tongues. I have less, but my wife and son have more than i do and they can
detect subtle food flavours that I cannot.
Tescos in North London U.K. sometime do meat in their 'reduced price'
section. The other day I got some really good beef and lamb which was
slightly 'darker' coloured from this section at about 1/4 of the normal
price. I fried it up and enjoyed it and put the rest in the freezer.
Other members of the family thought this was truly awful. My view is that
although if you smell it closely, it is different; but that it is basically
just a bit of *oxizidation* and it does not effect the taste. Years ago
they used to hang up 'game' outside for weeks.
Views on this really seem to divide people. But I cannot believe that a big
store like Tesco would continue to sell this very slightly off coloured
meat, if it represented any health risk.
Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such meat?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 11:05 am
From: TFM®
"john d hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:g9jujd$p1b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> As we know some people have a greater density of taste buds built into
> their tongues. I have less, but my wife and son have more than i do and
> they can detect subtle food flavours that I cannot.
>
> Tescos in North London U.K. sometime do meat in their 'reduced price'
> section. The other day I got some really good beef and lamb which was
> slightly 'darker' coloured from this section at about 1/4 of the normal
> price. I fried it up and enjoyed it and put the rest in the freezer.
>
> Other members of the family thought this was truly awful. My view is that
> although if you smell it closely, it is different; but that it is
> basically just a bit of *oxizidation* and it does not effect the taste.
> Years ago they used to hang up 'game' outside for weeks.
>
> Views on this really seem to divide people. But I cannot believe that a
> big store like Tesco would continue to sell this very slightly off
> coloured meat, if it represented any health risk.
> Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such meat?
>
>
"Reduced for quick sale" is my favorite cut of meat. I've eaten it for
decades.
If it stinks when you open it, let it breathe a while. If it still stinks
after a few minutes, you be the judge. I've had a lot of 'fresh' cryovaced
meat stink like hell right out of the package but then smell fresh as a
daisy minutes later.
I just finished eating some questionable ground lamb. First time I've ever
had it. I'll update tomorrow if I become ill.
Also, I've had fresh smelling meat emit a stench from Hell once I started
cooking it. It's only happened a couple of times, but it went into the
trash immediately.
TFM®
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:58 am
From: Neon John
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:43:49 -0400, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>Neon John wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:39:39 -0400, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Not as bad here in Atlanta. About .10/kWh averaging in delivery and
>>> other costs. A surcharge for going over 650kWh in the summer and a
>>> discount in the winter. Most people heat with natural gas which is a
>>> good bit cheaper but is subject to wild fluctuations, I've been adding
>>> solar thermal none the less.
>>
>> Where are you getting power that cheap? In Cobb County over 15 years ago the
>> winter rate was higher than that and the summer rate even higher. I'm afraid
>> to quote a number, it's been so long but 14 cent/kWh is lingering in my mind.
>
> Georgia Power. Southern Company.
>
> They have the rates hidden, but I pay about $65 for 650 kWhrs. You
>may have been on Cobb EMC.
I was. I just couldn't remember the name. Do you get your power directly
from GaP or do you have a local utility? I knew that Cobb EMC was higher than
other parts of Atlanta but I didn't think that they were that high.
Do you have gas? I left just as they were "deregulating" (sic) gas. I heard
from friends still in Cobb county that their gas bills doubled. True with
you?
John
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