Thursday, October 16, 2008

25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* KFC 9.99 bucket - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5651e6f0a42596cd?hl=en
* Enjoy Spam - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3438e23cf2e616be?hl=en
* Hussein Obama's First 10 Executive Orders - 11 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eef1f93b8617a8e7?hl=en
* Would you buy this car? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a2eb58b3f859bd39?hl=en
* Best GPS Units For Less Than $200! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4874b2abe080dcd4?hl=en
* 2008 Bike Houston Moonlight Ramble - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ae424346c37c066c?hl=en
* Frugal air fares still exist - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/baf1b52a87b7d766?hl=en
* $10 ain't what it used to be - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88a2760a91d12abc?hl=en
* SmartGuy.com - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/96761c934fd74112?hl=en
* Warning on unplugging to save money - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df565ab499ce5661?hl=en
* getting cats spayed and neutered - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/291bfc820205c6fb?hl=en

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TOPIC: KFC 9.99 bucket
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5651e6f0a42596cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:09 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote
> curly'q <mamay@gug.com> wrote

>> You know, it's what you grow up with. I call it the 'Mom's Meatloaf
>> Syndrome' I've tasted friends mom's specialties and some of them were
>> pretty bad. All the while the family members around the table thought
>> they had died and went to heaven.

> Never really thought about that.

Yeah, he's spot on. I got the same effect when I was sick as a kid. For some reason
I wanted some pears and icecream after an operation and happened to be staying with
some relos who were into canning. Their canned pears were nothing like the commercial
product and I was quite dissapointed with the pears. I've since come to realise that the
home preserved product leave the commercial product for dead.

> I'll keep it in mind when I get starry-eyed about my wife's cooking.

Just dont forget who will be picking the nursing home.



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TOPIC: Enjoy Spam
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3438e23cf2e616be?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:37 am
From: clams_casino


sfsfloan.cn wrote:

>
>Please pass these proxy around if you like them. Thank You :)
>

So how many times and on how many newsgroups do you intend to post this
scam?


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TOPIC: Hussein Obama's First 10 Executive Orders
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eef1f93b8617a8e7?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:45 am
From: "ChairMan"


In news:ZbSdnbDeFPdC-2rVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com,
George <george@nospam.invalid>spewed forth:
> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>> Listen up right wing asshole; There was no market meltdown until the
>> right thinking of no regulation let greed run it into the ground.
>>
>> Now stop the lying and driveling. Your nonsense is old and boring.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> You are a good example of what happens when someone ODs on blue cool
> aid. All you can do is resort to clueless name calling. If you
> actually want to convince someone you need to offer well a well
> thought out rebuttal not the lame name calling which makes you look
> silly and totally invalidates your position.

Perfect example of the *tolerence* of the left


== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:45 am
From: "ChairMan"


In news:87qJk.221$KW4.204@newsfe02.iad,
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com>spewed forth:
> ChairMan wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
>> Thought you might like to read the following:
>> A little over one year ago:
>>
>>
>> 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
>> 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
>> 3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
>>
>>
>> Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
>>
>>
>> 1) Consumer confidence plummet;
>> 2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
>> 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
>> 4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
>> evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
>> 5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion
>> dollars; 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Can you quote one law that was passed since 1 / 2006 that caused these
> problems?

Can you quote one promise that the dems made in 06 that they kept?
It damn sure wasn't bring gas prices down, like they promised


== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:45 am
From: "ChairMan"


In news:ebidnWceItyRFWjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@comcast.com,
Al.E. Gator Sr. <Gator for Prez.com>spewed forth:
> "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> wrote in message
> news:48f579d2$0$25086$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> In news:nQIIk.638$Rx2.628@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,
>> TruthTeller@nospam.net <TruthTeller@nospam.net>spewed forth:
>>> In <7jl6f4ldenr79pkva926m7fv4tlva508p3@4ax.com>, on 10/13/2008
>>> at 10:10 AM, jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> said:
>>
>> Bill Clinton has just done a better job blaming the democrats for
>> this than
>> John McCain has done! By the way, in 3 years Barack Obama managed to
>> become
>> the number 2 recipient of Fannie/Freddie money, beaten only slightly
>> by Chris Dodd who had a 30 year head start.
>
> nice try el shithead, all you hillbillies keep beating this point but
> none of you will tell everyone how MUCH money it was,
>
> so how about trying to be a MAN for once in your miserable, worthless,
> hillbilly existence and give us some figures

typical democratic response, you want someone else to do the work for you.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html


== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:45 am
From: "ChairMan"


In news:fZeJk.2574$Ei5.1127@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com,
George Grapman <sfgeorge.@pacbell.net>spewed forth:
> ChairMan wrote:
>> In news:OrudnWrRd_epymjVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@earthlink.com,
>> HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com>spewed forth:
>>> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>>>> But after the election Obama will still be the junior senator
>>>>> from Illinois with no power to reconvene the Senate contrary to
>>>>> what the original poster claimed.
>>>>
>>>> That was not the claim. The claim was that he had talked with the
>>>> speaker -- who does have the authority.
>>>>
>>> Not exactly. The Speaker can re-convene the House of
>>> Representatives, not the Congress. Once this august body gathers
>>> under Democratic control, they can do what they excelled at the
>>> past two years: naming post offices and issuing declarations
>>> proclaiming something or other about groundhogs.
>>
>> In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
>> Thought you might like to read the following:
>> A little over one year ago:
>>
>>
>> 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
>> 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
>> 3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
>>
>>
>> Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
>>
>>
>> 1) Consumer confidence plummet;
>> 2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
>> 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
>> 4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
>> evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
>> 5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion
>> dollars; 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
>
> What were those figures in Jan.2001 compared to Jan.2007, a period of
> total Republican control?
>>
>>
>> America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
>>
>> Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to
>> work with what's handed to him.

Look em up yourself and tell me.
Google is your friend


== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:45 am
From: "ChairMan"


In news:Ru6dnW2D1NHkqWrVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com,
George <george@nospam.invalid>spewed forth:
> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>> Stop pretending son. The democrats have done nothing in the past
>> months to cause the meltdown. its all the result of right wing
>> thinking and control.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Sounds like the politicians have you right where they want you. *BOTH*
> sides are complicit in the greed and stupidity. It took a lot more
> than a few years to get us to where we are.
>
> If there were a "fire everyone" choice this election I would be first
> in line at the polls.

I totally agree. Send 'em all home and continue to do so until they
understand *who* they represent


== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:47 am
From: "ChairMan"


In news:QVHJk.1417$Rx2.1280@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,
TruthTeller@nospam.net <TruthTeller@nospam.net>spewed forth:
> In <Xns9b3957bfca9ccveeblefetzer@127.0.0.1>, on 10/16/2008
> at 01:38 PM, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> said:
>
>
>
>> sfgeorge@paccbell.net (George Grapman) wrote in
>> news:jVpJk.3360$x%.168@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>>> Why do Americans keep going to Canada and Mexico for their
>>> prescriptions?
>
>> They go to Mexico because they can buy drugs over the counter without
>> prescriptions. Of course, they often get counterfeits.
>
>> They go to Canada because the foolish Canadian tax payers will
>> subsidize the costs of their drugs.
>
>
> Provide proof of that claim.
>
> Here's betting you lie, whine and snivel instead of owning up to the
> truth -- which you are not telling.

how about YOU backup YOUR bullshit with some facts?
Bet ya can't


== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 11:20 am
From: "Billzz"


"ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> wrote in message
news:48f77efb$0$20291$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> In news:QVHJk.1417$Rx2.1280@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,
> TruthTeller@nospam.net <TruthTeller@nospam.net>spewed forth:
>> In <Xns9b3957bfca9ccveeblefetzer@127.0.0.1>, on 10/16/2008
>> at 01:38 PM, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> said:
>>
>>
>>
>>> sfgeorge@paccbell.net (George Grapman) wrote in
>>> news:jVpJk.3360$x%.168@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>>> Why do Americans keep going to Canada and Mexico for their
>>>> prescriptions?
>>
>>> They go to Mexico because they can buy drugs over the counter without
>>> prescriptions. Of course, they often get counterfeits.
>>
>>> They go to Canada because the foolish Canadian tax payers will
>>> subsidize the costs of their drugs.
>>
>>
>> Provide proof of that claim.
>>
>> Here's betting you lie, whine and snivel instead of owning up to the
>> truth -- which you are not telling.
>
> how about YOU backup YOUR bullshit with some facts?
> Bet ya can't

Just passing by with info. Truthteller is probably Ed Letoured, who likes
to argue, but does not, as far as I know, ever post any cite of reference.
Plonk file recommended, unless you also like to argue, endlessly.


== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 2:04 pm
From: clams_casino


ChairMan wrote:

>In news:87qJk.221$KW4.204@newsfe02.iad,
>clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com>spewed forth:
>
>
>>ChairMan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
>>>Thought you might like to read the following:
>>>A little over one year ago:
>>>
>>>
>>>1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
>>>2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
>>>3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
>>>
>>>
>>>Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
>>>
>>>
>>>1) Consumer confidence plummet;
>>>2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
>>>3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
>>>4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
>>>evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
>>>5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion
>>>dollars; 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Can you quote one law that was passed since 1 / 2006 that caused these
>>problems?
>>
>>
>
>Can you quote one promise that the dems made in 06 that they kept?
>It damn sure wasn't bring gas prices down, like they promised
>
>
>
>
First they'll have to reverse all the inept GW decisions.

== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 3:15 pm
From: "ChairMan"


In news:w%NJk.1686$_B6.1249@newsfe12.iad,
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com>spewed forth:
> ChairMan wrote:
>
>> In news:87qJk.221$KW4.204@newsfe02.iad,
>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com>spewed forth:
>>
>>
>>> ChairMan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
>>>> Thought you might like to read the following:
>>>> A little over one year ago:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
>>>> 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
>>>> 3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Consumer confidence plummet;
>>>> 2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
>>>> 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
>>>> 4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
>>>> evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
>>>> 5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion
>>>> dollars; 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Can you quote one law that was passed since 1 / 2006 that caused
>>> these problems?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Can you quote one promise that the dems made in 06 that they kept?
>> It damn sure wasn't bring gas prices down, like they promised
>>
>>
>>
>>
> First they'll have to reverse all the inept GW decisions.

So in other words, no.
Do you know any other dances?
You guys can never admit that they(dems) are just as culpable as the repubs.
There should be hangings from both parties and you know it.


== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 3:44 pm
From: George Grapman


So tell us, if elected what will the first ten executive orders be
from Sidney McCain.

== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 4:19 pm
From: Marsha


Cabot wrote:
> "Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in message
>>I can't say there were "large" numbers, but over the last 18 years, our
>>open-heart surgery practice has seen quite a few Canadians who were
>>either turned down for surgery or put on a very long waiting list. They
>>were expected to put up with painful angina daily and an extremely
>>limiting lifestyle. Our orthopedic practice also had many Canadians who
>>were waiting for hip or knee procedures.
>>
>>Marsha/Ohio
>
> Marsha,
>
> You don't give a hint of where you are, but we have the same waiting game
> in Ohio. For you to imply we don't, is simply false.
>
> Many people come from around the globe, to the Cleveland Clinic. It's not
> because they can get in quick, it's because the CC is one of the top notch
> hospitals in the world. There is a waiting game there, also.
>
> My daughter was recently admitted to a local emergency room. After all said
> and done, it took a wait of 6 weeks, for surgery. I could go on about the
> people I know who had to wait , and I'm sure you know quite a few which
> have to wait for surgery.
>
> People throughout our State of Ohio, have to wait for operations.
>
>

I never said people in Ohio don't have to wait for some surgeries. I'm
speaking only from my experience about open-heart surgery patients. If
a person has debilitating unstable angina, they shouldn't and don't have
to wait for surgery here or anywhere in the US that I'm aware of, even
those who don't have insurance. The people from our area who go to
Cleveland Clinic for OHS are those who are too high risk to be done
here. Cleveland Clinic is world famous for doing OHS on patients who
were turned down elsewhere, because they have the experience of doing
difficult surgery on far more than most other institutions and their
outcomes are excellent. But their resources are limited, so unless
someone's personal physician gives a recommendation that they go to the
top of the list, they will wait, but even then not as long as we've seen
some people waiting in Canada. You didn't say what was your daughter's
problem was, but I'll go out on a limb and bet there was a good reason
for that long of a wait. Personally, I don't want our government
deciding when or whether I get to have a procedure done or not.

Marsha/Ohio


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TOPIC: Would you buy this car?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a2eb58b3f859bd39?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 10:55 am
From: jisseigh


I'd buy it for, say, $500 U.S. -- no more. It's a typical piece of
Chink junk. Probably made from a lot of lead. And they don't say if
it has passenger seats.

Truthfully, the only product of China I'd really desire to purchase
would be a Chinee shrunken head. Maybe a dozen.


Wait! My brother the lawyer says make it five dozen!


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TOPIC: Best GPS Units For Less Than $200!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4874b2abe080dcd4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 1:35 pm
From: The Real Bev


Rod Speed wrote:

> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> timeOday wrote:
>>
>>> Al Bundy wrote:
>>>> On Oct 10, 8:04 am, drishaq <drishaqaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> There are quite a few excellent GPS units for under $200.
>>>>
>>>> I liked it more when they were $300 and I could say I saved $300 by
>>>> not buying one. I know they help some people traveling or in the
>>>> woods, but I always try to know where I am at.

It would be pretty to think so.

I worked for Magellan when hand-held units were $2K and the size and
weight of white bricks. Those were more trouble to use than they were
worth, although boat-people loved them. Technology roolz.

>>> If you travel for work, it sure is nice to use a gps when you arrive
>>> in an unfamiliar city after dark and need to drive to your hotel.
>>
>> Or simply to find a business in an unfamiliar area, especially one on
>> the typical Main Street with lots of small shops. Around here
>> businesses seem to neglect putting numbers on their doors, which is
>> absolutely maddening. There are zoning regs/laws, of course, but
>> everybody ignores them.
>>
>> This is especially nasty in local Asian areas :-(
>
> In spades for yard sales. Leaves everything else for dead for those.
>
> Havent found one that allows you to enter them all with
> their start times and which will do the best routing tho.

That's why we have brains :-)

> It would also need to distinguish between the ones which have a full street
> address which can safely be rocked up at well before the advertised start
> time and the ones which just give the street and where there is more of a
> problem with it not being possible to work out which house it is until they
> put out the balloons/signs etc.

They don't do that too often here, although all the how-to articles say
to just publicize the block. We usually start out at 6:30 and aim for a
concentration of early sales. A typical Saturday's drive is 50 miles.

Making 11x14" copies of the relevant area from the AAA map to mark up
and throw away is essential.

--
Cheers, Bev
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Just as you cannot explain snow to a summer insect, so also you cannot
explain ski resorts to someone who walks uphill willingly. --ErikL


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 3:51 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> timeOday wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al Bundy wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 10, 8:04 am, drishaq <drishaqaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> There are quite a few excellent GPS units for under $200.
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked it more when they were $300 and I could say I saved $300
>>>>> by not buying one. I know they help some people traveling or in
>>>>> the woods, but I always try to know where I am at.
>
> It would be pretty to think so.
>
> I worked for Magellan when hand-held units were $2K and the size and
> weight of white bricks. Those were more trouble to use than they were
> worth, although boat-people loved them. Technology roolz.
>
>>>> If you travel for work, it sure is nice to use a gps when you
>>>> arrive in an unfamiliar city after dark and need to drive to your
>>>> hotel.
>>>
>>> Or simply to find a business in an unfamiliar area, especially one
>>> on the typical Main Street with lots of small shops. Around here
>>> businesses seem to neglect putting numbers on their doors, which is
>>> absolutely maddening. There are zoning regs/laws, of course, but
>>> everybody ignores them.
>>>
>>> This is especially nasty in local Asian areas :-(
>>
>> In spades for yard sales. Leaves everything else for dead for those.
>>
>> Havent found one that allows you to enter them all with
>> their start times and which will do the best routing tho.
>
> That's why we have brains :-)
>
>> It would also need to distinguish between the ones which have a full
>> street address which can safely be rocked up at well before the
>> advertised start time and the ones which just give the street and
>> where there is more of a problem with it not being possible to work
>> out which house it is until they put out the balloons/signs etc.
>
> They don't do that too often here, although all the how-to articles
> say to just publicize the block. We usually start out at 6:30 and
> aim for a concentration of early sales. A typical Saturday's drive
> is 50 miles.

I dont do as far as that usually, but then I'm in a smaller town than you.

> Making 11x14" copies of the relevant area from the AAA map to mark up and throw away is essential.

Wota dinosaur. The most I ever do is print the google maps page
for the ones in the new housing subdivisions that arent in the GPS.

Google maps is one hell of a resource, its even got the individual
house blocks in small towns like mine on the other side of the
world, and photos too now, tho I dont bother with the photos.

Havent worked out how to do that in the car for a viable price tho.



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TOPIC: 2008 Bike Houston Moonlight Ramble
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 1:40 pm
From: The Real Bev


Dan Birchall wrote:

> lbutton@wt.net (lbutton@wt.net) wrote:
>> The Houston Moonlight Bicycle Ramble is the longest running bicycle
>> ride in the Houston.
>
> "the Houston"?
>
>> Your participation in the ride helps promote bicycling in the Houston
>
> Has it occurred to you that the misc.* hierarchy is in no way limited
> to the Houston area, and that indeed, other places, some quite far away,
> have miscellaneous things too? ;)

Probably not. Although it pains me to think ill of a bicyclist, there
is the distinct possibility that his helmet didn't provide quite as much
protection as he had anticipated. Besides, he stayed in Houston.

I love the ones that advertise yard sales. Takes cluelessness to a
whole new level.

--
Cheers, Bev
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Just as you cannot explain snow to a summer insect, so also you cannot
explain ski resorts to someone who walks uphill willingly. --ErikL



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TOPIC: Frugal air fares still exist
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 1:44 pm
From: The Real Bev


jdoe wrote:

> orbitz doesn't always have the lowest fares, I have found dealing
> direct with the airline always get the lowest fares, search on
> www.kayak.com select a flight and then buy it directly from the
> airline

Ditto. I've used Orbitz twice, but Kayak is better and gets my vote
next time. Curiously enough, now Delta has the best prices for
Ontario-RDU; 6 months ago it was Continental. Maybe I can get a flight
via SLC, which I would really like to do during the day.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Just as you cannot explain snow to a summer insect, so also you cannot
explain ski resorts to someone who walks uphill willingly. --ErikL


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 3:43 pm
From: George Grapman


The Real Bev wrote:
> jdoe wrote:
>
>> orbitz doesn't always have the lowest fares, I have found dealing
>> direct with the airline always get the lowest fares, search on
>> www.kayak.com select a flight and then buy it directly from the
>> airline
>
> Ditto. I've used Orbitz twice, but Kayak is better and gets my vote
> next time. Curiously enough, now Delta has the best prices for
> Ontario-RDU; 6 months ago it was Continental. Maybe I can get a flight
> via SLC, which I would really like to do during the day.


Earlier this year I found a fare on Jet Blue from SF to NY on a
travel site. I was ready to take it but they would not give me a seat
selection . Since I always want an aisle seat unless I have no choice I
went to the Jet Blue site and got the same two non-stops for $20 less
and aisle seats.
>


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TOPIC: $10 ain't what it used to be
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88a2760a91d12abc?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 1:56 pm
From: The Real Bev


I got a "$10 off a $10+ purchase" card from Office Max. They do nice
things like that every once in a while. I got a roll of Scotch clear
packing tape, a roll of "pro" masking tape (I wanted Scotch or 3M, but
they didn't have any; cheap masking tape is worthless, as is cheap
packing tape), and a small (3"x5") spiral notebook. I ended up paying
24 cents, which is close enough to zero to be acceptable.

Yard sales really spoil you :-)

--
Cheers, Bev
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Just as you cannot explain snow to a summer insect, so also you cannot
explain ski resorts to someone who walks uphill willingly. --ErikL


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 2:02 pm
From: clams_casino


The Real Bev wrote:

> I got a "$10 off a $10+ purchase" card from Office Max. They do nice
> things like that every once in a while. I got a roll of Scotch clear
> packing tape, a roll of "pro" masking tape (I wanted Scotch or 3M, but
> they didn't have any; cheap masking tape is worthless, as is cheap
> packing tape), and a small (3"x5") spiral notebook. I ended up paying
> 24 cents, which is close enough to zero to be acceptable.
>
> Yard sales really spoil you :-)
>

Received a $10 off coupon in the mail from Kohl's. Found a $36 shirt
on clearance with 60% off that ended up at $4.40.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 2:29 pm
From: "ares"


I did the Kohl's thing too.... cool.
ares


"clams_casino" <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
news:DZNJk.1683$_B6.1043@newsfe12.iad...
>>>
>
> Received a $10 off coupon in the mail from Kohl's. Found a $36 shirt on
> clearance with 60% off that ended up at $4.40.



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TOPIC: SmartGuy.com
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/96761c934fd74112?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 2:55 pm
From: "smartguycom@gmail.com"


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TOPIC: Warning on unplugging to save money
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df565ab499ce5661?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 3:22 pm
From: "Forrest"

"SimeonArgus" <simeontrash@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b46498c3-127d-4621-8908-aa412c40f1c1@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> The hot rave today is "unplugging your devices when not in use."
>
> I just wanted to post -- for all of us frugal savers -- a quick word
> of warning. You see, this advice is actually one of the top bits of
> advice I've found. It really does save a ton of money. But be aware
> that this only applies to devices that don't have a physical "kill"
> switch.
>
> For example, my computer can be powered on by touching a small button
> on the front. That button is waiting to send an electrical pulse to
> some internal electro-gizmo to start the boot process. Where do you
> think the small button on the front is getting the electrical pulse?
> Yep.. it trickles small amounts of electricity. Those small amounts
> add up.
>
> Now, take my washing machine, on the other hand. I have to push a knob
> in until I hear a "click". That click is the sound of the connection
> actually being made in the washer to start the process of using
> electricity. While that knob is up, it doesn't trickle electricity, so
> there's no need in unplugging it and plugging it every time I want to
> use it.
>
> Just a thought to ponder.
>
> <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FrugalLivingTips/~6/1"><img
> src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/FrugalLivingTips.1.gif" alt="Jerry's
> Frugal Living Tips" style="border:0"></a>

Sounds more like a little FYI, than a "WARNING".



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TOPIC: getting cats spayed and neutered
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/291bfc820205c6fb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 3:50 pm
From: "Forrest"

"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
news:gd1708$ojt$1@aioe.org...
>
> "John Savage" <rookswood@suburbian.com.au> wrote in message
> news:0810140140200.14Oct08$rookswood@suburbian.com...
>> OhioGuy <none@none.net> writes:
>>>with us having to come up with $4k over the next 4 months for my wife's
>>>pregnancy. It seems like our family should come first.
>>
>> It is a frequent refrain that pregnant women and cats should not mix.
>> There's some bug carried by many cats that can easily transfer to humans
>> and pose a major danger to the fetus. Rather than rely on my vague
>> recollection (that it can result in abortion) I refer you to google.
>>
>> I'm offline ATM or I'd search further myself.
>> --
>> John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)
>
> First, the cat has to have toxoplasmosis. Second, the pregnant woman has
> to come into direct contact with the feces of the infected cat. Third,
> "fresh" feces do not pose the same danger as day-old or older feces.
> Bottom line: change the litter box once a day and you're fine.

No, the bottom line is: The cats are wild and don't have a pot to piss in
or a litter box to be changed.


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