Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 12 topics

Friday, October 31, 2008

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TOPIC: Frugal protection against burglars
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df5ac12490b632e7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 30 2008 10:13 pm
From: "h"

"Seerialmom" <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4d8af688-007f-4613-92ea-a0007ba5a4d5@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 30, 11:37 am, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> A house on my (normally safe) street just got robbed in broad
> daylight. The sad thing is, even if I'd been there and seen them doing
> it, chances are I wouldn't have suspected anything, since I didn't
> know the owners - or whether they were moving out or selling
> anything!
>
> Please consider telling all your neighbors to call the police if they
> ever see anything like that at your house, unless you TOLD them all in
> advance exactly WHEN the movers would be there. Of course, they're
> more likely to say yes and mean it if you promise to do the same for
> them.
>
> Lenona.

That's assuming you live where you can see your neighbors. I can see parts
(rooflines and the back of a barn) of maybe 5 houses from my property, but I
have no idea who is coming or going. Hell, with the exception of the two
closest neighbors (walking distance), I have no idea who any of those people
are. Of course it's not lot there's a lot of crime in boondockville. We work
at home and rarely leave the house. We'd notice a car driving down our
driveway from the road, and it's not like anyone would get very far on foot.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 3:33 am
From: Coffee's For Closers

In article <4d8af688-007f-4613-92ea-
a0007ba5a4d5@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, seerialmom@yahoo.com
says...
> On Oct 30, 11:37=A0am, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > A house on my (normally safe) street just got robbed in broad
> > daylight. The sad thing is, even if I'd been there and seen them doing
> > it, chances are I wouldn't have suspected anything, since I didn't
> > know the owners - or whether they were moving out or selling
> > anything!
> >
> > Please consider telling all your neighbors to call the police if they
> > ever see anything like that at your house, unless you TOLD them all in
> > advance exactly WHEN the movers would be there. Of course, they're
> > more likely to say yes and mean it if you promise to do the same for
> > them.

> That might work in "some" neighborhoods, but in others these same
> neighbors might be the ones doing the break in.

Yep. It is kind of like announcing, "I don't have a burglar
alarm, but I DO have stuff worth stealing."

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TOPIC: Section 8 Housing Brings African Chaos to American Neighborhoods
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1b27cea04e97966f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 1:16 am
From: For Europeans

Estimates are that 90% of the Section 8 housing beneficiaries in the
Cincinnati area are black. It's pretty easy to read between the lines
in this article:

"They also come with their traits and their habits that come with them
from where they were, which don't fit the culture and the workings of
the community. What it narrows down into is a clash of society. Who's
right, who's wrong? I don't know. I just don't know."

Judy Hinterlong, 47, says she started finding baseball bats, golf
clubs and other melee weapons stashed in the bushes several years ago.
She heard gunshots at night.

The local elementary school was tagged with gang graffiti. Lawn mowers
went missing. One family couldn't afford their Rumpke bill, she says,
so they stashed their trash in a shed out back.

"The whole idea of deconcentrating poverty was supposed to be that you
would pick up middle-class values. But all it's doing is urbanizing
the suburbs," says Hinterlong, the Colerain activist.

"If this really works, why stop at making them middle class? Move them
to Indian Hill and make them doctors and lawyers."

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=523941

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TOPIC: Sex movies and flash porn videos.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb208a7b7c440156?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: RECALLS: Pirate's gold chocolate coins
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5aece12681904d70?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 8:10 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:37:27 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
<seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Oct 30, 12:32 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
>>
>>
>>
>> <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 30, 1:17 am, ultim...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
>>
>> >> With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids
>> >> regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported
>> >> from China.
>>
>> >> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat,
>> >> distribute or sell the candy.
>>
>> >> It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk
>> >> packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores.
>>
>> >> The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible
>> >> for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands
>> >> more.<MORE INFO ON WEB PAGE>
>>
>> >Damn it Jim, is there nothing the Chinese won't put melamine in? I
>> >wonder if all those years of eating off of Melamine plates in the 60's
>> >did any damage? :p
>>
>> Depends -- when you were done with the food, did you chew on the plate
>> for a while? ;-)
>> Dennis (evil)
>> --
>> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>
>I don't think so but I do recall those rolls of lead solder my dad had
>on the work bench. It was neat because it was easy to bite pieces off
>of and chew on. Another fun and dangerous thing we did as kids was
>play with "quicksilver" aka mercury when a thermometer broke.
>Probably ate dinner with unwashed hands right afterwards, too...on
>those Melamine plates :-D

Melamine? You had melamine? You lucky sot. All we had was broken
scraps of carnival glass from Mexico. We used to read by the
radioactivity given off by them at night. Still, there is nothing
like a tasty asbestos, pork fat, and moldy bread sandwich, eaten off a
scrap of carnival glass.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 11:01 am
From: Dennis

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:10:34 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:37:27 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
><seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 30, 12:32 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >On Oct 30, 1:17 am, ultim...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >>http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
>>>
>>> >> With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids
>>> >> regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported
>>> >> from China.
>>>
>>> >> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat,
>>> >> distribute or sell the candy.
>>>
>>> >> It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk
>>> >> packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores.
>>>
>>> >> The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible
>>> >> for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands
>>> >> more.<MORE INFO ON WEB PAGE>
>>>
>>> >Damn it Jim, is there nothing the Chinese won't put melamine in? I
>>> >wonder if all those years of eating off of Melamine plates in the 60's
>>> >did any damage? :p
>>>
>>> Depends -- when you were done with the food, did you chew on the plate
>>> for a while? ;-)
>>> Dennis (evil)
>>> --
>>> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>>
>>I don't think so but I do recall those rolls of lead solder my dad had
>>on the work bench. It was neat because it was easy to bite pieces off
>>of and chew on. Another fun and dangerous thing we did as kids was
>>play with "quicksilver" aka mercury when a thermometer broke.
>>Probably ate dinner with unwashed hands right afterwards, too...on
>>those Melamine plates :-D
>
>Melamine? You had melamine? You lucky sot. All we had was broken
>scraps of carnival glass from Mexico. We used to read by the
>radioactivity given off by them at night. Still, there is nothing
>like a tasty asbestos, pork fat, and moldy bread sandwich, eaten off a
>scrap of carnival glass.

You had real pork fat? Well La-Di-Da, I think I'll have a spot of tea
and biscuits with the queen after the polo match.

We only dreamed of real pork fat as we choked down our used motor
oil-soaked styrofoam sandwiches. And we were glad to have them!

Dennis (evil)
--
I'm a hands-on, footloose, knee-jerk head case. -George Carlin

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 1:52 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Oct 30, 3:17 am, ultim...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
>
> With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids
> regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported
> from China.
>
> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat,
> distribute or sell the candy.
>
> It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk
> packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores.
>
> The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible
> for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands
> more.<MORE INFO ON WEB PAGE>

It contains the same chemical, but not the same toxic dose of the
chemical. This chemical is present in trace amounts in all kinds of
products that are eaten. US companies have also been blamed for
spiking things like flour with it to boost the measured protein
content. Only recently did the FDA set up a tolerable trace level. The
tolerance level for infants and children is zero content I believe
until more research is completed. Canada may be similar. So any trace
of the element, no matter how tiny, would cause a recall as it did in
this case.
The bottom line is not to eat anything that you know comes from China
and if you don't know, don't eat it unless starving.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 2:17 pm
From: BeaForoni

On Oct 30, 1:17 am, ultim...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
>
> With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids
> regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported
> from China.
>
> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat,
> distribute or sell the candy.
>
> It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk
> packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores.
>
> The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible
> for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands
> more.<MORE INFO ON WEB PAGE>

Arrgh! Dem dablooms be givin' me da shits!

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 2:28 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Oct 31, 8:10 am, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:37:27 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
>
>
>
> <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 30, 12:32 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
>
> >> <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 30, 1:17 am, ultim...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
>
> >> >> With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids
> >> >> regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported
> >> >> from China.
>
> >> >> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat,
> >> >> distribute or sell the candy.
>
> >> >> It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk
> >> >> packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores.
>
> >> >> The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible
> >> >> for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands
> >> >> more.<MORE INFO ON WEB PAGE>
>
> >> >Damn it Jim, is there nothing the Chinese won't put melamine in? I
> >> >wonder if all those years of eating off of Melamine plates in the 60's
> >> >did any damage? :p
>
> >> Depends -- when you were done with the food, did you chew on the plate
> >> for a while? ;-)
> >> Dennis (evil)
> >> --
> >> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>
> >I don't think so but I do recall those rolls of lead solder my dad had
> >on the work bench. It was neat because it was easy to bite pieces off
> >of and chew on. Another fun and dangerous thing we did as kids was
> >play with "quicksilver" aka mercury when a thermometer broke.
> >Probably ate dinner with unwashed hands right afterwards, too...on
> >those Melamine plates :-D
>
> Melamine? You had melamine? You lucky sot. All we had was broken
> scraps of carnival glass from Mexico. We used to read by the
> radioactivity given off by them at night. Still, there is nothing
> like a tasty asbestos, pork fat, and moldy bread sandwich, eaten off a
> scrap of carnival glass.

Do you suppose that carnival glass was "leaded"? But yes, in the 60's
"Melamine" aka "MelMac" plates were all the rage. Moms loved them
because the kids couldn't break them.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 4:46 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Oct 31, 4:28 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 31, 8:10 am, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:37:27 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
>
> > <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On Oct 30, 12:32 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
>
> > >> <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >On Oct 30, 1:17 am, ultim...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >>http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
>
> > >> >> With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids
> > >> >> regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported
> > >> >> from China.
>
> > >> >> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat,
> > >> >> distribute or sell the candy.
>
> > >> >> It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk
> > >> >> packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores.
>
> > >> >> The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible
> > >> >> for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands
> > >> >> more.<MORE INFO ON WEB PAGE>
>
> > >> >Damn it Jim, is there nothing the Chinese won't put melamine in? I
> > >> >wonder if all those years of eating off of Melamine plates in the 60's
> > >> >did any damage? :p
>
> > >> Depends -- when you were done with the food, did you chew on the plate
> > >> for a while? ;-)
> > >> Dennis (evil)
> > >> --
> > >> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>
> > >I don't think so but I do recall those rolls of lead solder my dad had
> > >on the work bench. It was neat because it was easy to bite pieces off
> > >of and chew on. Another fun and dangerous thing we did as kids was
> > >play with "quicksilver" aka mercury when a thermometer broke.
> > >Probably ate dinner with unwashed hands right afterwards, too...on
> > >those Melamine plates :-D
>
> > Melamine? You had melamine? You lucky sot. All we had was broken
> > scraps of carnival glass from Mexico. We used to read by the
> > radioactivity given off by them at night. Still, there is nothing
> > like a tasty asbestos, pork fat, and moldy bread sandwich, eaten off a
> > scrap of carnival glass.
>
> Do you suppose that carnival glass was "leaded"? But yes, in the 60's
> "Melamine" aka "MelMac" plates were all the rage. Moms loved them
> because the kids couldn't break them.

The plates and utensils are supposed to be safe because the resin has
set. This is not the powdered form they are finding as additives that
causes kidney stones. I have a few around. I'm not throwing them out.
And don't even try them in the microwave. They will burn. The gases
might not be so safe.

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TOPIC: Cork hard to come by on wine bottles?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2b0408d66c4c1ad4?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 7:16 am
From: Boothbay

On Oct 29, 7:47 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Boothbay
>
> <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> >What's with the wine industry...replacing cork tops with metal caps
> >and white ( ? )..I don't even know what the last one is made of. The
> >last one is so difficult to open and forget about putting it back onto
> >the bottle...its almost impossible. I even had to use a sharp razor to
> >try and taper one end so it could be inserted and it was hard to
> >carve. Finally, after thinking I succeeded, a few minutes later I
> >heard a 'pop' and sure enough the pressure in the bottle, popped the
> >stopper. Why can't they leave it as it was with the cork stopper? Its
> >even harder to see when purchased if it has such a stopper, cause its
> >covered with wax paper, that u can only take off after buying it.
>
> Why not just save a cork next time you find one and use it to reseal
> the next bottle with a plastic stopper?
>
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
> consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.

Why not just save a cork next time you find one and use it to reseal
the next bottle with a plastic stopper?>>>

That's fine, but how can one tell these days...corks,screws are
covered with plastic wrappings...also, while I wait for that eventful
day of getting a cork, the wine would take the vinegar route I was
told. Right now, I got it covered with aluminum.

Dennis (evil)

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:43 am
From: E Z Peaces

Boothbay wrote:
> On Oct 29, 7:47 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Boothbay
>>
>> <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> What's with the wine industry...replacing cork tops with metal caps
>>> and white ( ? )..I don't even know what the last one is made of. The
>>> last one is so difficult to open and forget about putting it back onto
>>> the bottle...its almost impossible. I even had to use a sharp razor to
>>> try and taper one end so it could be inserted and it was hard to
>>> carve. Finally, after thinking I succeeded, a few minutes later I
>>> heard a 'pop' and sure enough the pressure in the bottle, popped the
>>> stopper. Why can't they leave it as it was with the cork stopper? Its
>>> even harder to see when purchased if it has such a stopper, cause its
>>> covered with wax paper, that u can only take off after buying it.
>> Why not just save a cork next time you find one and use it to reseal
>> the next bottle with a plastic stopper?
>>
>> Dennis (evil)
>> --
>> The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
>> consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.
>
> Why not just save a cork next time you find one and use it to reseal
> the next bottle with a plastic stopper?>>>
>
> That's fine, but how can one tell these days...corks,screws are
> covered with plastic wrappings...also, while I wait for that eventful
> day of getting a cork, the wine would take the vinegar route I was
> told. Right now, I got it covered with aluminum.
>

My favorite brands have never used plastic stoppers.

The E & J Gallo Winery produces Night Train Express and Thunderbird (The
American Classic).

Mogen David produces MD 20/20 (If you drink it you won't need glasses.)

The Centerra Wine Company produces Cisco and Richards Wild Irish Rose.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 10:56 am
From: Dennis

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:16:43 -0700 (PDT), Boothbay
<harri85274@aol.com> wrote:

>On Oct 29, 7:47 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Boothbay
>>
>> <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >What's with the wine industry...replacing cork tops with metal caps
>> >and white ( ? )..I don't even know what the last one is made of. The
>> >last one is so difficult to open and forget about putting it back onto
>> >the bottle...its almost impossible. I even had to use a sharp razor to
>> >try and taper one end so it could be inserted and it was hard to
>> >carve. Finally, after thinking I succeeded, a few minutes later I
>> >heard a 'pop' and sure enough the pressure in the bottle, popped the
>> >stopper. Why can't they leave it as it was with the cork stopper? Its
>> >even harder to see when purchased if it has such a stopper, cause its
>> >covered with wax paper, that u can only take off after buying it.
>>
>> Why not just save a cork next time you find one and use it to reseal
>> the next bottle with a plastic stopper?

>That's fine, but how can one tell these days...corks,screws are
>covered with plastic wrappings...also, while I wait for that eventful
>day of getting a cork, the wine would take the vinegar route I was
>told. Right now, I got it covered with aluminum.

Ask a wine-drinking friend, a restaurant or a wine shop for a spare
cork. Or just go to your local homebrew/wine making shop and buy a
handful of new real corks for a dollar or two.

Jeez, you're making this way more complicated than it is. Maybe you
just needed to whine.

Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 6:01 pm
From: The Real Bev

Dennis wrote:

> Ask a wine-drinking friend, a restaurant or a wine shop for a spare
> cork. Or just go to your local homebrew/wine making shop and buy a
> handful of new real corks for a dollar or two.
>
> Jeez, you're making this way more complicated than it is. Maybe you
> just needed to whine.

I remember reading somewhere that it was recently discovered that
aluminum caps work better than corks -- even for expensive wine. Is
this Alcoa propaganda?

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================================
"Everything sucks; reverse the wires and everything will blow."
-- Desert Ed

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:29 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
> Dennis wrote

>> Ask a wine-drinking friend, a restaurant or a wine shop for a spare cork. Or just go to your local homebrew/wine
>> making shop and buy a handful of new real corks for a dollar or two.

>> Jeez, you're making this way more complicated than it is. Maybe you just needed to whine.

> I remember reading somewhere that it was recently discovered that
> aluminum caps work better than corks -- even for expensive wine. Is
> this Alcoa propaganda?

Nope, its true. The only problem is that stupid wine snobs demand corks and get it when its expensive wine.

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TOPIC: Wallet Biopsy with a chain saw
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 10:14 am
From: "viet nam vet."

In article
<georgewkspam-2BE8BB.13122030102008@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
"viet nam vet." <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:

and this up-date.

Ever get taken advantage of by a "service' org.?
Lenny Bruce wanted to write a book of phrases that you could use when
getting
an estimate on some repairs, like a stereo or your car.
Like if the stereo went out, you could use a phrase from the book ,
Well, I don't
have time to fix this stereo because I'm busy putting in a Microwave
tower on the hill.
and the "Car Talk Guys" always warn you against getting your car fixed
when the mechanic's boat payments are due.
Really, sometimes you just are at the mercy of these petty criminals.
My advice , getting an estimate or two.three? Or deal with a friend's
reccomendations
and Good Luck !
--
Money; What a concept !

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TOPIC: Furnace
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6d67f9342ccb4ea3?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:32 am
From: James

I have a forced air natural gas furnace.

Is it a good idea to use a leaf blower to clean the furnace? It might
be easier to blow out the dust and then vaccuum the room instead of
trying to vaccuum the furnace.

Should I crake the window in the furnace room? That way the furnace
will draw air directly from the outside instead of air leaking in all
over the house to feed the furnace. The furnace room is right under
the bedroom so cold air directly into it might make the bedroom less
toasty.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 10:19 am
From: "Bob F"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:194c5ecf-72e4-4529-8148-cdb665db507b@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>I have a forced air natural gas furnace.
>
> Is it a good idea to use a leaf blower to clean the furnace? It might
> be easier to blow out the dust and then vaccuum the room instead of
> trying to vaccuum the furnace.
>
As long as you don't mind filling the ducts and house up with loose dust.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 2:00 pm
From: "JonquilJan"

James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:194c5ecf-72e4-4529-8148-cdb665db507b@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> I have a forced air natural gas furnace.
>
> Is it a good idea to use a leaf blower to clean the furnace? It might
> be easier to blow out the dust and then vaccuum the room instead of
> trying to vaccuum the furnace.
>
> Should I crake the window in the furnace room? That way the furnace
> will draw air directly from the outside instead of air leaking in all
> over the house to feed the furnace. The furnace room is right under
> the bedroom so cold air directly into it might make the bedroom less
> toasty.

The idea is to suck out the dust/debris from the ducts - not blow more into
them - which is what your leaf blower would do. I have my furnace 'guy'
work on the furnace (forced air propane fueled) and I clean out the ducts
with my vacuum extension attachment from above.

JonquilJan

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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 1:42 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Oct 31, 11:32 am, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have a forced air natural gas furnace.
>
> Is it a good idea to use a leaf blower to clean the furnace? It might
> be easier to blow out the dust and then vaccuum the room instead of
> trying to vaccuum the furnace.
>
> Should I crake the window in the furnace room? That way the furnace
> will draw air directly from the outside instead of air leaking in all
> over the house to feed the furnace. The furnace room is right under
> the bedroom so cold air directly into it might make the bedroom less
> toasty.

All the duct cleaning must be done with suction and recovery.
Otherwise, you will spread mold and dust around the home in places you
can never reach with the vacuum. So much for that idea.

The house should remain in a neutral air pressure situation when the
furnace is turned on. Many homes have negative pressure and then you
are sucking cold air into every room through leaks in the wall. There
are products that equalize the pressure and allow the furnace to draw
cold air from outside for the burn process and close afterwards to
prevent drafts into the furnace. One brand name that comes to mind is
Skuttle and another is Equilize-air. (Spelling is a guess.) These
units are cheap and easy to install. They pay for themselves in energy
saved, comfort, and cleaner air because the furnace is not starved.

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Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:58 am
From: James

On Oct 30, 6:17 pm, DoctorTime <doctor...@kamaloca.com> wrote:
> I was fairly impressed with Skype - until I compared their prices with
> onesuite.com.
> I already have been using onesuite.com and been happy with the service
> but people kept telling me how cheap and great skype.com was and I
> tried it at someone else's home and it seemed fine, quality wise.
>
> So I went out and bought a headset/microphone for my computer and then
> as I was signing up for skype I began to look at the rates.
>
> What I found out is that in almost every case, onesuite.com is cheaper
> than skype!
>
> For domestic USA to domestic USA phones (not skype to skype but skype
> to phone), skype is .001 cheaper than onesuite.
>
> But for calls to foreign countries, onesuite is cheaper in most or at
> least many cases.
>
> So before you get hooked into the skype hype, try onesuite. With
> onesuite you don't have to go out and buy a mic/headset.
>
> *I do not work for onesuite and have NO personal gain from posting
> this, I do so only as a public service.
>
> I have not investigated other aspects of skype such as their message
> service and so forth so maybe with other aspects of their service it
> is still as good or better of a deal then onesuite. But for just the
> price of calling long distance, it seems to me onesuite wins out.

Does onesuite have FREE PC calls overseas?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 11:39 am
From: E Z Peaces

hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:16:29 -0400, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>
>> The second is that where I live, there's a group called the Mad
>> Housers that build small homes for the homeless. They come with a wood
>> stove made of 4 shop buckets.
>>
>> http://www.madhousers.org/ajc20021016.htm
>
> Oh great, the slums and shantyhouses of Rio and Haiti move to Atlanta.
> Could this be the future?
>
When the Pilgrims arrived, Plymouth was a ghost town which before the
epidemic had had a population of 5,000, IIRC. Perhaps it had looked
like a shanty town.

The Pilgrims worked hard building houses, but most of them died before
spring, partly because their houses didn't keep them warm and dry. In
England, houses were built by artisans to last for generations. The
Pilgrims didn't have sufficient expertise and resources for that.

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Pilgrim housing had failed because an Englishman's home was his castle.
In a society where a prosperous family's neighbors might be starving,
a house had to provide security from burglars and mobs. That added
greatly to the cost and value of a house. Besides, a family that kept
more of its possessions and activities inside for security would need a
larger house.

The English noted that in the adequacy of their diet, clothing, and
housing, all Indians in the area had the same living standard as English
aristocrats. Missionaries noted that these heathens practiced Gospel
values better than English Christians. The Indians also showed greater
civic responsibility. The English also noted harmony between Indian
generations that wasn't typical in England. One reason was that the
elders would patiently listen to younger Indians before making a
decision. To the English, that form of government was revolutionary.

The Indians in the area believed people should not be kept in poverty.
Being good neighbors and good citizens was very important to them. The
elders took the time to listen. Their villages may have resembled
shanty towns, but they were evidently excellent places to live.

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