Saturday, November 1, 2008

3 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Cork hard to come by on wine bottles? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2b0408d66c4c1ad4?hl=en
* Cheap isolation against freezing pipes in winter? Have a question, guys... -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ccc7a45c5d21ff98?hl=en

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TOPIC: Cork hard to come by on wine bottles?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2b0408d66c4c1ad4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:29 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
> Dennis wrote

>> Ask a wine-drinking friend, a restaurant or a wine shop for a spare cork. Or just go to your local homebrew/wine
>> making shop and buy a handful of new real corks for a dollar or two.

>> Jeez, you're making this way more complicated than it is. Maybe you just needed to whine.

> I remember reading somewhere that it was recently discovered that
> aluminum caps work better than corks -- even for expensive wine. Is
> this Alcoa propaganda?

Nope, its true. The only problem is that stupid wine snobs demand corks and get it when its expensive wine.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:43 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net


On Oct 31, 10:56 am, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jeez, you're making this way more complicated than it is.  Maybe you
> just needed to whine.

I think so as well
We bought a kit with a couple rubber stopper type things, which work
just fine.
If we want to bother, we can also pump the air out of the bottle to
protect the wine if we want to save it that long.
It usually isn't necessary <g>


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TOPIC: Cheap isolation against freezing pipes in winter? Have a question, guys.
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ccc7a45c5d21ff98?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 9:50 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net


On Oct 15, 7:51 am, "A \"That One\"" <georgewks...@humboldt1.com>
wrote:

> did you know the hot water pipes freeze first?

I am aware that a given volume of boiling water will freeze faster
than the same volume of cold water. This is due to the density
difference being great enough that there is substantially less mass of
hot water in that volume, and it will cool down more quickly.

However, hot water pipes? If the water shrinks as it cools, more
water is pulled into the pipes from the rest of the system (assuming
the pipes don't have air bubbles in them). So the mass in a given
length of pipe would increase as the water cools.

Are you confused, or am I missing something?

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