Monday, October 27, 2008

25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* BDSM HARDCORE 1 Tb movi - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d9a871c5fd86e0c?hl=en
* What's the lowest cell phone cost? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/64ff8aa2b5f47ee2?hl=en
* Smallest Houses Ever? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e9f74832b10815e?hl=en
* replacing the blower motor on my car - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e2ed89c096a191e5?hl=en
* Bar soap - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/93325e4f8ba4a9eb?hl=en
* Where are YOU cutting back? - 12 messages, 10 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a47415e5933d30b8?hl=en
* 1 in 25,000 People are Jewish, and 7 in 10 Billionaires... - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df765f9feef4419b?hl=en
* Gas. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/29c665c81bbb67da?hl=en
* - 1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/?hl=en

==============================================================================
TOPIC: BDSM HARDCORE 1 Tb movi
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d9a871c5fd86e0c?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 6:22 am
From: krystinacarle@gmail.com


http://traxanki.byethost15.com/bdsm.htm BDSM http://traxanki.byethost15.com/hardcore.htm
HARDCORE http://s0x0.blogspot.com http://groups.google.com/group/porntube-best-movies-collection


==============================================================================
TOPIC: What's the lowest cell phone cost?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/64ff8aa2b5f47ee2?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 7:56 am
From: "Dave"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c5d0dcf7-e8d7-43e2-8652-ee2cb5f98011@v15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> I pay $28 a month for land line for unlimited local calls. Is it
> worth it for me to look into replacing it with a cell phone?

Well, Cricket is advertising $30/month unlimited talk, or $45/month
unlimited everything.

http://www.mycricket.com/

I've thought about it myself, but would need to know what network they are
on, and what their sharing agreements are. If they are GSM and share with
ATT/T-Mobile, then that's a pretty good deal. IF they have good signal
strength at your house, that is. -Dave


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 9:58 am
From: George


Dave wrote:
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c5d0dcf7-e8d7-43e2-8652-ee2cb5f98011@v15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> I pay $28 a month for land line for unlimited local calls. Is it
>> worth it for me to look into replacing it with a cell phone?
>
> Well, Cricket is advertising $30/month unlimited talk, or $45/month
> unlimited everything.
>
> http://www.mycricket.com/
>
> I've thought about it myself, but would need to know what network they are
> on, and what their sharing agreements are. If they are GSM and share with
> ATT/T-Mobile, then that's a pretty good deal. IF they have good signal
> strength at your house, that is. -Dave
>
>
Cricket uses CDMA and their unlimited plan only covers use in the few
markets they serve:

http://www.mycricket.com/cricketcoveragemaps/area?hocode=510#nationalmap

From their website you need to kick in more if you are outside those areas.



==============================================================================
TOPIC: Smallest Houses Ever?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e9f74832b10815e?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 8:27 am
From: "viet nam vet."


In article <Z4ydnUt0bPWtpp_UnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:

> Al Bundy wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 3:34 pm, ukie <U.Betcher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I found this site through reading a news article yesterday. I thought
> >> some folks here might get a kick out of it.
> >> It's a guy who builds and sells tiny little houses. I've always
> >> daydreamed about living in an Airstream trailer or maybe a converted
> >> train car, but these homes seem pretty cool too (as long as you're not
> >> claustrophobic):
> >>
> >> http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
> >
> > "A man who owns little is little owned."
> > I thought it was interesting too. The owner I saw is a builder and I
> > suspect he may be trying to make a point to generate sales. Maybe not
> > because he has built many homes under 300 feet. I'll simply say I
> > favor the idea of simplification. I have too much extra stuff around.
> > Every time I get rid of something, I find a need for it. But I will
> > keep working on the reduction plan.
>
> Just a few ideas. IKEA has demos inside their store at living in
> various small spaces, fully furnished with IKEA's goods, of course. The
> smallest is about 160 sf, I believe. All seem very livable.
>
> The second is that where I live, there's a group called the Mad
> Housers that build small homes for the homeless. They come with a wood
> stove made of 4 shop buckets.
>
> http://www.madhousers.org/ajc20021016.htm
>
> Lastly, I have a small trailer that has about 50 SF of floor space.
> Not only did it tour the US with a family of up to 7 members, but it has
> housed the occasional in transition friend. Although small, it is quite
> a delight. You have to live partly outdoors in such a small space and
> that can be invigorating.
>
> Jeff

I think the point in this small home movement is to set down some roots
and as you "save" money you add on.
Hint' get a building permit for the minimum sq. footage and have
additions appear.
Hopefully made of recycled materials and stuff you got "On Sale"
--
Money; What a concept !

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 9:10 am
From: Dennis


On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:34:55 -0700 (PDT), ukie
<U.Betcherass@gmail.com> wrote:

>I found this site through reading a news article yesterday. I thought
>some folks here might get a kick out of it.
>It's a guy who builds and sells tiny little houses. I've always
>daydreamed about living in an Airstream trailer or maybe a converted
>train car, but these homes seem pretty cool too (as long as you're not
>claustrophobic):
>
>http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

I first saw this in an "alternative living" article in Mother Earth
News:

http://hometown.aol.com/lsloanpdx/lsloanpdx/index.html

During my single years after my divorce, I used to daydream about
building a similar houseboat and living on it. I met the guy who
originally built and lived on it. I even ordered the set of plans
from MEN. Still looks interesting to me as a retirement project.


Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 10:52 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:10:49 -0700, Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:34:55 -0700 (PDT), ukie
><U.Betcherass@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I found this site through reading a news article yesterday. I thought
>>some folks here might get a kick out of it.
>>It's a guy who builds and sells tiny little houses. I've always
>>daydreamed about living in an Airstream trailer or maybe a converted
>>train car, but these homes seem pretty cool too (as long as you're not
>>claustrophobic):
>>
>>http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
>
>I first saw this in an "alternative living" article in Mother Earth
>News:
>
>http://hometown.aol.com/lsloanpdx/lsloanpdx/index.html
>
>During my single years after my divorce, I used to daydream about
>building a similar houseboat and living on it. I met the guy who
>originally built and lived on it. I even ordered the set of plans
>from MEN. Still looks interesting to me as a retirement project.
>
>
>Dennis (evil)

I think it may have been TMEN that also had an article of a couple in
La. that built a house on a used barge. Solved any flooding issues
for them in the bayous.

The small house idea is common to a lot of people. Google "Heather's
house," or look in the Tennessee forum on city-data.com to see the
thread on the non-electric house in McMinnville Co..

24' x 24' seems to be a good size.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 10:58 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:16:29 -0400, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:

> The second is that where I live, there's a group called the Mad
>Housers that build small homes for the homeless. They come with a wood
>stove made of 4 shop buckets.
>
>http://www.madhousers.org/ajc20021016.htm

Oh great, the slums and shantyhouses of Rio and Haiti move to Atlanta.
Could this be the future?


==============================================================================
TOPIC: replacing the blower motor on my car
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e2ed89c096a191e5?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 8:33 am
From: "viet nam vet."


In article <JP6dnRnVhIz33GPVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:

> Vic Smith wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:25:45 -0400, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone know how to move an alternator up and out of the way on a 1996
> >> Buick Century? (or where I might be able to find some helpful info on
> >> something like that?) Thanks!
> >
> > Ask at rec.autos.tech.
>
>
> Or get a repair manual. That's a common enough problem. You can read the
> manual in store if you don't feel like coughing up the $12.
>
> I believe Auto Zone also has as online "How To".
>
> Jeff
>
> But if it close to being like most of the
> > similar GM's I've done, it goes like this:
> > Turn the tensioner to loosen and disconnect the serpentine belt from
> > the alt pulley.
> > Use a wrench or maybe a pry bar. Be careful you don't break anything
> > with the pry bar.
> > Remove a couple bolts to move the alt.
> > If you have mess with the wiring to the alt, or there's the chance of
> > it shorting anywhere on the engine, disconnect the battery first.
> > Reverse the process after you replace the blower motor.
> > If you disconnected the battery, you might have to "relearn"
> > the electronics.
> > You can look that up, or ask at rec.autos.tech.
> > Don't hold me responsible if you mess something up.
> > Just be careful and know what you're doing before you start.
> >
> > --Vic

I have seen owner's repair manuals at Used Book stores.
anyway good luck.
--
Money; What a concept !


==============================================================================
TOPIC: Bar soap
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/93325e4f8ba4a9eb?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 8:47 am
From: Too_Many_Tools


On Oct 20, 2:11 pm, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:08:26 -0500, Petepeng...@webtv.net (P T) wrote:
> >I wonder what other people do with the end of a bar of soap.  Being a
> >frugal person, I get it good and squishy moist, and p-r-e-s-s it onto a
> >new bar of soap.  I've been known to save the unused portion of a
> >mini-bar from a hotel, and do the same.  Sometimes it doesn't look
> >pretty, but it's only soap.
>
> Woo hoo!  A Keeper posting and a Recycle Soap Slivers posting in the
> same day!  
>
> Can the Reusing Toilet Paper troll be far behind?
>
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

Well there is a REASON why toilet paper has two sides. ;<)

TMT


==============================================================================
TOPIC: Where are YOU cutting back?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a47415e5933d30b8?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 8:57 am
From: Too_Many_Tools


In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
farther?

I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to hear
how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.

Thanks

TMT

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 9:26 am
From: Doug Winterburn


Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
> farther?
>
> I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to hear
> how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.
>
> Thanks
>
> TMT

I'm spreading the wealth around. Bought new tires and a 32" LCD TV for
the 5th wheel. Ordered a Grizzly G0555 bandsaw on sale for $379.
Stimulating the economy as best I can.

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 9:32 am
From: Morris Dovey


Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
> farther?

I'm not cutting back. Instead I'm working to help people cut forward.

It /does/ take a bit of thinking about... :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 9:50 am
From: "Ed Pawlowski"

"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:68bba63c-348a-4da5-a10c-26d31e952c5b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
> farther?
>
> I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to hear
> how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.
>
> Thanks
>
> TMT

Doing less, but still doing everything as in the past. The price of gas and
heating oil is costing me about $300 a month over last year. I wanted to
build some new end tables, but they are pushed back a bit; instead I'm
making a couple of picture frames. There are a couple of other small
projects that I want to do cabinet, shelves) that can be done with pine
boards, not cherry.

All the money saving articles tell you to eat at home instead of at a
restaurant. OK, it is cheaper but stopping that once a week meal can put
the restaurant and all its employees out of business. I may skip the wine
or cocktail, but still order a normal meal. At home I may buy a chicken
instead of a rib roast. I skipped lobster at $10.99 and now it is on sale
at $3.99. Good bourbon is still about the same price though. I should
stock up.


== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 11:21 am
From: Ignoramus3071


I now use both sides of toilet paper

i


On 2008-10-25, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
> farther?
>
> I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to hear
> how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.
>
> Thanks
>
> TMT

--
Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention
to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating
from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by
more readers you will need to find a different means of
posting on Usenet.
http://improve-usenet.org/

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 11:27 am
From: "Terry Coombs"


Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
> farther?
>
> I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to hear
> how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.
>
> Thanks
>
> TMT

Only place we've cut back is fuel . The wife has a camper to stay in
during the week , since she teacches 45+ miles from where we live .
I haven't really cut back anywhere . In fact , I'm moving forward with my
plans to build a foundry to cast aluminum (and maybe bronze/brass later) ,
just finished pouring the hot face in my five gallon furnace . Firin' this
bad boy with a burner built similar to the Reil burners - based on his ,
actually .
Truth is , my wife is one verry verry savvy lady , has been doing a lot of
this "new" frugal stuff for years . She could WRITE those magazine articles
...
--
Snag
A good woman should be BESIDE her man ...


== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:06 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...

Some do, some dont.

> so where are you cutting back, reprioritizing resources,
> whatever to make that dollar go farther?

Nowhere, nada, ziltch.

> I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to
> hear how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.


== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:26 pm
From: "Sac Dave"

"Morris Dovey" <mrdovey@iedu.com> wrote in message
news:49034a4d$0$33227$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
>> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
>> farther?
>
> I'm not cutting back. Instead I'm working to help people cut forward.
>
> It /does/ take a bit of thinking about... :)
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

If you are into solar What should a 5.96 KW AC system cost . 30 panels (
sunpower SPR-225-BLK-U) one inverter ( sunpower SPR-7000m) We just
started looking into Solar because of high electric cost in our area (
Pacific Gas & Electric) Just curious if you would have any Idea.


== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:13 pm
From: "JonquilJan"


Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:68bba63c-348a-4da5-a10c-26d31e952c5b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...so where are you cutting
> back, reprioritizing resources, whatever to make that dollar go
> farther?
>
> I am also posting this in the metal and wood working groups to hear
> how those who pursue the hobby are allotting their resources.
>
> Thanks
>
> TMT

Letting some magazine subscriptions expire without renewing.
Making Christmas (and birthday) presents by hand instead of buying
(needlework)
Cutting out a lot of 'extra' comfort food purchases.
Hanging tarps/curtains over doorways to keep heat in the most lived in
areas/avoiding drafts.
Getting more from the 'day old' racks of produce. (Makes good soup - and
salads if used immediately).
Making some breads from scratch instead of purchasing.
Cancelling book club memberships (too tempting to buy).

All little things - but they add up.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

.

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:51 pm
From: William Souden


Rod Speed wrote:
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> In tough times consumers tend to cut back...
>
> Some do, some dont.
>
>> so where are you cutting back, reprioritizing resources,
>> whatever to make that dollar go farther?
>
> Nowhere, nada, ziltch.
>

When you survive on welfare subsistence you have nothing to cut back.

>

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:53 pm
From: William Souden


canceled the local paper, the LA Times, and read it on line. I
still get the NY times and the web version misses a lot of stories from
the print edition.
>
>
>

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:57 pm
From: Morris Dovey


Sac Dave wrote:

> If you are into solar What should a 5.96 KW AC system cost . 30 panels (
> sunpower SPR-225-BLK-U) one inverter ( sunpower SPR-7000m) We just
> started looking into Solar because of high electric cost in our area (
> Pacific Gas & Electric) Just curious if you would have any Idea.

[responding from rec.woodworking]

I don't know. I stay pretty focused on thermal solar (heating, cooling,
and pumping), rather than photovoltaic. A good place to check would be
on news:alt.solar.photovoltaic where there are some folks in PG&E territory.

My accumulation of useful info from ASPV went down the drain with a
Windows/ME crash on my previous computer.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/


==============================================================================
TOPIC: 1 in 25,000 People are Jewish, and 7 in 10 Billionaires...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df765f9feef4419b?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 9:03 am
From: "Lubow"


If I were you, I would stop the hatemongering and stick with the winners.


"LOVE Europe HATE the EU" <zzzxtyryyetytryey@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:f97adaaa-2599-41e8-ace6-97cc5c5cea76@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Daryl.Bradford.Smith/CII.2008.10.24.Fri.1of2.Smith.mp3
>
> http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Daryl.Bradford.Smith/CII.2008.10.24.Fri.2of2.Smith.mp3
>
> http://www.iamthewitness.com
>
> While this list may never be complete, it will cover most of the
> Jewish names one is likely to encounter in everyday Western life.
> Unlike many gentile names, there is such a thing as a 'Jewish name.'
> Many Jewish persons can be recognized as being Jewish by their surname
> [last name], although not always--some Jews are adopted, or their
> forebears changed the family surname, or their surname simply does not
> appear Jewish.
>
> Here are the most common Jewish names likely to be encountered:
>
> -Names ending in "-berg" (Goldberg, Weinberg, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-man" (Goldman, Lightman, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-stein" (Einstein, Perlstein, etc.)
>
> -Names that sound "precious" (Gold, Silver, Diamond, Ruby (Rubenstein)
> etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-ler" (Adler, Midler, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-ner" (Asner, Lardner, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-lin" (Gitlin, Sheindlin, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-band" (Miliband, Goldband, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-witz" (Horowitz, Rabinowitz, etc.) or "-
> itz" (Kravitz, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-baum" (Teitelbaum, Metzenbaum, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-off" (Chartoff, Berkhoff, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-nik" (Resnik, Mitnik, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-thal" (Blumenthal, Rosenthal, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-ling" (Spelling, Sperling, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-sky" (Barshefsky, Linsky, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-farb" (Himmelfarb, Goldfarb, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-feld" (Seinfeld, Rosenfeld, etc.)
>
> -Names ending in "-stone" (Wellstone, Firestone, etc.)
>
> -Some, but certainly not all, names ending in "-son" (Abelson,
> Josephson, etc.)
>
> -Surnames that sound "Biblical," e.g., David, Joseph, Abram or
> Abraham, Moses, Benjamin, Isaac, etc.
>
> Some other common Jewish names:
>
> -Miller
> -Davis
> -Ross
> -Lewis
> -Roth
> -Morris
> -Davidson
> -Green
> -Wolf
> -Newman
> -Gross
> -Harris
> -Sherman
> -Myers
> -Mayer
> -Jacobs
> -Aaron
> -Michael
> -Hirsch
> -Raphael
> -Tobias
> -Levy
> -Brand
> -Cohen
> -Kaplan
> -Weiss
> -Nathan
> -Leo
> -Levine
> -Simon
> -Levin
> -Samuel
> -Falk
> -Wise
> -Gottfried
> -Gottlieb
> -Mann
> -Mathis
> -May
> -Mars
> -Marx
> -Marks
> -Saul
> -Gould
> -Fink
> -Loeb
> -Loew
> -Rubin
> -Stern
> -Shapiro
> -Klein
> -Cohn
> -Singer
> -Frank
> -Schwartz
> -Rich
> -Kahn
> -Kramer

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 10:15 am
From: Paul Hyett


On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 at 03:40:38, LOVE Europe HATE the EU
<zzzxtyryyetytryey@googlemail.com> wrote in alt.politics.british :
>
>While this list may never be complete, it will cover most of the
>Jewish names one is likely to encounter in everyday Western life.
>Unlike many gentile names, there is such a thing as a 'Jewish name.'
>Many Jewish persons can be recognized as being Jewish by their surname
>[last name], although not always--some Jews are adopted, or their
>forebears changed the family surname, or their surname simply does not
>appear Jewish.
>
>Here are the most common Jewish names likely to be encountered:
>
<Snip>
>
>Some other common Jewish names:
>
<Snip>

All I can say is - yeah, so what? Everybody has a name.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


==============================================================================
TOPIC: Gas.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/29c665c81bbb67da?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:16 pm
From: "JonquilJan"


MarieD <abc@123.com> wrote in message
news:5VuMk.14046$UD6.4411@newsfe07.iad...
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5b701c66-5548-4676-8dd4-a801946a9529@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > Filled up today. $1 a gallon cheaper than my last fill up. 16 cents
> > cheaper per gallow than yesterday at a different Exxon station 15
> > miles away.
>
> In my area of South Carolina, gas that I've seen is $2.34-$2.57. I filled
up
> today for $2.34.
> Marie
>

Yesterday price was $2.95 at 12:30 pm. Was down to $2.91 by 3:45 pm. I
filled up on the 13th and gas gauge still reads full so no room for more
right now (I obviously don't drive a lot.) Northern New York

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying



==============================================================================
TOPIC:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/?hl=en
==============================================================================

==============================================================================

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "misc.consumers.frugal-living"
group.

To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to misc.consumers.frugal-living+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/subscribe?hl=en

To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com

==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/?hl=en

No comments: