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TOPIC: vaseline to stop leaks
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 11:23 pm
From: Dave Garland

john zeiss wrote:
> Any suggestions without the unsightly tape on the topside? I was thinking
> of smearing vaseline on all the rubber sealing strips, but maybe something
> else would be better?

Vaseline is hard on rubber. Maybe silicone grease would be a better choice.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 12:29 am
From: Abo

john zeiss wrote:
> We have a 1994 Corolla 1.3 two door. The sun roof was not factory fitted,
> but
> has been very good and only just started leaking this year.
>
> Any suggestions without the unsightly tape on the topside? I was thinking
> of smearing vaseline on all the rubber sealing strips, but maybe something
> else would be better?
>
> I'm happy not to open the sunroof at all except perhaps for the summer time,
> and if the leak gets worse I would consider sealing it up for good.
> Grateful for any advice, thanks.

Washing up liquid?

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 1:57 am
From: "Duncan Wood"

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:29:23 -0000, Abo <no@spam.thanks> wrote:

> john zeiss wrote:
>> We have a 1994 Corolla 1.3 two door. The sun roof was not factory
>> fitted, but
>> has been very good and only just started leaking this year.
>> Any suggestions without the unsightly tape on the topside? I was
>> thinking
>> of smearing vaseline on all the rubber sealing strips, but maybe
>> something
>> else would be better?
>> I'm happy not to open the sunroof at all except perhaps for the summer
>> time,
>> and if the leak gets worse I would consider sealing it up for good.
>> Grateful for any advice, thanks.
>
> Washing up liquid?

Does trash rubber, yes.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 2:35 am
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:29:23 +0000, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Abo
<no@spam.thanks> wrote:

>john zeiss wrote:
>> We have a 1994 Corolla 1.3 two door. The sun roof was not factory fitted,
>> but
>> has been very good and only just started leaking this year.
>>
>> Any suggestions without the unsightly tape on the topside? I was thinking
>> of smearing vaseline on all the rubber sealing strips, but maybe something
>> else would be better?
>>
>> I'm happy not to open the sunroof at all except perhaps for the summer time,
>> and if the leak gets worse I would consider sealing it up for good.
>> Grateful for any advice, thanks.
>
>Washing up liquid?

we don't have washing up liquid, we have dishwashing soap.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 9:19 am
From: "Angus Manwaring"

On 13-Nov-08 14:37:45, Mark said
>"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.238647f0c2f61feb9896ac@news.individual.net...
>> In article <51501ddd-abf9-4f9c-8a22-ba397d8998a2
>> @z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, mr p says...>
>>
>>> has it got drain holes in the surround ? Sometimes sun roofs leak
>>> because drain holes are blocked..
>>
>> It's not factory fitted. It's one of those pikey flat things in a metal
>> frame put in a hole cut into the roof with a jigsaw.
>>

>On Caroline we used to talk about LA and DA.

Hey man, that's the way - face piles of trials with smiles

.....3....1....9

seems to ring a bell, :)

All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

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TOPIC: black mould washing machine door seal
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 8:09 am
From: Huge

On 2008-11-14, trader4@optonline.net <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 8:39 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2008-11-14, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Bob Eager wrote:
>>
>> >>On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:26:01 UTC, ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
>> >>wrote:
>>
>> >>>In article <2l6ph4pvf77e8lssdn7eggq99iv6efb...@4ax.com>,
>> >>>Mike <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>[ ... ] Then they tumble dry the washing into
>> >>>>submission when they have a house on a 2 acre plot and outside its 80
>> >>>>deg C, with a gentle breeze and blue sky as far as you can see.
>>
>> >>> [ ... ]
>>
>> >>>>Not my words but essentially those of a Professor in fabric technology
>> >>>>at a UK university.
>>
>> >>>You have a professor at a UK university who thinks places in the US
>> >>>routinely have 80C temperatures? That's 176F; doesn't happen.
>>
>> >>Making a lot out of a typo, aren't you?
>>
>> > I suppose the "heat it to boiling for a couple of hours" claim was also
>> > a typo?
>>
>> No, it was the truth.
>
>
> What an ignoramus.

Indeed you are. But did you have anything constructive to say?

--
"I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose
happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas Jefferson
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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 1:49 am
From: Huge

On 2008-11-15, Archon <Chipbee40_SpamNo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> to smelly washers is to run them on 240V and put a freakin heater in
> them, jeez theres a heater in the dishwasher, (Which fills from hot,
> unlike the UK)

Not universally true. I have seen Maytag dishwashers with heaters.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 1:47 am
From: Huge

On 2008-11-14, trader4@optonline.net <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 10:14 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2008-11-14, trad...@optonline.net <trad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> >> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> > US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
>> >> > you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>>
>> >> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
>> >> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>> >> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>> >> fixed if it fails.
>>
>> > The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
>> > other front loading machines sold in the US use.
>>
>> And there are shitloads of those, right?
>
> Well, actually yes, there are lots of front loaders being sold. If
> you got away from watching cartoons and went to any appliance store
> you would see that the stores are full of them.

One of the less attractive traits of Merkins is the utter inability to admit
they're wrong.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 2:33 am
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

On 15 Nov 2008 09:47:31 GMT, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Huge
<Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

>On 2008-11-14, trader4@optonline.net <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 10:14 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2008-11-14, trad...@optonline.net <trad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> >> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
>>> >> > you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>>>
>>> >> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
>>> >> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>>> >> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>>> >> fixed if it fails.
>>>
>>> > The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
>>> > other front loading machines sold in the US use.
>>>
>>> And there are shitloads of those, right?
>>
>> Well, actually yes, there are lots of front loaders being sold. If
>> you got away from watching cartoons and went to any appliance store
>> you would see that the stores are full of them.
>
>One of the less attractive traits of Merkins is the utter inability to admit
>they're wrong.

you don't need he detergent in a front loader! it is a rip off, just use less
of the regular stuff.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 4:34 am
From: trader4@optonline.net

On Nov 15, 4:47 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-11-14, trad...@optonline.net <trad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 14, 10:14 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2008-11-14, trad...@optonline.net <trad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> >> > US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
> >> >> > you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>
> >> >> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
> >> >> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
> >> >> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
> >> >> fixed if it fails.
>
> >> > The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
> >> > other front loading machines sold in the US use.
>
> >> And there are shitloads of those, right?
>
> > Well, actually yes, there are lots of front loaders being sold. If
> > you got away from watching cartoons and went to any appliance store
> > you would see that the stores are full of them.
>
> One of the less attractive traits of Merkins is the utter inability to admit
> they're wrong.

And exactly who's wrong here about what? Let's recap. Someone
posted:

"you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,"

To which you replied:

">> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US
now, although as
>> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>> fixed if it fails. "

That makes the false implication that because Bosch's washers are
being sold in the US, that they are a European type front loader
machine, in some way identical to the features, voltages, cycles, etc
of the European machines being discussed in this thread. For
example, in this thread it was claimed that European machines don't
need a hot water connection because they do any heating themselves.
I can assure you that the front loaders sold here do require a hot
water connection, just as any washer would. Just because they are
Bosch doesn't mean that besides being front loaders they are European
machines. In fact, they are made for the US market and are similar to
ALL THE OTHER FRONT LOADERS SOLD HERE.

And the HE type detergent that ALL the manufacturers of front loaders
being sold in the US recommend, including Bosch, is widely
available. Tide HE is but one common example that you can find in
just about any supermarket. You're dead wrong on that one.

And then after I posted:

> The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
> other front loading machines sold in the US use.

Your reply was:

"And there are shitloads of those, right? "

As another poster pointed out, from Maytag's website, 6 of the 15
washers they sell here are front loaders. Take a look at a common
retailer, BestBuy's website.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0910001&type=category

They have 23 top loaders and 73 FRONT LOADERS as line items. Front
loader manufacturers are Whirlpool, LG, Frigidaire, Maytag, GE,
Samsung, Electrolux, and Kitchenaid. And given the price delta,
which do you think they push and sell? Walk into the store and the
front loaders are prominently featured, the top loaders are in the
back.

So, living in the UK, stop making an ass of yourself about that which
you don't know. Perhaps using rumours as if they were fact is your
major malfunction.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 5:16 am
From: Rod

trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> On Nov 15, 4:47 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2008-11-14, trad...@optonline.net <trad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 10:14 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2008-11-14, trad...@optonline.net <trad...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
>>>>>>> you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>>>>>> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
>>>>>> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>>>>>> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>>>>>> fixed if it fails.
>>>>> The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
>>>>> other front loading machines sold in the US use.
>>>> And there are shitloads of those, right?
>>> Well, actually yes, there are lots of front loaders being sold. If
>>> you got away from watching cartoons and went to any appliance store
>>> you would see that the stores are full of them.
>> One of the less attractive traits of Merkins is the utter inability to admit
>> they're wrong.
>
>
> And exactly who's wrong here about what? Let's recap. Someone
> posted:
>
> "you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,"
>
> To which you replied:
>
> ">> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US
> now, although as
>>> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>>> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>>> fixed if it fails. "
>
>
>
> That makes the false implication that because Bosch's washers are
> being sold in the US, that they are a European type front loader
> machine, in some way identical to the features, voltages, cycles, etc
> of the European machines being discussed in this thread. For
> example, in this thread it was claimed that European machines don't
> need a hot water connection because they do any heating themselves.
> I can assure you that the front loaders sold here do require a hot
> water connection, just as any washer would. Just because they are
> Bosch doesn't mean that besides being front loaders they are European
> machines. In fact, they are made for the US market and are similar to
> ALL THE OTHER FRONT LOADERS SOLD HERE.
>
> And the HE type detergent that ALL the manufacturers of front loaders
> being sold in the US recommend, including Bosch, is widely
> available. Tide HE is but one common example that you can find in
> just about any supermarket. You're dead wrong on that one.
>
> And then after I posted:
>
>> The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
>> other front loading machines sold in the US use.
>
> Your reply was:
>
> "And there are shitloads of those, right? "
>
>
> As another poster pointed out, from Maytag's website, 6 of the 15
> washers they sell here are front loaders. Take a look at a common
> retailer, BestBuy's website.
>
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0910001&type=category
>
> They have 23 top loaders and 73 FRONT LOADERS as line items. Front
> loader manufacturers are Whirlpool, LG, Frigidaire, Maytag, GE,
> Samsung, Electrolux, and Kitchenaid. And given the price delta,
> which do you think they push and sell? Walk into the store and the
> front loaders are prominently featured, the top loaders are in the
> back.
>
>
> So, living in the UK, stop making an ass of yourself about that which
> you don't know. Perhaps using rumours as if they were fact is your
> major malfunction.
>
>
>
On the other hand the Bosch WAS20160UC (a current model in the US)
requires Nominal voltage: 220-240V, 60Hz; Nominal current: 15A. Which is
remarkably close to the specification of broadly similar models in
Europe. (OK - let us accept the 50/60 Hz thing is a minor difference.)

It does have hot and cold fill - but that seems unrelated to the
machine's electrical spec. (I.e. at that rating, a fairly decent
internal heating element is quite feasible.)

If you go to the WFMC8440UC model, you get:

Internal Water Heater
An internal heating element heats the water to up to 170 F while a
digital temperature sensor continually monitors the water temperature.
Bosch Nexxt washers deliver the most efficient and accurate water
heating method for each selected fabric type.

(Though that is a 110-120V model with just 1350W rating.)

--
Rod

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Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 5:54 am
From: Chris

kiptu13@gmail.com wrote:
> I am an entrepreneur with a limitless ambition to create a global
> internet space where everyone can shop ...

At the next shareholders meeting suggest a motion to create an email
domain, so you don't have to USE GMAIL!!!

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TOPIC: Cheap Advertising, Great Results!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 7:34 am
From: Realtor Rich

Take your still photos and email them to http://www.3minutevideoads.com
. They will resize and edit them. Then they'll put them in a video
[yeah...stills in a video], edit the video then add captions and
leads. Then they do the voice over. Finally, they format the video
for the web and publish it on the internet. ALL THIS FOR $40 BUCKS!!

You take the weblink to the video and plaster it all over town...or
the country...or the world. Put it on your yard sign, put it in your
[God forbid] classified ad, put it in every internet forum from here
to eternity. Put it FREE on Google, Yahoo and Blogger http://
jacksonvilletoday.blogspot.com

This is the brave new world of marketing and advertising. This is
what's happening. Classified ads are dead. Internet video rules!!

Internet video ads last as long as you want and classifieds last ONE
PRINTING.

eMAIL ME FROM THE LINK BELOW

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TOPIC: Need a new camera
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 8:08 am
From: Al Bundy

On Nov 15, 1:34 am, OhioGuy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> Hi! What do you guys thing of this:
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/580519-REG/Canon_3190B001_Power...
>
> It doesn't meet ALL of my criteria, but it looks pretty good for
> $204.95 plus ship. My only concern really is the 2 AA batteries,
> instead of 4.
>
> I want to use AA's because I just bought a bunch of those hybrids -
> the low discharge NIMH.
>
> I'd like a good zoom because I'm trying to get good pictures of an
> albino squirrel that I'd like to do a story on. My current camera only
> has a 3x optical zoom, and about 4mp, and everything I get when zoomed
> in is just too blocky looking. For personal use, there are also many
> times when I'd like more of a close up picture of a bird, wildlife, or
> nature scene that is far off.

No offense intended, but you surely need more practice with the camera
you have it would seem. I could take that picture without any zoom and
make it clear and vibrant. Maybe the camera is defective. Maybe there
are settings you are not using that would improve the image. I would
suggest changing the focus strategy that the camera uses. Most have
options there. It sounds like you are not focused properly. If you are
merely using the automatic settings on the camera, you are doomed to
failure. I believe the key to good photography is to take lots of
shots. Change the settings and take the shot different ways. I keep my
manual setting with the light exposure bumped up 1/3 because many
digital pictures are under exposed. I can then shoot quickly on
automatic and manual before adding other optional variations.
And don't assume you are done when the picture is taken. You can
enhance the photos and cover your errors.
Like they say, "You can't buy a better golf score with more equipment."

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 8:38 am
From: OhioGuy

> No offense intended, but you surely need more practice with the camera

You're probably right - I've never messed with most of the settings.
My current problem is that I'm so far away from the squirrel in
question that the max optical zoom still has him way, WAY too small in
the resulting pictures, so I have to engage the digital zoom to even get
it close to the necessary size.

We're talking about a squirrel here, roughly 1 foot in size, and 80
to 100 feet away. I think the digital zoom is what ends up making it
look blocky in the resulting pictures, because the camera said something
like
"200k resolution" when I was zoomed in. I think that's two tenths of a
megapixel resolution, right? Not so great, which was why I was looking
for a better optical zoom and higher resolution. My current camera just
isn't up to the job.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 9:04 am
From: Jeff

OhioGuy wrote:
>
>> No offense intended, but you surely need more practice with the camera
>
> You're probably right - I've never messed with most of the settings.
> My current problem is that I'm so far away from the squirrel in
> question that the max optical zoom still has him way, WAY too small in
> the resulting pictures, so I have to engage the digital zoom to even get
> it close to the necessary size.
>
> We're talking about a squirrel here, roughly 1 foot in size, and 80 to
> 100 feet away. I think the digital zoom is what ends up making it look
> blocky in the resulting pictures, because the camera said something like
> "200k resolution" when I was zoomed in. I think that's two tenths of a
> megapixel resolution, right? Not so great, which was why I was looking
> for a better optical zoom and higher resolution. My current camera just
> isn't up to the job.

That's a long way off.

Note that you can buy after market adapters that increase the focal
length of the lens (more zoom) for not a lot of money. Some of these
just clip on. Caveats about this in a bit.

Bear in mind that this will give you a slower lens. So either longer
exposures or higher ASA. And of course, you will have too much depth of
field because the lens is working at a smaller aperture.

There's an art to shooting wildlife at great distances and generally
you'll need a fast long lens to get the subject sharp and the background
out of focus. Buy a Canon with the fastest longest lens that you can
afford. They will always publish the minimum fstop at full zoom (smaller
is faster) so you can look that up. And try to get the camera closer,
many of these cameras have remotes. You have lot of obstacles in the way
of getting a good image.

Jeff

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 8:31 am
From: OhioGuy

I've got several virtual debit cards that have exactly $2 each left
on them. They all expire at the end of the month. I printed them out
for reference, and was going to chuck them in the trash, but stopped
myself. I hate feeling like I'm throwing 8 dollar bills in the trash.

I've never been in this situation before, so I thought I'd ask what
you fellows do?

Should I just chuck them? Anything useful to be had online for $2 or
less? (can't imagine it, but hey, I've been wrong before)

Thanks!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 9:41 am
From: ediefaber@yahoo.com (elise d faber)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:31:50 -0500, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:

> I've got several virtual debit cards that have exactly $2 each left
>on them. They all expire at the end of the month. I printed them out
>for reference, and was going to chuck them in the trash, but stopped
>myself. I hate feeling like I'm throwing 8 dollar bills in the trash.
>
> I've never been in this situation before, so I thought I'd ask what
>you fellows do?
>
> Should I just chuck them? Anything useful to be had online for $2 or
>less? (can't imagine it, but hey, I've been wrong before)
>
> Thanks!

could you pay them as a credit to amazon or some other site you use a
lot [ebay?]? then you can use them the next time you buy something?

elise

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 10:11 am
From: "Dave"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:gfmtia$mtm$1@aioe.org...
> I've got several virtual debit cards that have exactly $2 each left on
> them. They all expire at the end of the month. I printed them out for
> reference, and was going to chuck them in the trash, but stopped myself.
> I hate feeling like I'm throwing 8 dollar bills in the trash.
>

Go rent a movie from redbox, and return it before 9PM the next day. Total
will be a buck, plus tax. -Dave

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Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 8:58 am
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TOPIC: Coinstar Offer (and Caveat)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d588469c33c799f3?hl=en
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Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 9:20 am
From: larry

Brian Elfert wrote:
> Evelyn Leeper <eleeper@optonline.net> writes:
>
>> So I got three rolls of quarters at the bank ($30) and dumped them in.
>> The total Coinstar registered was $29.61. I threw in two more quarters
>
> This seems pretty deliberate since it came up with a number not divisible
> by 25. I could see being off by 25 or 50 cents, but not 39 cents.
>
> Someone should find a lawyer hungry for a class action.

If the machine hadn't been adjusted or cleaned recently, it
won't properly determine the diameter of each coin. Damaged
coins will also detect wrong. Looks like it "detected" two
quarters as one penny and one dime in your collection.

Coin rolls from a bank can come from several sources, the
Fed or large bank coin vault, or a depositor. The coin
vaults use coin handling machines that 1. count, 2. measure
roll length, and 3. weight each roll and are very seldom
wrong. These rolls are wrapped with two turns of paper with
a rolled crimp at each end, or are shrink wrapped.

If they come from a depositor, good luck! These are usually
in the office supply paper tubes with finger crimped ends.
Most banks require the depositor account number written on
the roll to discourage "short" rolls, but a bank isn't going
to waste time checking. You might find a bank that has a
scale and will weigh a roll or two.

-larry / dallas

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TOPIC: Free Taco Bell Meal Cards ($50 Cards)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a8b6552ede7ea969?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 10:34 am
From: Wilma6116@gmail.com

On Nov 14, 10:14 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 9:41 am, Cheapo Groovo <c...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <4f677ebb-ccd2-447d-a269-70d1f7afe923
> > @a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, blondiewri...@gmail.com says...> Free Taco Bell Meal Cards ($50 Cards)
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> > >http://tinyurl.com/5nnqgm
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> > Requires you make purchases first.
> > ----------------------------------http://cheapogroovo.vox.com
>
> Guess what they say is true then, no such thing as a "free lunch"? :p

Winner gets $50 worth of Taco Bell, second place gets $100 worth.

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TOPIC: Evading parking tickets
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Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 11:10 am
From: "DanG"

It is really sad you feel this way. YOU broke the law. YOU are
not carrying your fair share of the taxes everyone else pays (I
see license plate fees as a type of tax). And yet, you feel you
have the right to do it wrong and threaten damage and destruction
in retribution.

Really sad.
Probably symptomatic of one of the many things wrong in our
society.

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Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
dgriff237@7cox.net

"Bruce C. Miller" <bm3719@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a0f459eb-1968-48b9-8f00-e2e2da232afa@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 2:29 pm, Wilma6...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 10:35 am, "Bruce C. Miller" <bm3...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There is a difference between frugal and cheap. Get your cheap
>> ass in
>> gear, pay the ticket, register your car and become a
>> contributing part
>> of society
>
> I have zero shame in being cheap or a non-contributing member of
> society.
>
> I'll pay it, but I'll make a note to destroy some government
> property
> equal to around $80 in value sometime in the future to make up
> for it.
> It's only fair, after all.

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TOPIC: UGG 5854 Boots Classic Mini Save: 28% off $88.00
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Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 11:15 am
From: "go4ugg.com"

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TOPIC: Off topic somewhat XM SIRIUS merg
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 11:33 am
From: "Nicik Name"

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