Tuesday, January 27, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 9 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* Have you ever ate roadkill? - 11 messages, 9 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8270986512a793d6?hl=en
* Source (online?) for whole wheat flour - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/45b947567a2220f7?hl=en
* Free to find Your House Value! Help you to find your House Value and Prices -
3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a4bfd7bf4329f26c?hl=en
* ! Live Naked Pot smoking - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/18bab2e02d6b4287?hl=en
* What to do when laptop keys stop working? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d6266bc229b8004b?hl=en
* New Mountain Dew logo - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/15e95e9fd76aae55?hl=en
* WSJ: Yes, You Can Live With Less Plastic - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4a1f7f88656f37c1?hl=en
* Is it worth upgrading heat & insulation in Mid-Atlantic states? - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/16c00bae970d5c93?hl=en
* Boost Mobile: May have to try it - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/349d16161b538880?hl=en

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TOPIC: Have you ever ate roadkill?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8270986512a793d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 11:38 pm
From: zxcvbob


KevinS wrote:
> On Jan 26, 8:40�pm, "MarieD" <a...@123.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder why it would be illegal?
>
> Going back to my prosecutor days of 30 years ago,
> my state at the time (Washington) had a law which
> basically said that if you killed a deer while driving,
> the carcass belonged to the state, and the meat was supposed to be
> used to feed prisoners or others in
> state custody. Converting the carcass to your own
> use was punishable by fines and jail. I had first
> heard that from my grandfather, who was a state
> game officer. I don't know whether that is still the
> law.
>
> My memory of this is faint and I may be forgetting
> some of the details. Nor can I speak for other
> states.


Is the state gonna pay for the damage to my car? (actually, in some
states they used to)

Bob


== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 4:36 am
From: "Cornholio"


"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-269F80.21021126012009@news-wc.giganews.com...
> In article
> <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
>> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.
>
> That's not legal in most states tho'.


It is in Tn, and yes, I've eaten roadkill deer.
The shoulder she took the bumper with was almost like hamburger. We tossed
that. The rest was fine.

TFM®

== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:11 am
From: "James Silverton"


Cornholio wrote on Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:36:06 -0500:


> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-269F80.21021126012009@news-wc.giganews.com...
>> In article
>> <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroup
>> s.com>, James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over
>>> $1700 damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my
>>> freezer.
>>
>> That's not legal in most states tho'.

> It is in Tn, and yes, I've eaten roadkill deer.
> The shoulder she took the bumper with was almost like
> hamburger. We tossed that. The rest was fine.

Sounds like the Texas Aggie joke. How many Aggies does it take to eat an
armadillo? Three; one to do it and two to look each way on the road.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:12 am
From: clams_casino


MarieD wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-269F80.21021126012009@news-wc.giganews.com...
>
>> In article
>> <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
>>> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.
>>
>>
>> That's not legal in most states tho'.
>
>
> I wonder why it would be illegal?
>

Oddly, collecting road kill is illegal in most states.


== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:27 am
From: Dave Smith


KevinS wrote:
> On Jan 26, 8:40�pm, "MarieD" <a...@123.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder why it would be illegal?
>
> Going back to my prosecutor days of 30 years ago,
> my state at the time (Washington) had a law which
> basically said that if you killed a deer while driving,
> the carcass belonged to the state, and the meat was supposed to be
> used to feed prisoners or others in
> state custody. Converting the carcass to your own
> use was punishable by fines and jail. I had first
> heard that from my grandfather, who was a state
> game officer. I don't know whether that is still the
> law.
>
> My memory of this is faint and I may be forgetting
> some of the details. Nor can I speak for other
> states.

I knew a police officer who used to take home fresh deer kills. He was
patrolling a 20 mile stretch of highway with a good deer population.
People usually call in a deer collision to get the police report for
insurance, but even if they didn't, he was patrolling up and down that
stretch of road often enough to know when he had a fresh one.


== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:31 am
From: Dave Smith


KevinS wrote:
> On Jan 26, 9:03�pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a holdover from English law concerning
>> poachers.
>
> Maybe so, although intentionally driving one's car into
> good sized deers would have to be one of the dumber
> pastimes.

That is an expensive way to kill a deer. They can do a lot of damage to
a car.

I did have occasion to prosecute the oc-
> casional poacher. They tended not to be among the
> brighter or more ambitious people I have ever come
> across.

I had a sumer job in an alloy smelting plant while attending university.
There was a guy in there who didn't like the student summer workers, and
we never thought much of him because he was so vocal and incredibly
stupid. He got got poaching deer back in his home province. The natural
resouces people used to prop up dead deer in a field near a road, close
enough that the headlights would light up their eys. The poachers would
stop, get out and take a shot. This guy fell for it and got caught
..... twice.


== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 8:33 am
From: rosie


On Jan 26, 6:19�pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have. �After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.

Noty knowlingly, of course I am origionally from rural Indiana, and I
now live in Texas....

Rosie


== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 9:24 am
From: blake murphy


On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:31:38 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> KevinS wrote:
>> On Jan 26, 9:03�pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like a holdover from English law concerning
>>> poachers.
>>
>> Maybe so, although intentionally driving one's car into
>> good sized deers would have to be one of the dumber
>> pastimes.
>
> That is an expensive way to kill a deer. They can do a lot of damage to
> a car.
>
> I did have occasion to prosecute the oc-
>> casional poacher. They tended not to be among the
>> brighter or more ambitious people I have ever come
>> across.
>
> I had a sumer job in an alloy smelting plant while attending university.
> There was a guy in there who didn't like the student summer workers, and
> we never thought much of him because he was so vocal and incredibly
> stupid. He got got poaching deer back in his home province. The natural
> resouces people used to prop up dead deer in a field near a road, close
> enough that the headlights would light up their eys. The poachers would
> stop, get out and take a shot. This guy fell for it and got caught
> ..... twice.

<snort>

your pal,
bambi


== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 10:02 am
From: Omelet


In article <glluap$e3o$1@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article
> > <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
> >> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.
> >
> > That's not legal in most states tho'.
>
> Hey there, Om. How are you? You're the very same Om from LC?
>
> Marsha/Ohio

LC?

I'm doing well, thanks. :-)
I've not posted to the low carb list in ages, in case that's what you
meant, but how many "Omelets" are there posting on usenet? <g>
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous


== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 10:04 am
From: Omelet


In article <dfwfl.212876$2w3.122584@newsfe19.iad>,
"MarieD" <abc@123.com> wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-269F80.21021126012009@news-wc.giganews.com...
> > In article
> > <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
> >> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.
> >
> > That's not legal in most states tho'.
>
> I wonder why it would be illegal?

I know it's senseless, but it is in Texas. :-( Did not used to be if you
tagged it during hunting season but I'm told that that's changed.

Very wasteful.

Besides, it's a very expensive way to hunt deer. <g>

>
> We are almost out of deer meat. We got two this season and I love it, I
> never taste any "gamey" taste to it and cook it like any other meat.
> Spaghetti and deerballs is my favorite ;o)
> Marie

I still have a hindquarter that was gifted to me. I intend to make
sausage out of it.
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous


== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 10:27 am
From: "Virginia Tadrzynski"

"KevinS" <sheehyke@aol.com> wrote in message
news:5e425399-e553-43dd-b439-3b7a17f61dc3@f18g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 26, 8:40?pm, "MarieD" <a...@123.com> wrote:

> I wonder why it would be illegal?

Going back to my prosecutor days of 30 years ago,
my state at the time (Washington) had a law which
basically said that if you killed a deer while driving,
the carcass belonged to the state, and the meat was supposed to be
used to feed prisoners or others in
state custody. Converting the carcass to your own
use was punishable by fines and jail. I had first
heard that from my grandfather, who was a state
game officer. I don't know whether that is still the
law.

My memory of this is faint and I may be forgetting
some of the details. Nor can I speak for other
states.

Here in PA I believe you have to contact the authorities when you hit a deer
and kill it. An officer or county game officer comes out, verifies that you
hit it with a car and weren't poaching and you can claim it for food. I
have hit two deer, both damn near totalled the vehicle and both times the
buck walked away,
-ginny

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TOPIC: Source (online?) for whole wheat flour
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 4:15 am
From: "Kswck"

<dmusicant@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:a5csn4lbnigrjs243s0gmu637d311fa20f@4ax.com...
>I was reading reviews of bread machines at Amazon.com and someone said
> they bought 25 lb. bags of organic whole wheat flour for ~ $0.50/lb.
> net. The post was in 2006. I don't recall the name of the company, but
> going to their website I see that the cheapest organic whole wheat flour
> there now is ~$0.80/lb for 25 lb. and that's before shipping.
>
> I live in Berkeley CA and am looking for an economical source of whole
> wheat flour. I've been getting mine at the Berkeley Bowl, but the
> cheapest they have is $1.39/lb. What are some good sources?
>
> Dan
>
> PS I've been getting bread flour at Costco in 50 lb. bags, but I don't
> believe they sell whole wheat, at least economically.

http://www.americanspice.com/catalog/search.html?SEARCH=1&WORDS=wheat+flour&_ssess_=0e793364dc108eaebbe596c322c1f511


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 4:16 am
From: "Kswck"

<dmusicant@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:a5csn4lbnigrjs243s0gmu637d311fa20f@4ax.com...
>I was reading reviews of bread machines at Amazon.com and someone said
> they bought 25 lb. bags of organic whole wheat flour for ~ $0.50/lb.
> net. The post was in 2006. I don't recall the name of the company, but
> going to their website I see that the cheapest organic whole wheat flour
> there now is ~$0.80/lb for 25 lb. and that's before shipping.
>
> I live in Berkeley CA and am looking for an economical source of whole
> wheat flour. I've been getting mine at the Berkeley Bowl, but the
> cheapest they have is $1.39/lb. What are some good sources?
>
> Dan
>
> PS I've been getting bread flour at Costco in 50 lb. bags, but I don't
> believe they sell whole wheat, at least economically.


http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/flour-specialty.aspx?OVRAW=wheat%20flour&OVKEY=wheat%20flour&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=7110960513&OVKWID=77657445013


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 4:18 am
From: "Kswck"

<dmusicant@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:a5csn4lbnigrjs243s0gmu637d311fa20f@4ax.com...
>I was reading reviews of bread machines at Amazon.com and someone said
> they bought 25 lb. bags of organic whole wheat flour for ~ $0.50/lb.
> net. The post was in 2006. I don't recall the name of the company, but
> going to their website I see that the cheapest organic whole wheat flour
> there now is ~$0.80/lb for 25 lb. and that's before shipping.
>
> I live in Berkeley CA and am looking for an economical source of whole
> wheat flour. I've been getting mine at the Berkeley Bowl, but the
> cheapest they have is $1.39/lb. What are some good sources?
>
> Dan
>
> PS I've been getting bread flour at Costco in 50 lb. bags, but I don't
> believe they sell whole wheat, at least economically.

Maybe you can make a deal with the local bakery?

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TOPIC: Free to find Your House Value! Help you to find your House Value and
Prices
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:00 am
From: george

Index the websites and search engines to help you to find the value of
your house. You don't need to contact the
realtor and appraiser . To know the value of your house just a click!
http://www.geocities.com/valuehouse/


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:18 am
From: clams_casino


george wrote:

>Index the websites and search engines
>
>

Isn't George an odd first name for someone posting in Taiwan?


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 9:41 am
From: "Rod Speed"


clams_casino wrote
> george wrote

>> Index the websites and search engines

> Isn't George an odd first name for someone posting in Taiwan?

I've seen odder. One fellow I knew from HongKong called himself Blunden Butt.

That was in the days before the net had even been invented, so I knew him in person and not in the biblical sense
either.

We always reconned he must have overdosed on Westerns or something.

Bugger, here he is
http://www.facebook.com/people/Blunden-Butt/610956908

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TOPIC: ! Live Naked Pot smoking
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/18bab2e02d6b4287?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 6:37 am
From: throat.yogart3@gmail.com


Get it http://secrets2protect.blogspot.com/ live webcams of naked
potsmoking hottest women on the net. Amazing token.

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TOPIC: What to do when laptop keys stop working?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 7:14 am
From: SMS


OhioGuy wrote:
> We have a Dell laptop that has several of the keys slowly becoming
> harder and harder to get them to register anything. It is really
> becoming a distraction. Eventually, I feel the keys will stop working
> entirely.
>
> I was wondering if anyone ese had ever dealt with this sort of issue,
> and what options there are to fix the problem? For instance, does
> anyone sell replacement keyboards for them?
>
> I'm hoping that this isn't some sort of issue where I have to decide
> between spending $250 to repair the laptop or buying a new one.
>
> Thanks!

I've replaced the keyboard in my Compaq laptop. Very simple to replace.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 7:17 am
From: Chris Hill


On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:07:47 -0500, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:

> We have a Dell laptop that has several of the keys slowly becoming
>harder and harder to get them to register anything. It is really
>becoming a distraction. Eventually, I feel the keys will stop working
>entirely.
>
> I was wondering if anyone ese had ever dealt with this sort of issue,
>and what options there are to fix the problem? For instance, does
>anyone sell replacement keyboards for them?
>
> I'm hoping that this isn't some sort of issue where I have to decide
>between spending $250 to repair the laptop or buying a new one.
>


Just use an external keyboard. One day keys on the aging laptop
keyboard will likely start firing of their own accord, then it is time
to either repair it, or more likely replace it.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 7:19 am
From: SMS


OhioGuy wrote:
> We have a Dell laptop that has several of the keys slowly becoming
> harder and harder to get them to register anything. It is really
> becoming a distraction. Eventually, I feel the keys will stop working
> entirely.
>
> I was wondering if anyone ese had ever dealt with this sort of issue,
> and what options there are to fix the problem? For instance, does
> anyone sell replacement keyboards for them?
>
> I'm hoping that this isn't some sort of issue where I have to decide
> between spending $250 to repair the laptop or buying a new one.
>
> Thanks!

You can look here: "http://www.laptoppartsworld.com/components/" among
many places. You need to find how hard it is to replace the keyboard on
your model. Generally you can replace the keyboard from the top, with no
disassembly of the whole laptop required.

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TOPIC: New Mountain Dew logo
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/15e95e9fd76aae55?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 7:47 am
From: im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net


Jamie wrote:
> It's now printed on the cans as Mtn Dew. They thought they had to
> abbreviate it. I wrote about this on my blogspot page:
>
>
> What do you think?

I think you're playing with yourself to drive traffic to your blog.

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TOPIC: WSJ: Yes, You Can Live With Less Plastic
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 10:04 am
From: SMS


Dave Garland wrote:
> h wrote:
>> That said, anyone who doesn't pay off their credit card every month is
>> really hurting themselves. Except...I did use a card with a "1.99% for the
>> life of the balance" once when I was expanding my office. I got the card,
>> wrote myself a check for $25,000, paid the $180 fee and took 2 years to pay
>> it off. That was WAAAY cheaper and easier than taking out a home equity loan
>> to finish the addition. The trick was to just never use the card again until
>> the full amount was paid off.
>
> The deal I took was 0% for the life of the balance. The gotcha was,
> you need to make at least one purchase per month with the card, and
> payments go toward the portion of the balance that's at the lowest
> interest (0% vs 17% on purchases). I faithfully buy $0.75 of gasoline
> on that card every month.

Discover had a deal like that a few years ago, which included no-fee
balance transfers. So I took $30K out of my HELOC then let Discover pay
off the HELOC, and I put the $30K into 5% CDs. I have to make two $1
purchases per month at the regular interest rate to keep the 0% on the
rest. $1 out of the gas pump twice a month takes care of that.

Years ago I had a credit union Visa card that let you do no-fee balance
transfers and they gave you "points" (for airline tickets) on these
transfers. That didn't last too long before they realized what people
were doing.

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TOPIC: Is it worth upgrading heat & insulation in Mid-Atlantic states?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 10:57 am
From: James


My furnace is probably under 60% efficiency but it don't really get
that cold here. Any one have first hand experience in savings after
replacing an old furnace with a high-efficieny furnace?

Also what did you save if you bought expensive replacement windows?

I've more than double the insulation in the attic but can't really
tell how much I'm saving because of varying temperatures and fuel
costs. It had about 4" of rock wool.

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TOPIC: Boost Mobile: May have to try it
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 27 2009 11:03 am
From: me@privacy.net


Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:

>me@privacy.net wrote in news:oq4sn4ttk8ta30n4i0hng0g5vklac3rl8e@4ax.com:
>
>> http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2009/01/15/14921
>
>Intresting.
>Now, does that run on the old Nextel system, or the Sprint CDMA
>system? If the latter, I may convert my Sprint phone over to
>Boost and save a few bucks a month.
>Note that these plans are good for talkaholics. If you don't
>use the phone too much, there are better pay by the minute
>plans that can save you even more.


Don't know as I'm not a phone
techie...just came across it on Clarks
web page


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