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TOPIC: What to do when laptop keys stop working?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d6266bc229b8004b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 5:03 pm
From: Marsha

OhioGuy wrote:
> We have a Dell laptop that has several of the keys slowly becoming
> harder and harder to get them to register anything. It is really
> becoming a distraction. Eventually, I feel the keys will stop working
> entirely.
>
> I was wondering if anyone ese had ever dealt with this sort of issue,
> and what options there are to fix the problem? For instance, does
> anyone sell replacement keyboards for them?
>
> I'm hoping that this isn't some sort of issue where I have to decide
> between spending $250 to repair the laptop or buying a new one.
>
> Thanks!

One thing you should never do, as a preventative measure, is eat while
you're using the keyboard. Crumbs always mysteriously end up underneath
the keys.

Marsha/Ohio

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 5:14 pm
From: The Real Bev

Marsha wrote:

> OhioGuy wrote:
>> We have a Dell laptop that has several of the keys slowly becoming
>> harder and harder to get them to register anything. It is really
>> becoming a distraction. Eventually, I feel the keys will stop working
>> entirely.

You need to call the helpdroid and keep asking until you find someone who can
answer. It's scary using brute force when you're not sure you're supposed to.

>> I was wondering if anyone ese had ever dealt with this sort of issue,
>> and what options there are to fix the problem? For instance, does
>> anyone sell replacement keyboards for them?
>>
>> I'm hoping that this isn't some sort of issue where I have to decide
>> between spending $250 to repair the laptop or buying a new one.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> One thing you should never do, as a preventative measure, is eat while
> you're using the keyboard. Crumbs always mysteriously end up underneath
> the keys.

Fortunately it's harmless with the Model M. The springs are mounted in a
silo-like tube that the keytop fits over, kind of like the top of a mushroom
with the stem stuck on a pencil, so the crud just falls to the platform in which
all the little silos are molded. I was careful to cover up the top of the silo
with a fingertip when I blew the final bits of crud out. I suspect that I could
even spill liquid into it with no harm done. No, I'm not going to try.

--
Cheers, Bev
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ruined a lot of potentially good manual laborers." -- Bob Hunt

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 5:57 pm
From: Jay

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in

> I'd guess that touch typists wouldn't find them too valuable.
> I've seen a demo at the local Best Buy but I haven't been
> tempted to try it. Probably should. I looked all over for a
> flexible keyboard, but couldn't find one.

Do you have 'Staples' in your area? If so, a few months ago, they
did have flex keyboards. At that time they were on sale. $9.99
IIRC

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 6:13 pm
From: The Real Bev

Jay wrote:

> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
>
>> I'd guess that touch typists wouldn't find them too valuable.
>> I've seen a demo at the local Best Buy but I haven't been
>> tempted to try it. Probably should. I looked all over for a
>> flexible keyboard, but couldn't find one.
>
> Do you have 'Staples' in your area? If so, a few months ago, they
> did have flex keyboards. At that time they were on sale. $9.99
> IIRC

These people have several. I bought my SDHC card from them and am happy.
Delivery took about a week.
<http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=flexible+keyboard&_sacat=See-All-Categories>

--
Cheers,
Bev
===================================================
"I love deadlines... especially the whooshing sound
they make as they go by." -Douglas Adams

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 10:19 pm
From: "Nicik Name"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:glj9f9$2lni$1@news.ett.com.ua...
> We have a Dell laptop that has several of the keys slowly becoming
> harder and harder to get them to register anything. It is really becoming
> a distraction. Eventually, I feel the keys will stop working entirely.
>
> I was wondering if anyone ese had ever dealt with this sort of issue,
> and what options there are to fix the problem? For instance, does anyone
> sell replacement keyboards for them?
>
> I'm hoping that this isn't some sort of issue where I have to decide
> between spending $250 to repair the laptop or buying a new one.
>
> Thanks!
WD40

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TOPIC: Contraceptives - bad for the economy! (Sarcasm)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5155d02987e6eee7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 5:24 pm
From: The Real Bev

Rod Speed wrote:

> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> ... Don't we
>> have enough children languishing in foster care already?
>
> Nope, if we did, we wouldnt see so many buying kids from 3rd world countrys.

Yes, but those are NEW children and the adopting parents can feel good because
they're giving a NEW life to this NEW little child from far away. The locals
are just partially-broken ghetto kids and probably have diseases, deformities
and lice.

>> Shouldn't we be working on how to keep the country going without a
>> young "slave" population - maybe through greater personal frugality?

Apparently they don't make very good slaves...

> Doesnt work, you end up with no one paying taxes and all the geriatrics starving.
>
>> http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/01/23/contraceptives-not-the-kind-of-stimulus-boehner-can-believe-in/
>
>> First paragraphs:
>
>> Barack Obama's $825 billion plan to boost the recession-bound U.S.
>> economy has some elements that, well, aren't the sort of stimulus that
>> House Minority Leader John Boehner says he can believe in.
>
>> "I'm concerned about the size of the package, and I'm concerned about
>> some of the spending that's in there," Boehner complained Friday after
>> a meeting at White House.
>
>> "How can you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives?
>> How does that stimulate the economy?"
>
> Someone has to make them, stupid.

It's mind-boggling that there's an official anti-contraceptive ideology not
related to the Catholic church. Surely preventing the birth of unwanted
children is a GOOD thing, no matter whose children they are. I regard it as an
investment, not an expense.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 5:32 pm
From: Marsha

The Real Bev wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> ... Don't we
>>> have enough children languishing in foster care already?
>>
>> Nope, if we did, we wouldnt see so many buying kids from 3rd world
>> countrys.
>
> Yes, but those are NEW children and the adopting parents can feel good
> because they're giving a NEW life to this NEW little child from far
> away. The locals are just partially-broken ghetto kids and probably
> have diseases, deformities and lice.
>

And, NEW children are all the rage with celebrities.

Marsha/Ohio

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TOPIC: New Mountain Dew logo
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/15e95e9fd76aae55?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 6:05 pm
From: Jamie

It's now printed on the cans as Mtn Dew. They thought they had to
abbreviate it. I wrote about this on my blogspot page:
http://jannghi.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-mtn-dew-logo.html

What do you think?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 8:23 pm
From: The Real Bev

Jamie wrote:

> It's now printed on the cans as Mtn Dew. They thought they had to
> abbreviate it. I wrote about this on my blogspot page:
> http://jannghi.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-mtn-dew-logo.html
>
> What do you think?

That you have too much time on your hands.

--
Cheers,
Bev
*************************************************
Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench.

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TOPIC: Computer crash
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8bc95c99ebdef045?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 6:53 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <gllm56$non$3@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
>Gary Heston wrote:
>> I routinely use the UBCD at work, where I have to do things like making
>> a system boot two different versions of Linux in addition to Windows XP.
>> I can manipulate partitions easily with it.

>You're speaking Greek.

Not Greek, Geek. What I do with workstations is set them up so that when
you're booting them up, you can select which operating system you want to
start. Some of our developers have to use different versions of Linux,
depending upon what they're working on. So, I may have it set up to
allow selecting Windows XP, RedHat 5.1, or Fedora 9. One of my systems
at home will allow Windows 98SE, Windows 2000 Pro, or Fedora 9.

In theory, this can be extended to many different operating systems, but
it can get cumbersome to maintain.

>> Also good for sanitizing an old drive before it's discarded or reused.

>Okay, I know what that is.

Good, do it before discarding hardware. DBAN works well, and is on the
UBCD.

>> If you haven't done a backup recently, now is the time to do one.

>Backups of the important stuff are now on the schedule. Thanks a lot
>for your help.

Glad to. Not just a job, but a hobby, too. :-)

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:37 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <glllue$non$2@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
>I'm leaning heavily towards overheat. I noticed that one side of the
>tower was flush against the desk, blocking the vents on that side. And,
>when it finally did boot up, I had left it set for a good half hour.
[ ... ]

You're not alone, apparently:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/254108-28-dell-inspiron-running

It might be time to blow dust out of your system; they tend to collect
it over time.

Look at the software that came with your system; it may have a monitoring
program you can run which will show you what the temperatures are in
your system. If not, look for MotherBoard Monitor or something similar
to track what's going on.

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:52 pm
From: Marsha

Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <glllue$non$2@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
> [ ... ]
>> I'm leaning heavily towards overheat. I noticed that one side of the
>> tower was flush against the desk, blocking the vents on that side. And,
>> when it finally did boot up, I had left it set for a good half hour.
> [ ... ]
>
> You're not alone, apparently:
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/254108-28-dell-inspiron-running
>
> It might be time to blow dust out of your system; they tend to collect
> it over time.
>
> Look at the software that came with your system; it may have a monitoring
> program you can run which will show you what the temperatures are in
> your system. If not, look for MotherBoard Monitor or something similar
> to track what's going on.
>
>
> Gary
>

Great, another tidbit of info to file away! I vacuum what seems like
massive amounts of dog hair on a regular basis, and by now there's
probably a wad inside the tower. Next on the to-do list....

Marsha/Ohio

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 9:26 pm
From: Dave Garland

Marsha wrote:

> Great, another tidbit of info to file away! I vacuum what seems like
> massive amounts of dog hair on a regular basis, and by now there's
> probably a wad inside the tower. Next on the to-do list....
>

Then you definitely need to open the tower up and blow it out with
canned air. Everywhere, but especially around the cpu fan and
heatsink (big cooling fins), and stick the nozzle in the vent slots of
the power supply (metal box where the power cord plugs in). Computers
attract dust/hair because they are sucking air in, and dust bunnies
will make them overheat.

Dave

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TOPIC: Have you ever ate roadkill?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:02 pm
From: Omelet

In article
<365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.

That's not legal in most states tho'.
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:16 pm
From: Marsha

Omelet wrote:
> In article
> <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
>> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.
>
> That's not legal in most states tho'.

Hey there, Om. How are you? You're the very same Om from LC?

Marsha/Ohio

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:30 pm
From: Dan Musicant (man@privacy.net)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:19:57 -0800 (PST), James <j0069bond@hotmail.com>
wrote:

:I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
:damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.

Not to my knowledge.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 8:40 pm
From: "MarieD"

"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-269F80.21021126012009@news-wc.giganews.com...
> In article
> <365ce340-9bc1-4c93-8674-ccb59ce6fb08@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have. After the buck ran into my new compact car and did over $1700
>> damage, you bet your deer he ended up in my freezer.
>
> That's not legal in most states tho'.

I wonder why it would be illegal?

We are almost out of deer meat. We got two this season and I love it, I
never taste any "gamey" taste to it and cook it like any other meat.
Spaghetti and deerballs is my favorite ;o)
Marie

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 9:00 pm
From: KevinS

On Jan 26, 8:40�pm, "MarieD" <a...@123.com> wrote:

> I wonder why it would be illegal?

Going back to my prosecutor days of 30 years ago,
my state at the time (Washington) had a law which
basically said that if you killed a deer while driving,
the carcass belonged to the state, and the meat was supposed to be
used to feed prisoners or others in
state custody. Converting the carcass to your own
use was punishable by fines and jail. I had first
heard that from my grandfather, who was a state
game officer. I don't know whether that is still the
law.

My memory of this is faint and I may be forgetting
some of the details. Nor can I speak for other
states.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 9:03 pm
From: spope33@speedymail.org (Steve Pope)

KevinS <sheehyke@aol.com> wrote:

>Going back to my prosecutor days of 30 years ago,
>my state at the time (Washington) had a law which
>basically said that if you killed a deer while driving,
>the carcass belonged to the state, and the meat was supposed to be
>used to feed prisoners or others in
>state custody. Converting the carcass to your own
>use was punishable by fines and jail.

Sounds like a holdover from English law concerning poachers.
Obviously, the game belongs to the Crown, and if we made
an exception for accidental vehicle hits, the poacher types would
just drive around trying to run down deer.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 9:11 pm
From: KevinS

On Jan 26, 9:03�pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

> Sounds like a holdover from English law concerning
> poachers.

Maybe so, although intentionally driving one's car into
good sized deers would have to be one of the dumber
pastimes. I did have occasion to prosecute the oc-
casional poacher. They tended not to be among the
brighter or more ambitious people I have ever come
across.

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TOPIC: Boost Mobile: May have to try it
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/349d16161b538880?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:44 pm
From: Brian Elfert

Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> writes:

>Now, does that run on the old Nextel system, or the Sprint CDMA
>system? If the latter, I may convert my Sprint phone over to

Boost is still Nextel.

Boost has a new $50 unlimited plan, but the review I saw said it is awful
and the reviewer's wife went back to another phone before the 30 day
review period was up. The main complaint was dropped calls.

If Boost used a decent provider I would seriously consider this and drop
my VOIP home line all together.

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TOPIC: Source (online?) for whole wheat flour
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/45b947567a2220f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 10:02 pm
From: Tony Sivori

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:04:24 -0800, dmusicant wrote:

> I was reading reviews of bread machines at Amazon.com and someone said
> they bought 25 lb. bags of organic whole wheat flour for ~ $0.50/lb.
> net. The post was in 2006. I don't recall the name of the company, but
> going to their website I see that the cheapest organic whole wheat flour
> there now is ~$0.80/lb for 25 lb. and that's before shipping.

Good luck. I work in food manufacturing, and the company I work for buys
flour by the rail car loads. Which is how I happen to know that flour
costs have risen dramatically in the past year.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1374352/price_of_flour_is_rising_fast/index.html

If the above link wraps:

http://tinyurl.com/acgkbj

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

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TOPIC: Nazi t-shirt sold at Walmart
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b367e5bdf9d178bd?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 10:22 pm
From: The Real Bev

Sanity wrote:

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> ultimauw@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> http://consumerist.com/348776/walmart-nazi-tshirt-watch-week-62
>>>
>>> Just when you thought all of the Walmart tshirts bearing the exact
>>> replica of an infamous Nazi symbol were recalled,
>>
>> Why should they be?
>>
>>> or sold to a
>>> discount store and burned, a Walmart in Palmdale, California has them
>>> on sale for $3.00 a pop. 62 weeks after Walmart pledged to remove the
>>> shirts from its shelves, and 50 weeks after getting a letter from
>>> Congress demanding the shirts removal, they're still out there.
>>
>> Yeah, and?
>
> So you advocate selling an item that spews hate and intolerence?

No, but last I heard we were allowed to express unpopular opinions, which
include hate and intolerance. We're also allowed to be stupid, which is kind of
unfortunate.

Walmart is allowed to sell or not sell the t-shirts at their discretion.

You are not required to buy one and are allowed to express contempt for those
who do buy them, possibly to their faces if not in a threatening manner.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Why can't we all just get along and do things my way?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 10:24 pm
From: The Real Bev

Siskuwihane wrote:

> Money always speaks louder than morals.

You never heard "Put your money where your mouth is"? Some people buy Nazi
t-shirts, some people buy Pope soap-on-a-rope.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Why can't we all just get along and do things my way?

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