Thursday, February 19, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 3 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Composter - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/24a04d452c00fd25?hl=en
* It's all falling apart, isn't it? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/aaee75672b67549f?hl=en
* DTV converters - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e46bdc878c0fe848?hl=en

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TOPIC: Composter
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/24a04d452c00fd25?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 8:24 pm
From: Bob@nomail.com


On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:21:42 -0800 (PST), artsy6@gmail.com wrote:

>Do you have a favorite?

Just find a corner in back yard and pile it up and turn over with
pitchfork every week or so. I've been doing it for years and always
have lots of worms for fishing and everything will break down. The
best mix is 1/3 green mix such as kitchen waste and grass clippings
and 2/3 brown such as leaves, paper and such. I add in shredded
newspaper, paper towels, and anything else that will decompose.

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TOPIC: It's all falling apart, isn't it?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/aaee75672b67549f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 11:48 pm
From: "Jon von Leipzig@mayday.com"


On Feb 17, 9:27 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <nridnfofLq2D4wbUnZ2dnUVZ_tfin...@posted.visi>,
>  Dave Garland <dave.garl...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>
> > Harold Burton wrote:
> > > Right, before DemocRAT Johnson changed the rules.  Bet the
> > > Obama-lama-ding-dong appreciates that.
>
> > Wow, the intellectual level of Republicans continues to astound us.
> > No wonder they gave us a depression.
>
> But you couldn't actually dispute the accuracy of the claim.
>
> Snicker

Axshully, going back to at least JFK, they're all guilty of fudging
the numbers a bit.
The Really Big Fudger was Clinton, according to this dude, who's been
studying the
official gubmint stats for some years:

http://www.shadowstats.com/article/54

<snip>
The popularly followed unemployment rate was 5.5% in July 2004,
seasonally adjusted. That is known as U-3, one of six unemployment
rates published by the BLS. The broadest U-6 measure was 9.5%,
including discouraged and marginally attached workers.

Up until the Clinton administration, a discouraged worker was one who
was willing, able and ready to work but had given up looking because
there were no jobs to be had. The Clinton administration dismissed to
the non-reporting netherworld about five million discouraged workers
who had been so categorized for more than a year. As of July 2004, the
less-than-a-year discouraged workers total 504,000. Adding in the
netherworld takes the unemployment rate up to about 12.5%.

The Clinton administration also reduced monthly household sampling
from 60,000 to about 50,000, eliminating significant surveying in the
inner cities. Despite claims of corrective statistical adjustments,
reported unemployment among people of color declined sharply, and the
piggybacked poverty survey showed a remarkable reversal in decades of
worsening poverty trends.

------------------------------------

for a recent unemployment chart, scroll down

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

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TOPIC: DTV converters
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e46bdc878c0fe848?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 11:56 pm
From: "Jon von Leipzig@mayday.com"


On Feb 12, 4:29 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> Jeff <dont_bug...@all.uk> wrote in news:DaCdnaBBCsUQ-
> w_UnZ2dnUVZ_gOWn...@earthlink.com:
>
> >    Just got my DTV converter coupons and am search of a converter.
>
> >    Who has one they like?
>
> >    I'm going to try the Channel Master CM7000, but I have another coupon
> > to spend.
>
> >    I see that there are some that perform well, but don't hold up well
> > from the customer reviews. The dish network TR40 is one.
>
> >    How about the RCA?
>
> >    Jeff
>
> I went to Radio Shack and got the one they sell.  The same
> unit is available under a different name at Best Buy.
> It cost about $20.00 over the coupon price.  But it works
> great. I use the composite video outputs, not the RF.
>
> You are going to need a decent antenna as well. I am getting
> but with two bowties arranged a dual dipole.

Sounds like the one I got at RS. Just installed it, using the old
rabbit ears. Works great. Much improved pic, about double the number
of channels. Not much worth watching, tho. If it weren't for my
religion, (football) I probably wouldn't even own a TV.


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