Saturday, November 28, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 9 new messages in 6 topics - digest

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* The back lash begins P T Barnum would be jealous of this Hoax - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/23ad85f93e968a1d?hl=en
* Some silly liar : oh yea? - 4 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/95f8edd5aecceca0?hl=en
* The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley challenge - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8792a56dc980eb44?hl=en
* No gift giving this Christmas... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7570f95930f62ce6?hl=en
* Opposition to health care reform not about race. It's about stupidity - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/28531844efc1bbfe?hl=en
* Satellite Radio - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/499ddfb225813a35?hl=en

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TOPIC: The back lash begins P T Barnum would be jealous of this Hoax
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/23ad85f93e968a1d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 9:28 pm
From: "sr"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7nb6q1F3ku1diU1@mid.individual.net...
> sr wrote:
>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100018003/climategate-five-aussie-mps-lead-the-way-by-resigning-in-disgust-over-carbon-tax/
>
> Pity its a lie. Just because its in some shit rag doesnt make it gospel.
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> Global Warming is often called a hoax. I disagree because a hoax has a
> humorous intent to puncture pomposity. In science, such as with the
> Piltdown Man hoax, it was done to expose those with fervent but blind
> belief. The argument that global warming is due to humans, known as the
> anthropogenic global warming theory (AGW) is a (deliberate
> fraud). I can now make that statement without fear of
> contradiction because of a remarkable hacking of files that provided not
> just a smoking gun, but an entire battery ofmachine guns.
Someone hacked in to the files of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) based at
the University of East Anglia. A very large file (61 mb) was downloaded and
posted to the web. Phil Jones Director of the CRU has acknowledged the files
are theirs.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17102

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TOPIC: Some silly liar : oh yea?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/95f8edd5aecceca0?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 9:31 pm
From: "sr"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7nb6okF3km8arU1@mid.individual.net...
> sr wrote:
>
>> Climategate: five Aussie MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust over
>> carbon tax
>
> No they didnt, you pig ignorant clown.
http://www.friendsofscience.org/

SIX THINGS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE:
1. The earth is cooling. Click here.
2. The Sun causes climate change. Click here.
3. Al Gore was wrong about C02. Click here.
4. Violent weather isn't getting worse. Click here. Where are all those
Hurricanes? Hardly a one this year in the USA
5. It's been hotter. Click here.
6. Climate computer models are proven wrong. Click here.

This debate matters! The science matters.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 9:55 pm
From: "sr"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7nb6okF3km8arU1@mid.individual.net...
> sr wrote:
>
>> Climategate: five Aussie MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust over
>> carbon tax
>
> No they didnt, you pig ignorant clown.
>


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 10:25 pm
From: "sr"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7nb6okF3km8arU1@mid.individual.net...
> sr wrote:
>
>> Climategate: five Aussie MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust over
>> carbon tax
>
> No they didnt, you pig ignorant clown.
>freespeech619

MyFreePress : Article : Al Gore Flees in Panic from Chicago Book Signing:
http://bit.ly/67s3Hb #climategate #gore #wimp
the crowd was right after him, they took off in the car and the crowd was
pounding on the car as they drove off.
I would pay to see that on the news LOL


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 10:29 pm
From: "sr"

"sr" <solos42@uninets.net> wrote in message
news:3b1d3$4b10b5e1$ccb58410$28900@ispn.net...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7nb6okF3km8arU1@mid.individual.net...
==========
GlobalWarmHoax

WSJ.com - Opinion: Rigging a Climate 'Consensus' http://bit.ly/8rmNYE
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>>> Climategate: five Aussie MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust over
>>> carbon tax
>>
>> No they didnt, you pig ignorant clown.
> http://www.friendsofscience.org/
>
> SIX THINGS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE:
> 1. The earth is cooling. Click here.
> 2. The Sun causes climate change. Click here.
> 3. Al Gore was wrong about C02. Click here.
> 4. Violent weather isn't getting worse. Click here. Where are all
> those Hurricanes? Hardly a one this year in the USA
> 5. It's been hotter. Click here.
> 6. Climate computer models are proven wrong. Click here.
>
> This debate matters! The science matters.
>
>
>

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TOPIC: The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley challenge
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8792a56dc980eb44?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 9:46 pm
From: "sr"


Got some time to kill, McCain is taken to task

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/an_open_letter_from_the_viscou_1.html
Really impressive, speaker

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TOPIC: No gift giving this Christmas...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7570f95930f62ce6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 9:53 pm
From: "h"

"Rick Merrill" <Rick0.merrill@gmail.spamless.com> wrote in message
news:hepdlq$1ti$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>h wrote:
>> "frater mus" <fratermus@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hem49n$res$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Gregory wrote:
>>>
>>>> people? "Science" is just a different religion that also requires
>>>> believing in something that you cannot see.
>>> Or, to put it a different and reality-based way, believing in something
>>> you can test, predict, and replicate.
>>>
>>
>> Yup. Reality rules.
>
> Did you ever read Castaneda's "A Separate Reality"?

No...not a big fan of psychotropics or their users. However, Carlos did
leave a lot of interesting Confucius-esque quotes behind.

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TOPIC: Opposition to health care reform not about race. It's about stupidity
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/28531844efc1bbfe?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 10:20 pm
From: Michael Coburn


On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:18:57 -0800, freeisbest wrote:

> On Nov 27, 8:09 pm, Michael Coburn <mik...@verizon.net> wrote: -snip-
> > The secret to decent representation is much smaller and regularly
> > shaped electoral districts in which the representative is more
> > accountable to the people and much less dependent on the party money
> > dispensers.
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> That seems quite plausible. Ok, we see the promised land, or at
> least one version of it. Any idea how to get there from here?

There are two ways:

The courts: http://www.apportionment.us/blog.html

And of course there is the _FACT_ that the membership of the House and
the shape and size of electoral districts is totally up to the party in
power right now. The only _limitation_ to what the Democratic party can
do about proper representation is that districts cannot be smaller than
30 thousand. There are good and valid rationale for expanding the House
and increasing the level of representation. The Democratic party should
be pressed to hold true to its namesake. We should be asking the
Democrats why they hate democracy.

http://greatervoice.org/display/AllCharts.php

Click on a chart ad see the explanation behind it.


See also: http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson

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TOPIC: Satellite Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/499ddfb225813a35?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 10:42 pm
From: "sr"

"clams_casino" <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
news:YoYPm.20984$gd1.11628@newsfe05.iad...
> Anyone familiar with satellite radio. I've been reading Sirius has a 50
> channel a la carte subscription for $7/mo. They appear to have two
> units (Starmate - 5 @ $130 and Stratus 6 @ $70) that can be used both at
> home and in the car with this a la carte subscription.
>
> Are they easy to hook up? Is the reception acceptable while driving (do
> trees, buildings, etc significantly interrupt the reception)? How
> difficult are they to switch between home and the car? Is an extra,
> special outdoor antenna needed for home use? Any feel for why one unit is
> twice the price of the other (what are the useful options)?
=====
I can only ans one question I have sirius for the home. I put the antenna
up, must be unobstructed.
I used a cheap radio about 7 dollar from Walmart as the receiver. I just
turn the Sat. reciever, sirius, in my case, just sit that near the antenna
of the radio, find the channel on the radio where the sound is transmitted.
It is the best thing I have in the house I like this better than the TV.
In fact I seldom turn the TV on except for some PBS programs in the evening.
Now, if you have a bunch of
money I would get it for the car and house. It is worth it for the old time
radio shows, alone. All kinds of music, all kinds of talk radio and sports.
you need an antenna for the car and seperate one for the house, the set up
is different. I never knew anything about the system, I had no problem at
all. There will be interruptions, you can handle it, I'm sure. 50 up
front to get service, 12 a month, cheap enough because it is my main
entertainment. or was, until i got the laptop Radio Shack can educate you,
or whatever business you like on further options, I'm sure


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