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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 11:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Gordon wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> me@privacy.net wrote:
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> I live in an area with NO TV SIGNAL

>>>> You sure that that is permanent with the change to digital TV ?

>>> My current apartment is down in a "hole" and id have to
>>> put a tower up with antenna on it which I'm not
>>> doing...so in essence I have no signal

>> You sure no one gets digital TV in your area without a tower ?

>> I find that VERY hard to believe.

>> Digital TV is very different to analog TV.

> The RF signal still propagates the same way.

Wrong, you dont get ghosts for starters.

And it works a lot better in weak signal areas too.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 10:41 pm
From: Gordon

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in news:8ba2ghF5b0U1
@mid.individual.net:

>>> Digital TV is very different to analog TV.
>
>> The RF signal still propagates the same way.
>
> Wrong, you dont get ghosts for starters.
>
> And it works a lot better in weak signal areas too.

The RF still propagates the same way. It doesn't
make any difference that there is digital information
modulated onto the carrier. RF is still RF. It behaves
the same regardless of what type of information it
is carying.

Oh, about the ghosts. ATSC tuners and decoders have
circuits that cancel them. You don't see them because
they have been processed out, not because they don't
exist.

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 12:08 am
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:10:54 -0700 (PDT), slide trombone
<boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Jul 27, 12:23 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:49:17 -0700 (PDT), Curt <obadiahly...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jul 26, 1:20 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
>> >> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
>> >> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
>> >> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
>> >> Gunner Asch
>>
>> >Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it
>> >is true that most stupid people are conservative.
>> >John Stuart Mill
>>
>> >Curt
>>
>> You do know that the terms "liberal/conservative" were reversed in the
>> early 20th century, are you not?
>
>No he doesn't know. A college educated person no doubt taught him
>incorrectly.

Pity. No wonder he appears to be a dunce.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:32 am
From: Jeff M

On 7/28/2010 1:10 AM, slide trombone wrote:
> On Jul 27, 12:23 am, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:49:17 -0700 (PDT), Curt<obadiahly...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 1:20 pm, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
>>>> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
>>>> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
>>>> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
>>>> Gunner Asch
>>
>>> Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it
>>> is true that most stupid people are conservative.
>>> John Stuart Mill
>>
>>> Curt
>>
>> You do know that the terms "liberal/conservative" were reversed in the
>> early 20th century, are you not?
>
> No he doesn't know. A college educated person no doubt taught him
> incorrectly.

Nope, it's a lie, and an effort by conservatives to deny their
ideological heritage and claim credit for that which they opposed, much
like all the conservatives claiming to "defend" Medicare in the
healthcare deform debate, even though they opposed it from it's inception.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 4:31 pm
From: "Wayne"

"slide trombone" <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 27, 12:23 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:49:17 -0700 (PDT), Curt <obadiahly...@gmail.com>

I've obviously missed something since I've come to this party a bit late.
What the Fark is the Nation of Aztlan? Is this some front for a resurgence
of Peronism? It can't be associated with Francisco Franco - he is still dead
or at least was last anyone checked. Emiliano Zapata did not die for your
sins nor did Michael Collins even though they met similar ends half a world
away from each other. So what the hell is this?

Now where is that trunk with my Confederate money and bonds? It is beginning
to sound like I may need it.

MWF
AH52
The Road Goes On Forever

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 4:42 pm
From: Bert Hyman

In news:4c50bdd1$0$8225$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com "Wayne"
<dual45s@Tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> I've obviously missed something since I've come to this party a bit
> late. What the Fark is the Nation of Aztlan?

http://www.aztlan.net/
http://www.adl.org/learn/Aztlan/

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 6:17 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:28 -0400, "Wayne" <dual45s@Tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>"slide trombone" <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:d2fb5be8-2811-4670-9bbc-3d88a05c7340@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 27, 12:23 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:49:17 -0700 (PDT), Curt <obadiahly...@gmail.com>
>
>I've obviously missed something since I've come to this party a bit late.
>What the Fark is the Nation of Aztlan? Is this some front for a resurgence
>of Peronism? It can't be associated with Francisco Franco - he is still dead
>or at least was last anyone checked. Emiliano Zapata did not die for your
>sins nor did Michael Collins even though they met similar ends half a world
>away from each other. So what the hell is this?
>
>Now where is that trunk with my Confederate money and bonds? It is beginning
>to sound like I may need it.

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

http://www.adl.org/learn/Aztlan/nation.asp

http://www.illegalaliens.us/aztlan.htm

Just a few links to brighten up your day.

Gunner, moving ammo to more usable locations.
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 3:22 am
From: Owain

On 27 July, 18:06, "Spamlet" wrote:
> Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's World.
> Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on.

* The Breathalyser (1967)
* The ATM (1969)
* The pocket calculator (1971)
* The digital watch (1972)
* Teletext (Ceefax) (1975)
* The personal stereo (1980)
* The compact disc and player (1981)
* The camcorder (1981)
* Barcode reader (1983)
* Radio Automation, pioneered on Pirate FM 102 (1992)
* Clockwork radio (1993) (wikipedia)

Admittedly we are still waiting for the car that folds up into a
suitcase

Owain

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 10:30 am
From: Michaelangelo

Owain burst on the scene, and said:
> On 27 July, 18:06, "Spamlet" wrote:
>> Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's
>> World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on.
>
> * The Breathalyser (1967)
> * The ATM (1969)
> * The pocket calculator (1971)
> * The digital watch (1972)
> * Teletext (Ceefax) (1975)
> * The personal stereo (1980)
> * The compact disc and player (1981)
> * The camcorder (1981)
> * Barcode reader (1983)
> * Radio Automation, pioneered on Pirate FM 102 (1992)
> * Clockwork radio (1993) (wikipedia)

Makes you wonder how they kept TW going for so long! :)

--
Michaelangelo
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Self-catering, holiday accommodation in the Scottish Highlands - for
disabled people:
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== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 3:52 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 07/28/10 03:22, Owain wrote:

> On 27 July, 18:06, "Spamlet" wrote:
>> Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's World.
>> Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on.
>
> * The Breathalyser (1967)
> * The ATM (1969)
> * The pocket calculator (1971)

Electronic calculator, roughly the size of an adding machine, came out
much earlier. Nixie tubes.

> * The digital watch (1972)

Pulsars -- red LEDs of some sortg -- came out in the early 60s. Expensive.

> * Teletext (Ceefax) (1975)
> * The personal stereo (1980)
> * The compact disc and player (1981)
> * The camcorder (1981)
> * Barcode reader (1983)
> * Radio Automation, pioneered on Pirate FM 102 (1992)
> * Clockwork radio (1993) (wikipedia)
>
> Admittedly we are still waiting for the car that folds up into a
> suitcase

...and flies.

--
Cheers,
Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
-- Lionel

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 5:39 pm
From: "234" <234@45.com>

The Real Bev wrote:
> On 07/28/10 03:22, Owain wrote:
>
>> On 27 July, 18:06, "Spamlet" wrote:
>>> Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's
>>> World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on.
>>
>> * The Breathalyser (1967)
>> * The ATM (1969)
>> * The pocket calculator (1971)

> Electronic calculator, roughly the size of an adding machine, came out
> much earlier. Nixie tubes.

Nope, not that much earlier.

>> * The digital watch (1972)

> Pulsars -- red LEDs of some sortg -- came out in the early 60s.

Nope, later than that.

> Expensive.

>> * Teletext (Ceefax) (1975)
>> * The personal stereo (1980)
>> * The compact disc and player (1981)
>> * The camcorder (1981)
>> * Barcode reader (1983)
>> * Radio Automation, pioneered on Pirate FM 102 (1992)
>> * Clockwork radio (1993) (wikipedia)
>>
>> Admittedly we are still waiting for the car that folds up into a suitcase

> ...and flies.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 8:58 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 07/28/10 17:39, 234 wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 07/28/10 03:22, Owain wrote:
>>> On 27 July, 18:06, "Spamlet" wrote:
>>>> Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's
>>>> World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on.
>>>
>>> * The Breathalyser (1967)
>>> * The ATM (1969)
>>> * The pocket calculator (1971)
>
>> Electronic calculator, roughly the size of an adding machine, came out
>> much earlier. Nixie tubes.
>
> Nope, not that much earlier.

Yeah it was. We may still have it :-(

>>> * The digital watch (1972)
>
>> Pulsars -- red LEDs of some sort -- came out in the early 60s.
>
> Nope, later than that.

Nope yourself. Well, maybe they took that long to hit Oz, but I
remember being at a gas station in Bakersfield and asking a guy to push
the button on his Pulsar. This is before our first kid was born in
1964. We also acquired a stray calico kitten there, which we gave to my
mother-in-law. She was an exceptionally good cat, and now Bakersfield
cats have assumed a position of superiority in our family.

Gotta add 234 to my killfile, Rod. Sorry, but you earned it. The brain
inside isn't worth the trouble of scraping off the crap outside.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"You can make a signature quote seem authoritative by
attributing it to a famous person." --- Sun Tzu

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 9:30 pm
From: Matty F

On Jul 29, 3:58 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/28/10 17:39, 234 wrote:
>
> > The Real Bev wrote:

> >>> * The pocket calculator (1971)
>
> >> Electronic calculator, roughly the size of an adding machine, came out
> >> much earlier. Nixie tubes.
>
> > Nope, not that much earlier.
>
> Yeah it was. We may still have it :-(

I used an electronic calculator with Nixie tubes in 1962 at
University.
Quite possbly this model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumlock_ANITA_calculator

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:32 pm
From: Mike Barnes

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>:
>On 07/28/10 03:22, Owain wrote:
>> * The digital watch (1972)
>
>Pulsars -- red LEDs of some sortg -- came out in the early 60s.

Are you sure? Wikipedia says:

In the spring of 1972, the first Pulsar watch was marketed by The
Hamilton Watch Co. [...] With an 18-karat gold case, the world's
first all-electronic digital watch was also the first to use a
digital display — created with LEDs.

--
Mike Barnes

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 7:50 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jul 28, 12:56 am, "5621 Dead, 754 since 1/20/09"
<dea...@deadduz.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:42:21 -0500, Michael Dobony wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:31:38 -0400, homey wrote:
>
> >> On 7/27/2010 10:54 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> >> Probably a good way to get your rapture ticket revoked.
>
> > Based on what scripture.
>
> Well, there's a bit in Leviticus where if a priest is ascending the steps
> to make the sacrifice of the fatted calf, and his testicles become
> visible to the congregents, he is to be put to death.
>
> I'm not sure that covers one-cheek sneaks into the pew pillow, though.

Not sure whether God will take that as accident or that you give a
fart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5-59PI4kOs

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 8:57 am
From: Jack

Man who fart in church sit in own pew.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 10:00 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jul 28, 12:20 pm, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> how am i discouraging people who want to improve the world? or do you
> just make kelseys as a matter of habit?

Listen, if you go and fart under the tree, the tree absorbs the gases,
so that's an improvement in itself. Thus Sundays are better spent on a
hammock than in church.

And nobody gives a fart.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 10:49 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jul 28, 1:18 pm, "5621 Dead, 754 since 1/20/098" <dead@dead> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:01:02 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 28, 12:20 pm, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> how am i discouraging people who want to improve the world? or do you
> >> just make kelseys as a matter of habit?
>
> >Listen, if you go and fart under the tree, the tree absorbs the gases,
> >so that's an improvement in itself. Thus Sundays are better spent on a
> >hammock than in church.
>
> >And nobody gives a fart.
>
> I don't think most trees are real keen on methane, nitrogen and
> hydrogen sulphide.

So it may actually kill it?

I have a Peace Lilly at home and she's still alive!

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 10:50 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

So it may actually kill it?

I have a Peace Lilly at home and she's still alive!

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 6:56 pm
From: "Janie"

"Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Man who fart in church sit in own pew.
LOL!

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:00 am
From: tripletask@gmail..com

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:10:37 -0400, No Surrender@never.net wrote:

>AN E-MAIL FROM A FRIEND
>
>HEAD: What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
>I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament"- 10/25/07.
>
>I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "illegal aliens pay
>rent, buy groceries, buy clothes. What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?"
>
> Hummm, I thought, what would happen, so I did my due diligence, buried my nose as a reporter into the FACTS I found below.
>It's a good question it deserves an honest answer. Over 80% of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration
>stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers I found may surprise you!
>
>In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on
>overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested.
>Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.
>
>In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandchilds would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico.
>
> That would save Colorado an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling,
>medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
>
>Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local
>citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other
>crimes by illegals.
>
>Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% dropout/flunk rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41
>different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our grid locked cities in Colorado. Denver's 4%
>unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.
>
>In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.
>In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and
>more crime-free experience.
>
>If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal
>American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working off the
>books. That would result in an additional $401 Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local,
>state and city coffers.
>
>No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 100
>languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million
>illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.
>
>We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13
>gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.
>
>In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for
>ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!
>
>Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and
>driving American deaths by illegal aliens!
>
>America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the
>aliens' home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America 's
>economy which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.
>
>$8.7 trillion debt.
>
>At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86
>hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because
>illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.
>
>Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our
>borders.
>
>Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the
>'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our greenhouse gases.
>Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego,
>California in what the New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay
>and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage,
>clean water, streets, roads, electricity, or any kind of sanitation.
>
>The New York Times reported them to be America's new 'Third World' inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current
>growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's
>sickening beyond anything you can imagine.)
>
>By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico. We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
>countries and/or make a better life in Mexico We already invite a million people into our country legally more than all other
>countries combined annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing
>lawlessness at every level in our nation. It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of
>life.
>
>Interesting Statistics!
>
>Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are
>read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:
>1. $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens.(that's Billion with a 'B') -
>http://tinyurl.com/zob77
>2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for
>illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>3. $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they
>still cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>5. $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor
>babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>6. $3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. That's $1.2 Billion a
>year.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>7. 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>8. $190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. -
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
>9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens.
>In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
>11. During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500
>illegal aliens from other terrorist countries Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern terrorists. Millions of pounds of
>drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, crack, Guns, and marijuana crossed into the U.S.from the southern border.
>http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
>12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion,
>or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period and nbsp;
>-http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute./ .. org/publications.php?b=deportation
>13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin, to their families and
>friends. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
>14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United
>States! http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
> Total cost a whopping $538 . 3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!
>
> If this doesn't bother YOU, then just delete the message. Otherwise, forward this to everyone YOU know!
>************
>No surrender!
>
>Dionysus

Thanks for the info and links.
>
Many Americans don't understand the finacial impact of illegals. They
do understand the crime, fith, and decay brought by these invaders.

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 1:18 pm
From: Hachiroku ハチロク

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:00:30 -0400, tripletask wrote:

>>AN E-MAIL FROM A FRIEND
>>
>>HEAD: What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
>>I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament"- 10/25/07.
>>
>>I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "illegal aliens pay
>>rent, buy groceries, buy clothes. What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?"

I don't know but I'm willing to take a chance and find out...

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 2:05 pm
From: "h"

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message news:4c5090e0$0$74751
>
> I don't know but I'm willing to take a chance and find out...

Me too, me too!

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