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TOPIC: paying $4.95 a month for Internet, but may upgrade
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 8:31 pm
From: Tony Sivori

Ohioguy wrote:

> I'm paying $4.95 a month for dialup Internet.

> Anybody know of a website or anywhere that has specials like this
> advertised regularly?

AT&T has a special for their slowest DSL for $14.95 per month. This is
available as "dry loop" DSL which means you don't have to pay for a land
line.

See link for more info:

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1020394/

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

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TOPIC: I HACK $3000 FROM PAYPAL
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Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 12:15 am
From: paypal cash

I HACK $3000 FROM PAYPAL At http://simpleupdates.tk

Due to high security risks, i have hidden the PAYPAL FORM link in an
image. in that website on Right Side below search box, click
on image and enter your name and PAYPAL ID.

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TOPIC: MESMARISING VIDEOS&HOT PHOTOS
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 12:34 am
From: RAMYA

AMISHAPATEL HOT BOOBS

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/07/amishpatel-latest-photos.html

ARCHANA UNSEENED EXPOSING PHOTOS

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/07/archana-unseened-photos.html

KATRINA KAIF HOT SEXY PHOTOS

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/07/katrina-sexy-looking-photos.html

THISHA HOT WET PHOTOS

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/06/thrisha-hot-wet-photos.html

SEXY CHARMI IN A BATHROOM

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/06/charmi-in-bath.html

KAJALAGARWAL IN A ROMANTIC FEEL

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/06/kajal-hot-photos.html

NAMITHA IN A BEACH

http://babes-devi.blogspot.com/2010/06/nayagarala-namitha.html

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TOPIC: Property Tax Surprise.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:21 am
From: Jeff Thies

I appealed my property taxes last year and just got the new bill.

Last year it was ~$1,400.

This year, $33.43. Take that OhioGuy!

The house value fell by about 2/3 and it was enough for the
exemptions to cover most of the assessed.

The world is run by loons.

Jeff

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 8:01 am
From: Derald

Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote:

>The world is run by loons.
Sadly, that is not news. It is my view that truly competent people do not
need the aggrandizement of determining public policy, for example, or of
"clawing" to the so-called "top". Hell, clawing ones way to the top of a dung
heap still leaves one in deep....
--
Derald

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TOPIC: long lasting razor
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:42 am
From: Jeff Thies

On 9/6/2010 1:38 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:24:41 -0400, Jeff Thies<jeff_thies@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Seems like I only get a shave a two out of a razor before I need a
>> need one.
>>
>> What razors have got better longevity or what tricks can I use to get
>> more shaves?
<snip>
>>
>
> I've been using Gillete Fusion for 4-5 years.
> Get at least 15-20 shaves a cartridge.

Amazing.

> Since I like a close shave that's really closer to 20-30 because I
> sort of shave twice. A complete go over, then I wet my face again,
> relather and go over any place where I can feel stubble with my
> fingers stretching my skin.
> I don't get more lather from the can, but use what's left on my
> lathering hand, which is enough.
> The go over might be why I get a lot of shaves from a blade.
> Even if it dulls a bit I get a clean shave the second go around.
> I change when I feel the blade grabbing instead of cutting.
> When I'm at home, which is most the time, I shave as the last thing
> during my bath, sitting up in the tub. Keep a mirror sitting on the
> wall faucet handles.
> While laying back in the tub soaking up some heat I'll drape the warm
> wet washcloth on my face for a while just before I shave.
> I use Edge gel and the can floats in the bath, so it's warm.
> My dad had an electric shaving cream can heater on his sink for years
> before he went to shaving with an electric razor and that worked good.
> Started shaving in the bath when I had a back problem and it hurt to
> lean over the sink. Never went back.
> I think warm cream/gel makes a big difference - when I'm on the road
> and use cold gel standing at a mirror I notice more resistance from
> the whiskers.

I think I'll give that a try, and the hot towel. I'm ready for a big
difference, or any difference for that matter. Looks like the new cream
warmers are dogs:

http://www.amazon.com/Conair-Lather-Machine-Chrome-Finish/product-reviews/B001M1JC6O/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

I'd be up for Derald's cut throat if I could find one. Well, maybe not
such a good idea for me! At any rate, I usually just give up on trying
to get a close shave after a while. I must have a tough beard, or not
enough patience.

Jeff

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 8:01 am
From: Derald

Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote:

>I think I'll give that a try, and the hot towel. I'm ready for a big
>difference, or any difference for that matter. Looks like the new cream
>warmers are dogs:
I had a college friend who shaved in the shower; never could get the hang
of that myself, even with a mirror. The hot towel thing (or hot facecloth thing)
works; that's why barbers use it. The aim is to help water penetrate and soften
ones beard. The shaving cream, foam, soap, etc. merely stands the whiskers up
and lubricates. Manufacturers tried self-heating "hot" shaving creams in the
1960's; that was a bust, too: Didn't stay hot long enough.
Personally, I'm a total Luddite when it comes to shaving. I use cup soap
and a brush. I obtain nicely warmed (well, hot) lather by resting the shaving
mug and the brush in scalding hot water for a brief time prior to shaving.
Another trick you may try is to wash your face with ("Johnson's") baby
shampoo before you shave. The detergents in shampoo do a much better job than
soap of removing oil -- thereby allowing water to better penetrate the beard --
and baby shampoo is least likely to leave behind residue of its own.
Shaving twice works, especially if the second pass is "against the grain".
However, if the razor is not really sharp, shaving against the hair's direction
of growth can leave the cut end jagged and, with some beard types, promote or
aggravate "ingrown" whiskers.
Please bear in mind that I'm _not_ a barber! What I "know" about shaving, I
learned from a library copy of a barber college textbook. You might want to
visit a library some rainy day and see what they have in that department. You
might find something you'd never have thought about otherwise. Also, remember
that you don't pay for free advice until you use it! ;-)
Where is "Tock" when we need him?
--
Derald

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 8:37 am
From: Vic Smith

On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:42:26 -0400, Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net>
wrote:

>
>I think I'll give that a try, and the hot towel. I'm ready for a big
>difference, or any difference for that matter. Looks like the new cream
>warmers are dogs:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Conair-Lather-Machine-Chrome-Finish/product-reviews/B001M1JC6O/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
>

I only used the one my dad had once a long time ago, and it was hotter
lather than I get from soaking the can in the tub.
Don't know what brand it was or how much it cost.
About reviews.
I really like the actual customer reviews as a tool, but you have to
keep a few things in mind.

1. Happy customers are far less likely to respond.
2. Some people will bitch about anything.
3. Some people are incompetent to assemble a cap on a jar.
4. Some people are incompetent to operate a pair of scissors.
5. The people described in 3 and 4 can still type and bitch just fine.
6. Ignore the "Just delivered, haven't used it, but it's fabulous!"
reviews. Same with "Got it for my boyfriend. He loves it!"

I've bought plenty of items from Amazon, Sears, Newegg that had less
than stellar reviews and had no problem at all with the item.
If I see a couple positive reviews that are thorough and intelligent,
that's what I go by.

Three years ago I did buy a Sears washing machine that had too many
bad reviews for my taste, and no thorough long-term reviews, but my
wife had her mind set on that machine and it was a better option than
divorce.
Not much time to argue because our 40 year old Kenmore went kaput.
She keyed right onto a very large capacity with stainless tub so she
can do rugs/comforters, etc.
And a high speed spin so the dryer works less.
The reviews were bad enough that I actually paid $200 for a 5 year
"instant replacement" warranty. That hurt.
Think about. In this situation seeing those reviews cost me 200
bucks. Not a normal situation though.
But I calculated the dime a day was worth it for "peace of mind" after
reading a few horror story reviews of being without a washing machine
for weeks at a time and trucking laundry to the laundro-mat.
Haven't had a problem with the machine yet.
In 2 more years I'll know if ignorance is bliss and $200 in the
pocket. But I bought my "peace of mind" in any case.

The more reviews the better. Better version of the "truth."
This model shaving cream warmer is only 15 bucks and has 73 reviews
versus the 11 on the model you cited..
http://www.amazon.com/Conair-HGL1-Combination-Lather-Machine/dp/B000BD4T94/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Here's what I consider a sane review for it.
He gave it 3 (of 5) stars.

"Let's face it (no pun), this is not a high tech product, but a simple
device that warms up a can of shaving cream. I've been using this for
about three to four years, and it's worked fine. I use regular shaving
cream, and have not had any problems connecting a can of Gillette
Foamy or Barbasol to the unit. I've also found that using this device
eliminates the amount of residual cream in the can when the aerosol
runs out (guess that means I've gotten one free can of cream over the
time I've used this, but worth noting).

Early on, I learned that you need to shake the unit (like you would a
can of cream)before using so as not to get a handful of warm cream
soup when you're ready to shave. This is a bit cumbersome given the
dimensions and weight of the unit, but makes the final result much
better. I can't help but wonder if many of the poor reviews reflect
this logistical problem, but I don't know how to get around it other
than shaking it before plugging it in.

I've also noted that many reviewers have complained as to how much
this actually "warms" the shaving cream. It's not hot, I'll grant you,
but it's certainly much warmer than the cream straight out of the can.
To that end, given that we're talking about a $15-20 device that heats
up $1-2 cans of shaving cream, I'm not sure I want something that can
make a really hot bunch of shaving cream. "

Anyway, I don't want one of these, but you might.
At least you know up front to shake it.
I always try to write a product review on the website I used to make
the purchase. After I've used the product enough to know what I'm
talking about.
But I'm behind about 5 reviews, because I don't have anything to bitch
about, and it's more work writing a good review than a bad one.
And sometimes they discontinue a product, which is one reason you
don't find a lot of "long-term" reviews.

--Vic

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 2:55 pm
From: "Bob F"

Vic Smith wrote:
> "Let's face it (no pun), this is not a high tech product, but a simple
> device that warms up a can of shaving cream. I've been using this for
> about three to four years, and it's worked fine. I use regular shaving
> cream, and have not had any problems connecting a can of Gillette
> Foamy or Barbasol to the unit. I've also found that using this device
> eliminates the amount of residual cream in the can when the aerosol
> runs out (guess that means I've gotten one free can of cream over the
> time I've used this, but worth noting).
>
> Early on, I learned that you need to shake the unit (like you would a
> can of cream)before using so as not to get a handful of warm cream
> soup when you're ready to shave. This is a bit cumbersome given the
> dimensions and weight of the unit, but makes the final result much
> better. I can't help but wonder if many of the poor reviews reflect
> this logistical problem, but I don't know how to get around it other
> than shaking it before plugging it in.

I have found that wetting my face for a minute before shaving is all I need.
Whether a hot washcloth held to my face, showering before or while shaving, or
wetting my face a few times in the hottub before I get out and shave, they all
do the job. A bar of ivory soap does fine for the lubrication. I haven't bought
or used a can of shave cream in decades. I probably get over 30 shaves per cheap
disposable razor.

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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great is like God the Almighty
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:44 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

Full of ire but unable to propose a solution. I think he's also an old
fart like God, which would explain his temper.

What I wonder is why they worship themselves so much. True Wisdom of
the Jungle comes being humble even when you know you are the one.
Nobody disputes that, right?

Have a banana, Ed.

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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 6:33 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

Hey Ed, I know you are mindless about it, but your spewing hate
against the Muslims doesn't help anyone...

"Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center's 'Burn a Koran Day' endangers
troops"

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2010/0907/Petraeus-Dove-World-Outreach-Center-s-Burn-a-Koran-Day-endangers-troops

Are you planning to burn one?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:44 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cd469d60-5076-45c0-9025-a046def290f6@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> Full of ire but unable to propose a solution. I think he's also an old
> fart like God, which would explain his temper.
>
> What I wonder is why they worship themselves so much. True Wisdom of
> the Jungle comes being humble even when you know you are the one.
> Nobody disputes that, right?
>
> Have a banana, Ed.

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 6:50 am
From: JimmyMac

On Sep 6, 3:09 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:03628cd5-f2c0-464d-8094-1e50b66ddc04@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> [...]> Thanks for the frank admission. Although you accuse others of not
>
> advancing a discussion, you stand guilty of just that (read self-
> incrimination).
>
> I throw out all kinds of ideas with every post, but you only know how to do
> a couple of things. It is strictly a personal attack mode or else some
> long-winded message which no one, not even me, will ever read. Try to get
> real. You seem not to have a clue about what Usenet is for. You made the
> same mistake with Ed Gin.

Heard it all before countless times. Once more you have not responded
to what was said/written, again not advancing the discussion with
little more than monotonous, recycled diversionary nonsense. Thanks
for making my point. Personal attack is something that you set
yourself up for and deserve. Experience is what you get when you
don't get what you wanted. You are so embittered. It just must suck
to be you. As concerns Usenet, I know perfectly well what it is
about. Your the one who hasn't a clue. If you did, perhaps you would
not have garnered such opposition and lack of respect from the
readership. The conundrum continues.

> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > > aka
> > > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 7:06 am
From: JimmyMac

On Sep 6, 3:20 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6ec782e2-cdc6-426a-838e-7ff9438e47e9@v41g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 5, 5:57 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Try to insult TM. Go ahead, I dare you. He is such an idiot that he is
> > oblivious to insults. That is the one and sole advantage of being the
> > village idiot.
> >> TM is ignoring you, and that makes you angry. TM knows that long
> and has as much as said so here.. He is playing you and doing
> quite well I might add. You hate to be ignore. Tom Sherman knows
> that. TM knows that and I know that. Perhaps I should ignore you as
> well. Then who would you have to squabble with.
>
> I mean to step on TM's posts with copy and paste and that is all I ever
> intend to do.

Whatever turns your crank ... CRANK!

> Tom Sherman I utterly defeated.

I'm thinking Tom would have a different opinion in that regard.

> After all, he has to work at
> his fucking job and I have all the time in the world.

AND, that is somehow the proof of what, pray tell?

> You can leave any time
> you please and I will never miss you.

You really know how to hurt a guy ... NOT!!!

> I am incapable of being made angry or jealous on Usenet, or in real life for
> that matter. It is part of My Greatness!

... says, the Queen of de Nile.

> Your biggest mistake is thinking I am in any way like you. Again, as with
> TM, it is the difference between night and day!

Utterly laughable ... ludicrous!!! Can you possibly get any more
absurd that this? Your biggest mistake is thinking that I would
consider you in any way like me. Fortunately, no one is like you.
Actually, I thank God that you were not born a twin.

> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 7:18 am
From: JimmyMac

On Sep 6, 3:25 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:16fac340-1312-4fbb-a94b-042e5e86bd43@y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 5, 6:07 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > If I wanted to stalk you, it would be the easiest thing in the world
> > because
> > you respond to everything like one of Pavlov's dogs. But stalking is for
> > minor actors on the stage of life. It is not for us Great Ones who go our
> > own way while permitting the dogs to bark at the passing carnival in the
> > night.
> >> Diversion duly noted. And this has what to do in relation that that
>
> which you responded to or not as the case may be? It is interesting
> to note that you obviously consider diverting a topic and going off on
> a tangent to resurrect mind-numbimg, monotonous regurgitated old
> material as a means to advance the discussion. The conundrum
> continues.
>
> You cannot follow my train of thought because of your limited brain power.

Admittedly, it is difficult to follow the train of thougth of someone
with an irrational, illogical mindset who inadvertently or
intentionally derails the train of thought. How can someone with such
poor powers of perception be so bold as to comment about anyone else's
cerebral capacity?

> > Ed Gin played you like a violin, but I am not a scum bucket like him. I do
> > not play people, I just tell 'em like it is.
> >> And you were summarily ignored by Ed Gin just like you are ignored by
> TM, much to your chagrin. What we have here is yet another fine example
> of repetitiously resurrected, masticated, regurgitated, tiresome grist.
> You are so boringly predictable. Surely you can do better ... then
> again, maybe not. I'm losing patience with your insipid drivel. I
> prefer to engage intelligent lifeforms and as of late you have yet to
> prove that you qualify.
>
> "You cannot follow my train of thought because of your limited brain
> power." - Ed Dolan

Another example of copy and paste worthless regurgitated opinion
stated as fact. Readers, when he can contribute nothing better, this
is what you get from the GRATE one HEAD Dolan , but you already know
that.

> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:59 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:260c5cf8-5256-484d-8c96-32fa5d32d788@v41g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 3:09 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:03628cd5-f2c0-464d-8094-1e50b66ddc04@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> [...]> Thanks for the frank admission. Although you accuse others of not
>
> advancing a discussion, you stand guilty of just that (read self-
> incrimination).
>
> I throw out all kinds of ideas with every post, but you only know how to
> do
> a couple of things. It is strictly a personal attack mode or else some
> long-winded message which no one, not even me, will ever read. Try to get
> real. You seem not to have a clue about what Usenet is for. You made the
> same mistake with Ed Gin.

>> Heard it all before countless times. Once more you have not responded
to what was said/written, again not advancing the discussion with
little more than monotonous, recycled diversionary nonsense. Thanks
for making my point.

As long as you continue to be the stalker that you are, repetition is all
you will ever get from me. Get used to it ... or else change your ways.

>> Personal attack is something that you set
yourself up for and deserve. Experience is what you get when you
don't get what you wanted. You are so embittered. It just must suck
to be you.

I only kick ass that deserves to be kicked, like yours for instance.

>> As concerns Usenet, I know perfectly well what it is
about. Your the one who hasn't a clue. If you did, perhaps you would
not have garnered such opposition and lack of respect from the
readership. The conundrum continues.

You thought Usenet was for your personal vendetta with Ed Gin. That is how
clueless you were.

> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > > aka
> > > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows -
> > > > > Minnesota

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 7:11 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

I was watching last night a truly inspiring movie: "QUICKSILVER," the
first movie I've seen to glamorize RIDING A BIKE & LIVING ON PEANUTS.
Here's the preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPTu2F450sk

It's all pure jungle, but the cooperative monkeys prevail and teach
the ultimate lesson to the predator: "DON'T MESS WITH THE MONKEYS."

These are "WARRIOR CYCLISTS" who ride against traffic and risk it all
for the fun of it. What I propose though is making our whole cities
friendly to "UTILITY BICYCLES" (aka Sport Utility Bike).

There's more humanity in this Urban Jungle (NYC) than in the fake Bali
Julia Roberts found happiness. The world of the lions is as fake as
Bali.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 9:48 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

SORRY FOR THE TYPO IN THE TITLE. WHO WANTS TO GET MARRIED? ;)

I guess somebody out there says the same thing:

(Maybe that wisdom has been out there for a while. For some reason, it
sounds Barbarian. The Christians deny it but still do it without
gusto. At most they go to McDonald's. And the lions are not really
Epicurean. The Wise Tibetan Monkey is truly inspired in simplicity)

'We don't know all the facts, but we do know that our natural
instincts are to survive and fuck, just like every other animal on
earth. Some like to think that we are a chosen species, that we are
above other animals, that there is more to our life than there is to
the life of a dog for example. Fact is, we have the exact same
instincts as every other living thing. Survive and fuck is what it
boils down to.

I love how people like to pretend they're not animals. You see people,
rich people, drinking fine expensive wines, eating foods that cost
thousands of dollars to find and prepare, drinking from a single glass
that costs more than a poor mans weekly wages with their little finger
stuck out and a "I'm above you" aura about them.

It's an illusion. It's like putting makeup on a pig and calling it a
princess. We are animals, only difference is our brains have developed
in such a way that we like to think we're not animals, that we're
above animals, that we're more important and masters of the planet.

Hate to tell ya, but we're not. Eat, fuck and be merry, for tomorrow
you could be dead, and after death there is nothing.'

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=234689&page=3

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 2:50 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 9/6/2010 11:37 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzmqHJ0gPU
>
> I went to see this light yet deep comedy to make my girlfriend happy
> as well as to learn from such wisdom, and this what I wrote in the
> comments on the bulletin board: "You need a lot of concentration to
> sit through it. Signed, the Wise Tibetan Monkey." My thoughts were
> escaping to these bulletin boards.
>
> To be honest, I saw life in Italy that made sense in their enjoyment
> of life, but the toothless guru in Bali was most disappointing. Of
> course, in true Hollywood style, she found happiness in Bali, in the
> form of a lion who roared his motorboat to escape to a deserted island
> with 500 parrots... I wonder what happened next. ;)
>
> Hey, c'mon guys, you don't need Bali, you don't need outboard
> motorboat, you don't need a credit card to travel in order to be
> happy. All you need is a bicycle, a smart girl and some simple yet
> wholesome food, like peanuts and banana.
>
> Very telling though: She's riding her bike in Paradise and this
> asshole comes in his stupid Totota 4WD (it had to be Toyota), bruising
> her, but also creating the occasion for the affair.
>
> Thanks to the Spirits of the Jungle we have a Wise Tibetan Monkey to
> tell it all like it is --without the praying:
>
> "EAT, PHUCK AND BE MERRY"
>
> We don't live in mental masturbation in the jungle.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "I'm watching two cockatiels in love and guess what happens next..."
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
Let me guess; she paid for the tickets.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 4:41 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Sep 7, 2:50 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2010 11:37 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzmqHJ0gPU
>
> > I went to see this light yet deep comedy to make my girlfriend happy
> > as well as to learn from such wisdom, and this what I wrote in the
> > comments on the bulletin board: "You need a lot of concentration to
> > sit through it. Signed, the Wise Tibetan Monkey." My thoughts were
> > escaping to these bulletin boards.
>
> > To be honest, I saw life in Italy that made sense in their enjoyment
> > of life, but the toothless guru in Bali was most disappointing. Of
> > course, in true Hollywood style, she found happiness in Bali, in the
> > form of a lion who roared his motorboat to escape to a deserted island
> > with 500 parrots... I wonder what happened next. ;)
>
> > Hey, c'mon guys, you don't need Bali, you don't need outboard
> > motorboat, you don't need a credit card to travel in order to be
> > happy. All you need is a bicycle, a smart girl and some simple yet
> > wholesome food, like peanuts and banana.
>
> > Very telling though: She's riding her bike in Paradise and this
> > asshole comes in his stupid Totota 4WD (it had to be Toyota), bruising
> > her, but also creating the occasion for the affair.
>
> > Thanks to the Spirits of the Jungle we have a Wise Tibetan Monkey to
> > tell it all like it is --without the praying:
>
> > "EAT, PHUCK AND BE MERRY"
>
> > We don't live in mental masturbation in the jungle.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "I'm watching two cockatiels in love and guess what happens next..."
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Let me guess; she paid for the tickets.

Is that jungle wisdom? Well, we live in cooperative so we don't keep
accurate account of those little expenses...

You know how much my wisdom is worth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogQ0uge06o&feature=related

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 4:55 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 9/7/2010 7:41 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the
Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 7, 2:50 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2010 11:37 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzmqHJ0gPU
>>
>>> I went to see this light yet deep comedy to make my girlfriend happy
>>> as well as to learn from such wisdom, and this what I wrote in the
>>> comments on the bulletin board: "You need a lot of concentration to
>>> sit through it. Signed, the Wise Tibetan Monkey." My thoughts were
>>> escaping to these bulletin boards.
>>
>>> To be honest, I saw life in Italy that made sense in their enjoyment
>>> of life, but the toothless guru in Bali was most disappointing. Of
>>> course, in true Hollywood style, she found happiness in Bali, in the
>>> form of a lion who roared his motorboat to escape to a deserted island
>>> with 500 parrots... I wonder what happened next. ;)
>>
>>> Hey, c'mon guys, you don't need Bali, you don't need outboard
>>> motorboat, you don't need a credit card to travel in order to be
>>> happy. All you need is a bicycle, a smart girl and some simple yet
>>> wholesome food, like peanuts and banana.
>>
>>> Very telling though: She's riding her bike in Paradise and this
>>> asshole comes in his stupid Totota 4WD (it had to be Toyota), bruising
>>> her, but also creating the occasion for the affair.
>>
>>> Thanks to the Spirits of the Jungle we have a Wise Tibetan Monkey to
>>> tell it all like it is --without the praying:
>>
>>> "EAT, PHUCK AND BE MERRY"
>>
>>> We don't live in mental masturbation in the jungle.
>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>>
>>> "I'm watching two cockatiels in love and guess what happens next..."
>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>>
>> Let me guess; she paid for the tickets.
>
> Is that jungle wisdom? Well, we live in cooperative so we don't keep
> accurate account of those little expenses...
>
> You know how much my wisdom is worth?
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogQ0uge06o&feature=related
>
From what I've seen so far, about as much as I'm paying for it.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:28 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Sep 7, 4:55 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/2010 7:41 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the
>
> Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 2:50 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/6/2010 11:37 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzmqHJ0gPU
>
> >>> I went to see this light yet deep comedy to make my girlfriend happy
> >>> as well as to learn from such wisdom, and this what I wrote in the
> >>> comments on the bulletin board: "You need a lot of concentration to
> >>> sit through it. Signed, the Wise Tibetan Monkey." My thoughts were
> >>> escaping to these bulletin boards.
>
> >>> To be honest, I saw life in Italy that made sense in their enjoyment
> >>> of life, but the toothless guru in Bali was most disappointing. Of
> >>> course, in true Hollywood style, she found happiness in Bali, in the
> >>> form of a lion who roared his motorboat to escape to a deserted island
> >>> with 500 parrots... I wonder what happened next. ;)
>
> >>> Hey, c'mon guys, you don't need Bali, you don't need outboard
> >>> motorboat, you don't need a credit card to travel in order to be
> >>> happy. All you need is a bicycle, a smart girl and some simple yet
> >>> wholesome food, like peanuts and banana.
>
> >>> Very telling though: She's riding her bike in Paradise and this
> >>> asshole comes in his stupid Totota 4WD (it had to be Toyota), bruising
> >>> her, but also creating the occasion for the affair.
>
> >>> Thanks to the Spirits of the Jungle we have a Wise Tibetan Monkey to
> >>> tell it all like it is --without the praying:
>
> >>> "EAT, PHUCK AND BE MERRY"
>
> >>> We don't live in mental masturbation in the jungle.
>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> >>> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> >>> "I'm watching two cockatiels in love and guess what happens next..."
>
> >>>http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >> Let me guess; she paid for the tickets.
>
> > Is that jungle wisdom? Well, we live in cooperative so we don't keep
> > accurate account of those little expenses...
>
> > You know how much my wisdom is worth?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogQ0uge06o&feature=related
>
> From what I've seen so far, about as much as I'm paying for it.

OK, go ahead, swipe your credit card, and watch, "Eat, Pray, Love."

Don't forget to watch Quicksilver though.

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TOPIC: property tax appeal denied
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 3:02 pm
From: "Bob F"

Napoleon wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:40:37 -0400, Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I did a bit of research, and found out our neighbor to the north is
>> paying about 25% less in taxes than we are. The house has the same
>> number of bedrooms, and sold for in the same neighborhood as ours.
>> It is also in about the same shape, and is the same age. Can I use
>> this as part of the argument to get our taxes lowered?
>
> That's a comp. You need four more of those. Plus five more comps for
> actual sales, preferably in the last two years. Of course people can
> always ignore your comps (which is what the town board did to us). But
> at least you pointed out the unfairness, and can keep going back to
> the assessor board every year with the same info if they refuse to
> lower your assessment comparable to the comps.

A comp is a comparable sale. To be relevent, the comps should be around the
assessment time. That is, they should be sales that occured within a couple
months of the assesment date. In my case, that date is Jan 1 of the year the
assessment was received.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 3:07 pm
From: "Bob F"

Ohioguy wrote:
>> new construction. That's why your neighbor appealed, she had just
>> built a house.
>
> Actually, hers was built in 1980, I believe, and ours in 1979. Money got
> tight, and so she tried to decrease her taxes - simple as
> that.
>
>> clue how to fill out the paperwork and find comps. This will be a
>> great business, and I'll be able to piss off the local government
>> too.
>
> Not sure if you really want to do that - they could turn around and
> make your life miserable in return, couldn't they? However, I do
> understand what you are saying about helping everyone else around save
> on the taxes. I suppose once 4 or 5 neighbors have knocked the taxes
> down, it would be easier for neighbors to use.

What is relevent is not what the neighbors pay, but what prices houses sell for.
Telling the assessor that neighbors pay less than you is not likely to help
(other than getting them re-assessed upward). Showing them a list of comparable
houses that sold for less will help much more.

>
> Also, guess what? I measured the living area in my house, adding a
> couple of feet just to be pessimistic. It turns out the living area
> is a full 20% less than what it says on the auditor's website!

That is significant.

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TOPIC: List Of Moochelle Obama's Servants
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/166f367392062be8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 7 2010 5:02 pm
From: walt tonne

On Sep 3, 9:23 am, DumpObama@America. (* US *) wrote:
> Check out the Pay of the 1st Niggeress Moochelle HObama's Servants.
> She has More Than 20 Attendants (This is Coonmunity Organizing at its
> finest.)
>
> There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time that has
> created such an army of rumpswabs whose sole duties are the
> facilitation of the First Sheboon's social life. One wonders why she
> needs so much help, at taxpayer expense, when even Hillary, only had
> three; Jackie Kennedy one; Laura Bush one; and prior to Mamie
> Eisenhower social help came from the President's own pocket. These
> salaries add up to six million, three hundred sixty four thousand
> dollars ($6,364,000.00) for the 4 years of office.In a recession? Most
> of us are. Vote like your way of life depends on it! Because it does!
>
> 1. $172,2000 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
> 2. $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Deputy Assistant to the President and
> Director of Policy & Projects For The 1st Sow)
> 3. $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (Special Assistant to the President
> and White House Social Secretary)
> 4. $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the President
> and Director of Communications for the 1st Hoe)
> 5. $100,000 - Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President
> and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the 1st Bitch)
> 6. $90,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First
> Hoe)
> 7. $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to
> the First Hoe)
> 8. $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance
> for the First Hoe)
> 9. $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects
> for
> the First Hoe)
> 10 $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social
> Secretary)
> 11. $64,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social
> Secretary)
> 12. $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and
> Events Coordinator For The 1st Hoe)
> 13. $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip
> Director for the First Hoe)
> 14. $57,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to
> the First Hoe)
> 15. $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy
> Press Secretary to The First Hoe)
> 16. $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for Scheduling
> and Traveling Aide to The First Hoe)
> 17. $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of
> Correspondence For The First Hoe)
> 18. $43,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social
> Office)
> 19. $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of
> Staff to the First Hoe)
> 20. $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social
> Secretary)
> 21. $35,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
> 22. $35,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of
> Correspondence for the First Hoe)
> Note: This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and
> "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard
> Air Force One to Europe

75% groids! Discrimination.

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