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TOPIC: Yet another preventable death blamed on SUVs?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2010 9:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Sep 17, 3:06 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/17/2010 11:22 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > Unless you believe in fate or in God killing at random (say to join
> > his army of angels), you realize that the law of physics (superior
> > mass) as well as the point of impact (height of the bumpers) make a
> > killing combination for most mortals. This is no ordinary game or a
> > rehearsal of the real thing. This is it...
>
> > (I quote from the daily news)
>
> > Brian Wood spent his life thrilling millions of faceless gamers, but
> > his last moment was spent saving the lives of those he loved most.
>
> > Wood, a 33 year-old lead designer at popular game developer Relic
> > Entertainment, was on his way back to his Washington home when his
> > wagon was struck by an oncoming Chevy Blazer being driven by a 21 year-
> > old woman believed to be driving under the influence. With his
> > pregnant wife Erin in the passenger seat, Wood swerved his car to put
> > himself directly in the path of the oncoming SUV -- a decision that
> > ultimately cost him his life, but protected his wife and unborn child
> > from harm. Two other passengers riding in the backseat of the Blazer
> > were also killed.
>
> > "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
> > would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
> > (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
> > the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
> > thing that saved us both."
>
> >http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/gamers-lend-support-to-...
>
> > -----------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Don't give some monkeys overwhelming tools which can kill other
> > monkeys"
>
> > "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>
> Seems more the fault of the drunk guy behind the wheel than anything else.

Not if she had been driving a Smart...

On Sep 17, 4:23 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:dc473a54-6e7c-4d8a-85a6-534df7388800@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
> > would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
> > (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
> > the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
> > thing that saved us both."
>
> From the dead bodies in the SUV, whos top cannot support the weight of a
> typical SUV loaded with people, I'd say you were no safer in it than the
> wagon.
>
> Compare my Smart's crash tests vs a Mercedes S-class sedan.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPdEWLnAQr0
>
> Note the driver's legs weren't crushed and the Trition Safety Cell remains
> intact.
>
> Well, I'm off to dinner in it. I hope I survive....(c;]

The dummies in the bigger cars are a problem for the smart people who
drive small cars.

That's the moral of the story, right?

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 1:49 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b577483c-677e-4f29-9061-32430734fdf8@m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
> Unless you believe in fate or in God killing at random (say to join
> his army of angels), you realize that the law of physics (superior
> mass) as well as the point of impact (height of the bumpers) make a
> killing combination for most mortals. This is no ordinary game or a
> rehearsal of the real thing. This is it...
>
> (I quote from the daily news)
>
> Brian Wood spent his life thrilling millions of faceless gamers, but
> his last moment was spent saving the lives of those he loved most.
>
> Wood, a 33 year-old lead designer at popular game developer Relic
> Entertainment, was on his way back to his Washington home when his
> wagon was struck by an oncoming Chevy Blazer being driven by a 21 year-
> old woman believed to be driving under the influence. With his
> pregnant wife Erin in the passenger seat, Wood swerved his car to put
> himself directly in the path of the oncoming SUV -- a decision that
> ultimately cost him his life, but protected his wife and unborn child
> from harm. Two other passengers riding in the backseat of the Blazer
> were also killed.
>
> "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
> would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
> (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
> the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
> thing that saved us both."

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:32 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Sep 17, 10:16 pm, livvy <mmrward1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 8:24 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Unless you believe in fate or in God killing at random (say to join
> > his army of angels), you realize that the law of physics (superior
> > mass) as well as the point of impact (height of the bumpers) make a
> > killing combination for most mortals. This is no ordinary game or a
> > rehearsal of the real thing. This is it...
>
> > (I quote from the daily news)
>
> > Brian Wood spent his life thrilling millions of faceless gamers, but
> > his last moment was spent saving the lives of those he loved most.
>
> > Wood, a 33 year-old lead designer at popular game developer Relic
> > Entertainment, was on his way back to his Washington home when his
> > wagon was struck by an oncoming Chevy Blazer being driven by a 21 year-
> > old woman believed to be driving under the influence. With his
> > pregnant wife Erin in the passenger seat, Wood swerved his car to put
> > himself directly in the path of the oncoming SUV -- a decision that
> > ultimately cost him his life, but protected his wife and unborn child
> > from harm. Two other passengers riding in the backseat of the Blazer
> > were also killed.
>
> > "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
> > would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
> > (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
> > the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
> > thing that saved us both."
>
> >http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/gamers-lend-support-to-...
>
> > -----------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Don't give some monkeys overwhelming tools which can kill other
> > monkeys"
>
> > "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>
> The story is out there on the news. Physics....don't talk about such
> things when you are in over your head. A 21 year old woman (just how
> the guys like 'em) driving an SUV, not sure if alcohol was a
> factor. The victim saw the vehicle, and tried to avoid it. Don't
> make it more than it is, a tragic accident. If charges should be
> filed at the driver of the SUV, than they should be.
> Many people have lost loved ones, it happens on a daily basis. And
> hasn't a thing to do with religion. So carry on your anti-God
> thing. It's irrelevant, rage all you want. Won't change
> anything. Be careful out there....

It has a lot to do with Christians campaigning for saving lives in the
womb while lending a deaf ear to those who needlessly die on the road.
An SUV, by definition, is an Stupid Unnecessary Vehicle. Jesus
wouldn't drive one. ;)

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 8:23 am
From: Opus

On Sep 18, 3:49 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>snip<
> TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
> hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
> His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
> poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.
>
Ed, I have been riding bicycles in the street since LBJ was sworn in,
and I have to say that roads that were perfectly fine to ride on and
share with cars back 40 years ago when there were fewer cars are now
nightmares to ride on, because there are too many cars on them. The
layout of the roads didn't change, cyclists and pedestrians didn't
change, the only thing that changed was the number of cars and the
attitude of the "people" driving them. Even when I ride the relatively
quiet side streets (where they go through, most side streets where I
live are dead ends) I get honked at and harassed by drivers because
"Yer in the street!". Somewhere in the last 40 years the attitude that
bicycles are transportation has vanished from the Anglophone world.
And the number of cars has likewise skyrocketed, so that there just
isn't room in the street for bicycles and pedestrians.

So TM is right, cars (and the attitudes of their operators) ARE THE
PROBLEM.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 9:28 am
From: Forrest Hodge

On 9/18/2010 12:21 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 17, 3:06 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/17/2010 11:22 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> Unless you believe in fate or in God killing at random (say to join
>>> his army of angels), you realize that the law of physics (superior
>>> mass) as well as the point of impact (height of the bumpers) make a
>>> killing combination for most mortals. This is no ordinary game or a
>>> rehearsal of the real thing. This is it...
>>
>>> (I quote from the daily news)
>>
>>> Brian Wood spent his life thrilling millions of faceless gamers, but
>>> his last moment was spent saving the lives of those he loved most.
>>
>>> Wood, a 33 year-old lead designer at popular game developer Relic
>>> Entertainment, was on his way back to his Washington home when his
>>> wagon was struck by an oncoming Chevy Blazer being driven by a 21 year-
>>> old woman believed to be driving under the influence. With his
>>> pregnant wife Erin in the passenger seat, Wood swerved his car to put
>>> himself directly in the path of the oncoming SUV -- a decision that
>>> ultimately cost him his life, but protected his wife and unborn child
>>> from harm. Two other passengers riding in the backseat of the Blazer
>>> were also killed.
>>
>>> "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
>>> would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
>>> (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
>>> the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
>>> thing that saved us both."
>>
>>> http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/gamers-lend-support-to-...
>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>>
>>> "Don't give some monkeys overwhelming tools which can kill other
>>> monkeys"
>>
>>> "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>>
>> Seems more the fault of the drunk guy behind the wheel than anything else.
>
> Not if she had been driving a Smart...
>
> On Sep 17, 4:23 pm, Larry<no...@home.com> wrote:
>> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of the Jungle"
>> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:dc473a54-6e7c-4d8a-85a6-534df7388800@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
>>> would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
>>> (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
>>> the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
>>> thing that saved us both."
>>
>> From the dead bodies in the SUV, whos top cannot support the weight of a
>> typical SUV loaded with people, I'd say you were no safer in it than the
>> wagon.
>>
>> Compare my Smart's crash tests vs a Mercedes S-class sedan.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPdEWLnAQr0
>>
>> Note the driver's legs weren't crushed and the Trition Safety Cell remains
>> intact.
>>
>> Well, I'm off to dinner in it. I hope I survive....(c;]
>
> The dummies in the bigger cars are a problem for the smart people who
> drive small cars.
>
> That's the moral of the story, right?

If he were driving sober and he had an H2, this probably would've never
happened. What was the game designer driving? Perhaps if he was in a
Volvo or even a large car or SUV he would've survived. The Smart's
alleged safety isn't as great as it's touted to be. In crash tests it's
hitting a static object. In the real world there's a high chance you'll
hit another, almost certainly larger car/truck, you cannot engineer your
way out of the laws of physics.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 10:42 am
From: totfit

On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:28:30 -0400, Forrest Hodge wrote:

> If he were driving sober and he had an H2, this probably would've never
> happened. What was the game designer driving? Perhaps if he was in a
> Volvo or even a large car or SUV he would've survived. The Smart's
> alleged safety isn't as great as it's touted to be. In crash tests it's
> hitting a static object. In the real world there's a high chance you'll
> hit another, almost certainly larger car/truck, you cannot engineer your
> way out of the laws of physics.

If one is sober they wouldn't have an H2.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 12:19 am
From: phil scott

On Sep 3, 6:12 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "phil scott" <p...@philscott.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4845dc74-9b85-45ae-b9c0-36be769f85e4@q21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...> Fortunately those who struggle honestly in this time frame, retain
> > their integrity and health seed the following generations with the
> > advanced epigenetics required.
>
> Nope. The smart, well-educated, hard working, healthy people don't breed.
> We've got better things to do.

Ihats actually true

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 1:41 am
From: Nomen Nescio

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 1:52 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Seymour Bush" <comehere@saythatagain.com> wrote in message
news:i70dd8$fm4$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:44:44 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> "Seymour Bush" <come@hereandsaythat.com> wrote in message
>> news:i701uu$c66$5@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:24:03 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> TM is a poor crazy bastard
>>>
>>> That's rich, coming from you.
>>
>> But he really is a poor crazy bastard - and so are you if you can't
>> recognize idiocy when you see it.
>
> Oh, I can recognise it. There's at least 3 of them in this thread, and
> I'm not one of them.

With a name like Seymour Bush, you had better watch your step on these
newsgroups. Most hate the name Bush and I think Seymour is a sissy name.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 1:58 am
From: Tom Sherman °_°

On 9/18/2010 3:52 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Seymour Bush"<comehere@saythatagain.com> wrote in message
> news:i70dd8$fm4$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:44:44 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>> "Seymour Bush"<come@hereandsaythat.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i701uu$c66$5@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:24:03 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> TM is a poor crazy bastard
>>>>
>>>> That's rich, coming from you.
>>>
>>> But he really is a poor crazy bastard - and so are you if you can't
>>> recognize idiocy when you see it.
>>
>> Oh, I can recognise it. There's at least 3 of them in this thread, and
>> I'm not one of them.
>
> With a name like Seymour Bush, you had better watch your step on these
> newsgroups. Most hate the name Bush and I think Seymour is a sissy name.
>
I doubt "Seymour Bush" is a real name (see more bush(female pubic hair)).

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 3:44 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i71uve$njj$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/18/2010 3:52 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> With a name like Seymour Bush, you had better watch your step on these
>> newsgroups. Most hate the name Bush and I think Seymour is a sissy name.
>>
> I doubt "Seymour Bush" is a real name (see more bush(female pubic hair)).

Well, fuck him and all who use non-real names all the way to hell and back!
I use my real name and I stand behind every word I have ever posted to
Usenet. I have never understood cowardice. Jim McNamara, even though a
stalker, is at least not a coward.

A brave man dies but once, but a coward dies a thousand deaths.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 1:57 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c7fe413f-b4ec-40a5-94f7-3a948ee755bf@q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 17, 1:32 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e7ec1c2f-48af-4472-99f6-e0dbae22e6dd@l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 13, 8:21 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Nope, you compared me to TM. I urge you to find out for yourself how we
> > differ. Before you are done with TM, you will be wishing for the return
> > of
> > the two Eds (Ed Gin and Ed Dolan)!
> >> AND, I urge you to refrain from urging, I can only wish for the
>
> return of Ed Dolan if he were to make good his often made, but and
> always broken promise to leave for good. If Ed Dolan were to leave,
> I'd never wish him to return. Don't believe me Ed? Try me.
>
> "Nope, you compared me to TM. I urge you to find out for yourself how we
> differ. Before you are done with TM, you will be wishing for the return of
> the two Eds (Ed Gin and Ed Dolan)!" - Ed Dolan

>>> Diversion duly noted. Copy and paste repetition is a sign of laziness
and lack of intelligence. You deliberately have avoided advancing the
discussion ... something you accuse others of but something of which
you are a master. Oh, and yes ... I did compare you to TM and
apparently that disturbed you greatly, I said that in some ways you
were similar and indicated in which way. I also indicated that in
other ways, you were distinctly different, a credit to TM. I see no
need to insult the guy by saying he is like you in every respect.
Thankfully he is not. Since you have made it painfully obvious that
you have nothing left to offer in the way of discussion, I think we
are done here.

We are only done when I say we are done.

Copy and paste works with you better than most because all you know how to
do is plow the same old ground. That is all you ever did with Ed Gin too. If
and when you want to move on, you will find me receptive.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 5:31 am
From: JimmyMac

On Sep 18, 3:57 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c7fe413f-b4ec-40a5-94f7-3a948ee755bf@q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 17, 1:32 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e7ec1c2f-48af-4472-99f6-e0dbae22e6dd@l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 13, 8:21 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> > [...]
>
> > > Nope, you compared me to TM. I urge you to find out for yourself how we
> > > differ. Before you are done with TM, you will be wishing for the return
> > > of
> > > the two Eds (Ed Gin and Ed Dolan)!
> > >> AND, I urge you to refrain from urging, I can only wish for the
>
> > return of Ed Dolan if he were to make good his often made, but and
> > always broken promise to leave for good. If Ed Dolan were to leave,
> > I'd never wish him to return. Don't believe me Ed? Try me.
>
> > "Nope, you compared me to TM. I urge you to find out for yourself how we
> > differ. Before you are done with TM, you will be wishing for the return of
> > the two Eds (Ed Gin and Ed Dolan)!" - Ed Dolan
> >>> Diversion duly noted. Copy and paste repetition is a sign of laziness
>
> and lack of intelligence. You deliberately have avoided advancing the
> discussion ... something you accuse others of but something of which
> you are a master. Oh, and yes ... I did compare you to TM and
> apparently that disturbed you greatly, I said that in some ways you
> were similar and indicated in which way. I also indicated that in
> other ways, you were distinctly different, a credit to TM. I see no
> need to insult the guy by saying he is like you in every respect.
> Thankfully he is not. Since you have made it painfully obvious that
> you have nothing left to offer in the way of discussion, I think we
> are done here.
>
> We are only done when I say we are done.
>
> Copy and paste works with you better than most because all you know how to
> do is plow the same old ground. That is all you ever did with Ed Gin too. If
> and when you want to move on, you will find me receptive.

Objectivity has nver been your strong suit. You have been plowing the
same old ground, year after year and as usual accuse me of doing
precisely what you do, once again illustrating at work the coping (ego
defense) mechanism ... PROJECTION. You rarely move a conversation
forward and accuse others of being at fault for not doing so. I refer
you to what I said above concerning PROJECTION. "Receptive" and you
should never be used in the same sentence.

One real significant difference between you and I is obvious. I
engage people in dialogue, whereas you engage people in monologue. I
"talk" TO people, whereas you "talk" AT people. I convey,
whereas you lecture. I communicate, whereas you pontificate. I
accept the notion that some will listen and take things on board and
some will not, whereas you do not. You demand that everyone listen
and take things on board, with no exception. I accept the possibility
of a difference of opinion, whereas you do not. You are a man in need
of an attitude adjustment. It is always all about you and the hell
with everyone else. This is not a character trait so much as a
character flaw. A reasonable man adapts himself to the world whereas
an unreasonable man attempts to adapt the world to himself. You are
most certainly the latter.

As concerns being done with this "discussion", you can neither dictate
the terms of engagement nor its conclusion. If I decide I am done,
what you have to say in this regard is of no particular consequence.
In effect you've just been told to bugger off, in case you missed my
none too subtle meaning.

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:03 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:25ba0967-8ee9-456a-98b7-6390ed42b4fb@j2g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 3:57 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> Copy and paste works with you better than most because all you know how to
> do is plow the same old ground. That is all you ever did with Ed Gin too.
> If
> and when you want to move on, you will find me receptive.

>> Objectivity has nver been your strong suit. You have been plowing the
same old ground, year after year and as usual accuse me of doing
precisely what you do, once again illustrating at work the coping (ego
defense) mechanism ... PROJECTION. You rarely move a conversation
forward and accuse others of being at fault for not doing so. I refer
you to what I said above concerning PROJECTION. "Receptive" and you
should never be used in the same sentence.

We are in a contest to see who can be the most stubborn. Since I have got
you down for a stalker, you will never win this contest because I regard
stalkers on the level of trolls and spammers. I do not know how anyone ever
sinks that low. You should take a cue from Tom Sherman. We have had quite a
few severe disagreements, yet I do not stalk him and he does not stalk me.
Try to grow up if that is possible.

>> One real significant difference between you and I [me] is obvious. I
engage people in dialogue, whereas you engage people in monologue. I
"talk" TO people, whereas you "talk" AT people. I convey,
whereas you lecture. I communicate, whereas you pontificate.

I will talk to people who talk back, but I will not talk to a stalker like
you. You are a disgrace to Usenet. I am not interested in anyone ever to
stalk. I just tell them to go fuck themselves and that is the end of it for
me. That is what you should have done to Ed Gin as I advised, but you had
not the wit nor wisdom to appreciate my advice. Moreover, you did not even
want to listen to what I had to say about the matter. Talk about closed
minds! You are the world's worst communicator.

>> I accept the notion that some will listen and take things on board and
some will not, whereas you do not. You demand that everyone listen
and take things on board, with no exception. I accept the possibility
of a difference of opinion, whereas you do not.

I will admit I do not have much patience with those who hold wrongheaded
opinions. Tom Sherman learned this to his sorrow.

>> You are a man in need
of an attitude adjustment. It is always all about you and the hell
with everyone else. This is not a character trait so much as a
character flaw. A reasonable man adapts himself to the world whereas
an unreasonable man attempts to adapt the world to himself. You are
most certainly the latter.

I see where others are coming from. Unlike you, I do not care about being
agreed with or disagreed with. I am my own man and I could care less about
what others think. However, I am subject to persuasion by superior argument,
but I have yet to find it on Usenet.

>> As concerns being done with this "discussion", you can neither dictate
the terms of engagement nor its conclusion. If I decide I am done,
what you have to say in this regard is of no particular consequence.
In effect you've just been told to bugger off, in case you missed my
none too subtle meaning.

You can stop stalking me any time you want and I assure you no one else on
these newsgroups will ever miss you. Unlike you, I find plenty of others to
engage in interesting discussions.

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:03 am
From: Tom Sherman °_°

On 9/18/2010 7:31 AM, JimmyMac aka Jim McNamara wrote:
> [...]
> In effect you've just been told to bugger off, in case you missed my
> none too subtle meaning.
>
See <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbrzZWLu6Qw>.

NB: Contains rude language.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:20 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i72dao$h9l$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/18/2010 7:31 AM, JimmyMac aka Jim McNamara wrote:
>> [...]
>> In effect you've just been told to bugger off, in case you missed my
>> none too subtle meaning.
>>
> See <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbrzZWLu6Qw>.
>
> NB: Contains rude language.

Low class Irish culture is the worst in the world and Irish drinking songs
are the pits. I am lace curtain Irish and want nothing to do with the dregs
of that abominable culture. Like James Joyce, anyone of intelligence could
not get out of Ireland fast enough.

The popular Irish song and dance that is imported to this country is a
disgrace. I literally run from it as I would the Devil. Sometimes I am
embarrassed to be of Irish ancestry.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 2:06 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f12be5b9-7772-40dd-8b18-b3d1882dd47f@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 17, 1:39 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> "There is all kinds of spam." - Ed Dolan

>> According to you, but not the masses who recognize SPAM for what it is
and what it is not. You are not SPAMing TM. What you are doing is
merely inserting your copy and paste boilerplate into his post and
that is an indication that you read his post, take issue with his post
and care enough to devote the time to respond. You are dancing to his
music no matter what you have to say in the matter and to think you
label as idiots that reply exempting yourself. The conundrum
continues.

All I do is read the subject heading of TM's posts. It is always the same
old subject with the same old idiotic message. Since that is all it is, copy
and paste is quite appropriate. I consider all of it nothing but spam. TM is
too god damn fucking stupid to ever be a troll. I mean to step on his posts
for all eternity until he learns to cease his spamming.

> > > Regards,
>
> > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > aka
> > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 5:06 am
From: JimmyMac

On Sep 18, 4:06 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f12be5b9-7772-40dd-8b18-b3d1882dd47f@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 17, 1:39 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > "There is all kinds of spam." - Ed Dolan
> >> According to you, but not the masses who recognize SPAM for what it is
>
> and what it is not. You are not SPAMing TM. What you are doing is
> merely inserting your copy and paste boilerplate into his post and
> that is an indication that you read his post, take issue with his post
> and care enough to devote the time to respond. You are dancing to his
> music no matter what you have to say in the matter and to think you
> label as idiots that reply exempting yourself. The conundrum
> continues.
>
> All I do is read the subject heading of TM's posts. It is always the same
> old subject with the same old idiotic message.

Responded to with the same old copy and paste, idiotic bolerplate
riposte and that somehow is better???

> Since that is all it is, copy
> and paste is quite appropriate. I consider all of it nothing but spam. TM is
> too god damn fucking stupid to ever be a troll. I mean to step on his posts
> for all eternity until he learns to cease his spamming.

Good luck with that.

> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:24 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ef1569bb-6391-4f66-86c5-c68c248c965a@y3g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 4:06 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f12be5b9-7772-40dd-8b18-b3d1882dd47f@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 17, 1:39 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > "There is all kinds of spam." - Ed Dolan
>
> >> According to you, but not the masses who recognize SPAM for what it is
> and what it is not. You are not SPAMing TM. What you are doing is
> merely inserting your copy and paste boilerplate into his post and
> that is an indication that you read his post, take issue with his post
> and care enough to devote the time to respond. You are dancing to his
> music no matter what you have to say in the matter and to think you
> label as idiots that reply exempting yourself. The conundrum
> continues.
>
> All I do is read the subject heading of TM's posts. It is always the same
> old subject with the same old idiotic message.

>>> Responded to with the same old copy and paste, idiotic bolerplate
riposte and that somehow is better???

I am fighting spam with spam. What makes more sense than that? Unlike you,
I do not waste time and effort on morons.

> Since that is all it is, copy
> and paste is quite appropriate. I consider all of it nothing but spam. TM
> is
> too god damn fucking stupid to ever be a troll. I mean to step on his
> posts
> for all eternity until he learns to cease his spamming.

>>> Good luck with that.

Nothing is easier than copy and paste.

> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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TOPIC: Cancelling CompuServe - Gonna Have Issues?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 4:11 am
From: zeez

Demand Compu$erve (damn, these bozos still exist?!) to cancel the
account. I would also consider changing banks scince yours seems to be
in bed with companies and does not give a rats ass about you. You
should always be able to stop a company from leeching off of your
account. If the bank or credit card company is being an ass about
this, ditch them.

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TOPIC: Read This! - - Phase Coherence is the reason for the binding attractive
force in ALL the 4 fundamental forces, Proof of this is in the following:
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:52 am
From: fitz

Read This! - - Phase Coherence is the reason for the binding
attractive force in ALL the 4 fundamental forces, Proof of this is in
the following:

Our space is built up by the average amount elements are out of phase
with each other.

Repulsive forces are generated between elements that are out of phase
more than this average.

While elements more in phase, than this average (phase coherence),
produce attractive forces.

http://www.amperefitz.com/phase.coherence.htm

Click link above -- Science!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 7:29 am
From: kunjal

See Hot Sexy Star Angelina Jolie Sex Videos At http://easycatch.tk

Due to high sex content, i have hidden the videos in an image.
in that website on Right side below search box click on image and
watch videos in all angles.

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TOPIC: Property Tax Surprise.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b7d8ad31e613e261?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 3:23 pm
From: Dan Birchall

Napoleon wrote:
> Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote:
> > I appealed my property taxes last year and just got the new bill.
> > Last year it was ~$1,400. This year, $33.43. Take that OhioGuy!

> I recommend that everyone appeal their tax assessments, just to see
> what a fucked up world this is.

I'm not appealing, since the $25/year I pay is the minimum allowable by
law in this part of Hawaii. :)

--
"If you like to stand on your head and spit pickles in the snow, on the
Internet there are at least three other people just like you."
- Langston James Goree VI

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TOPIC: when insurance savings isn't savings at all
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 3:31 pm
From: Dan Birchall

none@none.net (Ohioguy) wrote:
> What did I get in the mail? A policy that would have us paying a
> HIGHER amount. 9% more, to be exact. Where did the savings go? Our
> neighbor has exactly the same house, built a few months later.

A couple decades ago, I was a programmer at a company that sold software
to calculate insurance premiums.

Is the agent proposing the exact same coverages your neighbor has on
their house? Do you have the exact same model and year of car, driven
a comparable amount, with drivers of comparable ages and genders? (You
mentioned that you've got some kids; if they're driving, they probably
cost more.) Do you both have the same pluses insurers look for (smoke
alarms? fire extinguishers? non-smokers?)

If the answer to all these questions is yes, then I would guess that
they've gotten a break for being long-time customers, or something.

But I'd bet lunch that the answer to all those questions _isn't_ yes. :)

-Dan

--
"If you like to stand on your head and spit pickles in the snow, on the
Internet there are at least three other people just like you."
- Langston James Goree VI

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