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* IT`S TOO HOT GURU - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Is the Revolution coming to the UK? Thousands crowd central London - 11
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* I'm having fantasies about Mary Magdalene --prostitution evil? - 2 messages,
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* "Smart" meter stories - 1 messages, 1 author
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True Religion Jeans and so on <free shipping paypal payment> (http://www.24
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TOPIC: IT`S TOO HOT GURU
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 26 2011 11:04 pm
From: RHANI

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TOPIC: Is the Revolution coming to the UK? Thousands crowd central London
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 6:50 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> party".

That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
gas.

They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
borrowing from China.

== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 7:22 am
From: Derek C

On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> > party".
>
> That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> gas.
>
> They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?

== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 7:56 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 27, 10:22 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > > > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > > > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > > > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > > > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > > > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > > > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > > > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > > > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > > There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> > > party".
>
> > That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> > gas.
>
> > They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> > borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?

Your "rebellion boiling point" is 8 bucks the litre of "petrol."

Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?

== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 8:10 am
From: Derek C

On Mar 27, 3:56 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 10:22 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > > > > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > > > > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > > > > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > > > > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > > > > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > > > > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > > > > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > > > > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > > > There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> > > > party".
>
> > > That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> > > gas.
>
> > > They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> > > borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?
>
> Your "rebellion boiling point" is 8 bucks the litre of "petrol."
>
> Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?-
>

Why haven't the Yanks converted to SI units yet, which nearly every
other country in the world use?

== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 8:17 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 27, 11:10 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 3:56 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 10:22 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > > > > > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > > > > > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > > > > > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > > > > > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > > > > > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > > > > > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > > > > > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > > > > > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> > > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > > > > There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> > > > > party".
>
> > > > That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> > > > gas.
>
> > > > They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> > > > borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?
>
> > Your "rebellion boiling point" is 8 bucks the litre of "petrol."
>
> > Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?-
>
> Why haven't the Yanks converted to SI units yet, which nearly every
> other country in the world use?

Yep, it's a pain in the arse when looking for a tool for the bike, but
I think our system is blessed by God. Things are the way they are,
period.

I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.

== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 8:33 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.

1982
"President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
Commerce."

Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.

Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
But are they metric or standard?

== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 8:50 am
From: Derek C

On Mar 27, 4:17 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 11:10 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 3:56 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 27, 10:22 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > > > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > > > > > > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > > > > > > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > > > > > > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > > > > > > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > > > > > > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > > > > > > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > > > > > > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > > > > > > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> > > > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > > > > > There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> > > > > > party".
>
> > > > > That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> > > > > gas.
>
> > > > > They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> > > > > borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?
>
> > > Your "rebellion boiling point" is 8 bucks the litre of "petrol."
>
> > > Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?-
>
> > Why haven't the Yanks converted to SI units yet, which nearly every
> > other country in the world use?
>
> Yep, it's a pain in the arse when looking for a tool for the bike, but
> I think our system is blessed by God. Things are the way they are,
> period.
>
> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You don't even have proper gallons in the US, as they are only about
83% of the volume of a UK Imperial Gallon! Makes the gas guzzling mpg
figures of a V8 SUV seem even more impressive!

== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 9:10 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 27, 11:50 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 4:17 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 11:10 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 27, 3:56 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 27, 10:22 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> > > > > > > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
> > > > > > > > have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
> > > > > > > > entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
> > > > > > > > the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.
>
> > > > > > > > And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.
>
> > > > > > > > LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
> > > > > > > > into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
> > > > > > > > cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
> > > > > > > > breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.
>
> > > > > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest
>
> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > > > > > > There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> > > > > > > party".
>
> > > > > > That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> > > > > > gas.
>
> > > > > > They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> > > > > > borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?
>
> > > > Your "rebellion boiling point" is 8 bucks the litre of "petrol."
>
> > > > Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?-
>
> > > Why haven't the Yanks converted to SI units yet, which nearly every
> > > other country in the world use?
>
> > Yep, it's a pain in the arse when looking for a tool for the bike, but
> > I think our system is blessed by God. Things are the way they are,
> > period.
>
> > I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You don't even have proper gallons in the US, as they are only about
> 83% of the volume of a UK Imperial Gallon! Makes the gas guzzling mpg
> figures of a V8 SUV seem even more impressive!

What better way for America not to be part of the British Empire to
renounce the Imperial Gallon. I don't know, but it seems like many
Americans would think of the metric system as one world government
(socialism).

Some question that view though:

On Mar 27, 11:53 am, Dänk 666 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 9:36 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> > Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.
>
> > 1982
> > "President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
> > canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
> > transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
> > Commerce."
>
> > Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
> > to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.
>
> > Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
> > But are they metric or standard?
>
> Of course U.S. weapons are designed using the metric system, since the
> math of physics is impossible without it. I'm an American who loves
> metric and even uses it when cooking, and I seem to be the only one
> who prefers 24-hour time as well. However, my preference for metric
> didn't cost me or the taxpayers one cent.
>
> Some customary non-metric measurements remain, especially miles, since
> most U.S. cities are laid out using miles (i.e., one mile between
> major streets, ten blocks and minor streets in between). And
> Fahrenheit for temperature, since almost all appliances like ovens use
> it. It's easy enough to convert these units to metric when needed, so
> a government program to force the change is unnecessary and a waste of
> money.
>
> - - - -
>
> http://www.theonion.com/articles/metric-system-thriving-in-nations-in...
>
> Metric system thriving in nation's inner cities
>
> WASHINGTON, DC -- Despite other academic shortcomings, inner-city
> youths possess a firmer grasp of the metric system than their peers in
> suburban and rural areas, according to a Department Of Education study
> released Monday.
>
> "While the typical teen has only a vague notion of what a kilogram is,
> teens in the Cabrini Green housing projects in Chicago and the Watts
> neighborhood of Los Angeles were thoroughly familiar with this unit of
> metric measurement," said Ira Danielson, the researcher who
> spearheaded the study. "They were able to identify a kilogram of
> weight by merely tossing it back and forth in their hands."
>
> According to Danielson, young people in America's urban centers are so
> familiar with the kilogram that they have developed a system of
> abbreviations for the measurement, such as "kilo" or even
> "ki" (pronounced key).
>
> "Most of the teens, even those reading at a fourth-grade level, were
> familiar with the gram as a base unit that can be either compounded or
> divided," Danielson said. "Finally, here's an area where at-risk urban
> youths can really shine."
>
> In addition to their expertise with grams, urban youths proved
> knowledgeable about other metric units, including the millimeter,
> cubic centimeter, and liter.
>
> "They were surprisingly familiar with metric measurements in the
> medical field, aware that liters of blood are used in an emergency
> room and that certain medications are injected in cc's or mls,"
> Danielson said. "They also knew a great deal about ounces, but we
> preferred to focus on their metric expertise."
>
> In a follow-up study titled "Metric Skills Among The Economically
> Disadvantaged," Danielson and his team of researchers discovered that
> not only did the youths score higher in metric knowledge than any
> other demographic, but many could also distinguish among the smallest
> variations in size and amount.
>
> A Presidential Award For Metric Achievement hangs in an area of
> Detroit renowned for its metric use.
>
> In one test, subjects were asked to follow a recipe for "metric-weight
> chocolate-chip Cookies." Researchers found that the teens had a
> natural ability to estimate measurements of sugar, flour, and baking
> powder without using any measuring tools. When the use of a balance
> scale was required, the teens knew exactly how to operate it.
>
> "Y'all need 500 grams of flour," said Erick Boykins, a 16-year-old
> study participant from Newark, NJ, scraping out a small pile of flour
> with a razor. "That's half a kilo right there. Now the recipe says we
> gotta cut it with 200 g's of sugar."
>
> After combining all the ingredients, Boykins deftly divided the dough
> into 50 lumps of cookie dough almost identical in weight.
>
> The cookie test was cut short by the disappearance of 25 scales, but
> results are still being called "conclusive."
>
> "The youths seem to have some large blind spots in their knowledge,"
> Danielson said. "For example, they know millimeters very well and can
> distinguish between something that's 9mm wide and something 7.62mm
> wide, but for some reason, not one of the teens had ever heard of a
> hectare. And though they know how much volume a cc represents, none
> knew it stood for cubic centimeter."

So Reagan --and the Conservative psyche-- seems to have been very dumb
to miss that opportunity. We can still make it happen, right?

Obama is not in a position to defend that though. He'll be eaten alive.

== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 9:33 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 27, 12:16 pm, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> On 3/27/11 11:53 AM, D nk 666 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 9:36 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> > Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.
>
> >> 1982
> >> "President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
> >> canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
> >> transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
> >> Commerce."
>
> >> Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
> >> to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.
>
> >> Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
> >> But are they metric or standard?
>
> > Of course U.S. weapons are designed using the metric system, since the
> > math of physics is impossible without it.
>
> Really? How about all the cars that were developed using the US system
> (inches, pounds, etc.)? How about how computer chips were developed
> using the spacing between pins as 1/10"? While it is much more
> convenient to use the metric system, it is clearly possible to do
> physics with the US system or any other system of measurements.
>
> > I'm an American who loves
> > metric and even uses it when cooking, and I seem to be the only one
> > who prefers 24-hour time as well.
>
> I prefer 24-hour time, too.
>
> > However, my preference for metric
> > didn't cost me or the taxpayers one cent.
>
> Actually, if everyone used only the metric system (except for yard
> measurements in American football - I mean is has a US system unit for
> distance in its name), it would really simplify things for everyone. No
> more pesky conversions between US and metric.
>
> > Some customary non-metric measurements remain, especially miles, since
> > most U.S. cities are laid out using miles (i.e., one mile between
> > major streets, ten blocks and minor streets in between). And
> > Fahrenheit for temperature, since almost all appliances like ovens use
> > it. It's easy enough to convert these units to metric when needed, so
> > a government program to force the change is unnecessary and a waste of
> > money.
>
> Well, at least when it comes to money, money is metric: 100 cents = $1.
> The only common things in the US that is in the metric system when there
> is an American system alternative that are commonly used are the sizes
> of drinks (like 750 ml bottles of wine and 2000 ml bottles of soda).
> People don't say they are 185 cm; they say they are 6 foot 1 inch. And
> people don't say they weight 1024 newtons; instead they say they weigh
> 229 pounds.
>
> Jeff
>
> > - - - -
>
> >http://www.theonion.com/articles/metric-system-thriving-in-nations-in...
>
> > Metric system thriving in nation's inner cities
>
> > WASHINGTON, DC -- Despite other academic shortcomings, inner-city
> > youths possess a firmer grasp of the metric system than their peers in
> > suburban and rural areas, according to a Department Of Education study
> > released Monday.
>
> > "While the typical teen has only a vague notion of what a kilogram is,
> > teens in the Cabrini Green housing projects in Chicago and the Watts
> > neighborhood of Los Angeles were thoroughly familiar with this unit of
> > metric measurement," said Ira Danielson, the researcher who
> > spearheaded the study. "They were able to identify a kilogram of
> > weight by merely tossing it back and forth in their hands."
>
> > According to Danielson, young people in America's urban centers are so
> > familiar with the kilogram that they have developed a system of
> > abbreviations for the measurement, such as "kilo" or even
> > "ki" (pronounced key).
>
> > "Most of the teens, even those reading at a fourth-grade level, were
> > familiar with the gram as a base unit that can be either compounded or
> > divided," Danielson said. "Finally, here's an area where at-risk urban
> > youths can really shine."
>
> > In addition to their expertise with grams, urban youths proved
> > knowledgeable about other metric units, including the millimeter,
> > cubic centimeter, and liter.
>
> > "They were surprisingly familiar with metric measurements in the
> > medical field, aware that liters of blood are used in an emergency
> > room and that certain medications are injected in cc's or mls,"
> > Danielson said. "They also knew a great deal about ounces, but we
> > preferred to focus on their metric expertise."
>
> > In a follow-up study titled "Metric Skills Among The Economically
> > Disadvantaged," Danielson and his team of researchers discovered that
> > not only did the youths score higher in metric knowledge than any
> > other demographic, but many could also distinguish among the smallest
> > variations in size and amount.
>
> > A Presidential Award For Metric Achievement hangs in an area of
> > Detroit renowned for its metric use.
>
> > In one test, subjects were asked to follow a recipe for "metric-weight
> > chocolate-chip Cookies." Researchers found that the teens had a
> > natural ability to estimate measurements of sugar, flour, and baking
> > powder without using any measuring tools. When the use of a balance
> > scale was required, the teens knew exactly how to operate it.
>
> > "Y'all need 500 grams of flour," said Erick Boykins, a 16-year-old
> > study participant from Newark, NJ, scraping out a small pile of flour
> > with a razor. "That's half a kilo right there. Now the recipe says we
> > gotta cut it with 200 g's of sugar."
>
> > After combining all the ingredients, Boykins deftly divided the dough
> > into 50 lumps of cookie dough almost identical in weight.
>
> > The cookie test was cut short by the disappearance of 25 scales, but
> > results are still being called "conclusive."
>
> > "The youths seem to have some large blind spots in their knowledge,"
> > Danielson said. "For example, they know millimeters very well and can
> > distinguish between something that's 9mm wide and something 7.62mm
> > wide, but for some reason, not one of the teens had ever heard of a
> > hectare. And though they know how much volume a cc represents, none
> > knew it stood for cubic centimeter."

The most common system for nuclear missiles though seems to be metric:

"The kiloton and megaton of TNT have traditionally been used to rate
the energy output, and hence destructive power, of nuclear weapons
(see nuclear weapon yield). This unit is written into various nuclear
weapon control treaties, and gives a sense of destructiveness as
compared with ordinary explosives, like TNT."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent

So in that sense the Conservatives are up to date.

== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 9:53 am
From: Derek C

On Mar 27, 5:33 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 12:16 pm, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3/27/11 11:53 AM, D nk 666 wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 27, 9:36 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> > > Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> > >> Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.
>
> > >> 1982
> > >> "President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
> > >> canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
> > >> transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
> > >> Commerce."
>
> > >> Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
> > >> to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.
>
> > >> Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
> > >> But are they metric or standard?
>
> > > Of course U.S. weapons are designed using the metric system, since the
> > > math of physics is impossible without it.
>
> > Really? How about all the cars that were developed using the US system
> > (inches, pounds, etc.)? How about how computer chips were developed
> > using the spacing between pins as 1/10"? While it is much more
> > convenient to use the metric system, it is clearly possible to do
> > physics with the US system or any other system of measurements.
>
> > > I'm an American who loves
> > > metric and even uses it when cooking, and I seem to be the only one
> > > who prefers 24-hour time as well.
>
> > I prefer 24-hour time, too.
>
> > > However, my preference for metric
> > > didn't cost me or the taxpayers one cent.
>
> > Actually, if everyone used only the metric system (except for yard
> > measurements in American football - I mean is has a US system unit for
> > distance in its name), it would really simplify things for everyone. No
> > more pesky conversions between US and metric.
>
> > > Some customary non-metric measurements remain, especially miles, since
> > > most U.S. cities are laid out using miles (i.e., one mile between
> > > major streets, ten blocks and minor streets in between). And
> > > Fahrenheit for temperature, since almost all appliances like ovens use
> > > it. It's easy enough to convert these units to metric when needed, so
> > > a government program to force the change is unnecessary and a waste of
> > > money.
>
> > Well, at least when it comes to money, money is metric: 100 cents = $1.
> > The only common things in the US that is in the metric system when there
> > is an American system alternative that are commonly used are the sizes
> > of drinks (like 750 ml bottles of wine and 2000 ml bottles of soda).
> > People don't say they are 185 cm; they say they are 6 foot 1 inch. And
> > people don't say they weight 1024 newtons; instead they say they weigh
> > 229 pounds.
>
> > Jeff
>
> > > - - - -
>
> > >http://www.theonion.com/articles/metric-system-thriving-in-nations-in...
>
> > > Metric system thriving in nation's inner cities
>
> > > WASHINGTON, DC -- Despite other academic shortcomings, inner-city
> > > youths possess a firmer grasp of the metric system than their peers in
> > > suburban and rural areas, according to a Department Of Education study
> > > released Monday.
>
> > > "While the typical teen has only a vague notion of what a kilogram is,
> > > teens in the Cabrini Green housing projects in Chicago and the Watts
> > > neighborhood of Los Angeles were thoroughly familiar with this unit of
> > > metric measurement," said Ira Danielson, the researcher who
> > > spearheaded the study. "They were able to identify a kilogram of
> > > weight by merely tossing it back and forth in their hands."
>
> > > According to Danielson, young people in America's urban centers are so
> > > familiar with the kilogram that they have developed a system of
> > > abbreviations for the measurement, such as "kilo" or even
> > > "ki" (pronounced key).
>
> > > "Most of the teens, even those reading at a fourth-grade level, were
> > > familiar with the gram as a base unit that can be either compounded or
> > > divided," Danielson said. "Finally, here's an area where at-risk urban
> > > youths can really shine."
>
> > > In addition to their expertise with grams, urban youths proved
> > > knowledgeable about other metric units, including the millimeter,
> > > cubic centimeter, and liter.
>
> > > "They were surprisingly familiar with metric measurements in the
> > > medical field, aware that liters of blood are used in an emergency
> > > room and that certain medications are injected in cc's or mls,"
> > > Danielson said. "They also knew a great deal about ounces, but we
> > > preferred to focus on their metric expertise."
>
> > > In a follow-up study titled "Metric Skills Among The Economically
> > > Disadvantaged," Danielson and his team of researchers discovered that
> > > not only did the youths score higher in metric knowledge than any
> > > other demographic, but many could also distinguish among the smallest
> > > variations in size and amount.
>
> > > A Presidential Award For Metric Achievement hangs in an area of
> > > Detroit renowned for its metric use.
>
> > > In one test, subjects were asked to follow a recipe for "metric-weight
> > > chocolate-chip Cookies." Researchers found that the teens had a
> > > natural ability to estimate measurements of sugar, flour, and baking
> > > powder without using any measuring tools. When the use of a balance
> > > scale was required, the teens knew exactly how to operate it.
>
> > > "Y'all need 500 grams of flour," said Erick Boykins, a 16-year-old
> > > study participant from Newark, NJ, scraping out a small pile of flour
> > > with a razor. "That's half a kilo right there. Now the recipe says we
> > > gotta cut it with 200 g's of sugar."
>
> > > After combining all the ingredients, Boykins deftly divided the dough
> > > into 50 lumps of cookie dough almost identical in weight.
>
> > > The cookie test was cut short by the disappearance of 25 scales, but
> > > results are still being called "conclusive."
>
> > > "The youths seem to have some large blind spots in their knowledge,"
> > > Danielson said. "For example, they know millimeters very well and can
> > > distinguish between something that's 9mm wide and something 7.62mm
> > > wide, but for some reason, not one of the teens had ever heard of a
> > > hectare. And though they know how much volume a cc represents, none
> > > knew it stood for cubic centimeter."
>
> The most common system for nuclear missiles though seems to be metric:
>
> "The kiloton and megaton of TNT have traditionally been used to rate
> the energy output, and hence destructive power, of nuclear weapons
> (see nuclear weapon yield). This unit is written into various nuclear
> weapon control treaties, and gives a sense of destructiveness as
> compared with ordinary explosives, like TNT."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent
>
> So in that sense the Conservatives are up to date.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Metric and Imperial tons are only about 2% different by a happy
accident of history, so no need to worry about kilotons and megatons.

== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 8:31 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

On Mar 27, 12:53 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 5:33 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 12:16 pm, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > On 3/27/11 11:53 AM, D nk 666 wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 27, 9:36 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> > > > Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> > > >> Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.
>
> > > >> 1982
> > > >> "President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
> > > >> canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
> > > >> transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
> > > >> Commerce."
>
> > > >> Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
> > > >> to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.
>
> > > >> Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
> > > >> But are they metric or standard?
>
> > > > Of course U.S. weapons are designed using the metric system, since the
> > > > math of physics is impossible without it.
>
> > > Really? How about all the cars that were developed using the US system
> > > (inches, pounds, etc.)? How about how computer chips were developed
> > > using the spacing between pins as 1/10"? While it is much more
> > > convenient to use the metric system, it is clearly possible to do
> > > physics with the US system or any other system of measurements.
>
> > > > I'm an American who loves
> > > > metric and even uses it when cooking, and I seem to be the only one
> > > > who prefers 24-hour time as well.
>
> > > I prefer 24-hour time, too.
>
> > > > However, my preference for metric
> > > > didn't cost me or the taxpayers one cent.
>
> > > Actually, if everyone used only the metric system (except for yard
> > > measurements in American football - I mean is has a US system unit for
> > > distance in its name), it would really simplify things for everyone. No
> > > more pesky conversions between US and metric.
>
> > > > Some customary non-metric measurements remain, especially miles, since
> > > > most U.S. cities are laid out using miles (i.e., one mile between
> > > > major streets, ten blocks and minor streets in between). And
> > > > Fahrenheit for temperature, since almost all appliances like ovens use
> > > > it. It's easy enough to convert these units to metric when needed, so
> > > > a government program to force the change is unnecessary and a waste of
> > > > money.
>
> > > Well, at least when it comes to money, money is metric: 100 cents = $1.
> > > The only common things in the US that is in the metric system when there
> > > is an American system alternative that are commonly used are the sizes
> > > of drinks (like 750 ml bottles of wine and 2000 ml bottles of soda).
> > > People don't say they are 185 cm; they say they are 6 foot 1 inch. And
> > > people don't say they weight 1024 newtons; instead they say they weigh
> > > 229 pounds.
>
> > > Jeff
>
> > > > - - - -
>
> > > >http://www.theonion.com/articles/metric-system-thriving-in-nations-in...
>
> > > > Metric system thriving in nation's inner cities
>
> > > > WASHINGTON, DC -- Despite other academic shortcomings, inner-city
> > > > youths possess a firmer grasp of the metric system than their peers in
> > > > suburban and rural areas, according to a Department Of Education study
> > > > released Monday.
>
> > > > "While the typical teen has only a vague notion of what a kilogram is,
> > > > teens in the Cabrini Green housing projects in Chicago and the Watts
> > > > neighborhood of Los Angeles were thoroughly familiar with this unit of
> > > > metric measurement," said Ira Danielson, the researcher who
> > > > spearheaded the study. "They were able to identify a kilogram of
> > > > weight by merely tossing it back and forth in their hands."
>
> > > > According to Danielson, young people in America's urban centers are so
> > > > familiar with the kilogram that they have developed a system of
> > > > abbreviations for the measurement, such as "kilo" or even
> > > > "ki" (pronounced key).
>
> > > > "Most of the teens, even those reading at a fourth-grade level, were
> > > > familiar with the gram as a base unit that can be either compounded or
> > > > divided," Danielson said. "Finally, here's an area where at-risk urban
> > > > youths can really shine."
>
> > > > In addition to their expertise with grams, urban youths proved
> > > > knowledgeable about other metric units, including the millimeter,
> > > > cubic centimeter, and liter.
>
> > > > "They were surprisingly familiar with metric measurements in the
> > > > medical field, aware that liters of blood are used in an emergency
> > > > room and that certain medications are injected in cc's or mls,"
> > > > Danielson said. "They also knew a great deal about ounces, but we
> > > > preferred to focus on their metric expertise."
>
> > > > In a follow-up study titled "Metric Skills Among The Economically
> > > > Disadvantaged," Danielson and his team of researchers discovered that
> > > > not only did the youths score higher in metric knowledge than any
> > > > other demographic, but many could also distinguish among the smallest
> > > > variations in size and amount.
>
> > > > A Presidential Award For Metric Achievement hangs in an area of
> > > > Detroit renowned for its metric use.
>
> > > > In one test, subjects were asked to follow a recipe for "metric-weight
> > > > chocolate-chip Cookies." Researchers found that the teens had a
> > > > natural ability to estimate measurements of sugar, flour, and baking
> > > > powder without using any measuring tools. When the use of a balance
> > > > scale was required, the teens knew exactly how to operate it.
>
> > > > "Y'all need 500 grams of flour," said Erick Boykins, a 16-year-old
> > > > study participant from Newark, NJ, scraping out a small pile of flour
> > > > with a razor. "That's half a kilo right there. Now the recipe says we
> > > > gotta cut it with 200 g's of sugar."
>
> > > > After combining all the ingredients, Boykins deftly divided the dough
> > > > into 50 lumps of cookie dough almost identical in weight.
>
> > > > The cookie test was cut short by the disappearance of 25 scales, but
> > > > results are still being called "conclusive."
>
> > > > "The youths seem to have some large blind spots in their knowledge,"
> > > > Danielson said. "For example, they know millimeters very well and can
> > > > distinguish between something that's 9mm wide and something 7.62mm
> > > > wide, but for some reason, not one of the teens had ever heard of a
> > > > hectare. And though they know how much volume a cc represents, none
> > > > knew it stood for cubic centimeter."
>
> > The most common system for nuclear missiles though seems to be metric:
>
> > "The kiloton and megaton of TNT have traditionally been used to rate
> > the energy output, and hence destructive power, of nuclear weapons
> > (see nuclear weapon yield). This unit is written into various nuclear
> > weapon control treaties, and gives a sense of destructiveness as
> > compared with ordinary explosives, like TNT."
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent
>
> > So in that sense the Conservatives are up to date.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Metric and Imperial tons are only about 2% different by a happy
> accident of history, so no need to worry about kilotons and megatons.

Since we are talking about big guns...

On Mar 27, 9:57 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:

> I dunno...do you own a 9mm or a .38?

The bananas are about an inch or 25.4 mm in diameter. I gave up the
gun...

http://amazon.commerceguys.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/banana-gun-9818.jpg

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 7:32 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

I'm not asking the Conservatives --like Ed-- to be converted to my
"movement" or wisdom, but it certainly works for most mortals:

On Mar 27, 7:54 am, "Rosie Lea" <S...@reborn.interbeing.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> "through breathing techniques and body positioning while making love, a
> couple can transcend the physical world and unite with one another in the
> metaphysical, spiritual world. This is achieved by the couple uniting their
> respective masculine and feminine energies and becoming One with the
> Universe."
>
> A peak of Samsara never the less, just more makio, though of course it could
> increase insight...
>
> Sounds like more fun than sitting dead still for hours at a time in a balck
> kimono being occasionnaly bashed with stick for snoozing :D

This could NOT be coincidence: SLOW RHYTHMIC MOVEMENT (hammock, beach
cruiser, tantric love) gives you ecstasy and wisdom.

Lady signals monkey to enter the jungle. ;)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 7:53 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

Sorry, but I just had this inspiration:

'Drivers are inclined to "quickies" and are missing the slow rhythmic
movement'

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 10:05 am
From: Foo Fighter

http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2292
How about going solar? wind or geo-thermal?
--
Karma, What a concept!

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 10:05 am
From: Foo Fighter

In article <georgeswk-0419F7.18574518032011@news.toast.net>,
Karen Silkwood <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:

> We wouldn't need nuke power plants or Wars for Oil.
> Wouldn't that be a better world? New research could make the panels
> cheap. They could heat water or air, even make electricity.
> and Karen would still be with us.

and ; got a smart meter story?
http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2292
How about going solar? wind or geo-thermal?
--
Karma, What a concept!

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 12:08 pm
From: Foo Fighter

In article <georgeswk-D6CE2E.10054227032011@news.toast.net>,
Foo Fighter <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:

> In article <georgeswk-0419F7.18574518032011@news.toast.net>,
> Karen Silkwood <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
>
> > We wouldn't need nuke power plants or Wars for Oil.
> > Wouldn't that be a better world? New research could make the panels
> > cheap. They could heat water or air, even make electricity.
> > and Karen would still be with us.
>
> and ; got a smart meter story?
> http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2292
> How about going solar? wind or geo-thermal?

and here the latest on Solar
According to Lusk, "We can now design nanostructured materials that
generate more than one exciton from a single photon of light, putting to
good use a large portion of the energy that would otherwise just heat up
a solar cell."
The research team, which includes participation from the National
Renewable Energy Laboratory, is part of the NSF-funded Renewable Energy
Materials Research Science and Engineering Center at the Colorado School
of Mines in Golden, Colo. The center focuses on materials and
innovations that will significantly impact renewable energy
technologies. Harnessing the unique properties of nanostructured
materials to enhance the performance of solar panels is an area of
particular interest to the center.
"These results are exciting because they go far towards resolving a
long-standing debate within the field," said Mary Galvin, a program
director for the Division of Materials Research at NSF. "Equally
important, they will contribute to establishment of new design
techniques that can be used to make more efficient solar cells."
fo mo;
http://theenergycollective.com/mikegregory1/54515/smaller-particle-size-c
ould-make-solar-panels-more-efficient
--
Karma, What a concept!

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 1:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Get back to us when someone has actually done it commercially and not just waffled about it.

Foo Fighter wrote:
> In article <georgeswk-D6CE2E.10054227032011@news.toast.net>,
> Foo Fighter <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <georgeswk-0419F7.18574518032011@news.toast.net>,
>> Karen Silkwood <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We wouldn't need nuke power plants or Wars for Oil.
>>> Wouldn't that be a better world? New research could make the panels
>>> cheap. They could heat water or air, even make electricity.
>>> and Karen would still be with us.
>>
>> and ; got a smart meter story?
>> http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2292
>> How about going solar? wind or geo-thermal?
>
> and here the latest on Solar
> According to Lusk, "We can now design nanostructured materials that
> generate more than one exciton from a single photon of light, putting
> to good use a large portion of the energy that would otherwise just
> heat up a solar cell."
> The research team, which includes participation from the National
> Renewable Energy Laboratory, is part of the NSF-funded Renewable
> Energy Materials Research Science and Engineering Center at the
> Colorado School of Mines in Golden, Colo. The center focuses on
> materials and innovations that will significantly impact renewable
> energy technologies. Harnessing the unique properties of
> nanostructured materials to enhance the performance of solar panels
> is an area of particular interest to the center.
> "These results are exciting because they go far towards resolving a
> long-standing debate within the field," said Mary Galvin, a program
> director for the Division of Materials Research at NSF. "Equally
> important, they will contribute to establishment of new design
> techniques that can be used to make more efficient solar cells."
> fo mo;
> http://theenergycollective.com/mikegregory1/54515/smaller-particle-size-c
> ould-make-solar-panels-more-efficient

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 2:45 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article <8v9lhgFap1U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Get back to us when someone has actually done it commercially and not just
> waffled about it.

technology never sleeps

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 6:44 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> Get back to us when someone has actually done
>> it commercially and not just waffled about it.

> technology never sleeps

The technology involved in clay tablets has.

The technology involved in message sticks has.

The technology the Inka stone wall technology has.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Inka_mauern_cuzco.jpg

You've never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 9:58 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article <8va7fqF2f0U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> Get back to us when someone has actually done
> >> it commercially and not just waffled about it.
>
> > technology never sleeps
>
> The technology involved in clay tablets has.

of course it hasn't
>
> The technology involved in message sticks has.

of course it hasn't

>
> The technology the Inka stone wall technology has.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Inka_mauern_cuzco.jpg

of course it has

>
> You've never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

technology never sleeps

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 10:25 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 10:19 am
From: The Real Bev

On 03/26/11 20:34, Michael Black wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Mar 2011, aesthete8 wrote:
>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
> Get an MP3 player, figure out where the audio amplifier starts, and
> add microphones. It likely would be easier, more space, with a pocket
> AM/FM radio, but MP3 players are smaller these days.
>
> But there will be problems.
>
> A hearing aid is not just an amplifier (which is what you'll get if you
> $20 hearing aids out of the back of TV Guide or the flyer insert in the
> paper), it includes various bits of processing (so you can hear that weak
> sound outside, yet the stronger sound next to you won't overload your
> ears) and frequency compensation, to adjust the frequency response to
> match the decay of your hearing (it isn't a matter of losing sensitivity
> to sound, it's a matter of losing response to the higher frequencies, so
> you want a reverse slope rather than just lots of amplification).
>
> Hence one reason for seeing a doctor is so they do the test (or have
> the test arranged) to check your hearing to see how it plots, and then of
> course configure a hearing aid to match your level/quality of hearing
> loss.
>
> Until you grasp what's needed in order to get a proper hearing aid, you
> will not be making frugal decisions.

And even then you might end up wasting money on something you can't use.
My mom bought some of the expensive programmable ones. She went in
for several adjustments and they never found a setting that was less
annoying than her hearing problem (loss of high frequency). They're
still there sitting in the original box with the original batteries
(yes, swung out -- maybe I can use them when I grow up).

--
Cheers, Bev
======================================================
Guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 27 2011 1:58 pm
From: David Harmon

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:53:14 -0700 (PDT) in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6116@gmail.com>
wrote,
> Collect calls from prison can get pricey.

That is a deliberate rip-off. Can you say "captive audience"?

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