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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Fitted up 26/4/96 (153)
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Date: Sun, Aug 19 2007 10:50 pm
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: Re: MI5? Please can someone explain what's going on here?
Newsgroups: uk.misc
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David Stretch (dds@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <19960418.000817.55@hotch.hotch.demon.co.uk>,
: Iain L M Hotchkies <iain@hotch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >The (remote) possibility remains that 'Mike Corley' is either
: >not schizophrenic (but is 'pretending' to be so) or 'he' is
: >a product of a number of persons (?psychology students).

: Given other ways in which I have seen people exploit some of The Internet's
: capabilities to disrupt or indulge in sophistry, or to exploit a medium
: that resembles speech without the non-verbal and intonation cues, etc
: as a means of denigrating others, I question your use, albeit in quotes,
: of the word "remote". I'm not saying it isn't remote and therefore it is
: great, I'm just saying that I don't think we can easily classify it as
: remote, moderate, or great.

I think you can build up quite a good picture based on what someone says
and on their posting patterns. I don't think "The Internet" (capitals, no
less) is as opaque a medium as you make it out to be.

: It is not easy to determine the validity of all information on The
: Internet without making use of extra supplementary information.

: We do have the problem, pointed out by someone else, of the possibly
: "too perfect" textbook characteristics of what is being posted.

I explained that one, but I don't mind explaining it again (you don't
mind having it explained again to you, do you now?). The reason my
"symptoms" are such a perfect fit to the textbook is because the people
causing the campaign "fitted me up" in such a way that what they did
would resemble the symptoms of schizophrenia. Hence TV, radio, other
media, people in the streets etc. By a fortunate coincidence (for them)
these mthods of harassment are the ones which offer easiest channels of
access (for them).

It's really quite neat. All it takes is for people to start believing
that the "symptoms" aren't symptoms but reality, though, and the house of
cards collapses in a heap. And there are _lots_ of people now who knoiw
full well what has gone on.

: If harrassment by email, etc, has happened by someone out of the country,
: can a complaint be made that results in arrest or whatever upon that
: person's entry into the country? An interesting point which Mike may be
: able to inform us about, as he's said he will be in the UK in a few weeks
: time.

Picture the scene at the airport;
"I arrest you for being Mike Corley and mailbombing people"

"But my name isn't Corley. Who he? Mailbombing isn't illegal is it? You'd
have to lock up a lot of people if sending annoying email was a crime"

"Er....."

: --
: David Stretch: Greenwood Institute of Child Health, Univ. of Leicester, UK.
: dds@leicester.ac.uk Phone:+44 (0)116-254-6100 Fax:+44 (0)116-254-4127
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: context-free parts of articles, conversations and things-on-the-TV and
: assume they are meant for you. Mike, this is called paranoia.

But that's the way real abuse works, too. People interject words and
phrases into what they say which they know will have meaning for the listener.

And sometimes, they make it obvious. The very first evening of my job in
Oxford, we went for a drink with the technical director, and a couple
of other employees. The TD said in an "as-if" aside to one of the others,
"Is this the bloke who's been on TV?" (he said it directly in front of
me, and obviously meant mke to hear him saying it). The other person
replied, "Yes, I think so".

I think the subtext of what the TD said was "Why are they bothering with
him? He's so insignificant, why would they possibly want to spend the
resources going after him and putting all that expensive technology in
his home, when there must be much better targets?". The Technical
Director was given to sometimes disrespecting people, you see, and in my
case he couldn't see the point of anyone expending money on harassing me.

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Subject: Re: Treatment of Schizophrenia
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Illtud Daniel (idaniel@jesus.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: Probably 'cos you come across as reasoned & articulate, it's a pity
: about the other stuff :)

Veracity is so unreasonable.

: >>pps. You should still see a doc again Mike.
: >
: >Doing so. Trouble is, all this mental-illness stuff provides camouflage
: >for the harassment, which is real. It alows people who otherwise would
: >consider the harassment seriously to disregard it. It makes conversations
: >with a lawyer or police brief when otherwise it would merit discussion.

: The point is that there are two possibilities happening here-

: 1. There's a large conspiracy of people out to get you, for no
: other reason than that they have the means to do so, and that
: it involves a lot of the Media & a proportion of the public

: 2. You (who admit to having some headspace problems) are suffering
: from acute paranoid schizophrenia.

: Possibility #1 is _possible_, but would be unprecendented (OTOH,
: how would we know?), unfeasible, and many other things beginning
: with _un_ which I can't think of at the moment. Besides, if there
: was something going on, chances are some of us here would know
: about it, and I'm convinced that nobody does.

"Unprecedented" hits the nail on the head. It _is_ unprecedented, but we
have only just reached the technical stage at which it is feasible, and
we know video-spying is done to other people (NB the Diana-Hewitt
episode) and is a routine tool of security agencies.

Perhaps what is unprecedented is not the technical side, but the social
manipulation of many people by a concealed element in what other
countries would be called the secret police. The most disturbing element
is the degree to which people allow themselves to be unquestioningly
manipulated by an evil element within the state.

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Bernard Levin 1/6/96 (1376)
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Date: Sun, Aug 19 2007 11:14 pm
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: Re: "FANATIC'S FARE FOR THE COMMON MAN"
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Peter Ceresole (peter@cara.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <Ds0L1o.BMF.0.bloor@torfree.net>,
: bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) quoted a typical, overblown Bernard Levin
: piece, which sounds exactly like any number of other pieces by Levin over
: the past thirty years.

: He then goes on to draw an anguished parallel with a totally unrelated
: incident that had happened between him and a friend a few days earlier.

It is in the same style as his other pieces, but it's so close to what
actually happened a few days previously, that it's completely reasonable
to assume that someone told Levin about the meeting, hammed it up a
little bit and motivated him to write that article.

Look at the parallels;

1. "madman running loose about London"

2. it's about a meeting which took place recently

3. the police are called (he must be controlled, however much that
consumes in resources)

4. he might be violent, approach with caution, yes we're laughing but
really we're afraid of him, or is it perhaps our own propaganda that
we're letting manipulate us

5. he "bursts into tears, and swears it's all true - and it is" a very
exaggerated impression of the conclusion of that meeting

Don't worry if you don't believe me, neither my friend to whom I
explained this nor my GP believe me either (until the friend found out
otherwise!). If someone just presented this to you as I am presenting it
now then I wouldn't find it credible (most likely), so it's not until you
actually find out it's true that you can find it credible. And by then
it's too late, because they've got you in their trap and explained how
"funny" the abuse is.

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Date: Sun, Aug 19 2007 11:36 pm
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

From: richard@musicians-net.co.uk (Richard Fairhurst)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.media,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc
Subject: A Mike Corley newsgroup?
Date: Thu Jun 6 05:02:17 1996

In article <2520@osiris.win-uk.net>, burridge@osiris.win-uk.net (Paul
Burridge) wrote:

> In article <833844951snz@eloka.demon.co.uk>, Owen Lewis
(oml@eloka.demon.co.uk) writes [re: Mike Corley]:
> >To be honest, having made the mistake of reading his magnum opus twice
> >(like many forms of discomfort, one is prone to repeat the experience to
> >confirm that it really is a bad as one thought), I read nothing he writes
> >but am tempted by some of the sub-threads that develop.
>
> I made the grave error of showing one of his masterpieces to my
> mother, together with some of the (less than respectful) responses
> to it. Regrettably, she is now addicted to the Corley saga, is
> very much an admirer of him (viewing him as a pugilistic underdog
> deserving of great admiration) and I have to waste reams of paper
> printing all this bilge out every other day, for her delecation.

Given that Mr Corley clearly holds a certain fascination for some people,
and that his website, although "informative", isn't exactly ideal for
encouraging discussion of the sort that we all enjoy so much (including
Mike himself, by the look of things), would anyone be up for a Mike
Corley newsgroup - uk.fan.mike-corley, alt.fan.mike-corley, whatever?
(Sorry, I'm not very well up on these things.)

This would be a perfect place for Mike to post his writings, and perhaps
the occasional "look at the ...mike-corley newsgroup" posting in uk.misc
and so on would be accepted in place of the current cross-posts.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 3:43 am
From: clams casino

Dawn wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:03:52 -0700, Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> < Can you think of any not on this list? >
>>
>>Top 10 money drains
>>
>>It's easy to fritter away money on daily expenses. If you fall into
>>these money traps, learn to avoid them and pocket the savings. Use
>>Bankrate's Simple savings calculator to see how quickly your money
>>piles up with interest.
>>10 money drains
>>1. Coffee 6. Car washes
>>2. Cigarettes 7. Weekday lunches out
>>3. Alcohol 8. Vending machines snacks
>>4. Bottled water 9. Interest charges on credit cards
>>5. Manicures 10. Unused memberships
>>
>>
>>
>I must be a frugalista. None of these things apply to me as stated in
>the rest of the post. I do drink coffee at home and out once every
>third month or so when I meet a group of friends. I have been known
>to have a couple glasses of wine at home in a month.
>Dawn, happy.
>
>

The bottled water is all that I utilize. At only about 20 cents/
bottle, I always keep several in my car for use when traveling.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:14 am
From: Jimington

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:26:29 GMT, George Grapman
<sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:

>Gordon wrote:
>> Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1187568232.963854.244670@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> < Can you think of any not on this list? >
>>>
>>> Top 10 money drains
>>>
>>> It's easy to fritter away money on daily expenses. If you fall into
>>> these money traps, learn to avoid them and pocket the savings. Use
>>> Bankrate's Simple savings calculator to see how quickly your money
>>> piles up with interest.
>>> 10 money drains
>>> 1. Coffee 6. Car washes
>>> 2. Cigarettes 7. Weekday lunches out
>>> 3. Alcohol 8. Vending machines snacks
>>> 4. Bottled water 9. Interest charges on credit cards
>>> 5. Manicures 10. Unused memberships
>>>
>>
>> Premium gas.
>> Cable TV
>> Too big of a cell phone plan(IE: lots more minutes than you use).
>> Intrest on car payments.
>> Boxed dinners (Hamburger helper)
>> Cable ISP
> I agree with some,disagree with others.
>
> Coffee-Many offices supply coffee. If not, you can bring a single cup
>coffee maker to work.

I think all workplaces have a jug for boiling water at least
somewhere.

>
> Water-Only time I buy the bottled stuff is when I am traveling and
>then it is always the cheapest one.

What's wrong with tapwater or even softdrink?. A cola on a trip isn't
a luxury when they sting you the same price for water.
What i tend to do is hit a supermarket when travel ling and buy some
nearly out of date fruit juice that's reduced in price. Cheap and
cold.

>
> Smoking- add the health problems and the time lost from work because
>in most places you have to leave the building.

Just a drug addiction everyone's better without.
>
> Drinking-can be relaxing after work and very cheap at home.
It'd be a boring life if there wasn't any vices.
>
> Manicures-never had or wanted one-
who has?
>
>Car Wash-Spend a few dollars every few months as a self service place.
I park the car in the rain, easy and cheap.
>
>
>cable TV- I actually have satellite but ,same idea. I find it worthwhile
>for news and sports.
If you don't pay for TV you only get the dross.
>
> credit card-pay bill in full. When making a large purchase I try to
>time it for the day after the billing cycle.
Yeah you've got to be careful with them buggers but the card isn't the
problem, it's the lifestyle.
>
> cell- I have two land lines a cell and DSL and I know people who pay
>more for their cell than I do for everything. Then again, in 7 years I
>think I sent one text message.
I don't have one. I hate phones and am happy to never use one.

Jim.

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:41 am
From: clams casino

Jimington wrote:

>
>
>
>> Water-Only time I buy the bottled stuff is when I am traveling and
>>then it is always the cheapest one.
>>
>>
>
>What's wrong with tapwater or even softdrink?. A cola on a trip isn't
>a luxury when they sting you the same price for water.
>
>

Personally, I prefer water to a soft drink. I'll never understand the
draw for diet drinks. Ironically, it costs more to manufacture
(exclusive of advertising) bottle water than soft drinks. The cost of
sugar / flavoring / carbonation is actually less than the cost of
getting a clear, purified ground water. Filtered tap water as sold
by Coke & Pepsi are likely cheaper to product than spring water, but
likely not too much cheaper than a soft drink. The advantage for soft
drinks is that cans are generally less costly to manufacture than bottles.

It's perhaps more frugal to carry along one's own tap water, but I'm not
sure what it's shelf life would be. At <20 cents/ bottle, I find
bottled water to be one of the least costly items one can purchase, plus
they have a lengthy shelf life. I always have several in my car.
Warm or cold really doesn't matter much with water as it does with soft
drinks, etc.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 12:00 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

From: box6565@embankment.com (Old_500)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Dear Mike Corley
Followup-To: uk.legal,uk.misc
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 15:41:16 GMT
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Subject: Now we tell the truth as it really is
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
Summary:
Keywords:

:AND a second posting which appeared in uk.legal on 5th July 1996 (isn't Mr
:Corley popular ?)

> Dear Mike,

> I've just spoken to a man who knows and he has told me you
> have never ever been a target.

> My man knows because he once wrote a report on you after
> you made complaints.

Come off it "Big Ears", if you're going to pretend someone else is giving me
advice then at least get one of your fellow coppers to write it so that it
isn't obviously written in the same style as your posts.

Also both your post and the one you're pretending isn't yours were posted from
pipex via news.dircon.co.uk, viz:

YOURS;

From: BigEars@technocom.com (Big Ears.)
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"NOT YOURS";

From: box6565@embankment.com (Old_500)
Message-ID: <31dd3788.8481134@news.dircon.co.uk>
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:NCIS leaks and most policemen regard it as unaccountable and occasionally
:insecure. M Howard promises to make NCIS publicly accountable.

You know a lot about what policemen think, don't you?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 12:24 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

From: Mike_Corley_Fan_Club@Nut_house.org (Old_500)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.media,alt.radio.uk,rec.arts.tv.uk.misc
Subject: MC Exposed as a Fraud
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 17:01:05 GMT
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Sad, confused and emotional disturbed Mike Corley wrote:

{ snip }

Because he has made himself into a martyr and now he finds it impossible to
back down. Mike's big secret has now been exposed. He made everything up.

Every time Mike makes allegations against the police, MI5,
Tom-Dick-and-Harry etc. those organisations have taken people off vitally
important work to ascertain whether or not there was any substance in Mike's
ranting allegations.

When I'm told by someone who really does know such things that there was
never any plot to get Mike then I trust that person sufficiently enough to
accept his word.

The problem is Mike has escalated matters to an extreme level and like many
silly billys he will find it impossible to give up all his self created crap
and to live a normal life. After all what can Mike do now this crap has
been exposed as untrue ? What new cause can Mike dedicate himself to ?
(Some might read that as: who else can Mike now start upsetting ?)

So Mike write to John Major, c/o the Private Secretary, 10 Downing Street,
London SW1A 2AA and ask the Prime Minister to help you. I'd normally
disclose his fax numbers but if I did that you might jam up the lines with
abusive postings just like you do here on Usenet.

Is anyone interested in joining with me to do a mass e-mailing of protests
to Anon Penet and to Toronto Free Net in an attempt to flood their computer
systems thus forcing them to seriously consider pulling the plug on Mike ?
I'm not sure but is my proposal called a "flame" ?

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From: BigEars@technocom.com (Big Ears.)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.media,alt.radio.uk,rec.arts.tv.uk.misc
Subject: Re: MC Exposed as a Fraud
Date: Sat Jul 6 17:34:46 1996

John Youles commented:

> I've found that torfree.net don't respond, perhaps if they got a high
> enough number of complaints they might take notice. See their web pages
> for email addresses.

Perhaps we should give Mike 7 days from today (6 July 96) to come to his
senses and they start a massive multiple E-mailing campaign to Toronto Free
Net. If all us victims send multiple copies of E-mails to the right
addresses in Toronto then perhaps the Canadians will begin to get the
appropriate message.

Copy e-mailed to Mike, just so he knows what is coming if he persists.

Big Ears. Posted to uk.misc
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Subject: I'm wasting MI5's time! I should be arrested!
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,rec.arts.tv.uk.misc,alt.journalism,alt.journalism.print,$
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
Summary:
Keywords:

It's such a pity that the Security Service has no powers of arrest. How are
they supposed to implement a proper secret police state without the ability to
snatch Joe Citizen off the street whenever they feel like it?

"Old_500" aka "Big Ears" aka "PC Plod" wrote:
>Every time Mike makes allegations against the police, MI5,
>Tom-Dick-and-Harry etc. those organisations have taken people off vitally
>important work to ascertain whether or not there was any substance in Mike's
>ranting allegations.

I see. So they're not wasting six years of manpower to persecute you. They're
wasting six years of manpower to prove I'm _not_ being persecuted.

I wish I was clever enough to think of something like that. I really, really do.

>When I'm told by someone who really does know such things that there was
>never any plot to get Mike then I trust that person sufficiently enough to
>accept his word.

Come on "Big Ears", why don't you admit that you made this posting? This is
exactly the same line you were feeding me a few months ago. The posts are from
the same news server, it's even the same newsreading software (Forte Agent
.99e/16.227).

I'm afraid that if you friend "in the know" denied the existence of a plot then
he was being, as they say, economical with the truth. Judging by the extreme
reaction in London in May, and the panic you're showing now, as well as the
replay post yesterday, I would say that things are hotting up again. But for
you this time, not for me. I am out of harm's way, and there is very little you
can do as long as I stay out of the UK.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:14 am
From: ultimauw@hotmail.com

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> Pharmaceutical sales reps are trained in tactics that are on par with some
> of the most potent brainwashing techniques used throughout the world,
> according to an in-depth report co-written by former Eli Lilly drug rep
> Shahram Ahari, and Adriane Fugh-Berman, associate professor of physiology
> and biophysics at Georgetown University Medical Center in Washington, D.C..
>
> Pharmaceutical companies spend more than $15 billion each year promoting
> prescription drugs in the United States.
>
> These campaigns are designed to effectively alter prescribing behavior, to
> sell more of the high-profit drugs (as opposed to the most effective, and
> least dangerous).
>
> The fact that sales reps for drug companies serve no useful function other
> than driving up sales for their blockbuster drugs -- at your expense

But... This cant be! We have the bestest healthcare in the world. At
least that is what the Republican party line says.

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Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:23 am
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:34 am
From: useful_infos@yahoo.com

See the video at http://Muvy.org

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:44 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Newsgroups: uk.misc,alt.radio.uk,uk.media,alt.politics.british,uk.legal
From: bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley)
Subject: MI5 Buy into the Media
Message-ID: <Dv0p34.73.0.bloor@torfree.net>
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
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References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960716155603.6898A-100000@ermine.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:28:15 GMT

Peter Harding (harding@ermine.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: I was at speakers' corner on Sunday. There was one chap who was bellowing
: about something or other, I don't know what, but one thing he said to
: someone caught my ear:

: "BBC, MI5, same thing."

Can't disagree with that sentiment.

Wasn't it documented that MI5 sometimes "bought" journalists and broadcasters?
I remember reading a report by some jouralist who had been offered an extra
tax-free income by MI5 to become their covert mouthpiece, and had refused.

Bet you lots of others didn't refuse. Why do you think MI5 have such easy
access to the BBC and media? Because they're directly paying them off, that's why.

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Iain@cummings.demon.co.uk Iain Cummings at Fish!

In article <Dv0p34.73.0.bloor@torfree.net>, Mike Corley
<bu765@torfree.net> writes
>
>Wasn't it documented that MI5 sometimes "bought" journalists and broadcasters?
>I remember reading a report by some jouralist who had been offered an extra
>tax-free income by MI5 to become their covert mouthpiece, and had refused.
>
>
It was Jon Snow of Channel 4.
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> : >mouthpiece, and had refused.
> :
> : It was Jon Snow of Channel 4.
>
> Was it reported in any of the papers?

It has been reported several times. The most recent was in Private Eye,
a few months back. As I recall they also wanted information from him;
journalists would be a natural choice for members of the Security Service
and the Secret Intelligence Service for information sources.

> It might be interesting to see what he had to say regarding their
> attempt to recruit him.

He was most concerned that many others would have accepted such an
offer. However, we can probably make an educated guess as to some of
those who accepted: Nigel West (Rupert Allason, MP) and Chapman Pincher
would come near to the top of the list.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:09 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

From: Jon <Jon@jongru.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.british,uk.media
Subject: Surveillance
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:20:19 +0100
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In article <4tfo1f$rvc@morgana.netcom.net.uk>, "B.Jury" <bj2@ukc.ac.uk>
writes
>an410901@anon.penet.fi wrote:
>> ... Normal surveillance
>>"mini-cameras" are quite noticeable and require visible supporting
>>circuitry. It seems to me the best place to put a small video surveillance
>>device would be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a TV
>>or video.
>
>I would imagine it is quite easy to compleatly hida a camera, even in
>a familar enviroment, such as a persons home. You only need a hole the
>size of a pin hole, for the camera to see through.

This is true. I frequently employ private detectives to spy on people
(there's a good reason for this and I'll tell you if you guess
correctly) and one such detective showed me the latest technology only
last week. A small rucksack. One strap of the rucksack has a tiny hole
in it that you wouldn't notice unless someone pointed to it. That's the
camera: the wires lead into the rucksack itself where there is a video
tape recorder little bigger than a Walkman. I don't know if that's what
Roger Cook uses but it certainly explains why it is that the subject can
look straight into the lens and not realise (s)he's being filmed. Now, I
say "latest technology" and I think that's the technology that the
police use as well as the retired police who become private detectives,
but no doubt the security services have far more sophisticated
equipment.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:22 am
From: choose.style@gmail.com

hello everyone

i`m making a personal website abput lifestyles.

can some1 reffer me to the frugal life style websites or faqs?

thanks!

choose.style@gmail.com

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:49 am
From: Anthony Matonak

choose.style@gmail.com wrote:
> hello everyone
> i`m making a personal website abput lifestyles.
> can some1 reffer me to the frugal life style websites or faqs?
> thanks!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=frugal+lifestyle
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=frugal+faq
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+use+search+engines

Anthony

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:37 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: Re: Is MI5 persecuting Mike Corley?
Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,uk.net,uk.misc,uk.legal
Followup-To: uk.politics.misc,uk.net,uk.misc,uk.legal
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Distribution:

wooding@cf.ac.uk wrote:
: In article <NEWTNews.843523097.30215.apascoe@apascoe.patrol.i-way.co.uk> apascoe@pa$
: > In summary, for there to be a serious possibility that Mike
: >Corley's allegations are true, there needs to be evidence of two
: >things. Firstly, there must be evidence of subversive activity on
: >his part. Secondly, there needs to be evidence of MI5 taking
: >measures to counter this subversive activity, in proportion to the
: >magnitude of the threat posed. Upon reading Mike Corley's posts,

: Alan,

: What about the following scenario? MI5 conducts "experiments" including
: field trials of novel surveillance methods. Say there was a "research
: project" underway to see just how invasive a surveillance of an
: individual could be. Perhaps it wasn't research, perhaps it was for
: training of novice personnel. Either way, there is a sizeable risk of
: detection. In order to minimise the consequences of this, you choose
: someone who is out of the public eye, and if possible someone whose
: credibility is already damaged - by diagnosis of schizophrenia, for example.
: This will facilitate the "plausible denial" if something goes wrong.

: I think this would be closer to Mike's theory.

: Mike, if you are reading, please don't post the story again. Anyone can
: read it at [snip] if they are interested. Also, don't
: think that I actually *believe* the above. On cost alone, it is extremely
: unlikely to be true, and some elements of the story (people in the media
: being "in on it") are just too crazy (though I can see how the paranoia
: builds to the extent that you can see "them" everywhere).

My argument is that the fact that it's so totally crazy is what makes it so
plausible and so hard to prove.

I shall continue to try to find ways to kick down the house of cards. Because
it is a brittle structure. It only needs one person to corroborate, and then
it's all over.

: P.S. Anyone else ever thought of "what-ifs" along the same lines? I
: remember as a boy daydreaming that maybe I was the focus of national
: attention in a "let's follow the life of one person from life to
: death" study - that while I was out or in bed there were programmes on
: the television about my life so far, etc. It makes for a good fiction,

Perhaps MI5 have become victims of their own paranoia. Their agency has been
thought of as acting disreputably, so when their decision arrives, they don't
think twice about breaking the law. Whereas say CSIS (the Canadian equivalent)
is at pains to point out how it would never ever do anything in contravention
of the law, and how it is strictly controlled in what it does and how it does it.

If this matter does ever make it into the public gaze, then it won't just be a
few individuals in the media or security service who'll get hit. The UK is
supposed to be a civilized democratic country (East Germany called themselves a
democracy and they had the Stasi, but anyway). In a civilized country these
things shouldn't be happening - and it is ultimately Parliament and the
government who are answerable for not imposing sufficient restraints and
accountability on those who are supposed to be ensuring security for citizens,
not jeopardising it.
.....................................................................

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:58 am
From: Sam

On Aug 18, 11:38 am, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
> Last weekend we stayed one night at the Hampton Inn in Waterbury CT.
>
> I couldn't get my company's corporate rate, but that was ok, since
> the room was nice and had a comfortable king-size bed. Also the
> complimentary continental breakfast was very good.
>
> The 1st surprise came at 11PM when we discovered the low-flush
> toilet didn't do its job. This was no big deal, since I took the cover off
> the tank, figured out what was going on, and manually forced it to do
> what had to be done.
>
> The 2nd surprise came 12 hours later when we checked out.
> I told the manager about the toilet, --not to complain, but just to
> let her know that it wasn't working right and should be fixed.
>
> I turned to leave, but then she said, "Wait! I'll make an adjustment".
> It turns out that she took $110 off the bill!
> We had stayed at the hotel for free!
>
> I'm now an even bigger fan of Hampton Inns!
>
> Don

Why should I pay for Paris Hilton's designer wardrobe when I shop the
clearance rack?!

Whenever I stay in major cities on business travel (or pleasure), I
always check into the nearest HOSTEL for approx. $23 bucks per night.
Most of them have a range of ages and not just the college set. I
make sure to do a little research into the cleanest ones via www.tripadvisor.com
and book accordingly. I've heard some college and universities offer
similar billeting during the summer, but I've never tried it. If I
need a little more privacy, I'll check the short-term/sublet housing
rentals on Craigslist.org- I've gotten use of an entire apartments for
less than $50 nightly. Of course all frugal solutions require a bit
of flexibility, but it sure beats shelling out for outrageous hotel
rates.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:03 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: Re: MI5 says "Kill Yourself"
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.media
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iain@hotch.demon.co.uk (Iain L M Hotchkies) wrote:
>Indeed. If you've ever had a 'conversation' with someone suffering
>from florid schizophrenia, you'll know how difficult it can be to
>'argue' with them.

I don't have florid symptoms. But I'm in a difficult situation, because those
people who don't know, aren't going to believe, and those who do, they just go
along with the crowd. It's never a good idea to go against the grain, and the
grain here is defined by interests in the establishment and the media. Even
people who could say out loud what was happening won't, because then there's a
risk that they'll be seen as traitors and ostracised.

Usually this type of 'hidden abuse' is racial and targetted at a racial
minority within a country. You keep the minorities out of the good jobs, but
you don't admit discrimination exists. It happens everywhere, not just in
Britain. The persecution that is going on now is in reality a refined form of
racism. Instead of "nigger" it's "nutter", and abusing the mentally ill is
still socially acceptable today. In 50 years it might not be, but today there
isn't any social or legal sanction against it.

So really they've refined racial harassment down to a minority of one. The
words may be different, but the methods are the same.

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Excellent web page 19/10/96 (6268)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:25 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

From: Chris Lawton <chrisla@ti.com>
Subject: Re: MI5 persecution ;; Cost of the Harassment
Message-ID: <325A3DA6.3447@ti.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: chrisla@ti.com

DANIEL ROBERT HOLDSWORTH wrote:
>
> In article <3262b4fc.14638885@192.168.2.1>,
> stevea@castlsys.demon.co.uk.no.spam.thanx (Steve A) writes:
> :On 4 Oct 1996 13:19:16 +0100, drh92@aber.ac.uk (DANIEL ROBERT
> :HOLDSWORTH) wrote:
> :
> :>
> :> Oh NO!
> :>
> :> Not here too.
> :>
> :> This MI5 persecution thread's been doing the rounds of UK.MISC for ages;
> :> it concerns some paranoid loony who thinks that MI5 are out to get him.
> :>
> :> They're not; everyone else on that newsgroup IS.
> :>
> :> Killfile the moron NOW!
> :

Bit sad really, the guy (must be the same one) has an excellent web
page. Definite waste of talent.
PS: I am NOT disclosing his URL.

> The man's been changing his anon remailer address periodically, too.
>
> Why on earth he does I don't know; he's in serious danger of creating some
> real enemies, apart from the phantoms his sadly deranged mind has created.
>
........................................................................................
From: nuala@mimir.com (Nuala Fahey)
Subject: Re: MI5 persecution // BBC TV and Radio
Date: 4 Oct 1996 16:03:24 +0100
Message-ID: <5338vs$hrc@freyja.mimir.com>

Simon Lord <simonl@hrmconsult.co.uk> wrote:

>I expect he will soon be seen in uk.out.to.lunch

Considering he spammed it far and wide (well, at least to alt.angst and
alt.folklore.urban which I saw and each of those included other groups
in the Newsgroups line) I doubt he'll be seen anywhere for long. Using
the xs4all remailer doesn't really help if you post the url to a
web site which makes it clear who you are.

Nuala, who thinks that the sad thing is he used frames much better
than many sites done by supposedly 'sane' people.
--
Out of the ash I rise/With my red hair/And I eat men like air - Plath
You were everything to me/For twenty minutes/
Now I'd rather you would leave - Baby Chaos
........................................................................................
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 01:36:26 +0100
From: mike.monty@zetnet.co.uk
To: bu765@torfree.net
Subject: Praise

Hi,
Totally excellent page. Although I am a little confused whi is being
percecuted?

Cheers Michael

mike.monty@zetnet.co.uk
........................................................................................

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:47 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: Re: MIKE AND THE DOWNFALL OF UK.LEGAL
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.media
Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.media
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J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk (John J Smith) wrote:
>Actually, I see uk.misc as a source of occasional interesting information,
>and I like jokes. Some people can laugh, you see.
>
>And as for you spams, exactly how much good have they done so far?

Not much. I thought they might, but the realization has arrived that this
particular avenue of exploration is at a dead end.

WTGROMT (well that's got rid of me then!)
.......................................................................
Subject: Re: MIKE AND THE DOWNFALL OF UK.LEGAL
From: wooding@cf.ac.uk ()
Date: 1996/11/04
Message-Id: <E0CFFH.1J9@cf.ac.uk>
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.cf.ac.uk
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Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.media

In article <E05GoF.Ku.0.bloor@torfree.net> bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) writes:
>J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk (John J Smith) wrote:
>>Actually, I see uk.misc as a source of occasional interesting information,
>>and I like jokes. Some people can laugh, you see.
>>
>>And as for you spams, exactly how much good have they done so far?
>
>Not much. I thought they might, but the realization has arrived that this
>particular avenue of exploration is at a dead end.

Oh please let this be true and not just another wind-up!

>WTGROMT (well that's got rid of me then!)

Mike, without the spamming I'm sure you are welcome to stay around, being
one of the colourful "characters" of uk.misc.

Have a custard cream.

Dave.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 9:02 am
From: rick++

The troll who thinks James Bond is chasing him doesnt post that often,
but when he does its tens of thosuands of messages to all the
newsgroups.

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: No Justice 20/11/96 (8714)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 9:05 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

(sent 20/11/96)
Subject: No Justice for those with mental illness
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
Summary:
Keywords:

Well, the "legal option" has just foundered on the rock of lawyers refusing to
deal with me on the grounds that my perception of harassment must be due to the
disease.

So we're back to square one again, the same place we were two years ago.

Now perhaps one of our uk.legal participants can clarify this point. To me it
seems illogical that lawyers should have the final say on whether you are
allowed to proceed with a civil case or not. Is there a default mechanism or
agency for cases such as mine where it is difficult to find a solicitor to
represent you? What exactly is the "official Solicitor"? What is it possible to
do if you can't find a lawyer to represent you?

A chance to get a useful response out of the uk newsgroups! perhaps they can be
good for something else besides spamming.
..........................................................................

Represent yourself....like the defendants in the McLibel trial.
you will need to read some law..but you CAN legally represent yourself I
believe.
Mike W.
..........................................................................
From: burridge@osiris.win-uk.net (Paul Burridge)

Yes, a lot of people do this nowadays. Saves on legal fees too. Lots
of reading up required first, though.

-- Paul
..........................................................................
(posted 30/11/96 from bu765)

Subject: Re: No Justice for those with mental illness
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal
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burridge@osiris.win-uk.net (Paul Burridge) wrote:
>>Represent yourself....like the defendants in the McLibel trial.
>>you will need to read some law..but you CAN legally represent yourself I
>>believe.
>>Mike W.
>
>Yes, a lot of people do this nowadays. Saves on legal fees too. Lots
>of reading up required first, though.

What can I do to get competent legal help though? If the case is on the face of
it so bizarre that no solicitor would represent me or talk to me, then surely
there must be a default mechanism? What is the "official Solicitor" that's been
mentioned?
..........................................................................

All you need do is go to a good library & read up about it - that's what
the McLibel 2 did.

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All words written in the above posting are my opinions
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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: David Hepworth (1) 26/2/97 (9937)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 9:25 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: "Absolute Obscene" David Hepworth (GLR)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,alt.radio.uk,uk.media,uk.media.radio.misc
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
Summary:
Keywords:

Last night (21/Feb/97), I was listening to BBC GLR. You have to understand that
I was listening by stealth. Back in 1990 I used to have Capital blaring out of
the speakers all over the garden ("if he listens to Capital then he can't be
all bad", thanks ever so much). But now I listen on my walkman on headphones
with the volume turned right down. It could not possibly be overheard by any
listening device, no matter how sensitive, because sound does not carry from
the headphones.

Yet somehow they are still able to tell which station I am listening to on the
walkman. And last night, I bravely tuned to GLR 94.9FM at around 8.45pm.
Everything went well for the first half hour or so. The DJ (today GLR told me
it was David Hepworth) had a "rock star spelling competition" (how do you spell
Shakespear's Sister?), no trouble there. I was recording the show onto tape
just in case anything unpleasant happened, as I had reason to think it might.

Around 9.10pm, it did. Here, precisely, is what Hepworth said after the song
"Come Around" by the Muttonbirds (I have this on tape, and at some point will
be posting the audio on my website);

"New album's called 'Envy of Angels', that comes out soon, that's the single
that's already out, I would imagine, that's 'Come Around', the Muttonbirds, er,
coming up after this, we got the rock-and-roll A-level, we have, I assume,
Brian do we have an embarrassment of prizes in there, we do, don't we,
(EMPHASIS) absolute obscene (END-EMPHASIS) amounts of prizes, there will no
doubt be a riot at the back door", and that's, er, A-level coming up after this"

The key phrases in what he said are, "EMBARRASSMENT of prizes", and what he
himself emphasized verbally, "ABSOLUTE OBSCENE amount of prizes". It is my
belief (based on content and tone of voice) that when he spoke these phrases he
knew I was listening, and that the phrases refer directly to my situation. The
"EMBARRASSMENT" is the embarrassment he and other media people would feel at
having their wrongdoing exposed; the "ABSOLUTE OBSCENE" (which he verbally
emphasized) described the disgusting sexual abuse which the harassers have been
throwing at me.

Needless to say, I can't prove this is what he meant, although this has
happened enough times that it's hard not to recognise it when you see it. But I
shall be sending him a copy of this explanation. We'll see what he has to say
for himself.
....................................................................
Subject: Re: "Absolute Obscene" David Hepworth (GLR)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal,alt.radio.uk,uk.media,uk.media.radio.misc
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Anthony@dircon.co.uk-antispam (Anthony) wrote:

>Greg W wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:11:22 GMT, bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Last night (21/Feb/97), I was listening to BBC GLR. You have to understand
that
>> >I was listening by stealth. Back in 1990 I used to have Capital blaring out
of

[snip]

>> huh?
>
>I can't understand it myself. Can anyone else help us ?

I will try to explain with greater clarity.

I am prone to have ideas of "interactive watching" by people on TV, and
"interactive listening" by people on the radio; which means as I listen to
their programme, they are aware that I am listening (because my home is spied
on, and those doing the spying phone up the radio station and tell them that I
am listening to them), and they then interject nasty remarks in what they say.
This is what I believe may have happened on Friday night with GLR, and what I
was trying to explain in my article.

It's happened before with other radio stations, most worryingly when I am
listening quietly on my walkman as happened on Friday. This time, the
interjected words were "embarrassment" and "absolute obscene". The "absolute
obscene" referred to the abuse which is currently being directed at me.

I hope that's a little clearer.
....................................................................
From: simon@star-one.org.uk (Simon Gray)

Facility thusly:

~ huh?

Just because you need to read it twice in order to understand it, is
that any reason to inflict it on the rest of us again ?

--
'2% of people *do*, 98% of people wish they *had*' - David Fanshawe
http://www.mahayana.demon.co.uk/

Read Flatland !
....................................................................
Mike, try playing a cassette in your walkman. There is no way they can
reach you then. HTH

--
Don Whybrow - Correct email address: don@whybrow.demon.co.uk
....................................................................
Mike Corley wrote:

> ............................ This time, the
> interjected words were "embarrassment" and "absolute obscene". The "absolute
> obscene" referred to the abuse which is currently being directed at me.

But it is possible that those two sets of interjected words could have
validly referred to something else.

> I hope that's a little clearer.

Thank you, it is a bit clearer.

Posted in uk.legal by Anthony@dircon.co.uk
....................................................................
Simon Rushton <Simon@ppushers.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Some people, new to this group, may not realise the Mike is our resident
>Paranoid Schizophrenic. This is not a joke, it is serious. He has
>already admitted stopping taking prescribed drugs for his condition.

Though I have to say I've never heard one as obscure as that, even
from Mike. How he can believe a rubbish trail for a crap competition
is directed at him is beyond me!
He's sent a copy of the post to the jock, too. I hope he doesn't read
it out.

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It's just an Austin Ambassador of a site!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 9:51 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Subject: "Scandalous, Frivolous or Vexatious"
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.legal
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
Summary:
Keywords:

A couple of weeks ago I issued a summons against the BBC in my local county
court, for the tort of private nuisance caused by the spying by their
newsreaders on my home. My argument was that their spying had prevented me
watching the news at home, and therefore interfered with my normal use of my home.

The BBC's Litigation Dept at White City have replied not with a defence, but
with an application for my claim to be struck out because;

(a) it discloses no reasonable cause of action; and/or
(b) it is scandalous, frivolous or vexatious.

Their application will be heard next week. They have not made any affidavit in
support of their application, nor have they given particulars as to why they
consider my summons to be unarguable in law, which would be a necessary
condition for there to be no reasonable cause of action.

I am more worried about point (b). Allegations are scandalous (says Stuart
Sime's book) if they impute dishonesty against another party; which my
allegations do, against the BBC's newsreaders. As for frivolous or vexatious, I
think that will be up to me to make a good argument for the effect the BBC's
spying has had on my life, and up to the district judge's opinion of my case.

Apparently seeking to have a claim struck out in this way is common practice
when the plaintiff is a litigant-in-person. Even if it is struck out, there is
always the opportunity to appeal. I think we could be in for a fight next week.
..........................................................................
Sun, 02 Mar 1997 20:38:59 uk.legal Thread 52 of 54
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Kate@carterce.demon.co.uk KKKKatie

In article <NQoVQiAnHgGzEwl3@solicit.demon.co.uk>
andy@solicit.demon.co.uk "Andrew Nichols" writes:

> Well, that'll liven up the dear old District Judge. Almost worth taking
> the day off to see how Mike fares.

almost worth taking a day off to see if he exists

Kate
--
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"Vertical Clearance Impeded" for "Low Bridge"
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burridge@osiris.win-uk.net (Paul Burridge) wrote:
>Almost worthwhile taking the day off to go and punch him in the
>face for all abuse he's given us on these groups. Which court is it?

Thank you for your kind thought.

I'm not telling you which court it is. I don't want to be hounded by irate
uk-miscreants!

As for raising eyebrows, the member of staff who took the summons form didn't
change their facial expression at all. Seen it all before, no doubt.
..........................................................................
In article <857597450snz@adams.demon.co.uk>,
Derek Tidman <Derek@adams.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <E6JAxt.EFK.0.bloor@torfree.net>
> bu765@torfree.net "Mike Corley" writes:
>
>-I'm not telling you which court it is. I don't want to be hounded by irate
>-uk-miscreants!
>-
>-As for raising eyebrows, the member of staff who took the summons form didn't
>-change their facial expression at all. Seen it all before, no doubt.
>
>Take no notice Mike, some people are like that. I hope
>you finally get this matter into court.

I'm not so fond of the threats of violence against the persistent (yet
quiet for a bit, and probably soon to restart..) spammer that is Mike
Corley. Yet, encouraging the fantasies of the mentally ill isn't
exactly healthy either. Do you go up to homeless mad people as say
things like: "They're coming to get you", or "Look out behind you?".

Smid
..........................................................................
Quite the contary Mike. Your recent posts have been no problem. By
explaining things rationally, and not spamming us, you have made more
friends than you know.

I hope that you sort out your problem, sincerely.
--
***********************************************************************
I'm Alan Packer and I move in a very mysterious way. If replying to me
..........................................................................
In article <857686006snz@adams.demon.co.uk>,
Derek Tidman <Derek@adams.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <5fmdc7$gga$1@ftel.ftel.co.uk>
> J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk "John J Smith" writes:
>
>I think it's good for Mike to vent his anger and frustration on
>these two newsgroups. Consider it to be part of your duty to
>the comunity in general.

Yep. Just not, the, I think 180 posts, one week, when his illness
got really bad. Oh yeah, and there was only three real posts,
just repeated 60 times.

>Mike does a first class job of drawing out the real personality
>of the person hiding behind a node name. The way people react
>to Mike gives it all away.

Erm, explain this rather dubious statement.

>As for you. Don't you think it's a trifle condescending to refer
>to people as mad. I know they are homeless and without internet
>access, but maybe they are just eccentric.

Congratulations. This is my first real flame for about a year.

I try to control my anger when I come across another uninformed
naive idiot on usenet, but sometimes it goes free. We've had Corley
for well over three years now, and his constant spams of various degrees
have killed a couple of usenet groups I really rather lied. uk.media,
to name but one. I gets my goat to read another useless fucker
thinking he is a harmless eccentric.

Mike is mentally ill. He is unwilling to deal with it. He seems to
think that uk.misc is some sort of forum that MI5 reads. And it
should be avenged. He's mailbombed a large quantity of people,
because they opposed his spamming.

1. He thinks MI5 watches him through his television
2. He thinks all references to mad people, refer to him
3. He thinks all people shouting, are shouting at him.
4. He's been diagnosed as mentally ill, just not a paranoid
schizophrenic.
5. He gives not a shit about any newsgroups he abuses.
6. He goes through quiet periods, then _very_ nasty periods.
7. All evidence of this great conspiracy is laughable, to say the
least.
8. He gives internet/usenet a bad name to the media. Including
mailbombing Chris Tarrant and faxing various celebrities.

I do not condescend to him. I actually know what he does, and has done
in the past, and am frankly not too respectful of him. He can be openly
referred to as "mad" because he is. Let's check my mailbox saves:

Repost of when I thought I'd seen the last of loopy mike:

>>J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk (John J Smith) wrote:
>>Actually, I see uk.misc as a source of occasional interesting information,
>>and I like jokes. Some people can laugh, you see.
>>
>>And as for you spams, exactly how much good have they done so far?
>
>Not much. I thought they might, but the realization has arrived that this
>particular avenue of exploration is at a dead end.
>
>WTGROMT (well that's got rid of me then!)

Have you actually visited his web page, and read the massive conspiracy
that is supposed to be against him? Apparently MI5 watch him, but for
no reason. They do it for a laugh. Because they can. It costs them a lot
of money, but they still do it. Reality is but a memory for this man.

>Anyway I understood the UKMTC members upset Mike Corely , but
>I could be wrong.

Heaven forbid.

Smid
..........................................................................
From: burridge@osiris.win-uk.net (Paul Burridge)

In article <33207CAA.1097@sos.bangor.ac.yuk>, David Roberts (oss108@sos.bangor.ac.yuk) writes:
>Derek Tidman wrote:
>
>> Anyway I understood the UKMTC members upset Mike Corely , but
>> I could be wrong.
>
>There was a pitched battle between MC and "the artist formerly
>known as Big Ears" but that was before the UMTC by which time
>MC had seen the light and stopped spamming.

He hadn't seen the light at all. His level of spamming had got to
such outrageous proportions that we had to mount a concerted
attempt to get his account(s) closed. The reason for the lack of
spam lately is that Mike has been furiously swotting up on Law so
he can bring an action as a LIP against the BBC (all solicitors
having quite rightly and honourably declined to act for him). When
this course of action is exhausted without result, I confidently
predict that we will once again be the innocent victims of his ire
and the spamming will commence again.
..........................................................................

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