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* Hotel surprises - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* Top 10 money drains - 10 messages, 5 authors
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* Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home. - 7 messages, 3
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* Let's Unite Against Jews and Mongrels! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Deals website - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Ways to Save Energy and Fuel, & Therefore Money - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Hotel surprises
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 3:17 pm
From: Goomba38
clams casino wrote:
> Ward Abbott wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:58:17 -0700, Sam <yapyap_di@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Why should I pay for Paris Hilton's designer wardrobe when I shop the
>>> clearance rack?!
>>>
>>
>> Do you really believe that if you check into a Hilton property....they
>> send Parrasite Hilton a check? Sorry....but she is living off
>> trusts....and pays no INCOME TAX...She doesn't make any income from a
>> Hilton Trust.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> So her trust has no Hilton stock?
>
Think of all the "little people" who work for Hilton and how staying
there supports their jobs!
I do like the Hilton chain and won't hold the ditz Paris against them.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 3:17 pm
From: jdoe
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:48:21 -0400, Ward Abbott <presby@terian.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:58:17 -0700, Sam <yapyap_di@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Why should I pay for Paris Hilton's designer wardrobe when I shop the
>>clearance rack?!
>
>Do you really believe that if you check into a Hilton property....they
>send Parrasite Hilton a check? Sorry....but she is living off
>trusts....and pays no INCOME TAX...She doesn't make any income from a
>Hilton Trust.
>
and how do you know that she pays no income tax, and even if your
assertion is correct the trusts that fund her pay taxes
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:21 pm
From: "Don K"
"Sam" <yapyap_di@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Why should I pay for Paris Hilton's designer wardrobe when I shop the
> clearance rack?!
I don't know why you should.
Buy stuff only from poor people if that's your priority.
Or the virtuous.
Or the virtuous poor.
Or virtuous, poor, repentent sinners.
Or the virtuous poor who have never sinned.
>
> Whenever I stay in major cities on business travel (or pleasure), I
> always check into the nearest HOSTEL for approx. $23 bucks per night.
> Most of them have a range of ages and not just the college set. I
> make sure to do a little research into the cleanest ones via www.tripadvisor.com
> and book accordingly. I've heard some college and universities offer
> similar billeting during the summer, but I've never tried it. If I
> need a little more privacy, I'll check the short-term/sublet housing
> rentals on Craigslist.org- I've gotten use of an entire apartments for
> less than $50 nightly. Of course all frugal solutions require a bit
> of flexibility, but it sure beats shelling out for outrageous hotel
> rates.
Everyone chooses their own tradeoffs between price, comfort,
safety, sanitation, convenience, etc.
At the lowest end, one could spend the night in a cardboard box for free.
For a bit more comfort, one could share space with a potential psychopath.
For a bit more safety, one could move up to the motel6 class.
etc. etc., all the way up to the Four Seasons hotel.
Don
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:45 pm
From: clams casino
Goomba38 wrote:
> clams casino wrote:
>
>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:58:17 -0700, Sam <yapyap_di@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why should I pay for Paris Hilton's designer wardrobe when I shop the
>>>> clearance rack?!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really believe that if you check into a Hilton property....they
>>> send Parrasite Hilton a check? Sorry....but she is living off
>>> trusts....and pays no INCOME TAX...She doesn't make any income from a
>>> Hilton Trust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> So her trust has no Hilton stock?
>>
> Think of all the "little people" who work for Hilton and how staying
> there supports their jobs!
> I do like the Hilton chain and won't hold the ditz Paris against them.
Bottom line is one has a choice. You patronize her or you don't.
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TOPIC: Top 10 money drains
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 3:35 pm
From: "JonquilJan"
>
> Top 10 money drains
>
> It's easy to fritter away money on daily expenses. If you fall into
> these money traps, learn to avoid them and pocket the savings. Use
> Bankrate's Simple savings calculator to see how quickly your money
> piles up with interest.
> 10 money drains
> 1. Coffee 6. Car washes
> 2. Cigarettes 7. Weekday lunches out
> 3. Alcohol 8. Vending machines snacks
> 4. Bottled water 9. Interest charges on credit cards
> 5. Manicures 10. Unused memberships
The only one that relates to my lifestyle is #9 - and that is gradually
getting smaller and smaller and smaller - and soon will disappear -
hopefully for good.
Guess I lead a frugal life.
JonquilJan
Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:42 pm
From: val189
On Aug 19, 8:03 pm, Ablang <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> < Can you think of any not on this list? >
>
> Top 10 money drains
>
> It's easy to fritter away money on daily expenses. If you fall into
> these money traps, learn to avoid them and pocket the savings. Use
> Bankrate's Simple savings calculator to see how quickly your money
> piles up with interest.
> 10 money drains
> 1. Coffee 6. Car washes
> 2. Cigarettes 7. Weekday lunches out
> 3. Alcohol 8. Vending machines snacks
> 4. Bottled water 9. Interest charges on credit cards
> 5. Manicures 10. Unused memberships
>
> 1. Coffee -- According to the National Coffee Association, the average
> price for brewed coffee is $1.38. There are roughly 260 weekdays per
> year, so buying one coffee every weekday morning costs almost $360 per
> year.
>
> 2. Cigarettes -- The Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids reports that the
> average price for a pack of cigarettes in the United States is $4.54.
> Pack-a-day smokers fork out $1,660 a year. Weekend smoker? Buying a
> pack once a week adds up, too: $236.
>
> 3. Alcohol -- Drink prices vary based on the location. But assuming an
> average of $5 per beer including tip, buying two beers per day adds up
> to $3,650 per year. Figure twice that for two mixed drinks a day at
> the local bar. That's not chump change.
>
> 4. Bottled water from convenience stores -- A 20-ounce bottle of
> Aquafina bottled water costs about $1. One bottle of water per day
> costs $365 per year. It costs the environment plenty, too.
>
> 5. Manicures -- The Day Spa Magazine Price Survey of 2004 found that
> the average cost of a manicure is $20.53. A weekly manicure sets you
> back about $1,068 per year.
>
> 6. Car washes -- The average cost for a basic auto detailing package
> is $58, according to Costhelper.com. The tab for getting your car
> detailed every two months: $348 per year.
>
> 7. Weekday lunches out -- $9 will generally cover a decent lunch most
> work days. If you buy rather than pack a lunch five days a week for
> one year, you shell out about $2,350 a year.
>
> 8. Vending machines snacks -- The average vending machine snack costs
> $1. Buy a pack of cookies every afternoon at work and pay $260 per
> year.
>
> 9. Interest charges on credit card bills -- According to a survey
> released at the end of May 2007, the median amount of credit card debt
> carried by Americans is $6,600. Rate tables on Bankrate.com indicate
> that fixed interest rates on a standard card average 13.44 percent.
> Making the minimum payment each month, it will take 250 months (almost
> 21 years) to pay off the debt and cost $4,868 in interest. Ouch!
>
> 10. Unused memberships -- Costhelper.com reports that the monthly
> service fee at gyms averages between $35 and $40. At $40 per month, an
> unused gym membership runs $480 per year.
> -- Posted: July 23, 2007
>
> http://www.bankrate.com/nltrack/news/financial_literacy/July07_saving...
I'm not batting a thousand - I do indulge in a drink in a restaurant
once in a while - it's part of the treat of eating out.
I use my gym membership a lot - averaging 4-5 days per week.
The coffee places would close, if they waited for me. Likewise,
gambling joints, lotteries, tobacco growers, fireworks dealers, and
fast food places.
I do get a ten buck car wash about every month. Worth it to me.
== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:49 pm
From: "Don K"
"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
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> Manicures-never had or wanted one-
Me neither. My wife used to get manicures as a "treat", but fortunately she
stopped after the last one caused a bad cuticle infection.
Don
== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:51 pm
From: "Don K"
"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
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> I would never spend a penny for a custom ring on my cell. Each time I get a phone I
> select whatever built in ring sounds the closes to a standard land line phone. When I
> am in public I ignore the custom rings and recognize mine because it does what people
> think the custom rings will do,be easily recognizable as my phone.
I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
There's no reason to have it ring.
Don
== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:02 pm
From: Gordon
"Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in
news:_uWdnd14os9kq1fbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com:
> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> news:re9yi.294$JD.93@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>> I would never spend a penny for a custom ring on my cell. Each time
>> I get a phone I
>> select whatever built in ring sounds the closes to a standard land
>> line phone. When I am in public I ignore the custom rings and
>> recognize mine because it does what people think the custom rings
>> will do,be easily recognizable as my phone.
>
> I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
> There's no reason to have it ring.
>
> Don
>
>
Until it falls out of your pocket and you need to locate it.
== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:14 pm
From: Gordon
"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in
news:vk7ic39evhie3e4laige3mrbauv814i731@4ax.com:
>
> 1. Children
>
Yes, but it's too late now.
> 2. Credit Card debt
>
> 3. "Entertainment, eating out, bar drinks.
Having children tends to cure this one.
>
> 4. Overbought house
I'm a real estate agent, I see this all the time.
DINK wants a huge house. Usually I get them to reconsider
by asking who is going to be incharge of cleaning it.
>
> 5. Cellphone, hi-speed internet, cable or satellite TV
> ( add 'em up !! )
Agreed. But they can be played off each other. By making
long distance calls (free) on my cell phone, I cut my
landline bill. Also, with high speed internet, you can
go with VOIP phone service and trade off the savings in
phone service against the higher price of broadband internet.
If you have a landline phone, then DSL can be a less expensive
option to cable isp.
>
> 6. Overbought car/car payments
Just buy a good 3yo car for cash. I havn't finananced a
car in almost 20 years.
>
> 7 Insurance; house, health, auto, life. ( add 'em up )
Auto insurance isn't optional in many areas. If you get cought
driving without insurance you could get hit with some very
unfrugal fines. Around here they have a form called an SR-22.
If you are required to file an SR-22, you have to find an insurance
company the will issue it (not all do). And the ones that do are
the sub-prime, high rate insurers. Very unfrugal.
>
>
> I'm sure there are more.....
> <rj>
== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:23 pm
From: George Grapman
Gordon wrote:
> "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in
> news:_uWdnd14os9kq1fbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:re9yi.294$JD.93@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>>> I would never spend a penny for a custom ring on my cell. Each time
>>> I get a phone I
>>> select whatever built in ring sounds the closes to a standard land
>>> line phone. When I am in public I ignore the custom rings and
>>> recognize mine because it does what people think the custom rings
>>> will do,be easily recognizable as my phone.
>> I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
>> There's no reason to have it ring.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>
> Until it falls out of your pocket and you need to locate it.
I always keep mine on at home so in case I misplace it
== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:30 pm
From: George Grapman
Gordon wrote:
> "<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in
> news:vk7ic39evhie3e4laige3mrbauv814i731@4ax.com:
>
>> 1. Children
>>
> Yes, but it's too late now.
>
>
>> 2. Credit Card debt
>>
>> 3. "Entertainment, eating out, bar drinks.
>
> Having children tends to cure this one.
>
>> 4. Overbought house
>
> I'm a real estate agent, I see this all the time.
> DINK wants a huge house. Usually I get them to reconsider
> by asking who is going to be incharge of cleaning it.
>
>> 5. Cellphone, hi-speed internet, cable or satellite TV
>> ( add 'em up !! )
>
> Agreed. But they can be played off each other. By making
> long distance calls (free) on my cell phone, I cut my
> landline bill. Also, with high speed internet, you can
> go with VOIP phone service and trade off the savings in
> phone service against the higher price of broadband internet.
> If you have a landline phone, then DSL can be a less expensive
> option to cable isp.
I work at home and my primary land line has unlimited toll and long
distance. I use the cell as my call back number and list that on my
business cards. My other land line has my DSL and fax. That line has no
long distance carrier and no features. The few times that I need to send
an out of state fax I use a three cent a minute phone card.
People act surprised when I tell them my cell plan only has 450 peak
minutes and that peak time is 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. but the only times that I
have exceeded those limits has been on trips and the rollover minutes
have always covered that.
>
>> 6. Overbought car/car payments
>
> Just buy a good 3yo car for cash. I havn't finananced a
> car in almost 20 years.
>> 7 Insurance; house, health, auto, life. ( add 'em up )
>
> Auto insurance isn't optional in many areas. If you get cought
> driving without insurance you could get hit with some very
> unfrugal fines. Around here they have a form called an SR-22.
> If you are required to file an SR-22, you have to find an insurance
> company the will issue it (not all do). And the ones that do are
> the sub-prime, high rate insurers. Very unfrugal.
>>
>> I'm sure there are more.....
>> <rj>
>
== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:19 pm
From: "Don K"
"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
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> Gordon wrote:
>> "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in
>> news:_uWdnd14os9kq1fbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>> I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
>>> There's no reason to have it ring.
>>
>> Until it falls out of your pocket and you need to locate it.
>
> I always keep mine on at home so in case I misplace it
My keys, wallet, and glasses don't ring either, yet I'm usually able to find
them without too much difficulty.
Don
== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:51 pm
From: George Grapman
Don K wrote:
> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> news:%7ryi.9819$3x.5880@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Gordon wrote:
>>> "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in
>>> news:_uWdnd14os9kq1fbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>
>>>> I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
>>>> There's no reason to have it ring.
>>> Until it falls out of your pocket and you need to locate it.
>> I always keep mine on at home so in case I misplace it
>
> My keys, wallet, and glasses don't ring either, yet I'm usually able to find
> them without too much difficulty.
>
> Don
>
>
I rarely need any of those item when I am home but I often use the cell.
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TOPIC: Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home.
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:27 pm
From: CanopyCo
On Aug 16, 4:24?pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> Paul Thomas <paulthomas...@bellsouth.net> wrote
> >>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
> >>>> The idea that a person cannot live in less then 1000 sq. ft is funny
> >>> Yeah, especially since she can't take a shower.........
> >>> As I remember, there's no running water.......
> >>> 'splain that one to your girlfriend's mother over dinner.
> >>> And I was under the impression that rednecks lived only in the south.
> >> No, they're everywhere. The south just has the ones who are *good* at it.
> >> North Carolina, frinstance.
> > It's not so much a matter of being a red neck as it is being poor.
> > Red neck is a sociological choice.
> > Poor is often not.
>
> Still is when the unemployment rate is 4.x% unless its physically
> impossible to work and very few are in that situation.
Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many people are
unemployed or how many jobs are available.
It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment
benefits.
Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
Basically, only shows how many people are freshly unemployed and
therefore still drawing benefits.
Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking that the
government is doing something useful.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:31 pm
From: CanopyCo
On Aug 16, 9:13?pm, "Paul Thomas" <paulthomas...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "CanopyCo" <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > Red neck is a sociological choice.
>
> Boy? What parts are you from?
>
> Down here, you're redneck by Birth.
>
> --
> Paul A. Thomas, CPA
> Athens, Georgia
Oklahoma :-)
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:12 pm
From: Dean
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:27:22 -0700, CanopyCo <Junk74020@aol.com>
wrote:
>
>Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many people are
>unemployed or how many jobs are available.
>
>It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment
>benefits.
>Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
>Basically, only shows how many people are freshly unemployed and
>therefore still drawing benefits.
>
>Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking that the
>government is doing something useful.
When benefits run out, an amazing thing happens. PEOPLE GO TO WORK.
This is born out by noting the number of homeless is not increasing to
match the number of people with lost benefits , nor is there a marked
increase in starving people in the US.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:21 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
CanopyCo <Junk74020@aol.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>>> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Paul Thomas <paulthomas...@bellsouth.net> wrote
>>>>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>> The idea that a person cannot live in less then 1000 sq. ft is funny
>>>>> Yeah, especially since she can't take a shower.........
>>>>> As I remember, there's no running water.......
>>>>> 'splain that one to your girlfriend's mother over dinner.
>>>>> And I was under the impression that rednecks lived only in the south.
>>>> No, they're everywhere. The south just has the ones
>>>> who are *good* at it. North Carolina, frinstance.
>>> It's not so much a matter of being a red neck as it is being poor.
>>> Red neck is a sociological choice.
>>> Poor is often not.
>> Still is when the unemployment rate is 4.x% unless its physically
>> impossible to work and very few are in that situation.
> Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many
> people are unemployed or how many jobs are available.
Wrong, its a measure of the number who are seeking work.
> It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment benefits.
Wrong.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
> Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
Wrong.
> Basically, only shows how many people are freshly
> unemployed and therefore still drawing benefits.
Wrong.
> Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking
> that the government is doing something useful.
Wrong, as always.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:43 pm
From: CanopyCo
On Aug 20, 7:12?pm, Dean <roa...@firstinter.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:27:22 -0700, CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many people are
> >unemployed or how many jobs are available.
>
> >It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment
> >benefits.
> >Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
> >Basically, only shows how many people are freshly unemployed and
> >therefore still drawing benefits.
>
> >Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking that the
> >government is doing something useful.
>
> When benefits run out, an amazing thing happens. PEOPLE GO TO WORK.
> This is born out by noting the number of homeless is not increasing to
> match the number of people with lost benefits , nor is there a marked
> increase in starving people in the US.
Actually, most of them live with other family members so that they do
not have to live under a bridge.
And they do not starve due to food stamps.
Clearly you have no idea about reality.
There are more unemployed people then there are jobs.
That is why jobs can get away with paying so little.
No competition for the worker.
But lots of competition for the job.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:49 pm
From: CanopyCo
On Aug 20, 7:21?pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
> >>> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>>> Paul Thomas <paulthomas...@bellsouth.net> wrote
> >>>>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
> >>>>>> The idea that a person cannot live in less then 1000 sq. ft is funny
> >>>>> Yeah, especially since she can't take a shower.........
> >>>>> As I remember, there's no running water.......
> >>>>> 'splain that one to your girlfriend's mother over dinner.
> >>>>> And I was under the impression that rednecks lived only in the south.
> >>>> No, they're everywhere. The south just has the ones
> >>>> who are *good* at it. North Carolina, frinstance.
> >>> It's not so much a matter of being a red neck as it is being poor.
> >>> Red neck is a sociological choice.
> >>> Poor is often not.
> >> Still is when the unemployment rate is 4.x% unless its physically
> >> impossible to work and very few are in that situation.
> > Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many
> > people are unemployed or how many jobs are available.
>
> Wrong, its a measure of the number who are seeking work.
>
> > It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment benefits.
>
> Wrong.http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>
> > Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
>
> Wrong.
>
> > Basically, only shows how many people are freshly
> > unemployed and therefore still drawing benefits.
>
> Wrong.
>
> > Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking
> > that the government is doing something useful.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
Oh, now I see its a survey .
Like that is any better.
I have never, nor do I know anyone that has ever been ask if they had
a job.
Apparently they don't send the survey to areas that have low job to
worker ratio.
And how often do the homeless get included in this survey?
They send them to the homeless in the streets?
Or just to people that can afford a home and therefore a mailing
address?
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:29 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
CanopyCo <Junk74020@aol.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>>>>> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> Paul Thomas <paulthomas...@bellsouth.net> wrote
>>>>>>> CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> The idea that a person cannot live in less then 1000 sq. ft is funny
>>>>>>> Yeah, especially since she can't take a shower.........
>>>>>>> As I remember, there's no running water.......
>>>>>>> 'splain that one to your girlfriend's mother over dinner.
>>>>>>> And I was under the impression that rednecks lived only in the south.
>>>>>> No, they're everywhere. The south just has the ones
>>>>>> who are *good* at it. North Carolina, frinstance.
>>>>> It's not so much a matter of being a red neck as it is being poor.
>>>>> Red neck is a sociological choice.
>>>>> Poor is often not.
>>>> Still is when the unemployment rate is 4.x% unless its physically
>>>> impossible to work and very few are in that situation.
>>> Unemployment rate has nothing to do with how many
>>> people are unemployed or how many jobs are available.
>> Wrong, its a measure of the number who are seeking work.
>>> It is based entirely on how may people are drawing unemployment benefits.
>> Wrong.http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
>>> Once those benefits run out, you are no longer considered unemployed.
>> Wrong.
>>> Basically, only shows how many people are freshly
>>> unemployed and therefore still drawing benefits.
>> Wrong.
>>> Totally a political equation to fool people into thinking
>>> that the government is doing something useful.
>> Wrong, as always.
> Oh, now I see its a survey .
> Like that is any better.
Its a quite different number to the number receiving benefits.
> I have never, nor do I know anyone that has ever been ask if they had a job.
Irrelevant to the spectacular fool you made of yourself.
> Apparently they don't send the survey to areas that have low job to worker ratio.
Wrong, as always.
> And how often do the homeless get included in this survey?
They are such a small percentage of the total population that they are completely irrelevant.
> They send them to the homeless in the streets?
> Or just to people that can afford a home and therefore a mailing address?
They are such a small percentage of the total population that they are completely irrelevant.
They dont even amount to 0.1% of the unemployment rate.
The reality is that poor is STILL a sociological choice when the unemployment rate is 4.x%
You get to like that or lump it.
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TOPIC: Let's Unite Against Jews and Mongrels!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:29 pm
From: Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb
Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
When we swim in the light, all will be okay
The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
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Let's break the chains of Jewish and black domination! Unite, white
brothers and sisters, and let's defeat those who oppress our white
heritage!
Our skin is our uniform!
Serbian Committee for Aryan Defence
Nenad Milicevic, executive
ICQ 208030128
endymion@deadspam.com
endimion@myrealbox.com
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:39 pm
From: ray
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:29:23 -0700, Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb
wrote:
> Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
> Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
> When we swim in the light, all will be okay
> The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
> ------------------------------
> Let's break the chains of Jewish and black domination! Unite, white
> brothers and sisters, and let's defeat those who oppress our white
> heritage!
>
> Our skin is our uniform!
>
> Serbian Committee for Aryan Defence
> Nenad Milicevic, executive
> ICQ 208030128
> endymion@deadspam.com
> endimion@myrealbox.com
Much better idea - let's unite against bigotted idiots!!
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TOPIC: Deals website
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 6:17 pm
From: "The Henchman"
"Bob's Backfire Burrito" <BLAMPOW!@pullmyfinger.org> wrote in message
news:polyi.18634$eY.1390@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>
Pass his website along to those MI5 guys....
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TOPIC: Ways to Save Energy and Fuel, & Therefore Money
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:41 pm
From: plenty980@yahoo.com
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